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2020 Colt Python vs Original Colt Python 

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In this video I compare the characteristic differences between the newly released 2020 Coly Python and an "original" Colt Python from 1982. The classic Python used has a Royal Blue finish and a 4" barrel. The new 2020 Colt Python has a stainless finish and a 6" barrel. I also discuss the historic lineage of the Python and hopefully help buyers identify which option will best fit the "Python hole" in their collection.

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@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 4 года назад
One thing I forgot to mention in the video: Colt released the Python in "satin stainless" in 1984 and "mirror stainless" in 1985. Thanks for watching :-D
@danewhitt489
@danewhitt489 4 года назад
And Matt brushed stainless..
@dbelex
@dbelex 4 года назад
Brushed stainless was available in 1980!
@markfreburg1608
@markfreburg1608 4 года назад
You also said you were going to say why you didn't think Colt would make the Gen 2 in blue but I don't believe you ultimately said anything on that in the video.
@highlanderfreelancer4553
@highlanderfreelancer4553 4 года назад
I would want one older than that the hammer is not one peice with the firing pin. What was the last year for a non lawyer hammer?
@Festus_The_Artificer
@Festus_The_Artificer 4 года назад
The locking up problem is most likely from short strokeing the trigger or mabye a slightly misaligned part
@sorryociffer
@sorryociffer 4 года назад
One of the best, most well round, fair, and concise overviews I've seen for this gun.
@mrsa101
@mrsa101 4 года назад
amen. now.............. do i get one!
@sorryociffer
@sorryociffer 4 года назад
@@mrsa101 I probably would...if i could get the deep royal blue...
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP 4 года назад
I began a career in law enforcement in 1973. The department I worked for required that we buy our own revolvers. I chose a Colt Trooper MKIII, 4" barrel, nickel plated. The price was $154.00 at the local gun dealer. I wanted a S&W Model 19 but it was $175 and I couldn't afford it. By comparison they had Colt Pythons available for $225 !!!!!!! Oddly enough, S&W handguns at the time were being sold for more than retail cost in most places. The Model 19 retailed for $149 but were selling for $175, and that was a blued model. They were in huge demand by police officers as they were lighter and trimmer than the Colt models. FYI...the Model 29 .44 Magnum had a retail cost of about $200 at that time but you couldn't find one anywhere for under $500 (Thanks to "Dirty Harry") I still have my Trooper MKIII, the box and sales receipt. It is not as good as a Python, not even close, but it is a good sturdy revolver. Somewhere in there I also bought a S&W Model 28, but the Colt was my primary duty revolver. In 1986 the department allowed us the option to carry semi-autos and in 1988 I chose to purchase a Beretta 92FS and qualify with it.
@johnshaft5613
@johnshaft5613 Год назад
Interesting. I started my career in law enforcement a bit later than you, but carried a Model 66 Smith the first few years. I always thought the Colts were "sexier" guns, particularly the Python, but for some reason always greatly preferred the feel and ergonomics of the Smith revolvers. My S&W Model 66 was $249 when I purchased it in 1981. I wish I had kept it, but after I stopped carrying it on duty I had it converted to a PPC revolver, shot it in competition for a while, then lost interest and sold it. Stupid.
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP Год назад
@@johnshaft5613 The stainless guns were new and very expensive in 1973. Certainly out of reach of a broke rookie. They did become more popular with time, but my Nickle plated Colt had stood up well to cold, snowy winters and hot humid summers. So I stuck with it. I carried 4 duty guns in my career. The Colt Trooper MKIII, a S&W Model 28, a Beretta 92FS and a SIG P228. I also had a S&W 6904 but preferred the SIG. Both the P228 and S&W 6904 were my duty guns for plainclothes duty from 1990 until I retired in 2009. We always had to buy our own duty guns from a pre-approved roster and had to qualify with every we gun we carried, even off duty guns. It was against policy to carry any gun (on duty or off) that wasn't "registered" with the department and that you had not qualified with. The choices allowed for off-duty guns were pretty wide open, though. Over the years I collected a pretty wide variety of off duty guns. Until 1991 new officers could choose whether to carry a revolver of a semi-auto. After 1991, all new hires had to carry semi autos, again from an approved roster. I did finally buy a Model 19 a few years into my career, but it is a 2.5" RB model which I used for off duty carry. I still own and still shoot all of them. My sons will get them when I am "finished using them"
@johnshaft5613
@johnshaft5613 Год назад
@@garyK.45ACP You had a long career. I started 10 years after you and retired in 2011, only two years after you. I went S&W 66, Beretta 92SB, Beretta 92 Elite, Sig 226, Glock 17. The Sig and Glock were department issued guns. I was in a unit with a lot of range training and I decided to stop beating up my own gear. Nothing sexy about the Glock but I shot it the best and feel it was the best/most efficient no-nonsense weapon. But they were all great weapons that I had 100% confidence in.
