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2020 VS 2021 Supra: Which Makes More Power TUNED? 

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2020 GR Supra owners weren't thrilled when Toyota gave the 2021 model a 47hp bump in the form of an improved engine just a year after launch. And while the 2021 outperforms the 2020 in showroom stock trim, what happens when each get the same upgrades and calibration? In that case, the choice is not so clear. SPOILER: one of them gained 145hp on 93 octane...
In this video, we put upgraded 2020 and 2021 GR Supras head-to-head! Both are equipped with our Stage-3 package, both calibrated by Vlad via EcuTek, both tested on the same dyno, and both completed just days apart with similar conditions. It's the ultimate 2-port versus 6-port engine comparison!
Stage-3 package contents for both 2020 and tunable 2021 models below:
• MST Performance Auto Parts air-intake system
• Optional MST Performance Auto Parts turbocharger inlet
• Extreme Turbo Systems down-pipe with EPA compliant GESi high-flow catalytic converter
• Optional AMS Performance 3.00" charge pipe
• Calibration via EcuTek Technologies Ltd
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Комментарии : 198   
@faraz.f22
@faraz.f22 2 года назад
The fact that they fit all this info into 6 minutes without going too fast or skipping anything is actually very under appreciated. Thank u lol.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
We appreciate the words! Glad you enjoyed the video! More to come like this.
@CRVB7
@CRVB7 2 года назад
Just like the good old days when a 10 min YT video was considered long. Concise and straight to the point.
@brokenhalo.728
@brokenhalo.728 2 года назад
Non of that “before we get started. This video is provided by…..don’t forget to subscribe”. Help me.
@marcdelong2230
@marcdelong2230 2 года назад
Been waiting for a video like this, thanks guys!!
@bikotheanimator6169
@bikotheanimator6169 2 года назад
Excellent presentation. This is precisely what I was searching for. Not that I know much about cars. I have been learning since 2020 during quarantine days. ^___^
@Bad_1nfluence
@Bad_1nfluence 2 года назад
Information was presented perfectly. Well done, thank you.
@sicitydonmo3016
@sicitydonmo3016 2 года назад
superb video, packed to the best
@HSTL_Team
@HSTL_Team 2 года назад
This was a super informative video. Got my like, subscribe and share. Id like to see what happens after more upgrades
@TheIcybus
@TheIcybus 2 года назад
Thank you! I’ve been considering the mk5 but it’s been so hard to find a thorough comparison. Excellent video and to the point ✨
@kookiedabear
@kookiedabear 2 года назад
@NationalSpeedInc - Fantastic job with this video - thorough, succinct, and unbiased. You have a new subscriber.
@EastCoastMafia_NY
@EastCoastMafia_NY 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! I’m looking to getting a 2020 Supra in the near future :D
@vinhgeta
@vinhgeta 2 года назад
Awesome video!
@AntFragale
@AntFragale Год назад
I can appreciate this video. Doesn’t drag out the info, is very informative, and targets a relatable question that’s interesting. And I don’t even own or care about the Supra haha. Good job guys.
@bmwm333e92
@bmwm333e92 8 месяцев назад
best video showing the differences of A90 and A91 on RU-vid, lots of info in such a short video, great work❤
@keilder8543
@keilder8543 2 года назад
Great video, apples to apples comparison, and concise. Even the best videos lose points when they run too long - this one was perfect 👌.
@heatran123
@heatran123 2 года назад
Fantastic video!
@VictorPitstop
@VictorPitstop 2 года назад
LOVE that hard data! Thank you for this!!
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Glad you liked it, Victor! More videos like this to come.
@maxfuerst1980
@maxfuerst1980 2 года назад
This is the best video I've seen regarding modifying the a90 vs a91. Quikc and simple. Thank you for this content!
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
Yupp
@DresRacingChannel
@DresRacingChannel Год назад
love the info im happy i went with the 2020 model as far as tunability
@highboost1454
@highboost1454 Год назад
What an awesome vid. Turbo upgrade seems to be a must for 2021 and up.
