2020 Honda Civic Si Sedan - POV Driving Impressions 

Right?! Respect ✊

TheTopher Us Honda valets work hard😂

Because dealership car valet guy spilt a latte drink in it yesterday driving it to Starbucks . Facts

I’m a detailer and I do the same but diagonally, looks better

i notice that extra attention to detail on the black matts to, as a former detailer.

I like POV. Don't like other reviews always showing their faces while driving.

@Dale Macarena uhh

I like Pov provided they show handwork with the gear knob

It's only on when you put it sport mode ,and it also helps with shifting

Jorge Zavala how does fake engine noise help with shifting?

@@blgarage9519 I think I lost a few brain cells reading that... Did you?

EminentLine quite a few, yes.

@@EminentLine Yeah, of course it helps to hear the engines RPM's when shifting to time clutch/accelerator pedal inputs. Especially when rev matching.

Meanwhile on my 04 mazda...

@@CrimsonSlayer7 from a '04 focus this looks like a spaceship xD

Anything without a 14inch screen is inferior

Is boring.

Meanwhile in a 2015 Dacia Logan MCV...The interior on that thinng is so damn plain!

Michael Grisafi Yeah, I know... You can disable it by going behind the glovebox and unplugging the silver module.

@@TommyBlazeHD oh I'm good bud. I have a 2019 Civic type-r. But good tip for the people out there

love it amirite x'ddddd

Agreed, but they're doing it because these little turbo 4s sound like trash as is. NA K series sounded great so there was no need to add anything in the old Si's.

The sound is added to help you hear the sound of when to shift when it's in sport mode

I agree with you but let me say this. I am shopping for a new car and I want it to be manual. My problem is finding something within 150 miles of me to choose from. The only two cars near me with a manual that is offered is a Civic and a VW GTI. No Hyundai, no Kia, no Toyota, no Genesis, etc... We can't buy them if they are not available on dealer lots. I don't even know if dealers will order you one anymore but would you order one without test driving one first?

@@t.k.morris naah man of course i won't buy any of these without doing a test drive 😂

@@t.k.morris Hyundai Velosters have manual transmissions available. The Veloster N is amazing.

@@t.k.morris If you can find them, the Forte GT Manual is an excellent car and worth a test drive. Damn things are unicorns, though.

Agree 100% I'm loving my Forte GT 6 sp. Would have seriously considered the Si if one were available.

Rather get a accord 2.0T ,type R killer with a few mods,people are running 12.6 -12.7 1/4 with type r turbo swapp etc

report that dealer..

Rarity? Lol there’s so many unsold si’s in Texas. A type r maybe but even then adding on a “rarity” fee is stupid

Honestly at this point I wouldn't even bother with an SI when the new BRZ/86 is around the corner.

1 Year later... these cars are still hard to find in Ontario.. I just scooped same one as this video.. $30,900 with 5000km on it... there was only 1 other option.. 1 hour away... a 2018 black with 30,000km and was 26,999... I think i got the better deal. Pick it up tomorrow.. CANT WAIT

He's one of the few car dealership dudes I'll watch.

Joe Raiti is hilarious. Love the zonks lol. Plus where do we keep the twinkies and paydays in this Si???

But what about the extra cabin space for your twinkies

Did you get it? If so, were the issues as easy as you thought to take care of?

Apparently the SI has issues with the fuel pump too not delivering gas and ends up breaking

@@Clicn. I actually ended up finding a Veloster N for about the same price and have been very happy with that purchase since September or so.

@@Polarzz thats when you upgrade to a newer aftermarket pump.. or use the warranty.. either way your winning with a boosted engine

I daily an si coupe and love it

Joe Spittle they still going to buy one I bet.

It's weird it bothers u so much what people do with their own car

@@jamesc9897 it's weird you find it weird that he gave his opinion and you didn't like it 😅 stf^

@@IrishSoldier027 Couldn't have said it better myself

So that everyone elses ears on the road don’t bleed.

i'm thinking of buying this car. will i be able to connect my laptop to this HDMI rear port?

