MasZakrY and what a 5 seconds they were! But yeah, it probably works and down to preference. Come to think of it, I guess no new controller? I have a problem with drift so I don’t use it.
Great video. As a 2017 Shield TV owner, I was more than a bit peeved seeing as how Nvidia kept dodging all questions about a potential Dolby Vision update for the Shield TV, only to release a new and improved version with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos support. They're literally the same hardware, so I don't see any reason why these features couldn't have been added to the 2017 Shield TV, but I digress.
@Brooke Stern I'm aware. I think that all of us who own the 2017 Shield TV are, and that's the issue. I expect things like this to a certain extent, but we all know that Dolby Vision can be implemented as a software update. When people asked Nvidia for two years, they kept saying that HDR10 is good enough. You live and you learn.
Basic nvidia marketing. Look at gpus and see what nvidia have done there for years, worse now that new generations only give about 10% extra performance for more than a 10% price increase.
Not familiar with this but I imagine a rom will eventually exist that let's you use the 2019 software on the 2017 shield. Unless the shield is one of those devices that's locked down of course.
Well there's quite a few channels that cover these exact same things, you just didn't look good enough. You'd have ran into ETA prime, and a few others.
As someone who didn’t own a 2015 or 17 version I got one of these and really enjoy it 🤷🏻♂️ hooked a 1 tb external drive up and no problems at all. Thanks for the video
You are asking a bit too much from a company that doesn't even provide 4GB of proper vram as advertised and written on the spec and box of the GTX970 :P
Your YT channel is my favorite one so far ever. Each time I watch a new video of yours I realize it’s all I expect from a YT channel. True gold to me ! I hope you’ll go on for a long time. All the very best from France 🤛🏼
@First Last Dang man I didnt even notice you. Its kind of funny that you were waiting this whole time for a response, I thought nothing of this video after I watched it and went on with my life. Until you commented a day later on my RU-vid channel. A day later dude? Like, you are that salty man? Ffs go rub one out of your small epenis kid.
A couple of Audible recommendations for computing/hacking... 2. Exploding the Phone: The Untold Story of the Teenagers and Outlaws Who Hacked Ma Bell - Excellent book, has a lot of really early phone history, stuff I've never heard before. Absolutely worth checking out. 1. The Dream Machine - Amazing history of early computing leading into the creation of networking and the internet. It seems like it would be really boring, but it's one of the best books I've ever listened to. Can't put this book over enough. Honorable mention: Where Wizards Stay Up Late - A really interesting read about the creation of what would become the internet, the thing that makes this book so enjoyable is that it's written back in the late 90s, so the internet was becoming a thing, but wasn't anything close to what it is today.
@referral madness Awesome, let me know what you think. Also might I highly suggest to listen to them at 1.25x speed. While the books are good, your mind (or at least my mind) will always drift to some extent, however listening to them at slightly faster speeds seems to make that less of an issue. I can't do 1.5x speed as it is too fast and makes it unlistenable, but 1.25x speed is just about perfect.
i already have Audible but I got the book you are reading. i find your channel and its content refreshing and informative so I would love to gift you a book on audible or send you a credit. From one Synthwave enthusiast to another.
Its not worth it no more, when i got it last year it still had Gta5, Doom, Fallout 4 and many more games available all in 4k and ultra high settings, now its only valve games and Hitman
Once you got to the travel part, you had me. Last time I went away for work I had several team members in my room playing my Super Nintendo Mini. This would give us a lot more options for multiplayer games.
Switched over to the 2017 Shield TV just recently, after using a RP3 for many years... This is a must have for anyone seriously into emulation that also wants to have portability on the road! Me and the GF play countless hours of old school games during downtime in our hotels while on vacation, intimacy no longer needed.
I'm gonna skip the competition, although it would be nice to have the device. However, I got too much stuff going on and can't afford play anything for the time being. I wish everyone the best of luck to win this.
Switch is 4 gb of ram, 32 gb of storage, has dedicated controllers that come with the device, nothing like the switch. And at least the switch does not sell the same hardware and tells you its new. And its not.
@lone wolf Well, an updated Switch hasn't been sold yet. You never know if Nintendo wants to also go crazy and lose all their fans like Bethesda and Game Freaks.