@thelastsignature
@thelastsignature 2 месяца назад
Wonderful track selection
@Kvs1920
@Kvs1920 2 года назад
Great video
@aisu8481
@aisu8481 2 года назад
Sounds to me like the 21 may only be more valuable for heat soak prevention. Which for a track guy could be significant
@darkskull5790
@darkskull5790 2 года назад
Very nice video thanks
@MilanrdVspec
@MilanrdVspec 5 месяцев назад
Best comparison video 😊
@polywoggins
@polywoggins 11 месяцев назад
Nice video, well done...
@Benjammin43
@Benjammin43 2 года назад
I got my car tuned here back in like 2017. still by far my favorite tuner i’ve ever dealt with in the country. if the supras come with a 6 speed like they say they’re gonna I might pick one up and I know exactly where i’ll take it to tune.
@andrewfranco4826
@andrewfranco4826 2 месяца назад
Perfect video
@Ali_Mansour_Editor
@Ali_Mansour_Editor 2 года назад
Great video! I don’t even own one of these cars, but I feel like I learned a lot!
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Glad you liked it, Ali!
@bikotheanimator6169
@bikotheanimator6169 2 года назад
Indeed. I don't own any expensive cars haha
@andrewwhite9698
@andrewwhite9698 2 года назад
Perfect video. 10/10
@Powaup
@Powaup Год назад
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more apples to apples dyno comparison. Very well done here
@jameskelsey3759
@jameskelsey3759 Год назад
Glad I found this video. I went and drove a 2020 this morning and am excited to know that if I get it, I can do what I want and make up for not spending an extra 10 grand or so to get a slightly "better" one. Because daammmmnnn that was fun.
@rafiulrasheen4738
@rafiulrasheen4738 Год назад
Cool Vid! How do yall think it would perform with some bolt ons like catless downpipes,intake, and e85? These cars are also lightweight with great gearboxes so it must feel like a rocket.
@65sohc
@65sohc 2 года назад
I was glad to hear you mention flex fuel toward the end. I am running e50 which opens up another level of tuning and 50+ hp.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Yep! We just did a fuel comparison video on this exact 2020. Check out the results! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wymqS3DjBnw.html
@TheGnarTube
@TheGnarTube 22 дня назад
There's a large amount of differences in the engines between 2020 and 2021. Specifically: Fuel system upgraded to 350bar injection pressure, cylinder head with integrated exhaust manifold, changes to the turbo, split cooling, coolant pump with integrated pressure release, new heat management module with split cooling valve, and changes to the chain drive.
@amincherfoune1402
@amincherfoune1402 2 года назад
that was great!
@Deighvid.
@Deighvid. 2 года назад
Cool video! Super interesting and loved seeing my same color 2021 haha
@johnmichaelazize6425
@johnmichaelazize6425 Год назад
Where did you purchased the strut bar, Front Bumper Lip Spoiler with the red accent and the Rear Diffuser with the Red accent? Excellent video!! I'm a disabled veteran interested in these parts. Thank you for your time.
@CullyColantino
@CullyColantino Год назад
This video solved all of my problems
@401nate2
@401nate2 5 месяцев назад
Hey guys, great comparison video! Would have been great to see the psi graph overlayed before and after for each model year as well. The higher CR leads me to believe that with a higher target, it could likely achieve it quicker resulting in the slight bump in low end response seen. What was the target PSI for both cars post tune?
@doorkicker8507
@doorkicker8507 2 года назад
Some make even more. My 2020 with same stuff yours had. Plus a high flow AWE exhaust made 493 to the wheels. Also on a hot 🥵 muggy day in July.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Not bad! That's super strong for 93 octane.
@joepoyda1812
@joepoyda1812 2 года назад
It's really interesting to see the US has such differences in the power output of the model years, I have a 2019 A90 Supra in the UK and stock that put down 372.1bhp on dyno. From what I've seen on forums it seems that's pretty much the norm for us in the UK.
@agurung03
@agurung03 2 года назад
probably because uk and eu spec supras are fitted with an extra OPF filter for emissions on top of the catalytic converter in the downpipe. But stage one tune sorts that out you can get 410-420 whp (450-475bhp) from just a tune ..
@thedeadpoet000
@thedeadpoet000 2 года назад
Curious as to what octane fuel is recommended for UK Supras? I ask bc in general I think EU fuel is higher octane than US fuel.