@@DavidZangy yes if you able to find the right size cable

@@Latitube ;)

David Zangy thats the best port

🤣

@@williamgomez5876 one time I thought my car was in neutral so I casually let off the clutch...it wasn't in neutral. so never again do I just assume. even if I just put it in neutral, and I know I did, I still check it. what if it's not :O

What year model did you get? And have you owned one before or why did you choose it?

T.K. Morris I bought. 2018 GTI S in 2019. It was a leftover. I’ve always like the GTI look. I didn’t know the 2018 S lacked a physical limited slip differential. But at my age I’m not going to be taking SCCA Nationals by storm. Love the GTI and the hatchback format. If the SI still had a hatch I’d probably consider it again.

We NEED Hatchback

@@eugenef0zzy WE NEED A TWO DOOR HATCH (we know that''ll never happen again in America though)

@@AlphaJDM we can only wish, the ep3 would be good platform to build off.

@@AlphaJDM at least you can get a civic coupe in the states, honda doesnt see a market for a 2door in europe.

wish their was a coupe type r

I can’t get over the HDMI port😂😂😂

Its because the 2020's have fake engine noises coming into the cabin

@@itsmaki7203 it's like a budget golf GTI. I'd still have a GTI over this because it looks so nice

@@M_773 true but reliability and resale and lower cost modding, mpg, standard equipment, price, maintenace, civic si all day.

@@Tigerex966 exactly what I said... It's a budget version, if you have the money it's GTI all day.

I have a question how much you gotta be paying at the month

I heard somewhere that you could actually disable the piped in engine sound through the settings in the infotainment. And if you're not opposed to doing a quick tune with your car, that could also get rid of the rev hang as well.

I had a 2020 Si Coupe for about 2 and a half years and I also live in Canada. I found it awesome in the winter. Clutch was slipping and the rev hang was driving me nuts though so I got rid of it. I preferred driving that car in the winter. I found it drove better in the winter. You didn't feel the jerks from the rev hang as much if the road was covered in snow.

My experience too. Though not the longevity; I've only had mine a month.

The GTIs are fairly reliable when they have a manual, auto not so much

JEdmund27 I don't drive mine in the winter, i did the first year, but bought a winter beater so I don't drive it in the salt and snow anymore.. not that it wasn't good in the snow, it was fine, actually did great.. but i love that car and don't want it to melt like everything metal in the rust belt.. that said it's been totally reliable.. if you want yours to last just make sure you change the oil every 5k miles.. the mile interval at 10k is way too long.. these high strung motors need clean oil that oil cooled turbo will be far more expensive to replace in the long run than the oil changes..

Eye Dunno i only drive stick in a newer car, it's probably my last new car, but yeah it's definitely a stick. The clutch in the GTI is actually pretty weak so i expect that I'll get 60-100k out of it before i have to replace it.. i got 200k out of one in a corolla and nearly 350k out of one in a Previa..

@@shartingfish5761 Good to know, thanks!

Is it a good car to learn manual?

@@willythewhale2235 If driven manual for a very long time, so I can't give you a good answer. But many reviewers I've heard have said yes.

@@willythewhale2235 this was my first manual vehicle and it was a great and easy way of learning the skill. Took me about 2 weeks to get the hang of it.

the civic needs the accord vtec 2.0 liter, the accord needs the civic's lsd. this is the first time the accord has no engines not borrowed from the civic, and slower ones too, exceot hybrid. the accord needs it's own engine again.

I'm at 8.5k miles right now in my 2019 and I've been thinking about solving the rev-hang with ktuner, but I don't want to void the 3yr/36k warranty. When did you get Ktuner? Did you wish you got it sooner?

​@@mcJJP A tune may only void warranty on stuff that breaks directly related to the tune. Actually the powertrain warranty is 5yr/60k. My thought then was: If I don't fix the rev-hang, I may get rid of the car well before that warranty expires. It's that annoying to me. I did it at around 21k miles, and no problem so far. I always baby my car when I'm not pushing it.

It's one plug and play tune away from no hang . It is annoying though .

For the 2020 model, I would have easily taken an MPG hit if they completely eliminated the rev hang, rather than simply revising the gearing a little. Acceleration in manual cars with rev hang is a pain in daily driving, with tuning being your only option. I have a 2018 WRX that has rev hang going into 2nd gear, and it’s really annoying in traffic but I don’t want to tune it yet due to my warranty.