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP Год назад
@@johnshaft5613 Yes, 36 years and I loved my career. I would have worked another 10 if I could have. But...fate will take it's cut, and in December, 2009 I had a heart attack while on duty. (No donut jokes! I've heard all of them!) After a few months of recovery, I was offered a "promotion" to administrative desk duty and chose to retire and go fishing. I wasn't a desk duty kind of guy. I wasn't too good at being retired at first, but I am pleased to say that I am now an expert!
@richardjohnson4238
@richardjohnson4238 4 года назад
I believe this is the best review of the 2020 Python I've seen to date. I used to own a 1964 Python with a 4" barrel, but had to sell it when I was out of work. I figured I'd never get another. When Colt announced the 2020 Python, I knew I wanted one. I purchased one about two week ago, and have put 250 flawless rounds of 357 ammo through it over three trips to the range. If there is any difference between the "new" and the "old" I can't remember the old well enough to say (with the exception of the blue finish on the old). Thanks for the good review, and I'm glad I found it.
@blacknikespurpleblankie1354
@blacknikespurpleblankie1354 2 года назад
I just bought a 2022 4.5” colt python it is a beautiful handgun. The action is smooth as silk and haven’t had an issue yet.
@justinmorgan5975
@justinmorgan5975 4 года назад
As soon as I turn 21 I'm getting the 2020. Have been wantone one for 3 years. Love them sm
@wewd
@wewd 4 года назад
Start saving your money and buy the original instead.
@circleh5173
@circleh5173 4 года назад
No new will be better investment old one are way to high and you shouldn’t shoot old one buy new have fun and it will go up in value and u won’t have as much in it
@mr.aizawa5257
@mr.aizawa5257 3 года назад
@@wewd save up 3,000 dollars? Thats unreasonable for a gun. Way too overpriced. I love the old pythons, but c'mon, this person is probably getting what they can afford.
@emello4you
@emello4you 3 года назад
I have been wanting one for as far back as before you were born and I finally got, not 1, but 2, this month. Both the 4.25" and 6" and now loving life!
@Ligmanuttz
@Ligmanuttz 5 месяцев назад
@@wewdno they have better build quality now and unless you’re a collector it’s not worth getting an old python and shooting it potentially ruining it
@bryanmchugh1307
@bryanmchugh1307 4 года назад
This is one of the best 2020 vs classic Python vids I have seen.
@ironmann16
@ironmann16 4 года назад
I own the 6 inch 2020 Python, and I absolutely adore it. There are so many people out there trashing this gun, and frankly, it pisses me off. The fact of the matter is that Colt took a gun that used to be a purely collectable, and used cheaper, more precise modern engineering to produce a more affordable, more shooter friendly version of arguably the best .357 revolver ever made. The biggest complaint is that they aren't hand fitted. People don't seem to realize that they were hand fitted gun out of necessity, because they couldn't produce perfectly mated parts every time like is possible today. Yes, the finish may not be AS refined as the original. That being said, it's because the new one is meant to be shot, and used. Not just put on display in a collectors cabinet. Just my two cents.
@Harvard_Fairway
@Harvard_Fairway 2 года назад
Amen to this comment. I own a new 6” Python and the trash people say who DON’T EVEN OWN ONE is unbelievable. Everyone butt-hurt over the way they are made with modern machinery…sorry folks that technology advanced
@jb6027
@jb6027 4 года назад
It's nice to enjoy a logical review on this subject that is totally devoid of hysterics. Thank you.
@dben842504
@dben842504 3 года назад
I used to have a 4 inch Nickel Python and carried it as a deputy sheriff in the 80"s. It was a great gun, but had a timing issue after I carried it for awhile.
@kariningham7490
@kariningham7490 4 года назад
Great vid. I learned something from it. Mine was built by only 2 craftsmen, kind of cool. Mine is a 1956 6" two tone salesmen gun ( to show the different types of finishes available). Still shoot as smooth as when I got it in 1970.
@mauwalker
@mauwalker 2 года назад
I carried a Python on the job in the 1990s, a 1960s state highway patrolman’s retired revolver. I never could keep it in time but I loved it. I went back to school a few years later and sold it to buy books. I never thought I’d get another, as they’re very expensive and it’s unusual to see them under 2000 bucks. Got lucky recently and found one for retail, and got it. It reminds me very much of the one I carried, same smooth trigger action and balance, maybe a bit heavier. It’s better than the original one I had for reliability. I’m glad they are back and that I managed to get one.
@rl1236
@rl1236 4 года назад
Great review...I have an original Python 6 inch blue...best shooting gun I have ever shot.
@triplblack
@triplblack 4 года назад
Great comparison video. I love my 2020 Python(0018**). Great fit/finish and functions flawlessly. I’ve heard of problems some have had with theirs, but I personally have had zero issues with mine. Great gun.
@nathand3270
@nathand3270 4 года назад
I've had light primer strikes with ammo with harder primers but Colt fixed the problem right away and now it's a fantastic gun.
@zachmcclintock2041
@zachmcclintock2041 4 года назад
Nathan D do you happen to know what date the started implementing the changes?
@nathand3270
@nathand3270 4 года назад
@@zachmcclintock2041 I'm not sure but there is a video on here that shows the markings located under the cylinder if it has had the upgrades.