@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2
@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2 Год назад
@@thedeadpoet000 Octane ratings in EU and US are different. 93 octane or Super in US is equivalent to 98 in EU, which is also Super in EU. So the fuels are the same. Now some states in the US, mostly in the west coast(california etc) only have 91 available.
@Foiiiii1
@Foiiiii1 Год назад
I live in Japan and most 2020 Supras are easily putting down 370-380hp at the crank. I think it's to do with the octane rate where premium fuel is above 98 here whereas in the US it's lower. I remember Jason Cammisa mentioning something about the US having lower quality fuel so that might play a role in the hp difference.
@imperatormouse2735
@imperatormouse2735 Год назад
Good comparison. The cylinder head integrated manifold design leads to an overall better thermal efficiency resulting in a slightly better fuel efficiency for the 2-port version (24 mpg) vs 6-port version (23 mpg). This is probably the reason why the B58 is only available as the C version in Europe because fuel efficiency is much more important to the OEMs there. Not sure what role the GPF plays in this category but towards higher power outputs it becomes more and more the bottle neck. Would you agree that the 6-port version is more robust than 2-port in terms of durability under same conditions?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
For everyone asking if the post-June 2020 ECUs have been unlocked yet, the answer is no, BUT there is a solution: cloning. In short, your ECU must be sent to FemtoEVO in Russia, where it is cloned into a tuneable pre-June 2020 ECU. From there, the ECU plugs in, and is tunable just like any pre-June 2020 ECU. The service isn't cheap, but in terms of horsepower-to-dollar ratio, it's still a great deal!
@akpowerlifting
@akpowerlifting Год назад
Thank you for this information
@tmbmvp
@tmbmvp 5 месяцев назад
Any guess on how flex fuel would change the results? I would love to be able to save the couple of thousand and go with the 2020 if the hp is that close!
@BjornFSE
@BjornFSE 2 года назад
love it
@wernermeyer6635
@wernermeyer6635 2 года назад
Does somebody know how to set the toyota Hilux into dyno mode?
@BillyBobTheCattleFarmer
@BillyBobTheCattleFarmer 2 года назад
Have ya'll dynoed the 2.0T version of this yet? Curious to see what that 4banger would put down.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
The B48 cars typically break the 300whp mark with the same modifications. Not bad, all considered!
@kent4786
@kent4786 Год назад
How much does this type of tune cost .. ?? I’m thinking of getting the 2.0T
@TronB58
@TronB58 Год назад
@@NationalSpeedInc unless you get the F44 M235i with the B48. It actually dynos 280-290 whp stock and my development car was pushing over 370 whp with a downpipe and e30 tune only. The revised B48 in the mini GP and M235 has all the forged internals from the B58. It even has S58 injectors. Now if you're referring to the 2.0 supra or the lower trim bmws, then yes you are correct..
@bman1668
@bman1668 2 года назад
I feel like 2021 will make more power after 800-900whp , down low hp 2020 2021 same but highly modified I think 2021 will be better choice .
@omranmkv
@omranmkv 2 года назад
I think so, but I'm pretty sure it won't be noticeable difference that the driver can feel even if we say 850hp and 800hp. Anything in these modern cars after the 600whp is crazy and stupidly scary for streets pulls, most people just speak they didn't experience this
@just.a.simplejoe
@just.a.simplejoe 2 года назад
@NationalSpeedInc, appreciate the insight to the A91 Supra and considering getting this tune down the road but 2 questions.... 1. If my 21 supra got that type of safe bump in power what could be the recommended upping of tire sizes to help put that power down in autocross? 2. Is it fine if the customer already has their own intake (such as an ams/injen closed box) when doing the tunable packages? Thanks for the input and seriously great video!
@angrycar
@angrycar 2 года назад
I'd say absolutely yes get bigger tires. If they aren't daily tires get a set of Cup 2's, the biggest you can afford and fit. I'm sure they'll accommodate you if you have your own intake. This spring I'm going to drive down to VA with all my own parts and have them install the parts and tune the car.
@just.a.simplejoe
@just.a.simplejoe 2 года назад
@@angrycar Hey thanks for chimming in. Yea that sounds like a great plan and I'd do something similar when the time comes! What size tires would you think for a Supra at about 430-450hp?
