2018 Draft Hit, Miss, or Meh: Every 1st Round Pick! 

Absolutely.

Its more Allen than the Bills. He rebuilt his mechanics and hasnt had the best supporting cast

@@nate9191 huh, the coaching staff helped him build his mechanics, and his supporting cast has been good to great sense 2019 (Cole Beasley, John brown, Devin Singletary, dawson knox in 2019, and Stefon Diggs, Zach Moss, and Gabriel davis in 2020), your wrong my friend!

Totally agree! Joah Allen was the QB I wanted over Sam Darnold..... Now look 😅 here's to hoping Zach Wilson is a STAR 🌟

Jets would have ruined any qb they touch they suck at development right now

Agreed. He’s a hit

1,000,000,000,000% D James is F'N WILD man!! I wish we had more Chargers games here in Massachusetts. I think he's the best Safety in the NFL and I understand the injury history but like you said, you make certain exceptions when you're talking about a player this capable. He could be the 1st player in NFL history to have 100tackles, 10+sacks, 10+ints, 10+FF/FR in a season. If Darius Leonard or Isaiah Simmons doesn't do it 1st. Godd*mn I miss football

I was so mad the packers traded back instead of drafting James….but I’ll take jaire and Darnell savage. James is still a beast

Darwin James is the leader in that Chargers defense. He's the heart and soul of the Chargers. He is the exception.

I haven’t heard him till this year

Hope that those missed seasons can be a reason not to ask for a big contract. Really want him to stay but with the Chargers aggressiveness in this off season scares me what will happen to others.

@@jeeaux I believe they will find a way to keep him.

@@JustDraysonTV As a Chargers fan, they better freaking keep him

@@footballman3316 they better! The guy is a beast!

@@JustDraysonTV Well they kept him lol

I agree

And the Derwin one too

Bradley Chubb as well

It was pretty cold when he made it too lmao. Who is out there doubting Barkley?! Is it the same dumbasses that doubt Mahomes and Jackson every game?

That's why you wait five years like tree does. You never know what happens to a career like that

Sam darnold out of college was the best QB prospect in that draft it was a great pick the jets just ruined him and the reason Josh Rosen was considered a better prospect than Lamar and Josh is because he was a ready product unlike josh and he was better than Lamar because he had no throwing ability (still doesnt)

Look I'll give baker mayfield some credit, drafted by the browns who where 0-16 at the time, 3 different coaches, and had no o line for his first two seasons. I don't think Lamar or Allen would thrived like they do now if they were in Baker's position.

Also the brown's did baker very dirty

@@mcgrill11 they were projects put in perfect situations

If u go back to all of their rookie years, LJ was the only one who had a pretty solid season, but he got crushed in the playoffs. Josh Allen and LJ all landed in significantly better spots and their teams nurtered them.

It's the Dak, Russ Wilson, T.O, hell TB! Teams and the media hype up guys but the NFL is such a unique intense competitive place, you have to be superhuman to even be a regular starter so the 1st round just slightly less of a crap shoot than any other round! Tony Romo, Vinny V = GOAT Kicker, Kurt Warner, Emmit Smith weren't even drafted at all! Antonio Gates or Warren Moon either!

Even back then I hated both Darnold and Rosen. Darnold's numbers at USC were never impressive to me, especially his interceptions and Rosen seemed completely outplayed at every level

@@nickk2109 Me neither, I remember seeing Rosen and thought he was over hyped and the type of dude to be a bust and now look. However, I didn't think Darnold would be this bad

Just goes to show it takes zero skill to be a draft analyst. Why they have them is beyond me. The draft is too much a crapshoot

@@789french5 you do know the all time leader in rushing yards and rushing tds was drafted in the first round right ?🤦🏾‍♂️🤣

4 years is a great span to judge if a pick has been a bust or not

This is why I couldn’t care less about draft hype. Means nothing when most scouts are wrong.

It’s pretty much just waiting until rookie contracts are over

Average career span for a NFL player is 4-5 years. That’s the other reason realistically.

Absolutely.

Aikman famously never thought Allen would be that good, because he said you can't teach accuracy. Lol. Take the L Aikman.

