2017 US Open 8-Ball Championships July 29-31, 2017 Griff's Las Vegas, NV Shane Van Boening vs Lee Van Corteza Sponsors: Predator Chalk, Cyclop Balls, Kamui Tips, Iwan Simonis Cloth, and Omega Billiards
The reason the commentators were wrong often: eight-ball has many solutions. A rack of eight-ball can be ran many ways and often it’s how a player sees the rack in his own mind. So when he solves the rack it doesn’t mean he did it the highest percentage way: he happened to choose one of many that allowed the escape.
Such an interesting game. I never realized how much thought went into it. Watching these games, and listening to the commentators really gives you a lot of insight and knowledge. Haven’t played in years, but I want to get into it. I always thought to just shoot the ball in, and shoot the obvious easy one.
that was a really good match between these two, looks easy on the eyes, look at those placements, plannings and everything. just love to watch and sure beginners of pool can a lesson or two from this.
I love how boening in the end sets up the shot he missed after thinking about what he should do for minutes, and smashes it in in like 2 seconds after the game lol
Now, about the GOAT discussion...there is no real controversy about this if one considers accomplishments across all the disciplines in pool; Reyes is atop the heap. When big money was on the line he was nothing short of awesome. Something to think about: Reyes first came to the States in 1984, to Houston, where many of the top players had gathered to play in Red's 9-Ball Open. Reyes beat Wade Crane 10-7 in the final. Third place went to Earl Strickland. Now, everyone knows that Reyes is very modest and shy, so I was surprised to hear him brag in an interview--when he was asked at what age he played his best pool--that no one could beat him in the Philippines before coming to the States, and that his best pool was between the age of 18 to about 24. Okay, so in 1984 he was...30! It's hard to imagine that he was past his prime but that's what he said.
....wrong consistently & afraid of the biggest pockets on the tables, side pockets. As a pool player, embarrassing. Øh they made a shot in the S I D E P O C K E T, amazing!
I think they all know that George isn't as strong of a commentator as they are. As a viewer it gets irritating; I can imagine what it's like for them being there all day, not being able to say anything about it.
It's a little bit funny, how many times the commentator said "it's a little bit funny." I think Cornerman was likely listening to Elton John just prior to the match.
Worldwide, (in every pool discipline), NO ONE has EVER won more tournaments than Efren. And, just to give a little perspective for the negativists referring to Efren's decline due to age-I am 81, and still play at a 'B' level [despite A.R.M.D.], and worse of all neuropathy,(hand tremors/shakes). Efren just turned 64 in August. In an interview 'bout a yr. ago, he was asked when he might retire, he replied; "when I get the shakes". :-) So, do not be deceived, the 'maestro' has a while left. As for Shane's rise, it will seem tortoise-like next to the astonishing skills of relative 'newcomers, Shaw & Thorpe.
Jason Shaw has been around for quite a while now; and, while Billy Thorpe and Skylar Woodward are exceptionally talented, you must really be blind to think that they have more skills than Shane Van Boening. Woodward and Thorpe haven't, to my knowledge, even tried playing anywhere but in the U.S., but Shane has been on the world scene for years and has multiple world titles to his name. If you want to build people up, that is fine; but don't come on here and try to water down Shane's accomplishments. Besides, Efren may be "only" 64, but Shane is only 34, so he has about 30 more years to earn titles til he gets to Efren's age.
Shaw really isn't much of a newcomer. He's been around the pros for at least 6 years now. Additionally, he consistently loses to Shane. Skylar is good, I don't think he's even close to Shane's level yet. He's got to get in the experience. Thorpe is my favorite newcomer. He's showing talent close to Shane's level now, but not overly consistently. He needs to work on his strategic play a bit more. Keep in mind also, Shane has just plain dominated for over a decade now. Pretty much as soon as he hit the pro scene he's been the one to beat. He came in and just took over. No arguments about Efren. He's the greatest of all time, but Shane's the greatest of THIS time and working his way up.
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Abijah Vojtasek : I've never stated [anywhere] , that Thorpe & Woodward "have more skills than Shane". So...your unfounded accusation, [" don't come on here and try to water down Shane's accomplishments"] , is either a figment of a fertile imagination, or someone incapable of understand what they've read. Incidentally, since Shane has been around the pro circuit for 15 yrs. or thereabouts, and still hasn't won an Asian tournament. How long do you think it will take for him to win something?
announcers just said that in rack ten that Corteza just wasn't comfortable on the last five ball run. Makes no sense to give him the out when he played perfect shape and then missed a stop shot before the eight. why make excuses for a pro. Corteza is amazing. human also, I've seen everyone do the same thing. Judgement means nothing to the man at the table. We all play through it and move on
When Shane was sinking the eight in game 8 at about 44:40 it looked (to me) like his stroke was a little cattywampous. It looked like the back of the cue was moving from side to side. Is that the camera angle or am I seeing things?
it’s Shane’s signature stroke. You are correct the way he moves his whole arm when he strokes the que stick and the angle did make it seem like he was going side to side but i can assure you it’s a up and down motion not side to side. He uses his arm like the philippinos keep a loose wrist to get effortless que ball power. Although, i do say using that style is much harder because you need to be so much more accurate.
Plastic rack keeps the balls more closely packed. You will have noticed how balls can "fall off" each other when racked using a conventional triangle. The plastic rack has small holes in which the balls sit, so they can't fall out.
No - his name is actually spelled Orcullo, and in the Philippines, it's pronounced Or-COOL yo due to the Spanish Castillian or Madrid influence. His name is spelled incorrectly as Orcollo, but it's Orcullo.
thanks for the match coverage. I mean no offense, but so much better on mute. you don't need to comment every second, especially when your wrong as pool commentators often are.
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WHY ARE THEY PLAYING ON A 7 FOOT TABLE AND NOT A 9 FOOT TABLE? THESE ARE PROS AND THE BEST IN THE WORLD PLAYING ON A SMALL TABLE FOR THE U.S. OPEN? THE U.S. OPEN ON A SMALL TABLE.
DOCTOR LOGIC they usually do the us open on 7.5 foot. Idk why they changed it this year, i guess it depends on who hosts it and they have a tournament specifically for bar tables,
These are 9ft tables. They have never played this event on 7 ft. You are thinking of the USBTC which is the U S BAR table championships. Something totally different yhan this
To damn slow need a 20-second shot clock. This is not fricken rocket science, this is one of the simplest (if not the simplest) games you can play on a table. Going elsewhere to watch something that moves faster than grass growing in the Sahara.
