i drive a renault kangoo. this thing scares me. i've got a high center of gravity but fuck all weight (2500ish lbs) and no grip thanks to the economy tyres, so a sharp turn at 80 will only lead to terminal oversteer and a spin when the rear gives up, not a flip. this thing WILL flip.
Im actually quite impressed at the longevity of the 3.5 twin turbo. My father bought a used 2016 F150 at around 50k, changes oil religiously, and the only major service its had was the ford reccomended "once through" at around 100k. Hes at 190k and still running perfect, not to mention none of the plentiful extras that havent failed.
It very very heavily depends on year models. People shit all over Ford and just come to the conclusion they’re all bad vehicles. Yet my dads 2005 F150 4.6 Triton is currently sitting at 272k with completely stock powertrain still runs like a top, the heat JUST went out on it finally and that is literally the most major issue it’s ever had in 15 years and almost 300k miles. 2015-2017’s are extremely solid F-150’s. Can’t say the same for same year models Silverados
@@shaunkennedy174 that was what he had before this, an 01 F150 4.6 that he DROVE into the junkyard at 340k because he didnt want to replace the coil packs and decided it was time lmao. I think the yard owner bought it off him instead of scrapping it if im remembering correctly.
I have an Expedition L (Max here in Canada). I've had several people watch in wonder as I slide full sheets of drywall or plywood into it and casually close the tailgate. I can even get 14" lengths of trim in it if I work it right. Also tow a 27ft, 7200lb trailer (though I get HORRIBLE mileage doing, less than 8mpg) with family of 4, 2 big labs and our crap inside.
Unless you’re hauling gravel for a living, a big SUV will always have more space than an equivalent pickup truck, and you can actually use that space for other things that aren’t hauling stuff. Trucks are just so pointless for non commercial uses.
That's not really true. Modern crew cab half tons are basically suburbans with a bed. They are for people who need an SUV but a cargo space for dirty things. I would love a suburban but I can't put anything wet, dirty, greasy, smelly in the back of it.
the problem with the mind set of "it's okay to be comfortable" is it lets people forget the fact it's often at other's expense in one way or another. no ethical consumption or something something
I work at a Ford Lincoln dealer on Long Island and everyone loves making sure you KNOW they have money. They aren't 'humble' like the "I'm not a rich man" guy with tons of rich people toys and a house on the long island sound. See you in the service department for your cam phasers ;)
Make no mistake. People that have stupid money, might drive one of these for the comfort and power. But they will get out wearing a t-shirt, gym shorts, and some boat shoes. They will not run their big stupid mouth like the clowns described here in the comments. When you have substantial wealth, you spend a lot of it trying to hide that fact, and trying to keep people from kidnapping your kids. You don't pull into an establishment talking loud and looking stupid. Thats for the Jersey/ Lauderdale posers and the ones with means laugh at their ignorance😅😅😅
My dad was like that when he brought his 23' Acura MDX. Now he kinda regrets it as his co-workers and other employees are jealous, sometime he'll mention that he'll borrow my car to his job, lol.
@@DaiAtlus79 where I live these are driven mostly by middle-upper middle class boat or RV people who instinctively "buy American," OR rideshare and taxi drivers who want to charge more for luxury third rows. I did a search and see dealers selling 100-150k mile 2018 navigators for $20k
Vids like this really highlight how a vast majority of the car market relies on people bagging on each other for whatever they buy. cause we know 90% of people on the road would be perfectly content with a Corolla, but they can't withstand the fact someone might judge them in the slightest.
All I want is a fuel efficient car (because fuck running costs) that has more cargo room than a sedan, and can tow a few thousand pounds in case I need more cargo space.
I can totally relate to not wanting people to think I'm rich. I've got enough faults as it is, don't need people piling on because I have one nice thing.
I own a '19 Navigator in this spec. Thanks for pointing out it uses the same EcoBoost variant as the Raptor (not available in the Expedition until 2024 models). It embarrasses the GM V8 (Escalade, I'm looking at you) on power and MPG...and it takes regular gas (no premium required) as the cherry on top.
Thank you for finally doing this one. My neighbor got rid of his Mercedes C-Class and got one of these. He's in construction and it makes perfect sense now.
Interior looks nice when new but doesn't age very well, 30-40k miles and the leather is shiny, the plastics are scratched up, and there are creaks. Definitely a car you lease, or sell after a few years.