Where does Nvidia state it is 25% faster? It doesn't! What it does state on its web site is " NVIDIA Tegra X1+ processor, SHIELD TV is up to 25% faster than the previous generation." the "up to" is what most commentators miss off.
I have 2 OG Nvidia Shield Tablets. When we bought the tablet, the only tablet on the market that beat it in any benchmarks was the intel i7 based surface tabs. A couple of batteries burnt up out in the wild (like, a fairly small amount), Nvidia did the right thing and sent everyone replacements for free. That's admirable customer service. I think the final officially updated Android OS is finally at the point where things are slowing down, so I'm at the point where I want to do custom firmware. Hardware wise, everything is still powerful as heck. Crazy to think that an almost 6 year old tablet is still so powerful. So glad I opted for the shield way back when, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Nvidia's non graphics specific products.
TheLegendOfXela That’s good news. Just checked the list of supported online games and there are only 4, 1 called homeland and the rest are PSO games. Double dash & 1080 Avalanche say LAN only, would be nice to get the lan to connect worldwide
Still using my 2015 model. I use it a lot for my entire couch experience pretty much. Streamed PC games, native android games, lots of emulation and of course general content consumption. It’s by far the best set-top box/gaming device you can buy and personally at $200, if you’re looking for a gaming system, a set-top box and streaming device wrapped up in a great interface, it’s probably still worth it.
Excellent video. I have a 2017 Shield and it is my baby. I love this device. I was looking at the 2019 version as well. I will be honest tho, I mainly use it for media streaming (plex). I did not consider that I could also play GC, DC, etc on it. Usually when I think emulation I think SNES, NES, and GBA. So ty for opening my mind to that. I will check it out.
I legit want an Nvidia Shield,I love emulation and I have been interested in the features this product has. Honestly its always a blast to watch your videos sir,lots of useful information for someone who has been dabbling in emulation since the 90's! Keep up the amazing work sir!
Running android on the nintendo switch + running emulators is much more interesting because it has the same powerful SoC that can be easily and safely overclocked to 1,7 Ghz for cpu and something around 900mhz for gpu. This will drain your battery quickly but there are no overheating issues as long as you don´t dock it or use a third party dock which doesn´t cover the vents. And maybe it´s the most powerful android handheld that i´ve ever seen.
Did they keep everything practically the same to avoid needing recertification or FCC (like the Mi Box?) Almost no reason to upgrade from the 2015 or 2017 models.
Nice video - I almost fell in love with that unit. Sadly Amazon sells the Nvidia Shield TV Pro in my country for 346,29 € *Which is riduculously overpriced!*
Thanks. I just got an nVidia Shield basic; the one that looks like a toilet paper tube. I like it for the snappy response when viewing RU-vid. But I want to get the Pro version so I can set it up with Plex server for my media. The basic only runs 32-bit OS, and can't run Plex. I appreciate the this video for informing me the specs on the 2019 version.
interesting just how far emulation has come since 2000 , and the amount of devices it is running on,. but i suppose since linux/GNU open souce this has helped a lot.
Whenever a company resorts to using percentages to rate a product's quality, that's when you know the difference probably won't be noticeable enough to justify an increase in cost.
@@GraveUypo True. But, a company that triples performance would usually advertise the stats as opposed to some abstract percentage. The percentage game is just a marketing ploy and a tactic to disguise what changes, if any, occurred.
@Brooke Stern 500 go for streaming and play music and video files, make me laugh there, you obviously do not know everything you can do with this TV shield ... "emulator roms" not after you can emulate ps1 / dreamcast / you have 500-700mo by disc, and their ludotheque is very provided, you have for a lot of gigas! Add applications,movies (if you are big eater of movies, you could have hundreds of gig to add. The streaming talk in, I have not used it yet but it will not be long, I think the storage will not be too big. In fact the most important is how it is done at the memory expansion level, whether it is managed as an internal memory, or external, very important, and easier to install stuff.
Yeh I've got like a hacked WiiU, hacked 360, CFW PS3, hacked PSP, Vita, 3DS, Wii, NES, SNES, PS1 CLASSICS and I think thats everything but I'm getting Mister soon but I love checking out device capabilities hey so yeh still might cop one of these. I don't have a set media player tbh so this could be it :) Great vid as usual MVG!!!!!
You should do a video on building a unit that is as compact as the nvidia shield, cheaper, or more expensive. would love to see the progress and the hardships.