@nathand3270
@nathand3270 4 года назад
@@zachmcclintock2041 Here is the video Colt released addressing the problem. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vSBuhMC5JLA.html
@zachmcclintock2041
@zachmcclintock2041 4 года назад
Nathan D thanks
@randallscott-key802
@randallscott-key802 3 года назад
6:11: "Reproduction" The original manufacturer CANNOT make a "reproduction," only and extension of production, yet even so, the NEW Python is NOT a "reproduction" but an entirely NEW revolver with upgrades and advancements in metallurgy, CAD/CAM, and advanced powered steels that are far superior to traditional forgings or castings! The NEW Python is definitely NOT a "reproduction" but an IMPROVED version of the original model!
@TXGRunner
@TXGRunner 2 года назад
You're right. Even if it were identical, the proper term is "reissue," not reproduction. @SmallArmsSolutions made the point, and I agree, the revolver is different and should be the Python II or Python, Mark I, or some distinction in the name.
@gregingemunson5127
@gregingemunson5127 Год назад
Just bought the new python 4.25. Carried the original in the 70’s. Had issues with lite primer strikes so traded it for a model 19 S&W.. I also have the 686 and the 586. All great revolvers!
@samwalker7821
@samwalker7821 2 года назад
Not to mention my age but I remember when the Python was introduced in 1955 along with the 2nd generation Colt SAA. Both listed for $125. That was a lot of money at the time. Many of the later one's didn't have the great butter smooth action of the earlier one's, but with a little judicious stoning could easily be slicked up to 1955 standards. Back in 1955 some real quality revolvers were available like some models of the S&W magnums, but the Python really stood out with that lugged barrel and beautiful royal blue finish. I've got three originals now, but in my youth I could only dream of owning one. If I got a bonus or a raise the first thing that came to mind in later years was, WOW a new Python! This new version looks and feels nice. I wish they were more generally available. I definitely want one!
@gregorybernard1101
@gregorybernard1101 4 месяца назад
Outstanding review!!! Very informative. I just bought the 2024 Colt Python Blued. Can't DROS for another 60 days but it is worth the waite. Thanks again for an oustanding video. GB
@ThuNguyen-rm3iw
@ThuNguyen-rm3iw 4 года назад
The old Python hammer is better looking than the new python hammer!
@jasonstl636
@jasonstl636 4 года назад
They really screwed that up but other than that I would have kept the same trigger design too. I just ordered one a couple days ago for close to MSRP so I couldn't pass it up. Should be here after the weekend, can't wait.
@hobbz4921
@hobbz4921 3 года назад
agreed, the checkered look is better.
@Abber64
@Abber64 4 года назад
Good review, but I was hoping on seeing the internal differences by viewing the mechanisms as there are some reported changes. Also, I was hoping on getting the trigger pull weight comparison in Double Action, as that is what a revolver is usually shot in.
@mattjohnson8090
@mattjohnson8090 4 года назад
Buy your own and tear your own apart u knob
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 Год назад
@@mattjohnson8090 I made the mistake of buying a new King Cobra. The double action trigger was bad and the reset was horrible. I opened it up and found a dumbed down version of the Colt v-spring action with a chipped hand. 😢
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 4 года назад
Best comparison I’ve seen yet! Nice job!
@icorezx14r
@icorezx14r 4 года назад
New Python = Bling Old Python = Life Insurance
@MrJohnnyArcher
@MrJohnnyArcher Год назад
I have several of the “Classics” Python from 1967 to early 80’s They all shoot like a dream and The action is very smooth!
@jeffreyszelewicz561
@jeffreyszelewicz561 4 года назад
Have you shot the 2020 Python Chris ? Any problems ? There has been word of lite primer strikes and a problem with the cylinder stoping it’s normal rotation.. Love your channel Bro !!
@shootinnscootin5545
@shootinnscootin5545 Месяц назад
I am going to be buying a 1978 6 inch Python from a buddy of mine. It's in beautiful condition for It's age and the bluing is really nice. Has the original grips and a nice leather holster. I am really excited to get my hands on it. I've always wanted one. It has one of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt, especially on single action. If you have a chance to buy one I highly recommend it!
@shwesq
@shwesq 4 года назад
The grips on the new gun appear to be Altamont's "Super Walnut" which is really laminated Birch with a Walnut stain. I don't have a problem with this as I actually think they are more attractive than the solid Walnut grips. And anyone familiar with AKs knows that laminated Birch is a really tough material.
@bubbajones5905
@bubbajones5905 4 года назад
Colt is calling them "Walnut". They are not.
@shwesq
@shwesq 4 года назад
@@bubbajones5905 Kimber does the same thing with the "Walnut" grips on their K6s DASA. While I think Altamont's "Super Walnut" is at least as attractive and desirable as real Walnut, I think they should be honest. Ruger and Smith & Wesson refer to such grips on their guns as "Checkered Hardwood" and "Textured Wood" respectively.
@bubbajones5905
@bubbajones5905 4 года назад
@@shwesq I guess that's what bugs me. Why can't they just be honest?