I called Josh Rosen "Matt Leinhart 2.0" from the start. He had decent natural ability, but he came from a rich family and didn't need football which turned in to not wanting football. They just enjoyed the prospect of more money and women that being the starting QB at a major university (or eventually an NFL team) offered. Neither one of them needed football to live an affluent life after college, just kick back, take in the boosted paychecks from daddy, then take over the family business when daddy wants to retire.

Whether it's an employee or a player on my favorite football team - I will take a guy with C- tangibles and A+ work ethic over a guy with A+ tangibles and C- work ethic any day.

@@liamengram6326 Drew Brees is a prime example. A+ effort and body of work. Maybe a C grade overall due to size and above average arm strength at best, even in his prime.

@@MrDhughes3 But you normally can't. Allen is an exception not the rule.

@Nfl Production Not nearly as good

Josh Allen sucked as a rookie

He went up against the "great, brilliant, GOAT" Bill Belicheks defense in week 17 and rd 1 of the playoffs and the Patriots & Bill COULDN'T MAKE ALLEN/BILLS PUNT ONCE!!! That's just ridiculously dominant and it's the equivalent of a MLB pitcher throwing 2 perfect games in the same month

@@ProudGirlDadX2 Yessir

Allen & Darnold have the same QB (Palmer) coach in the off season. The one that came out of a "power house" college with offers from other schools doesn't surprise me he isn't a starter after yr 4. The young man w/o offers that had to go juco. Lost his best players in his Sophomore yr in college & still put up some good games in Wyoming (except Oregon) junior yr. This league keeps showing me Qbs from non power house schools keep striving in this league with some stability. That said Good luck Davis Mills even w/o the college starts, Daniel Jones cursed by being with 3rd base born owners & Justin Herbert with a coach that doesn't like points leaves FG for the uncool coaches with playoff experience. Lamar Jackson had 1st round picks on offense & defense. Trubisky actually made that offense move with Bears when Lazor called plays.

CRimInaLLy uNdeRraTeD

Him and Patrick Queen are quite the duo in Baltimore rn

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You got be on the field and play ball to be a baller

So many players have so much talent and can't stay healthy.

Does it really matter tho ? Because when he’s on turf he’s one of the best safeties in the nfl his stats speak for itself …

He is the only reason we win a lot of games. This year He WAS our Run defense.

Faxts tht man sumein serious

Facts

Best ability is availability. Just like how saquan is a meh

@@josephkennedy2953 nah

@@andrewjones4774 did he show up when he was available. Yes so wht r u talking about

Calvin Ridley is meh lately

I’d say Rashaad Penny did just enough down the stretch to warrant consideration for “meh” status. I’d also give that label to Sam Darnold because while he has looked like a bust on the field, his teams are 1-16 without him. Is it more him or the teams around him? Hard to tell, but I’m leaning more towards the teams around him

@@nicholasselke5214 I agree Penny's biggest issue is whether or not he can stay healthy. When available he has proven to be a good running back.

Barkley is a miss. One good season for a team that didn’t need a running back as bad as they thought. It’s ok to say that.

@@nicholasselke5214 it’s true that the Jets from 2018-20 were pretty bad but Sam Darnold never really stood out tbh. His decision making is terrible and he simply doesn’t have the it factor. Most of his career wins came against equally terrible teams. I expect him to be out of the league by the end of the 2022 season. Or at best he could be a 3rd stringer.

He graduated with a PHD in route running

She's terrible

he’s got Allen Robinson Syndrome

hes very nearly top 10 imo even with the awful qb play

fr was about to say

I second

And 2005 the only 2 rbs from the same school were drafted top 5 Cadillac Williams and Ronnie brown look it up ..

Vea was def a better pick

I wanted Derwin as well but Vita Vea is literally a one man run defense. Hes also a super loveable guy

@@jakeferlita5649 I know, I've seen him stop Derrick Henry himself one handed which is crazy lol

James is flashier and a great player, but overall a big boy up front is almost always more value. Trenches are where most games are won.

@@MrRockmusicjunkie oh yea, plus secondary players are a dime a dozen in a pass happy league

Heck no dude! Big Q is just getting started @ Vander Esch is a busy compared to Darius Leonard who was picked in the 2nd round and turned out to be the better LB

Vander Esch also deserved a hit imo

@@mevs8659 g hes a backup now

@@anthonyramos9841 that’s not really an insult. A lot of players are busts compared to Leonard. LVE (despite the injuries) was a good pick.