I'm very satisfied with the 2019 Pro, never got a Shield before. For years I've used Raspberry Pi's which always seem to crash or have other issues so I'm just really sick of dealing with them. Shield's are much more expensive but its worth it to me.
I got the 2017 Shield TV at Best Buy for $199. I got the remote, and controller bundle. I felt I just had to try the controller out. It's fine, I just wish the home menu button, wasn't with the start button, on the bottom. All the time I go to pause a game, and it goes to the menu. Oh well, still not bad
I have been a Shield owner for about 3 years now. I cannot recommend it enough! It is one hell of a device for retro gamers and digital media consumers alike. Very, very good buy if you don't have one. I do have a complaint. The Shield controller is cool and has great features and a great feel but, the right control stick get a drift problem. This wakes them up and drains the battery and messes with you in game. This has happened to me with two of their controllers.
Awesome detailed overview of the emulation capabilities.. Now just waiting for the back ordered pro to get here since I never the shield before. (unless I win) I was originally going to get it for android box, casting, play store games type of thing. Had no idea there was this emulation quality was so good on this thing. I'm still using my OG Xbox for that.
so there is no benefit to getting the 2019 version, the new enhancements won't benefit the emulation at all which is a shame but believe me the price of the shield tv is well worth the cost compared to buying legacy hardware and the retro games outright plus the convenience of not having to hook up your old consoles, it's all in one, you are saving thousands. I've never heard of that dreamcast emulator that you mentioned? I use raicast, i use the rest of the Emulators you mentioned plus I use the John emulators for the older gameboy/nes/snes stuff too it's a great emulating machine and nothing beats it on the market.
Tegra X1+ also packs a bigger punch than the NX-SoC which is the SoC used in Nintendo Switch. They are both 64 bit ARMv8 but the X1+ has 8 physical cores compared to the NX-SoC which only has 4 the frequency is "capped" at 1.9ghz for the X1+ and respectable but much lower 1.02ghz for the NX-SoC now the GPU may be the same model the clock surely is not the X1+'s GPU clock is "capped" at 1.267mhz while the one on the NX-SoC is only 921mhz it may not seem much but believe me it is since X1+ can output up to a 4K resolution of 4096x2160 whereas the one on the NX-SoC can only output a full HD resolution which of course is 1920x1080. Looking at this one might conclude that this could be made portable in the same way they originally did with the NVIDIA Shield tablet and with those specs its more than capable of playing some triple-A titles which were presented on the weaker hardware of Nintendo Switch. Who knows whats Nvidia planning.
Frustrating part is you can't find these unless you wanna be taken by price gouging. This can't be found for the regular normal MSRP of $200. I really wanna upgrade from my 2015 model.
I still have the 2015 model, and love it.. tho recently moved and gained a extra room that will be a game room, so thinking of moving the 2015 model to that room and getting the new model for my living room.
PSA: Even if you don't do emulation, but have a good TV, this device is a must-have. One of, if not the only set top boxes which can output 4k HEVC in 10bit HDR without any issues. You can watch your movies to your TV's full potential with this.
I'm waiting patiently for a brand new Shield TV, not an old recycled model. I'll keep using my 2017 model for the time being. It's an amazing emulation device (among other things).
Samey and more expensive or not, I'm happy to see Nvidia keeping it up with these devices. The Switch carries the, "But your system might get blackballed by Nintendo." caveat, RetroPie is a lost cause for pretty much everything that came out after the PS1 due to hardware limitations, phones suck in general and are more of a solo AIO device than this, Android tablets are all but dead outside of the budget space (as opposed to when they were the new thing and all that extra battery was put toward a better screen and faster SoC than the phones of the day), and this wonderful pocketable toy and its predecessor are fit to run Dolphin competently right out of the box. It takes up basically no table space, and it's dead simple to lug it over to a friend's house. It's basically everything that the handle on the Gamecube represented, except there's no option to run discs. I'm sure emulation potential isn't even on Nvidia's radar for these things, so I hope these stay popular enough for their marketed purposes, so that NV keeps on making them. Maybe someday they'll actually update the hardware a bit more meaningfully, too.