@@kevinnorris6558 Had a 2017 Wrx Premium and I went the same route as you, I was so close to just buying a access port, Subaru killed the drivability with it.

Own one, can confirm the rev hang is ridiculous. Shift from first two second jerks unless you take 2-2.5 seconds to shift slowly. It’s like it hates being driven hard. Yes, it’s a tune away but at that point you’re spending another 500

ColeWorldNoSandwich It’s so cumbersome in traffic and to top it off, I’m the one holding back traffic behind me while Sentra’s and Camry’s zip past me. The first manual I’ve ever driven was a 5-speed manual Honda Accord and it was SO SMOOTH in traffic and daily driving, and didn’t have bs rev hang. Honda makes some really great stick shifts but they’ve chosen to ruin that in the past couple years.

Patty Boi thankfully it can be turned off

@@AmazingPoultry gotcha, I figured that would be the case for sure

@@AmazingPoultry How?

T.K. Morris in the infotainment, go to settings > vehicle > meter setup > shift up alarm

nah all they need to do is offer this set up with no rev hang from the factory.

They need to bring back the S2000.

@@doubledown8229 trust me if they bring back the s2000, a few things will happen. Either it will be really heavy, due to the features people nag manufacturers to add in and safety regulations. The engine will never have the character of the older engine, the price tag will be in the high 50k bracket .

Nope this si is what makes honda ...well honda. This car is amazing on the track and is affordable. It beats the gti, miata, brz, ford focus st on the track. Performance and tuneability is what they were built for and this car improves that by a huge milestone.

Did you get one

Recommend a GTI SE instead. Dont pay MSRP.

@@markymark535 Hi, no I think I'll actually hold onto my 19 STI for now after seeing this review. I love it to death, but it just gets such poor gas mileage. Other than that it's perfect, minus a bit of road noise and a bumpy ride which doesn't bother me. Maybe I'll wait for the 21 WRX if it gets redesigned. SI looks great, but that beeping at redline seems really annoying.

Mike beep can be turned off. It’s super annoying lol.

@@affinity3281 Do you own a GTI? Have you driven an SI?

Gabriel Song, I feel the 2019 is the sweet spot. Also really don’t care for the black wheels.

Tbh I own a 2019 and was super salty about how the 2020 had led headlights and updated interior and nicer looking wheels. Now that I see how it has that fake sound and all that Honda sensing stuff no one in an si or type r would want, I’m actually happy my car is free of that. I just switched the halogen bulbs on my headlights to LED and they are much brighter. Only thing these cars need is to eliminate rev hang without having to tune them

@@ValkenDnB Does the 2019 have rev hang too?

@@t.k.morris unfortunately it does. you have to flash it with a tune to remove it.

@@ValkenDnB Thanks. Can you post a link to the headlight bulbs you bought?

It is hard to understand this from Honda. I know the Sport Touring hatchback has a spare and it has a center exhaust. I actually think the S/T exhaust looks better but why would they not give the spare tire to us on a SI and make the exhaust fit as needed? I am on the fence about which one I may want to buy. I want a manual no matter what else!

Take the car to the track and you'll see why many of us really love it

You made the right choice. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and I regretted buying it because of the rev hang. Made me hate the car. I ended up getting rid of it a few weeks ago and the rev hang is half of the reason i got rid of it. Drove me nuts. Had I noticed it during the test drive, I wouldn't have bought it. I honestly have no idea how I didn't notice it during the test drive because it's very noticeable when you're driving the car.

And NO SPARE tire! That really pisses me off!

T.K. Morris wow. Didn’t know that. Forte GT comes with that and a nice sounding exhaust 🤙🏾

Least favorite thing in my 8th gen. However a quick tune fixes it

I believe it’s for emissions.. surely tunable 👍🏽

I agree. It's half of the reason I got rid of my 2020 Si Coupe. I wanted to love the car, I truly did but I couldn't because of the rev hang. It drove me nuts.

The Fett Man Exactly!!!!!

Totally agree. Hate these black wheels.