@angrycar
@angrycar 2 года назад
@@just.a.simplejoe On the stock rims, I believe the front max would be 275/35ZR19 and the rear would be 295 or 305/35ZR19. Hard to find a 305 but they do have Cup-2's in that size, otherwise if you stayed with the OEM tire, it's a really good tire, you'll probably only find 295. Cup-2's can be sketchy in the rain, so for daily might not be good, but for track they are sticky tires. If you get aftermarket rims it depends on rim size and width and offset.
@just.a.simplejoe
@just.a.simplejoe 2 года назад
@@angrycar Thanks for the feedback, seriously needed the help. Don't want to waste money where I don't need too lol. Good luck with your build and would watch your videos if you do any!
@angrycar
@angrycar 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. I picked up my 2020 Supra 3.0 premium for 8K less than a 2021. Kept telling my friends, who thought I should've got the 2021, that once it was tuned with the typical bolt on parts the two aren't going to be much different. This video proves it. And since, IMHO, the 2020 is more playful and tail happy, with a more usable power band, my choice is still the 2020 if you're just doing the typical bolt on's. If you want a high hp supra then the 2021+ is probably the better option.
@hectorarcaya2424
@hectorarcaya2424 2 года назад
How much you pay for it ? Im looking for a 3.0 premium and i wanna knw how much will be a good deal
@angrycar
@angrycar 2 года назад
@@hectorarcaya2424 I bought my 2020 3.0 premium brand new in July of 2020. It sat on the lot for 9 months before I bought it. It was listed for $56,285. The dealer marked it down $4,285 and Toyota had a special $3,500 instant rebate deal going, so I got it for $48,500.
@dirkdiggler2379
@dirkdiggler2379 2 года назад
@@angrycar nice freaking deal. Right now those are about 55k
@steinway325
@steinway325 2 года назад
@@angrycar that's exactly what i did in August! i was a bit pissed off though, when Toyota bumped it up to $4500 rebate in September >:(
@angrycar
@angrycar 2 года назад
@@steinway325 Nice! I didn't know they bumped up the rebate, but that's ok, we still got great deals. Enjoy!
@kevin-jm3qb
@kevin-jm3qb Год назад
what oil do you guys run?
@magnetman3t725
@magnetman3t725 Год назад
Whoa where did you get hat Engine star brace from??? Looks like one solid brace ...Who makes it and how can I order it
@prskyviews
@prskyviews 3 месяца назад
My lord the ENGINE BRACE is FIREeeee I want it too!!
@omranmkv
@omranmkv 2 года назад
Perfect video, the big question is why Toyota/BMW changed from 2 ports to 6
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
That's a great question! We haven't done the research to answer objectively, but our hunch is to simplify manufacturing.
@turbanelite
@turbanelite 2 года назад
I can't decide which color to buy.
@e_skie2685
@e_skie2685 2 года назад
I would call the power a wash, but the 21 also included some suspension changes. Because of that I give the win to 21.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Yeah, as others mentioned in this thread, Stages are a subjectively term. Our Stage-3 is probably another shop's Stage-1, haha. But, we like to give our customers the ability to layer on over time, rather than committing to more than they might want or need.
@ricardoronin5170
@ricardoronin5170 Год назад
With the Wu playing!
@wezkerlim
@wezkerlim 2 года назад
doesn't matter. the 2020 can make good numbers with mods. i actually wish they ditch the 2021 motor & go 2020. no oil burn issues & ecu lock.
@prskyviews
@prskyviews 3 месяца назад
Are these tunes available for Bootmod3 ??????
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 2 года назад
I worked at carvona and drove lots of cars but the bmw supra was nice I would say if your 6 foot or above don't buy if you have a bad back don't buy but that exhaust note is as good as a srt4 or evo but the quality it very good though.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
You certainly aren't wrong, haha. The 2020 in this video belongs to Jordan (hosting the video). He's 6'6" and can attest to the challenges of getting in and out of an A90 Supra. That said, given his personal affinity for Japanese cars, he's used to make it work.