Whether you have the 2015 model, 2017 or this new version, nothing beats emulation on the Shield using the Hyperspin frontend and Retroarch combo and if you want to take it up a notch emulating the more modern systems like ps3, xbox 360, Wii u, Switch etc then get Shadow. You're basically streaming a high end Windows 10. Imagine playing Mario Kart 8 with a shield controller, yes it's very possible.
Great episode, as always. If I weren't having to save money for other things, I'd definitely look into this device. Sounds like it'll be fine waiting half a year or so, though. One device I was hoping you'd look into are the "gaming phones", especially the Asus ROG Phone 2. Seems like it could be a great device for emulating many older handheld platforms, including the DS/3DS games with the twin screen dock and Kunai controllers (which can dock onto the side of the phone, switch style). I don't know if it has enough horsepower to power many of these emulators, though.
I have the tablet version hooked up to my TV via a HDMI mini to HDMI Cable. I use an Xbox One S Controller for Input. My only Gripe is that the battery at this point, Drains Faster than it charges.
the 25% boost is likely solely from the die shrink, and would increase thermal headroom. the switch got amazing battery life from this die shrink, so likely you would see much better results if you overclock the shield tv pro.
As far as I know there are no properly working ps3 emulators yet and ps2 emulation still has many flaws, so that would be a challenge on this thing considering it's speed (but then again I'm no expert on emulation, some genius should definitely be able to get it working)
@@prsplayer210 not true. you don't really need a high end PC, actually depends on the game, for example red dead redemption needs a beast PC and devil may cry doesn't.
@@dennisjassmann7584 I don't think we will get ps3 emulating for a while yet on android, not for a long time anyway, the fact that it's starting to run ps2 games is good enough for now.
@@HUYI1 Yeah kind of sad when you think about it, but then again the PS3 was quite difficult to code on (like MVG showed last video) and the filesizes of the games don't exactly help it. Even the Xbox 360 emulation is still relatively in its infancy, so it will take at least another console generation before we see some real progress there i think.
EPSXE is really good, I played through Megaman Legends 2 on it. I did find I had to switch between 2 render's at the point where 1 of the dungeons gets flooded with water. 1 Renderer runs better overall but at the flooded part it causes issues, the otherone is a bit slower but doesnt suffer the issues the opengl renderer does.
I wish in the near future they would develop an android emulator for the PS2. Isn’t GameCube and Dreamcast in the same era as the ps2? And yet they are emulated nicely on the shield.
I'm not well-versed in the technical aspects of how consoles work, but it depends on how the consoles handled data. That's why Saturn emulation has always been tough. The Gamecube actually had a faster processor than the PS2, but processing power is only part of the puzzle. I would assume the Gamecube's execution of data was more straight forward.
I would love to see a compiled list over the best emulators (according to MVG) for each system to use with Nvidia Shield. I personally prefer separate emulators over RetroArch and its cores.
I was thinking about buying one of these. But I realize that I can just connect my laptop to TV, pair a controller to it, and emulate. My laptop costs $200 on eBay (with a i5, 16GB of RAM, and 256GB storage), and it can emulate PS2 and older consoles at full speed. If this console costs $120 and below. I'll buy one in a heartbeat.
I really love the theme song but there is an annoying clip in the high register of the snare that I have noticed on my monitors. Just looking out for ya! Keep up the great vids.
I use the Nvidia Shield for streaming movies. I have a question. The new Nvidia Shield TV Pro supports Dolby Vision. Now if my TV does not support Dolby Vision, will the Nvidia Shield TV Pro apply some sort of filter and apply SOME sort of colour enhancement? Thanks for the video buddy. Your review is the most informative out of ALL the Nvidia Shield TV Pro reviews out there.
I love your vids and you have unlimited cred in my book. But...2160p60! God Da-I SAY GOD DAMN!!! I would honestly love to know who watches at that resolution. My poor 2015 macbook pro is skipping and lagging at that. I turned it down and all is well, but I had to make a self-important comment, nonetheless. PLEASE KEEP MAKING AWESOME VIDS!
I would much rather have a few dollars extra put into the cost of the integrated storage to maybe 128gb or even 256gb than AI stream smoothing. Or Dolby anything.
I recently picked up a 2017 Shield TV with a Shield Controller for only $100. Based on what you presented in this review, I'd say there's no real reason to jump to the 2019 version with the 399 dollar price tag. (Amazon)