@HarryCallahan-c8e
@HarryCallahan-c8e 2 года назад
I JUST got my brand new Colt Python 4.25" and I`m in love. The only thing I don`t care for is the cylinder release that pull=s back rather than pushing, but I`ll gladly adapt. And if I had been able to get a blued model, I`d have gone that route, but these are entirely insignificant issues. I`ll take her out very soon to ensure she shoots and functions well.
@MrSmith-zy2bp
@MrSmith-zy2bp 2 года назад
I've been set on getting the 6" but the 4.25" is nagging me too. While it wouldn't look as good as the original Python bluing, a 4.25" blackish finish, like on their Night Cobra, would be really tempting.
@HarryCallahan-c8e
@HarryCallahan-c8e 2 года назад
@@MrSmith-zy2bp C`mon, NOTHING comes close to the new Colt Python. I LOVE my new Colt Python SS 4.24". I get that for the originalist's the original Pythons were the bomb, it1s a new day.
@MrSmith-zy2bp
@MrSmith-zy2bp 2 года назад
@@HarryCallahan-c8e Dude, reread what I wrote. I'm talking about the bluing done on guns 50 years ago. I'm in the camp that the revisions on the new Python makes it a more robust and durable design. But nobody can do the old bluing finish that were put on the old guns. It's high artwork that can't be reproduced anymore.
@wapiti3750
@wapiti3750 4 года назад
Fire ........ Arm. Your pause when you say it cracks me up every time!
@djarnoldo516
@djarnoldo516 4 года назад
Excellent, thorough review. Thanks. I have seen original snake guns in box selling for over $4k.
@gunsandcars3648
@gunsandcars3648 2 года назад
just got mine today, wish it was nickel but looks good in lightly buffed stainless, worth the investment.
@mag318
@mag318 4 года назад
I was at a large gun shop that had 5 original Pythons in stock. Checking the actions by slowly cocking the hammer, 3 were out of time. This was quite a common occurrence with all Colt DA revolvers from the same time period and the main reason many preferred Smith & Wesson revolvers. Hopefully with the new action the timing won't be an issue like with the old ones. Regardless I'm buying a new one to go along with my originals. So I thank Colt for bringing back the snake guns.
@isaiahmadrid6738
@isaiahmadrid6738 3 года назад
The thing about old Colts is that you can't judge their timing on the same basis as Smith & Wesson revolvers. Because of the two-stage pawl, Colt revolvers don't always lock up until the hammer is either fully cocked or the trigger is pulled and held all the way to the rear. I own a New Service Target in .44 S&W Special, which locks up at the same time the hammer is cocked. My grandfather owns a Police Positive Special that does not lock up completely until the trigger is held to the rear. While it may seem dangerous or unusual when compared to S&W revolvers, it's actually quite normal and fine, as long as the cylinder does not advance too far or not far enough, and you start shaving lead. That being said, Colt revolvers are generally more prone to wearing of the pawl because of the way it functions, but as long as you are able to keep the pawl maintained when it starts to wear, the rest of the mechanism will last forever. Colt designed the revolvers to have a pawl that bears the brunt of the wear, rather than S&W, where the hand, cylinder stop, and extractor star bear that wear more evenly. The new Python internally seems more similar to S&W revolvers in that the cylinder stop is actuated by the trigger, rather than the rebound lever. While this doesn't necessarily mean that the pawl will wear more slowly, it does mean that the cylinder stop will be much easier to maintain and replace, since it is not buried totally at the back of the action like the older guns were.
@mag318
@mag318 3 года назад
@@isaiahmadrid6738 A properly times Colt will always look up when the hammer is fully cocked. If it doesn't it's out of time. True when you pull the trigger it will lock up but that actually increases the trigger pull. I've even seen S&Ws go out of time but it's much more common in older Colts.
@xray86delta
@xray86delta 3 года назад
Never had a Python, but once had a " tuned" Police Positive .38 Special that had an incredibly smooth trigger pull. If you've ever owned a gun like that, you never forget it! 😉
@woodybatter3896
@woodybatter3896 4 года назад
Absolutely a great review. Thank you.
@mungo7136
@mungo7136 4 года назад
Something that interests me: Gunsmith's skill + old machines vs. accuracy of the modern ones. Decades back you made parts and had skilled people to make final adjustments to make it work perfectly despite small tolerances. Now you may have extremely precise machines to do it for you. How much are still craftsmen needed for the final tuning of the parts?
@Herk-tc4jd
@Herk-tc4jd 15 дней назад
Best overview of old vs new.... I did not know that only the '55-'56 1st gens were all hand built buy only 2 gunsmiths. Mine is a 4 digit 1956 production two tone
@aloyalblue1
@aloyalblue1 4 года назад
I agree that the newer Python will very likely increase in value, as the years roll by. However, the same will definitely be true for the Classic vintage Python as well. Either way, I say "shoot 'em, if ya got 'em... treat 'em kindly, but shoot 'em."
@1339LARS
@1339LARS 3 года назад
The one I own is 1961 it has the smoothest action I have ever felt!!