A few years ago, we were stuck behind one of these that was stopped at an exit booth on the Central Florida Greeneway. The toll collector walked back to us and told us that we were going to have to back up and exit the SunPass lane because the Navigator's electrical system shut down and because the gear shifter is electric, they couldn't even put it in neutral to push it out of the way, so they were having to wait for a tow truck. Worse yet, I got charged a fee because I didn't have a SunPass.
Ford dealer fleet tech here. We see those 3.5 liters BY THE HUNDREDS (although not for engine service) What you said about the engine isn’t particularly true. Anything breaks when you abuse it. We do oil changes by what the maintenance monitor calls for. Never seen any issues with oiling or anything like that.
@@Madhouse_Media I’d be more inclined to believe a tech that works on them regularly over a person speaking from a single point of view of their one single individual vehicle they own. Then again, just about every tech will tell you everything everywhere every time is shit
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Pretty much why I ignore techs when I want to know about reliability. Ordinary people seem to think the 3.5 is trash, but here's mine, along with the three other Duratec V6 I had with almost a million miles between them. Then again, I actually maintain shit so what do I know? 🤣
According to a quarter mile calculator 6800lbs takes ~468 wheel horsepower to get to a 14.2 quarter mile. I imagine the calculator is estimating some drag here too but yeah a big barn like this would have lots of drag, which would require even more power! I suspect you're right about it being underrated.
I used to work as a salesman at Lincoln when these came out in 2018 down here in Florida. During covid we had to deliver almost all the cars personally and it was always such a nice drive.
The ending was excellent, love the feeling of melancholy mixed with nostalgia for things I’ve never done. If someone isn’t from America and wants to understand why we buy what we buy, and how those purchases make us feel, watch RCR episodes with very American cars. Comfort, size, anti-elitism, wealth born from good choices, pride of our past, all of it. Whether true or not, most of us feel that way, and when you step into a Yukon Denali, a Navigator, an Escalade, a town car, pickups, most Americans understand it. Even if it’s not their style or preference. RCR reminds me of our different, very silly, American car choices, and that I like the people who drive them.
As a Lincoln owner myself, you've described me and my overall thoughts perfectly in regard to other people and the car itself, well done lol. I'm not a rich man, I like how comfortable the seats are, and I'm perpetually waiting for its Fordness to show. Well, my car is a 2010 and I take good care of my Ecoboost engine, at 165,000 miles now and it's only just now starting to show its Ford foot.
Just remember... When it's Fordness starts to show, it isn't going to cost you as much to repair those super common Ford components. Can't say the same thing about a Benz or a Land Rover.
@@Madhouse_Media Oh I know… when I was looking for this car I could’ve opted for a BMW 7-Series for around the same price, and I really like the 7-series with the doctored up Bangel Butt! But I kept in mind the repair cost and steered well clear of it.
Why is it whenever some Auto Enthusiast talk about Lincolns and cadillacs, they always degrade them down to be nothing more than gussied up Fords and chevys, but call an Audi a gussied up Volkswagen, or call a Porsche 911 a Volkswagen Beetle with extra horses in its ass, and the same Auto Enthusiast snobs are damn near ready to burn you at the stake for daring to come for their precious European luxury name plates, because all they ever give anything European is reference and worship. I feel like no matter what Lincoln or Cadillac does, they really can't win for losing when it comes to these badge snobs. If they made more unique and premium products, but then slap on a more premium price tag, they would be considered far too extreme and pricey just because of the brand name ( look at reactions to the new Cadillac celestiq). But then, if they keep their products as being luxury versions of their more mainstream stablemates, but have more reasonable pricing, they get shot down for being cheap, warmed over excuses for luxury. They treat these Brands like GM and Ford should just give up and discontinue them, but then we'll gladly stand the line for the next BMW with a crappy overly plastic engine, worship the ground it leaks oil on, and vehemently defend its cheaper quality by swiping back with excuses like "but it's fast and handles well! I'd rather have an exciting car that needs fixing than a boring car that's built well!" I swear, some Auto enthusiasts' biases and hypocrisy knows no bounds.
The issue is it’s not like the American makes are built BETTER than the European ones. Tho I will agree even if the American makes made great cars they would prob still be made fun of because of their past of making garbage cars.