@NastyGenV
@NastyGenV 11 месяцев назад
would love to see a 2020 vs 2021+ with a similar turbo/mod setup around 600-700hp to see if the 6port actually does anything on the top end at that power level.
@2yoked70
@2yoked70 9 месяцев назад
It definitely does
@NastyGenV
@NastyGenV 9 месяцев назад
@@2yoked70 ok have proof?
@jakethesnake1503
@jakethesnake1503 2 года назад
I had a great time
@MizzouRah78
@MizzouRah78 2 года назад
We need a roll race video for a street comparison. 😎
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Ha, we'd love to see that comparison!
@cskudda
@cskudda 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. I thought the 2021 could not be tuned? Or did I hear wrong?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching, Chris! And the early 2021 models can be unlocked and tuned.
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
6-20 or earlier ecu date can be tuned
@jadej6348
@jadej6348 2 года назад
Love that front wing on the 2021 supra. Can I get the name of the company that makes them?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
We believe that's the Seibon MB Style front lip.
@user-br3mj7dd7r
@user-br3mj7dd7r 2 года назад
It's quite simple actually higher compression offers bigger gains per pound of boost but knocking becomes a limiting factor after a while so yes better overall numbers Maybe even mpgs without major changes but there is a greater room for improvement and big turbo applications in 2021 engine
@MMPGAMMING
@MMPGAMMING 2 месяца назад
Isn’t 2021 Supra ecu locked?
@andrewnguyen4382
@andrewnguyen4382 11 месяцев назад
this made me realize that I didn’t need to buy a 21+ model. yes it comes with more power out of the factory but they can achieve the same output (essentially)
@ctr-cyclone1408
@ctr-cyclone1408 2 года назад
That matches what I feel in the car for the 2020 as soon as you get to 5k rpm feels line it falls on it’s face
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 года назад
Haha yeah it does
@Wonderlaust
@Wonderlaust 2 года назад
Are you tuned?
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 года назад
@@Wonderlaust not yet
@ctr-cyclone1408
@ctr-cyclone1408 2 года назад
@@Wonderlaust No, it’s on the todo list.
@user-xb3nk6dx3g
@user-xb3nk6dx3g 2 года назад
Wait so the 2021 is now available to tune ? Details please. I have a 2021 just sitting in the garage waiting on some real data to follow.
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
If your ecu date is after 6-20 you have to send your ecu to Russia to get unlocked
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Hey J! Feel free to fill out our form on our website, a Performance Consultant will reach out to you with those details. www.nationalspeedinc.com/contact
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 Месяц назад
Not to mention a91 comes with locked ecu so you gotta pay an extra 2k for tuners for basically half the gains of the A90 so yeah his right if you plan on keeping it stock get the A91 if you plan on tuning it at least to sub 500whp levels get the a90.
@ZeerXX
@ZeerXX 10 месяцев назад
This is basically the same story with the GTR from an engine potential perspective. All years can produce the same power levels with similar bolt ons.
@olson5252
@olson5252 2 года назад
Soooooo can you tell me how much your stage 3 and tune costs?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Yep! Parts, install, and tune starts at around $3K out-the-door!
@emilianorodriguez6361
@emilianorodriguez6361 2 года назад
How much does the 2.0 Supra push out with full bolt ons and jb4 map 3
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
Not many have modded the 2.0
@user-bd6qv4hc8l
@user-bd6qv4hc8l 2 года назад
There is any difference between 2020 and 2021 short block internal parts handling the power
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Not that we have seen so far. The only bottom end difference is in the pistons.
@johnathensimmons1045
@johnathensimmons1045 2 года назад
How much would this list of tunes and mods cost, putting it on a 2020 model
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Hey Johnathen! It ranges depending on a list of variables. I recommend reaching out to one of our Performance Consultants here: nationalspeedinc.com/contact/ They will be able to answer all of your questions.
@kuraryuX
@kuraryuX 2 года назад
I'm coming to yall shop tomorrow with my bmw. Heard great things, and.....I need yalls help lol
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Glad you've heard great things! We're happy to help however we can!
@crackedbrainOG
@crackedbrainOG Год назад
So you can tune a 2021 Supra? I really can’t find a straight answer. Most things I’ve read is that you can only tune a 2020.