@splindy
@splindy 3 года назад
Yess!! Mine is from 1965. At this time the Python was nearly handmade including finishing/polishing of the inner mechanics. At the end of the 70th Colt stopped this extraordinary finishing. It was the "dead" of the famous Python. So this comparison is not what i wanted to see. Compare the 2020 Python with on of the 60th or beginning 70th and i will be very VERY interested!!!!!!!
@p00lboy
@p00lboy 3 года назад
i have a late 1969 and it has the smoothest and best trigger of any gun i own
@bripro68
@bripro68 4 года назад
It was interesting reading all the comments from people who think the 2020 python is going to lower the value of the older ones. I’m not taking anything away from the new release but classic is classic and history is history.
@PaulSter
@PaulSter 3 года назад
Excellent back story and video overall.
@doranmaxwell1755
@doranmaxwell1755 3 года назад
My 1970 Python has a few thousand rounds through it with no timing issues. Back in the say I seen one or two that did that were beat to death.
@theworld2781
@theworld2781 Год назад
Smith&Wesson doesn’t make such smooth action revolvers like oldies anymore
@Shafordo
@Shafordo Год назад
Im from Indianapolis, just bought my first colt today, it was the 2020 6". My middle name is Colt, too 😅
@kerk5520
@kerk5520 4 года назад
I had a '70's era Python that was just gorgeous. Used it and enjoyed it. Decided I could get 2 Smith's for the same cost so I sold it to a friend. Silly me! I think I paid $480 at the time. I will definitely be looking at a new 4.25" Python when they are available locally. Great review!
@kerk5520
@kerk5520 4 года назад
@Jerrol Hale I will do that. Thanks! I saw some of the reviews also and was surprised they made it out of the factory like that.
@georgemcray
@georgemcray 3 года назад
Thank you very much for this video.
@neilherrera5497
@neilherrera5497 4 года назад
Great video I love the Colt Python and Original Colt Python revolvers.
@keithknechg3217
@keithknechg3217 4 года назад
The cool factor is over the top.own a 81 ,8" barrel.dont shoot it much,to valuable.
@kariningham7490
@kariningham7490 4 года назад
I have a 1956 Python 2 tone. Only time I had a miss fire was with cheap ammo.
@robkcra
@robkcra 3 года назад
Great review! Thank you. As an owner of a CP circa 1977ish, I have 2 questions: 1. Is there any over travel in the trigger at full draw? 2. Is there any wiggle in the cylinder when you hold the trigger at full draw? Thank you again.
@zachb.6606
@zachb.6606 Год назад
Great video - thank you for the history lesson! I'm not really comparing the new ones to the old (I'm not a collector) but rather to what Smith & Wesson and Ruger are offering. The real question for me is whether these are worth the premium you'd pay over a new GP100 or 686.
@steverichens4242
@steverichens4242 Год назад
Wonderful informative video. These are amazing guns. I remember seeing a message from someone in Russia, that sad…” you are so lucky to live in a free country where you can go and buy a gun“ There is something about the colt python, when I picked one up I could just feel that it was different and well-made
@Neons1223
@Neons1223 4 года назад
Thanks for the review. Can you compare the triggers after about 2000 rounds through the 2020 Python? Thanks in advance.
@ashleyhill5824
@ashleyhill5824 2 года назад
I think the new python is better the old one as good as it was was not a shooter without maintenance and replacement parts I know the new one is a shooter and will not require any of the upkeep of the old one if your shooting competitions and not just shooting 59 a year or two
@raymondwilliams6601
@raymondwilliams6601 4 года назад
Excelent review. I learned a lot. Thanks!
@ThomasRSmith-og7zo
@ThomasRSmith-og7zo 4 года назад
Great Review and Comparison. Since Colt is offering this new Model Python in 6 inch and 4 1/4 inch barrels do you think that the older Pythons will come down in price some?
@pauldeahl3980
@pauldeahl3980 4 года назад
John Deere X758 - I don’t think anyone is trying to take anything away from the older pythons but it’s a fair question based solely on supply and demand. The price of the older pythons may drop a little at first as the market stabilizes with some potential buyers of the old pythons perhaps going for a new one but all in all something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it and I think the demand for the older pythons will continue to stay steady and even increase.
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 4 года назад
No
@rayfeltz8477
@rayfeltz8477 4 года назад
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for.
@wc4201
@wc4201 2 года назад
Very good review. Like you, I have both. My classic is significantly better than my new one. For and finish and attention to detail is where the classic really shines. That being said if I didn’t have a Python I’d get the new one over the old mainly due to the price unless I was buying to collect in which case the classic is the only way to go.
@CD-lw6fl
@CD-lw6fl 3 года назад
Nice thorough comparison review.. well done. 😎👍
@viper2148
@viper2148 3 года назад
Nothing like seeing a ‘Smokey’ State Trooper in that rimmed hat carrying a blued Colt Python.