I guess you have to figure out where a brand is just sharing parts and platform, and where it becomes more like badge engineering. It's not like non-US brands don't get pilloried for the same thing among auto-snobs, though it might not be so visible to the US market. Look at how Toyota's new Supra was greeted because it was based on the BMW Z4, or the Mazda Miata-derived Fiat Spider 124 before that. Though calling a 911 a Beetle with extra horses is stretching an analogy to breaking point - I'm pretty sure they share nothing in common bar maybe some financing details :D
2018 Navigator Reserve L: The car for dads suffering a mid life crisis while wanting luxury on a budget because his wife have spent money on fake coupons snipped from newspapers, while losing stocks to the stockbros
If you want luxury on a budget, you're not looking at a Navigator. It probably won't cost as much to maintain or repair compared to something like a Range Rover (that's where the Ford underpinnings are a big plus), but you're still shelling out 75 grand or more.
@@Madhouse_Media beyond cosmetics and a couple extras that you can still get in the explorer, a Navigator is just really a rebadge. same as Caddies over at GM theyre just a remix of an existing platform and not much more. Upkeep maybe isnt as bad but the sticker cost is about the same as that range rover.
I wasn't aware that PennDOT now administered driver license tests, as when I passed my test over 40 years ago they were still given at the State Police barracks. That said, it was exactly the same thing you describe; people who were nervous about flunking in Berks County would sometimes be given the advice to have Mom drive them up past the Regular Car Reviews Tennis Club to Schuylkill County where the troopers were said to be "nicer". P.S. -5pts spelling for "Navagator" in the thumbnail ;-)
we had a 2015 navigator that we got with 55k miles. that we put 100k miles on in about 2.5 yeas and we loved it. the turbos blew under warranty and both front window regulators went but warranty covered it and we ran that car hard.
Honestly? This is the review I've been looking for - as a dad, with two kids, wife wanting two more, and a dog, this would be perfect. I'd happily throw whatever I wanted in the back, while pulling project cars home with it.
I work at a Ford dealership, the "I'm not a rich man" guy is on par with 4 of the guys I work with, and one of them has a Navigator, one has a loaded Expedition, the other two have Limited F-150 pickups lmao
Youre one of the few youtubers who makes their ads enjoyable. Actually considering getting a factor subscription. Im 25 and this gut isnt getting any smaller 😅
I was a valet for 21 years until last month. I’ll say this about Lincoln - I’ve driven a lot of them. In all sorts of condition. Not one was uncomfortable. Even the ‘66 Continental - I was uncomfortable driving it in downtown San Francisco because I couldn’t see if I was inside my lane, but the seats and suspension were still comfortable.
Really? The leather was my least favorite part. Looks kinda like plastic with its sheen. I wish they'd get this right like the Germans. Other than that it's a fairly nice looking interior
I was waiting for Mr. Regular to make the 'see you in the hood' remark. On the other hand, you can do Uber Black with this, to make that 'side income hustle', when the stocks stop 'stock-ing'.
2018 Lincoln Navigator Reserve L: The official car of "You know, I was top sh*t 20 years ago. Money, hookers, blow, you name it. Those were the days partying with Limp Bizkit and the guy from Smashmouth. Stick around and I can fire up my PS1 and play some Tony Hawk. Hey...where are you going???"
I worked as a salesman at a Ford Lincoln dealership during the 08 market crash. The GM would drive one as his demo, because we were always required to have one on site or on order but we sold 2 a year. As long as he had one, we didn’t have to order another one and we could mark it down to move it out.
Well, Lincoln isn't pretending to be a performance brand like Cadillac has been for the last 20 years or so. But still. In a vehicle this size I don't think anyone is going to complain about more power.
Yeah, it's been kind of annoying that the algorithm just doesn't show people our stuff. But I also kind of get it, since we're not exactly the most advertiser/algo-friendly channel on here 😂 But that's why the people who click the bell and show up here every Monday mean more than ever. I really love my job, and seeing people still showing up at all is so cool. I'll never stop being grateful.
Luxury cars ALWAYS depreciate like no tommorow. Mainly due to more to go wrong along with high running costs like insurance etc. My advice. Buy a cheap 7-10 year old luxury car - checking ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, but fir god sake- treat it like "bangernomics" Sell it after a year before the money pit forms!