He's injured way too much...hard to be a hit when you're not playing

@@joeydaninersfan2188 doesn’t matter everytime he’s on the field he’s elite

@@buddygass3728 but when he is on the field?

I still remember that Steelers chargers game, where the bolts came back and all I could remember was how great Derwin played

@@renetoobeast5244 all I can remember is the refs handing out points to the chargers

Hasn’t played enough due to injury. When on the field he’s a beast but his injuries have held home back.

Bruh. I knew he was gonna be good from the start lol

@@vince11harris ok

True

Agreed, Roquan is one of the most underrated defenders in the league

Crazy thy he requested a trade too

sorry to say, but that last bit aged like milk

@@Th3tim3stopp3r I mean we can still pay him and lock him down long term

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Thank You Dave Gettleman

Eh, kinda like saying Derrick rose was a reach because he got injured. Injuries happen. Generational backs go top 5.

@@billythefxck yeah, but with the way the league is going, I think even generational RBs are gonna be falling out of the top 5. Considering RB is one of the easier positions to replace and the fact they don’t last long, all while the pass game continues to soar above the run for a lot of teams.

Healthy saquon when, emphasize WHEN he gets blocking is the best in the league. The giants o line has been rated last for 4 straight years. 1800 yards with the 31st rated line?

The Ravens literally drafted Hayden Hurst’s replacement in the very next round of the same draft, and he got booted from the team. If that doesn’t make you a MISS, I don’t know what does

@@ggsnubs thats more reason why he was a meh lmao. he was really solid as TE2, and nobody expected mark andrews to just turn into the beast he is. he also didnt get booted from the team, he asked for a trade so he could be the TE1 somewhere cause he has the skills to do so. just so happened kyle pitts fell to atl, which ruined that for hayden too.

Hurst is a decent player, he's just not a TE1. Atl replaced him as well. He reminds a bit of Jesse James, solid fundamentals, good blocking, but doesn't command a lot of respect as a receiver. He could still have a long career. I think he's on Cincy now? Doubt he gets much time if CJ is healthy.

Yeah dj moore definitely a hit

If we got Ridley that year it would’ve been nice. Idk if his mental had to do with the on field stuff but if it did, B-More would’ve been a great place for him would’ve been an amazing draft for us

I don’t get 2 TEs in 3 rounds

@@filmonissak1597 logic being that they liked both and assumed at least one would work out, and that just so happened to be Andrews.

@@filmonissak1597 it’s sorta like for what the first person commented to you and then it can also be for like trade leverage because I think this year the Ravens drafted a kicker and of course everyone is like why would you do that when you have Justin Tucker but the guy gets to learn from the best kicker then we can trade him away for picks and things. I forgot his name I know it started with a V for something.

@@JWNimble no need to draft two TE’s that early ever… it’s not that important of a position

@Colten _ lol definitely not. injuries messed up his consistency but if he stays healthy he’ll be a dawg in ATL

Best ability is availability

Well he is injured every single season, I'd have a decent safety that can play 17 games rather than an good safety that can only play 3 games.

@@SoullessWRLD only reason he is injured so often is cuz he plays every down to 100% and he is being moved around all the time

@@SoullessWRLD 2x Pro-Bowl stud

The key word is "when"

Braden Smith from auburn ?

@@ericpackers1700 Nelson and Leonard come on now sir

And yet you can beat the jags to make the playoffs ahahahHah. Leonard ain’t making the hall bud

@@yourepathetic6706 Leonard has better numbers than Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher in their first 4 years. 4 years, DROY, 3x 1st team all pro, 1x 2nd team all pro, has more turnovers than any other LB by a mile since 2018. If stays at the same level for 5-6 more years, he’ll be in the HOF, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

@@yourepathetic6706 dude Darius is definitely making a Hall of Fame 😂 it's clear. 3x All Pro 1x Second team all pro 1x Tackles leader 1x Forced Fumbles leader 1x Def rookie of the year 3x pro bowl

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How do you feel about Trevor though?