@norseman5041
@norseman5041 Год назад
Bought a Anaconda .44M couple of months ago. Have probably run close to 8-900 rounds through it and it function perfect. I have a Ruger Red Hawk and a S&W Mod 29-10 in the same caliber. The Ruger and the Anaconda is very much on pair on various measurements, but the Anacona have a much longer cylinder. The Smith is the lightweight her and all measurements on the Smith is ''skinnier'' than both the Ruger and Anaconda. The Ruger has ticker cylinder walls than both and have a beefier crown where the forcing cone is threaded into the frame. Not by much but slightly beefier than the colt. Love all these guns, the trigger on the S&W with a pre staged hammer is unbeatable. The Ruger has the heaviest hammer and trigger of all these. The hammer rub against the frame giving it a small gritty feeling staging the hammer with the thumb. No such thing on the Smith and the Colt. All guns are just as accurate as the others.
@ironhorse127
@ironhorse127 4 года назад
Apples and Oranges here. They new version is at best, a replica of the real deal.
@clint2211
@clint2211 2 года назад
The ratchet of the cylinder was also changed from the original. The problem with the original Python is if and when the timing of the cylinder wears there may not be any parts available from Colt let alone a skilled gunsmith or assembler to fit a new hand to rotate the cylinder which is not the same as the new 2020 Python.
@Coodeville
@Coodeville 3 года назад
Im dealing now with light primer strike in DA in my'95 Python
@TXGRunner
@TXGRunner 2 года назад
I agree with @SmallArmsSolutions, Colt really should have labeled the new one the Python II, or Mark I, or something to clarify the version difference.
@mercy1962
@mercy1962 2 года назад
Personally I disagree. Take a 1965 mustang , a 1973 mustang and a 2022 mustang, they are all still mustangs. You may think more highly of 1 vs the others but that doesn’t change their lineage.
@johnnylyme
@johnnylyme 4 года назад
I would like to see a comparison of these against the MKIII and MKV.
@theemrroboto
@theemrroboto 2 года назад
LOL, all of these people complaining about..."Not hand fitted!"... know nothing about manufacturing. It's a good thing! Get it through your brains.
@rkdev1
@rkdev1 4 года назад
Very well done video. I would really like to see someone open these guns up to compare the innards. I own three 6" Pythons and did my own trigger pull with a Wheeler digital based on six pull average and was surprised by the results. '84 Stainless, '79 blue, '76 Nickel was dbl action 7.14, 8.11 & 10.88 lbs. Single action 2.3, 3.14 & 2.09 lbs. I have posted a video of a friend shooting all three. I guess the results have to do with just how much the gun is shot. The Nickel seems to be the one with the lesser rounds coming in at a double action of over 10 lbs but the single action was just at 2 lbs. You may want to revisit the trigger pull after shooting and do multiple pulls for an average. Thanks again for sharing.
@rockisrockinjohnson6330
@rockisrockinjohnson6330 4 года назад
My 1967 Nickel 4" has a trigger in SA of 2 lb 6 oz and in DA it's 7 lbs 12 oz.
@Patriot-rising
@Patriot-rising 3 года назад
What are the differences right off the shelf. Well price for sure. Also the actual hand work done with the originals. There was a lot of fitting and honing on the early models. I still prefer my 80's Python. But if I were to purchase one today I would most likely purchase a new one. The vintage ones are in the thousands. Now that they have fixed the cylinder issue the new ones are pretty nice. I would purchase a 4 inch stainless. Or shall I say 4 1/4 inch to make it legal for Canada. They however are more expensive then vintage S&W revolvers. And Smith and Wesson makes some nice revolvers and their vintage pinned and recessed are very nice. Lucky for me I have what I want so I do not have to worry about it.
@prebaned
@prebaned 2 года назад
We shall see how the new CZ Pythons fair as collector items.
@williambates7467
@williambates7467 Год назад
FANTASTIC REVIEW! I'm definitely in the market for a Colt Python. Thank you!
@dps6198
@dps6198 4 года назад
A few new videos out there shows the Colt Python malfunctioning, in one video the trigger is squeezed but the cylinder doesn't turn in another video the trigger is squeezed the cylinder turns but the hammer doesn't move. Hickok45 and GoldenWebb both posted videos of malfunctioning pythons. That is a deal breaker. I decided to buy vintage. I bought a near pristine Python made in 1970. When problems arose with Smith & Wesson's new classic line and there were videos of the 586 having problems. That was a deal-breaker for me too. So I bought a 586 that was manufactured in 1980. It was a very good condition as well. I suspect the market will get tighter on the vintage Pythons as more problems arise and reported with the new pythons. It's already very difficult to find vintage Smith & Wesson revolvers.
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 4 года назад
The long gone engineers, gunsmiths and quality control testers will be turning in their graves at what their former, great companies are churning iut!
@TheBadassOne17
@TheBadassOne17 3 года назад
They seemed to have fixed the issues
@dorinkish9761
@dorinkish9761 Год назад
I have a 1978 Python Royal Blue 4” brand new in box (factory test fired only). I can’t bring myself to shoot it. Paid $368 for it in 1988.
@theresnonamesanymore
@theresnonamesanymore Год назад
Great video. Probably just saved me some money.
@boss350z5
@boss350z5 4 года назад
excellent review.