I kind of agree with you. I like to pick them up around 5 years old and then drive them until the wheels fall off. Never really had one turn into a money pit yet (knock on wood).
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATPTbh there is a lot more nuance. With makes like the aforementioned Lexus or brands like Acura or certain years/models of even some German makes u can have a great car. It’s just kind of reductive to say luxury cars turn into money pits when just about ANY car made in the last 5-10 years likely shares most parts with their corporate ‘luxury’ sibling.
I must admit this was not a bad assessment of the Lincoln navigator whatsoever. Very fair very balanced. 3000 mile oil changes are a little extreme. 5000 miles with Fords full synthetic. Will keep these things running forever I’m a stress 5000 miles with Ford full synthetic.
I left Pennsylvania when I was 8 years old and Wawa was my favorite treat after school, an adult now living in LA, hearing they took away my favorite sandwich? UNFORGIVABLE!
I have one of these. Mine has had nothing but issues, it’s comfy. But with only 68k miles on it it’s already had to have the engine completely rebuilt due to lifter failure. The reverse camera has been replaced 3 times and the lower control arms 2 times. Don’t buy one. The windshield is a rock magnet I’ve had to replace the whole thing like 6 times.
The general manager at the dealership I work at drives one of these as his demo, when he sent it down to service to get an oil change all the mechanics cringed because it’s so damn long they have to use a special rack to get it up in the air, the jack points are too far apart for a normal rack😂
If they're anything like my Expedition, they also have a couple of janky and awkward aeroshields that need to come off. With two different bolt sizes to boot.
Totally agree with your last statement.... i'm just an average guy with an average income.. i bought a newer model S-Class Mercedes Benz as as splurge for a reasonable price. I hide the damn thing....I don't take it to work incase my coworkers were to see it, I make sure the neighbors aren't out or even the mailman isn't on the street before i even decide to take it out of the garage incase somebody were to see me in a vehicle that i zero business being in on paper. But at the end of the day, i can afford it, and the maintenance that comes along with it, so why not enjoy a little bit of comfort, even if its is my own little secret.
Most of the 'real' old Hemi cars did mid-14s and so does this damn thing. That's ridiculous. I understand that AWD, traction control, and IMMENSELY better tires are a thing, but seriously, it's crazy.
Lincoln Navigator Reserve L. The official car of freshly minted grandparents who spent more time at the lake in their mid-20s through early 40s than they did with their children's upbringing. The same people who of a sudden can't keep their grubby hands off the grandbabies because "I jUsT LLLLLAAAAAAAWWWWWVVVVVEEEE kiDS!" However, the voice inside your head knows well enough that not only are they trying to make up for lost time, you also know they want to gaslight you into thinking they were good parents, so when their flame is extinguished and it's their turn to be ushered into the chamber of memories, their legacy is solidified. But you know their legacy is about as solid as the build quality of the Ford Fusion Titanium they traded for this behemoth, which is now the same size as the lie they're desperately trying to cover up.
Its so nice, my mkz really made me love lincolns, i have an 08 hope to get a newer one someday. Prob gonna get a 22 hrv until then though, i need something better on gas atm 😅
I would love have one of these. Then proceed to neglect wife and whatever children I have, as I spend every waking minute of my life ensuring that not even a speck of dust can settle on that vast amount of black paint. Using only products purchased from autozone.
I’ve never noticed that these had push button transmissions! I mean it makes sense with the Lincoln Continental of the same year having that feature. I guess I always assumed these had the Ford shift knob like in a Fusion, or a console shift like in an F-150
I want one, and it will be 5-6years old. I'm just freaking infatuated with this beast! 35k is my goal of purchase. 10k down, 9,500k for my '15 Mkz' to trade in! Buy an extended warranty! My car note will be $300 mth! I'm rich, baby!!!!
Great review. Honestly just a Ford EcoVan with a tux and bow-tie, a varsity quarterback at the prom. Too bad Lincoln doesn't make a sedan version of this.
Brian's parody is insightful: the not-quite-obscenely rich seem to think that if they "work" for their money, as opposed to, say, being among the vanishingly small sliver of people whose wealth comes from investments and dividends, they're somehow not "rich," while never once getting close to understanding that any assessment of being wealthy is always relative.
