2018 VW Alltrack vs Audi Allroad Drag Race and Gold Mine Hill Mashup Review 

No doubt they did a fine job to show cars capability but they choose the wrong VW model.. for this comparison they should get the Passat Alltrack.. ;0)

@@poplaurentiu4148 late reply but the Passat Alltrack is not available for the United States not sold here

madant1977 we did get the A6 All Road for a couple of years I believe, not anymore though

By 2022, we will have the A6 allroad in the U.S. in addition to the A4 allroad we already have.

For the 2020 model year the A6 Allroad is available in the US.

I've never been drawn too hard to vw, but that wagon is awesome! I had to say that because It means a lot for me to say that. It would be a serious contender if I had to start looking for a newer vehicle now. I'll have to remember it when used prices come down. Good luck with yours!

Is it fun to drive day to day around town? Did you consider the regular Sportwagon before going with the Alltrack?

Josh Kelnhofer yes it's very fun. Low end torque makes it an enjoyable driver. And yes I did consider it because its a great way to save a couple thousand, The dealer just didn't have the package i wanted.

I considered it but it was 36K to get it similarly equipped to the Outback Limited I end up buying for 6K less. Maybe that’s why I’ve seen like 3 Alltracks in the Pacific North West - am area where Subies dominate.

George T. Intersting. I can't stand subarus horrible interior and bad driving dynamics. But congrats on the new car. I love the Pacific northwest

Frank White 3 minutes into the video and i already know that too

Frank White awful lol

even at a simple 0-60

Chris Lim Obviously that’s the point. They wanted to see how close they were even though they aren’t in the same class, yet identical design briefs.

The MQB is a newer platform as well. The engine they have in the Allroad is the same one the Golf GTI uses. Really similar idea anyways. RS3 uses MQB too.

That’s why the video is called a mashup.

But they're both awd wagons... and I'm in the market for either one, and that's why I'm here

I agree the guy in the All track was a Goober... Aw shucks... Oops whoops... Uh oh...

Rdrummer 2 Happy Single Awareness Day!

Double JJ Wut??

Rdrummer 2 My meteorologist said today is Single Awareness Day. Had a good laugh about it.

Double JJ oh XD

Gregory Trane manual is better at controlling downhill speed, and you have also more control over how you apply power to the wheels via clutch. Automatic could be hunting for gear (though you could switch it to manual mode, but it still auto-upshifts for you).

You wouldn't use the auto in auto, use the paddle shifters in manual.

They can only test drive whatever they are given.

If the Audi was a DSG they're both clutch based. The DSG is hopefully the wet clutch version, which won't smell as bad, but will still overheat if you inch it along. Torque convertor autos are nicer off road in cars without a low box, though not as good for controlled descending (Without a low box you'll probably be on the brakes in both cars anyway though) but you pay for toque convertor autos it in crappy fuel economy for the whole life of the car - the modern autos are probably competitive on efficiency, but cost more to buy and repair.

Agreed I have a VW that has a DSG transmission and it runs just like an Audi just less horsepower. Can't wait for APR to get new 18 2.0T tunes out so I can go troll some Audis. And I got a feeling VW is lying about the HP ratings, hopefully I'll be able to get it on a dyno late April and see if that 174 hp is accurate cause it moves a whole lot faster then it should.

WoodshavenPatriot really?

I would say sportwagen lower ride height mean and feels more nimble not by that much probaly but certainly more, but if i recall coreectly the transmission are different, I think you get a regular 6 speed auto instead of a dual clutch and i believe some safety tech is not avaliable on the Alltrack, correct me if im wrong someone, i have taken a look at the updated 2018 versions.

The biggest thing in my opinion is that the Alltrack has a significantly nicer interior than the Sportwagen. Either one would be a really interesting platform for mods, especially with a 6MT.

I would take the DSG. Changes gear much better than I ever did.

Shane Martin duh

Chase Short with so many manufacturers doing away with manuals surprised me to see a manual on something other than an entry level cheap car

Yes and it's one reason it's probably my top choice so far for a winter/utility/commute vehicle to supplement my 1 series

Yeah, my Alltrack's best time is 7.25 0-60, just a hair off the Car & Driver test of 7.5 seconds. I Noticed from launch the VW had a horrible start. When ever doing 0-60 tests you always do at least 3 tests.