@jt31713
@jt31713 4 года назад
Great overview of the pythons , enjoyed the video
@DougDstudiocreations
@DougDstudiocreations 4 года назад
I disagree in the fact that anyone will ever want to collect anything made in this time from cars to guns but very good video.
@timothyjaques3964
@timothyjaques3964 2 года назад
I own two 6 inch new pythons I'm 64 so my kids will benefit if they sell them, I also today just found a 4inch early eighties python blued for sale for $1500 should I buy it or is the trimming issues with them not worth it.
@40belowful
@40belowful 4 года назад
no one seems too remember the 10 year warranty on the old pythons?? what is warranty on new pythons??
@r1ckgr1m3s8
@r1ckgr1m3s8 4 года назад
Good point my friend.
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 4 года назад
The warranty on the new one doesn't look to be worth the paper it's printed on!
@roboadvisor3598
@roboadvisor3598 3 года назад
Why don’t you think the new ones will also be offered with a blue finish?
@edwardweiszbeck1649
@edwardweiszbeck1649 3 года назад
Great comparison 👍
@InBuckshotWeTrust
@InBuckshotWeTrust 3 года назад
You briefly touched on the new internals/lock work on the new Python, does the redesign appear to correct the potential timing issues of the old Python? Obviously time will be the best indicator, but I did not know if the lock work redesign showed an obvious improvement or showed increased durability or strength compared to the old.
@isaiahmadrid6738
@isaiahmadrid6738 3 года назад
The biggest cause of timing issues of the original Python was wearing of the pawl. From what little I've seen of the new Python's internals, the pawl seems to function much the same way as the originals did, but the cylinder stop is now actuated by the trigger, rather than the rebound lever as on the originals, much more similar to the way that Smith & Wesson revolvers work in that area. The pawl also seems to have been beefed up in the areas of both the upper point and lower shelf, which should increase service life. While I would guess that the pawl is still meant to take most of the wear in the system when it comes to rapid double-action firing (which is generally the biggest cause of timing issues on the older guns), the cylinder stop will be easier to maintain and replace at the very least. I also imagine that Colt is using much stronger and higher quality materials to manufacture these critical components, given advances in metallurgy. That alone should help to increase the service life of these components.
@InBuckshotWeTrust
@InBuckshotWeTrust 3 года назад
@@isaiahmadrid6738 good to know, thank you for the information.
@ericohop5704
@ericohop5704 4 года назад
Hammer trigger are made in small parts there .they outsource, most of the parts, and only make @30 percent in house,
@CoryHobbs2178
@CoryHobbs2178 4 года назад
Pythons are cool as hell but I'm more of a Smith guy on revolvers
@roberttaylor6030
@roberttaylor6030 4 года назад
I'm a a Colt / Smith / Ruger, and yes I've even got a couple of Taurus and Rossi revolvers. My Smith 686+ and my 1976 blue Python are my favorites though. The 686+ has had some work done and it's my best for double action shooting.
@kongxiong6005
@kongxiong6005 4 года назад
going to purchase my first revolver...any opinions on what i should get?? Considering Ruger 10mm 4in, SW 586, King cobra Target 2020, or wait after the recall on the pythons??
@jamestucker7513
@jamestucker7513 4 года назад
kong xiong it depends on what you want to do with it. The Smith has a shorter trigger than Ruger. Ruger will handle overcharged heavy loads better. I don’t own the colt but sounds like a fine gun. If you want fast, go with smith. Smith is easy to tune.
@CharlesSmith-ye3fv
@CharlesSmith-ye3fv 2 года назад
I’ll take a GP 100 Colt is a good gun but a GP I think a little bit
@ericohop5704
@ericohop5704 4 года назад
Worked there for@6 years
@maverickfox4102
@maverickfox4102 4 года назад
Hopefully Colt will address the issues on the Python just like Pietro Beretta did with the M9 back when it was in it's early production.
@mikalsampson9577
@mikalsampson9577 2 года назад
Beretta was garbage.
@gerardcouture4779
@gerardcouture4779 4 года назад
You did an excellent job in the overview of this . but I am very disappointed in Colts production and release of this weapon. When you pull the trigger on a revolver it should fire and it should turn the cylinder! Right now, you're comparing a Rolls-Royce and a Ford Pinto. Colt needs to go back and rethink putting the python name on this weapon
@MrWmeyer
@MrWmeyer 4 года назад
Do you think they will be releasing a blued version?
@johndaugherty4127
@johndaugherty4127 4 года назад
In 1983 I asked my brother-in-law if he had a pistol he could sell me. He said he had a Colt Python or a Beretta. $300 for whichever one I wanted. I passed. 😒
@Furby733
@Furby733 2 года назад
Hi been a fan of your channel for awhile was wondering if you can give me an idea of what my colt python mite be worth I know you can be more accurate if you saw it but I’m just looking to see what it mite be worth it was made in 1977 I got it from the original owner it’s immaculate condition not scratch on the gun at all looks like it was never fired and I mean not a scratch not even in the cylinder or on the cylinder from rotation all original even the grips the finish looks like blue chrome like I said was wondering what it mite be worth thanks for your time
@vabbe71
@vabbe71 3 года назад
why not saying old and new??? BTW does the new version sell with a 4" barrel as well?