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 2 года назад
From the races iv seen from 20’ and 21’ it does seem like the 2 -port design is more torquer than the 6-port . And the 11:1 compression is better for turbo !
@carlosdeleon9593
@carlosdeleon9593 2 года назад
When you go for high boost, the lower compression ratio would be more beneficial, especially in terms of reliability and longevity
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
It is
@elvis_chen
@elvis_chen 2 года назад
Thanks for the info, but the real question is when can we MY21 owner get real ECU tuning :(
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Hopefully EcuTek is not far off from releasing a solution!
@marqueseason6360
@marqueseason6360 2 года назад
@@NationalSpeedInc What's your opinion on the JB4 piggy back? I have a 2021 and That's what im considering.
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
@@marqueseason6360 piggyback is trash
@helmernachbaur5880
@helmernachbaur5880 2 года назад
What do they mean by tunable 2021? I've got a July 2020 and it cannot be tune in France atm...
@ryanbrown918
@ryanbrown918 2 года назад
Pre June 20 can be tuned. Yours is just out...
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
6-20 ecu can be tuned
@madisondang1324
@madisondang1324 2 года назад
Hi guy how y’all doing I got one question since you guys from national speed I made. An appointment for my 2006 Mitsubishi evolution 9 at national speed in glen allen va,last minute the manager call me and canceled my appointment and refund my deposit,Taylor said they can’t tune my car,than why they didn’t say it at first ? Please I need answer
@madisondang1324
@madisondang1324 2 года назад
Hello I just need to know why sir
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Hello, I do not see a Work Order in our system under your name. Feel free to email customersuccess@nationalspeedinc.com with additional information, we'd love to chat.
@justinfreeman8908
@justinfreeman8908 2 года назад
I’m waiting for someone to stick 2020 pistons in to a 2021 to get the best of both worlds lol ports & pistons on stock turbo 😂 I bet that would break 500WHP & get better MPG
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
Maybe
@Mkv_jaahze
@Mkv_jaahze 2 года назад
Bruh exactly what I was thinking with mines 🤣🤣
@mresab1997
@mresab1997 9 месяцев назад
OR just save on the labor and put the '21 ports on the '20 engine, no?
@brianrockefeller3552
@brianrockefeller3552 2 года назад
I hear that BMW instaled a Anti-Tunig DME for B58 produced in 06/2020+, How did you tuned it?? its posible to Brake the Anti-tuning?? I hear that its imposible now, and I was Looking to Buy a BMW M340i, now I'm confused, can You explane me??
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
Ecu before 6-20 can be tuned easily After that ecu has to be sent to Russia
@brianrockefeller3552
@brianrockefeller3552 2 года назад
@@BabaYagaRacing but the Russian can really unlock the Ecu??? I heard that they don’t deliver your Ecu, like many people are getting scammed with Russian
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
@@brianrockefeller3552 for this service, we recommend FemtoEVO only. What they do isn't technically an unlock, it's an ECU clone, which essentially achieves the same end state: a tunable ECU. It's not cheap, but it's well worth it!
@straightsideways4834
@straightsideways4834 2 года назад
Maybe the 2020 because of that charge pipe which may let in more boost is putting down more numbers
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
We've seen no difference in output or boost pressure with the upgraded charge pipe. At this level, it's solely a reliability upgrade.
@doorkicker8507
@doorkicker8507 2 года назад
A charge pipe will add absolutely Nothing. As a matter fact. Most that change it have problems of them popping off.
@BroVCam
@BroVCam 2 года назад
WOW!!! I'm a Nissan guy but Yota's running laps around us and making sandwiches while doing it these days! Don't be surprised when I get the new Supra over the upcoming Z!!✌🏾❤✊🏾
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Right on!
@mtxmatrixxable
@mtxmatrixxable 2 года назад
I love the wutang beats.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Good ear!
@tomaslekis3262
@tomaslekis3262 2 года назад
I think the ‘21 ECU was locked and could only be tuned by like a single shop based out of russia?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Hey, Tomas, here's a copy-and-paste reply of ours to another similar comment: For everyone asking if the post-June 2020 ECUs have been unlocked yet, the answer is no, BUT there is a solution: cloning. In short, your ECU must be sent to FemtoEVO in Russia, where it is cloned into a tuneable pre-June 2020 ECU. From there, the ECU plugs in, and is tunable just like any pre-June 2020 ECU. The service isn't cheap, but in terms of horsepower-to-dollar ratio, it's still a great deal!