Not buying the SEL package saved us 6k It will cost me less than $1500 to upgrade my front and rear lights when i want, i'd rather have paid $22k for my All track vs 30+k

For sure! A stage 1 tuned Alltrack with DSG will definitely be just as fast, if not faster than a stock Allroad.

Well to start, one engine is transverse, the other is longitudinal. Obviously has to be different.

2 completely different AWD systems. Haldex and Quattro.

Allroad was traditionally Torsen no?

Well the Alltrack is faster and drives better than the 3.6R. We drove a 3.6 for a week and the VW is simply the better car and MUCH more affordable.

It depends on production year, engine/transmission and market. There are A4's Allroad with torsen or with quattro ultra.

Schnitzel ist gut (Schnitzel is good). Very nice Canal. Greetings from Germany

Große Schnitzel sind mir egal? (Big schnitzel don't care?)

Haldex was never ever used in any A4. Some versions got quattro ultra but that's entirely different drivetrain.

tune them both and see what happens then ;)

This comment just made me want an Alltrack really bad.

@@gearheadtechnology Fudge yeah!

Lucas Côté It's a mashup video. The cars are supposed to be different. It's not a 1:1 comparison.

They should get the Passat Alltrack for this test..

58.5 att road vs 66.6 all track. Just so your numbers are correct

It does have hill hold. Least the 2019 Alltrack I test drove had it.

Known to be junk that’s why they switch to coil overs in the newer models

@@jimmywoo7875 everywhere but the U.S. you can get air suspension

The 4WD Superbs are running exactly the same Haldex hardware as 4Motion VW cars. The 280 TSI Superb comes only in 4WD. The other's (Apart from the weakest engines) have it as an option. As for quality, have you looked in a Superb recently?

AWD is still not the norm from any car manufacturer apart from Subaru. Having enough torque to break the tyres free on dry road until 3rd gear on my FWD car means there is no point upgrading power any further without driving the rest of the wheels, so if I upgrade it will be the 4WD car I'll go for. Based on what I've seen in car rentals anywhere I've used them, the rental agency will always claim their cars are fully equipped, but what they actually rent will still be a poverty spec with the weakest engine option. 7 years ago my car came with full leather interior, 4 heated seats, panoramic roof, electric seat adjustment, steering HID headlamps, auto dipping wing and interior mirrors, auto lights and wipers, cruise control, satnav, DVD player, detachable towbar, front and rear parking sensors, automatic parking, umbrella in the door, detachable magnetic LED torch in the boot etc. etc. as well as cargo space that easily matches an A6 Estate even though the A6 is a bigger car and rear seat leg room that's heading for A8 (Though not A8L) territory. Mine was not the top spec either, so I missed out on DSG, cooled seats, TV tuner, powered tailgate and a few other bits and pieces. The cooled seats are the only feature I would like to have and make use of. Having looked through a showroom full of Audis a while back and not seen where the premium prices are coming from, combined with hearing from enough people who've gone from Passats, A6s and 5 series BMWs to Skoda Superbs and considered it a quality upgrade, it sounds more like most Audi buyers are driven by badge snobbery, espeically given most Audis and BMWs sold in here in Ireland are lower specced than the Skodas. Quality is very subjective though - it depends on what you think it constitutes, but in Ireland €100 000 for an A6 gets you the same spec as a €60 000 Superb. The difference is the figure for the Superb is about as much as you can pay for one in the first place, while Audi has only just got started with taking your money at that point.

I'm pretty sure Skoda Superb 280 would not beat the A4 allroad in the drag. Audi's 2.0TFSI engines always overperform regarding 0-60/0-100 and power. In real life it is 290+ HP engine. Lets remember it has more torque than the Superb and the gearbox is faster as well. Skoda and VW use the older 2.0T engine with less torque and mark it as a 280HP, which is probably real, based on owners opinions. Audi's real 0-60 is just over 5s which is faster than the Skoda and extremely good for a 2.0-liter wagon, even compared to some bigger 6-cylinder engines!

Vw makes Audi so lol

Yes

No it doesnt. The c5 a6 allroad had some issues with the transmission but that also applied to the regular a6 with the 2.7t and the b5 s4 automatic. There aren't any problems specific to the allroad

Not exactly a "shady" thing, but the adjustable air suspension isn't a great thing to have if you plan on keeping the car long term. The older Allroads would start to have problems with those around 100k. I suppose conventional shocks/struts go bad over time too, but they're undeniably simpler to deal with than the air ride system.

It's also $10k+ more expensive, so you're better off with the VW in most cases