@44357514
@44357514 4 года назад
I know they were recalled soon after the release in January for having Cylinder Timing Problems where the cylinder would not turn. They also had a rough barrel end, Since then I have been waiting for them to be re-released so that I could order one and purchase one. Does anyone know where I can get one? It is now in the beginning of July 2020.
@TheBadassOne17
@TheBadassOne17 3 года назад
You still looking?
@danmoore415
@danmoore415 2 года назад
How much are they running?
@9ZERO6
@9ZERO6 4 года назад
Very well put together video, and one of the best pistol reviews I have seen to date. Fantastic. I have zero Colt firearms personally, and the romance and rarity of the vintage Colt Python revolvers are the main attraction imo, and this has none of that. But, to each their own. I would just save up some cash for the real deal, and cry later when I cannot afford Taco Bell.
@proguninc4080
@proguninc4080 4 года назад
Because the new Python's are out, do you think the price on the older Python's will go down slightly, or it won't affect it at all?
@proguninc4080
@proguninc4080 4 года назад
@Harald B.... So you're calling the new Python's "junk?"
@billyjordan174
@billyjordan174 2 года назад
Prices on the Classic won’t suffer and the new version will gain value as they age and boom like the originals did when or if their production runs stops.
@legalsolutions07
@legalsolutions07 4 года назад
Good review, but you dismiss a potential cylinder issue as a growing pain, but if you are one of the unfortunate buyers who's experiencing a cylinder that won't turn, won't fire or a cylinder that jams closed, it's a very big deal on a $1500 gun. The Colt Python has always been known for its butter smooth trigger and action, impeccable craftsmanship, beautiful blued finish and a tack driver. The new $1500 Python is getting off the ground as having poor craftsmanship and quality control, cylinders that sometimes don't turn and a light firing pin. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 4 года назад
I appreciate the comment. The cylinder issue is a growing pain... Yes, it is unfortunate that the early buyers of this product will be inconvenienced for a few weeks while Colt completes their free warranty service... I would be frustrated too. But when I do a review, I need to focus on the product as a whole and not just a launch problem. A year or two from now when these Pythons are symptom free (and I believe they will be) my review will still need to be relevant. If I focused on the cylinder issue (which I am sure will be fixed in future units) then all I would get in the comment section is “Colt fixed the problem, get over it”. Don’t believe me? Go look at the comment section of any early Sig P365 video where the reviewer obsesses over the firing pin drag issue.. Sig had a terrible launch on the P365, which included thousands of units needing repair and an entire year gap in production for the issue to be resolved. Today, the P365 is regarded as one of the best CC options on the market and it is a best seller in my store. It is my belief that a year from now, this wont be an issue and I’ll want future buyers of the product to be able to come to this video and receive a substantive comparison instead of me harping on a launch issue that has long since been resolved. If in a year this is still an issue on newly manufactured Pythons, then I will make another video warning consumers to stay away. Thanks again for watching and for the comment!
@legalsolutions07
@legalsolutions07 4 года назад
@@MarksmanTV I see your point and you make a valid argument to simply point out issues without condemning the revolver all together. I sure hope Colt fixes the problem and informs the public what they did to fix these problems. I'd sure like to buy a blued 4 1/4" if Colt ever releases one.
@rockisrockinjohnson6330
@rockisrockinjohnson6330 4 года назад
@@legalsolutions07 Colt has released a youtube video talking about these problems including the cylinder not turning, light hits on some ammo brands, and some weapons shipped with machine marks on the barrel crown. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vSBuhMC5JLA.html&feature=emb_logo
@blindboyjonny
@blindboyjonny 4 года назад
Comparing a 2020 python to the original is like comparing a 1985 mustang 2 to a 1965 Mustang fastback. A Mustang is a Mustang, right?
@billystephens9255
@billystephens9255 8 месяцев назад
The problem is theirs alot of people that has way to much money in thier colt pythons as a investment well the 2020 colt python killed alot of the value in the older one I keep hearing hand fitting thats useless compared to the machining today I own both older one and a new one but I'm a realist the new one is a way better gun and those who try to protect thier investment to bad they had a little problem with a screw and I herd the complaint of the adjustable rear sight easy fix call colt they will fix it no questions ask nothin compared to the problems of the older ones also by the way colt came out with a 2024 blued python which I have seen one absolutely beautiful gun I'm sure thier will be some colt drama over this one liked your video thanks.
@davidjenkins6634
@davidjenkins6634 4 года назад
BRAVO!!! Well done!!!
@budjohnson2990
@budjohnson2990 2 года назад
that old python can't handle .357 mag for very long ...the new one can
@bigjohnson9561
@bigjohnson9561 3 года назад
These guns have sold for over $500-$700 over retail. If you can find one at the MSRP, I'd say buy it.
@iceman5006
@iceman5006 2 года назад
Bought mine for 1575.00 excellent fit and finish trigger is smooth gun is awesome.
@vicsage83
@vicsage83 3 года назад
Great review
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