J Fazzuoli, how’s your mileage on that. Watched his video on that Accord and loved the sound.

never knew the 2.0T accord came in manual

You mean a type r?

Yo-yo K tuner

@@macdiddles7000 we shouldn't have to put a tune on it if these these can come tuned from the factory correctly... There's Eco, Normal, and Sport... Leave rev hang out for Sport.

Yo-yo you wouldn’t be able too the EPA emissions test uses every mode for testing

JAA my wife and two youngest boys were in the car at the time, air bags did their job👍. My wife had a sore wrist and some friction burns on her arm from the airbags and my youngest son (11at the time) was shaken up pretty badly but everyone was fine.

JAA yes it is! It all worked out very well, she is driving her Type R now and VERY happy with it👍 as am I whenever I manage to pry it away from her😂

So do you use the type R as a family sedan?

T.K. Morris yep. My wife is a high school teacher, she uses it as her daily driver. We also have gone on the occasional road trip. She loves the car, absolutely adores it. She suffered through the mini-van/SUV years when our kids were younger. When it came time to replace her Honda Pilot she wanted something fun, she really wanted a Type R, but they were hard to find and at a premium over MSRP when we first started looking. Her short list was a Golf R, GTI, and the Type R. I got her to look at an Audi RS3 but she wasn’t convinced it was worth the $65k vs other options. When she test drove the Si, she loved it, particularly how cheap it was👍. So we bought it and loved it, but when it was totaled by the insurance company, We found a new Type R at a dealer not too far away. The car is really very amazing, it really is. The only changes we have made are 18” Enkei wheels and PS4’s and a Delrin shift knob (the OEM knob gets super hot in the sun!).

So an accord?

No way not the 10at

in a straight line. the manual is way more fun.

Tigerex966 That’s truth, but if you want a good manual buy the Type R, its way better than the Si

That's a good point, but it sounds awfully artificial. I think a quiet natural engine would sound better than fake engine noise.

Aznbooy i think the best fix is just make the exhaust variable and simple. Open and closed. No need to pump in sound

Mike H I didn’t think of that. That sounds like the best way to do it.

Cam J but then you lose factory warranty 😔👎

MugenK20 I’m a Honda tech and have done plenty of warranty work on cars that have been tuned

Cody Allen I have a 2011 8th gen with an intake and exhaust, not sure if I want to ever get a different car I love the 8th gen!

I did a k24a2 swap and this beats all newer Honda's except the type r power wise. I fully built it myself k24/k20 Frank built best NA bang for the buck all motor for the money.

Sock Malone suuuuuure.....

@@driveshift ^ He lost me at "n/a built and best bang for the buck" lol.

@@Hockey4Days I got J35 TB sk2 alpha and sk2 full 3 inch stage 1 clutch 9lb flywheel and intake and flashpro.

SunnyD88 the coupe rear looks worse

Yea both of them are horrible looking. I don't like the proportions in general to be honest.

Crazy how you say that haha, but majority still prefer the dimensions of the sedan including myself. The coupe other generations ago were definitely more favorable

Roberto Brito Falero don’t focus on what u dislike focus on what you love.

coolstory bro

Chill ese

Friend of mine has a type r. It’s an entirely different car.

Lol come one bro nobody including yourself believes that crap

Did you get? Please give an update.

@@t.k.morris yessir. will be putting out content on the channel soon 🤘😎.

Driven one of the newer Subarus yet? The rev hang on my '17 is horrid, lol. Worse than this one I think.

Like you said, a Hondata or K-Pro tuner and a good tune would fix that. Most of us Honda enthusiasts have one.

The absurdly light clutch feel was the main reason I didn't buy one of these a year ago. Otherwise they're really great (rev hang aside too).

spooksmagee honestly i forgot to specify light clutch in the sense of it cannot take much more power than stock unfortunately. it’ll start slipping quick

@@kennetha.1937 ive heard the same thing...im assuming they all did this for the emissions and since both cars are at a low cost to buy.

it is

What suspension did you end up getting? Curious as to what's out there for the 2020 versions whether it's coils or springs

Michael Matuszak I went with Eibach Sportline Springs just so I can keep the Active Dampening System for now. It rides really well