Y’all have tlaw stay hopeful he could turn out better

he won't@@PsychicCatTCG

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Both busts

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Definitely a miss

Him and Blaine Gabbert were an example of guys who never deserved that much hype even though he was 5 Stat recruit

@@ericpackers1700 exactly overrated bums who failed when given the chance

@@ericpackers1700 hey at least Gabbert gave us "woah there motherfucker" 😂

I mean, Josh Allen only led the Bills to 3 straight playoff berths, 2 straight division titles, 3 playoff wins, an AFC Championship appearance, and had the highest passer rating in a single postseason. That's all he's done.

@@BisonGaming3334 where do you see anything in this thread about Josh Allen 🤦

What I was thinking

And look at them lmaooo

Wholesome

I mean he been available for a little over 50% of the game. Hard to be considered a hit if you don’t stay on the field. He is an excellent player but you have to stay healthy

@@footballtalkwithfreddy8684 but it's still a hit tho, that's like saying burrow or mcaffery are "meh"

I see your argument but that is only 2 possible seasons of data while Derwin could’ve had 4. McCaffery right now I think is overpaid and if I’m Carolina I’m trading him if I can. Especially if he gets hurt again

Lolz yeah for all those charger “hits” they can’t make the playoffs hahahahahHa trash franchise with trash players

People saying that the Browns should draft him number 1 overall. They waited until round 2 to draft a RB, and they got BY FAR the best RB in the draft.

It was definitely extraordinary. Injuries are what's held him back, not talent

He's very talented, just injury prone

He's overrated

To be fair the injuries set him back his running style is something I never saw... which makes me think he may never get back to that level.

Agree

Cards would’ve ruined Lamar as well

@@nicholasselke5214 no he wouldve been fine. lamars at his peak of danger when plays break down and he plays hero ball, waiting for a pass angle or finding a hole and sprinting. he wouldve succueded through the ineptitude of the cardinals.

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I think we need to see a season with at least 700-800 yards before he can move above miss, but he’s definitely on the right track

He’s a big fat giant miss

Darnold and Rosen are the only bad ones in the top ten

@@brandonm5130 Baker?

@@tomlombardo6051 given bakers 2018 and 2020 season id say he’s above being outright bad, more like mediocre or decent

@@brandonm5130 yea he's so good nobody wants him and he's sitting at home on the couch. Derp

@@ka3274 uh you do know what mediocre means right?

Not sure how you can call him a hit when he's only played half of the games he could

Well he is injured every single season, I'd have a decent safety that can play 17 games rather than an good safety that can only play 3 games.

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flat out not true. Barkley will never be the guy we saw at Penn State again. He can't replicate that running style any more with his injuries. not sure he'll ever have a 1,000 yard season again

Needs better luck with health than anything

would be a hit if he was taken outside the top 10 but at #2 he’s absolutely meh

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Agreed Isaiah Wynn has shown he can be a very good o-lineman

@Fries running backs should never go that high, saquon Barkley’s career so far answers the question for you. You don’t just get running backs like Derek Henry or Jonathan Taylor by taking a running back 2nd overall, focus on other team needs first

@Fries I doubt a team is only missing a running back, but let’s say they did only need a running back, they’d be best off trading the pick away for more later first round or second round picks

@Fries Realistically the 20s are the highest you should take a rb. Even then, it's only if you don't have any other significant needs.

Golden domer

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This guy gets it.

And how has that worked out for you guys? How many playoff wins? No doubt he's probably the best player but it's not a position of value

@@ka3274 lol, not a Colts fan but notice how many of these guys haven't won a playoff game nor enter the playoff so idk what your point is

@@wholesomecomment45 the point was he's a really good player but you can have the best G in the NFL and it doesn't win you games. It's not a position of value to be drafting a G in the top 10. It's one of the least impactful positions there are

@@ka3274 Least impactful? Do you know bow hard it is to have a 1800+ rusher without a good oline? What about having Luck nearly having an MVP like season in 2018? Pretty sure the Bengals would've loved to have a great oline during their SB run.

@@wholesomecomment45 G is the worst position on the OL. Having a good T and C is much more important. And even then it doesn't get you wins to have 1 great offensive lineman. Colts do have a great G I just don't think it matters as much as other positions

Wahhh wahhhh poor baby, did they say your teams pick was a miss? Do you need a safe space? Loser