@amarrianderson3590
@amarrianderson3590 2 года назад
@@NationalSpeedInc due to what’s going on between Russia and Ukraine, is this option available and is there any videos of anyone doing this option?
@user-od1gl7wj5e
@user-od1gl7wj5e 2 года назад
Actually charge pipe does affect the maximum horse power.FTP motorsport does the test and prove about that.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Interesting! We did a similar test and saw no notable difference.
@purpskurp8737
@purpskurp8737 2 года назад
21 want my power at the tippy top
@emalior5000
@emalior5000 Год назад
Exactly. The 2020 falls flat on its face at 5k rpm. I've driven it and was left underwhelmed with how much it lacks top end power. A ton of bottom to mid then it signs off and leaves you unsatisfied especially when I own a mk4 supra with a ton of top end. It's not just about horsepower numbers it's about how it delivers it. A nice linear power curve all the way to 6 - 7k rpm is what I want and the 2021 and all the bmw cars with this engine have that power curve.
@MikeFico998
@MikeFico998 2 года назад
Are you guys dyno ing in 6th gear? 🤔 Put them both on Ethanol!
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Correct! 6th gear for each. We did a pretty cool fuel comparison with the 2020 in this video that's worth checking out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wymqS3DjBnw.html
@omarali6651
@omarali6651 Год назад
What's the difference between them in the stage 1 tune?
@chayenyang
@chayenyang 2 года назад
I have a 2020 and I plan on replacing my 2 port for the 6 port. If you want big power, 6 port is the way to go for 2 port owners
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 2 года назад
That's if you are going crazy power
@chayenyang
@chayenyang 2 года назад
@@BabaYagaRacing go big or go home
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 2 года назад
Iv yet to see anyone accomplish this , it would be ideal to have a 6-port with the 11:1 compression ratio
@chayenyang
@chayenyang 2 года назад
@@jaimatic23 the world record Supra is a 6 port. I’m pretty sure that the 2 ports are having a hard time hitting mid to low 8s
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 2 года назад
@@chayenyang i don’t believe that to be true as in this years TX2k , the top 2 supras were 2-port and they both were low 8s
@Spork40k
@Spork40k 2 года назад
Watches video...goes and buys a Supra...
@zero_to_1000
@zero_to_1000 11 месяцев назад
which one is more reliable
@prskyviews
@prskyviews 3 месяца назад
The 2020 model
@Pokemonnostalgia1991
@Pokemonnostalgia1991 2 года назад
Is this 469 Hp to the Crank of 469 Whp?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Our dyno measures at the wheels.
@prskyviews
@prskyviews 3 месяца назад
Is there a way to get these tu es in bootmod 3?
@prskyviews
@prskyviews 3 месяца назад
@@NationalSpeedInc is there a way to get this tune for a 2020 in bootmod 3?
@briansimpson5664
@briansimpson5664 Год назад
2020 was the way to go... Period
@TML34
@TML34 2 года назад
I’m not sure what the point of this test is? If you gave both cars the exact same tuning logic then you would expect the same results. There is no mention of the different tune characteristics.
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AqNoQyiOxL0.html There are mechanical differences between the two model years. See the timestamp linked above for a breakdown.
@Famous_Flavours
@Famous_Flavours 2 года назад
Stage 3 is normally a turbo upgrade 🧐
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Thanks for the comment. We saw the need for a more granular upgrade path.
@jamesvanderstraaten3852
@jamesvanderstraaten3852 2 года назад
lol that’s not stage 3 then everyone knows stage 3 is bigger turbo
@sxintwhosins4490
@sxintwhosins4490 Год назад
does this pass smog is the question lol
@brettgaldieri3873
@brettgaldieri3873 2 года назад
Wu Tang is forever!
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc 2 года назад
Good catch, sir! Protect ya neck.
@goforbroke2
@goforbroke2 2 года назад
Rats nest under that plastic engine cover.
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