Man, thanks for including those tire pressure / weight recommendations. for my peace of mind fiddling around and forcing certain tire pressures to ride on
Given the cost savings of a hookless construction you would think some of that would be reflected in the consumer price? Not against hookless, have been riding the 303s for a long time now and am very happy with them but 3200 is just on the wrong side of ridiculous.
Come on Dave, obviously the chocolate spread goes in tyres as sealant. That way when you do puncture you're less miserable as you also have a tasty snack 😋
What a good review of these wheels. I bought Zipp 303s wheels last year. These were such an improvement over my Bontrager 35 mm wheels. Now I want to get these wheels and am willing to pay the price. I know they will help me in my local group rides. I just want to go fast comfortably!
Hi David Arthur , i would like to ask do you review winspace wheels? Really want to see if its worth it to purchase this set of wheels (from people who bought it says its and the same quality as zipp , enve but cheaper
I bought this wheel, at first slightly regret cuz of the price but when I used it…. The speed and the control of those wheels are insane ! May get 353 for climbing too
Hi David, when using (the very useful) Zipp tyre pressure calculator, what made you choose standard casing rather than thin? I would have thought that the all rounder/race tyres from Pirelli and Goodyear would come under thin casing and subsequently require more pressure? Thanks
@@user-nu5fx6en9h can't go wrong with either one. 454 is still light enough for climbs and a beast on the flats. I wish my LBS which I plan to order these from are able to order the set with a 353 on the front and a 454 on the back. staggered set up will look so sick on the bike. but leaning towards the 353 which is perfect for the Aethos.
These wheels cost the same as a really good high-mid level road bike. In CAD these go for $5500 plus taxes. You can get wheels by Hunt, HED or Winspace for a fraction of the cost that will provide as good performance. I guess there are some brand weenies, or folks with REALLY deep pockets that will validate Zipp's marketing and pay these ridiculous prices. But I think Zipp has missed the mark here. I can't imagine there is a huge retail market for $5000 wheels. All of that said, it was a great review David....and love your honesty at the end of the clip.
@@Stevenafoe I don't think we'll ever see a comparison video like that. Most of the content on here is provided by channels that have enough exposure to get the big brands to make available their products for testing and reviews so that people will buy their products. If mainstream RU-vidrs were to run a video that shows the true absolutely marginal gains by paying 4x the price for the brand wheels - I'm sure that their access to branded gear would dry up pretty quickly.
Ya but if you buy the firecrest version, I have the 303 s they were 1500 US and some places cheaper now. If you buy the latest/greatest get out your checkbook, I support the company's R and D and new products cuz the older ones get cheaper.
@@timothyhollmann8571 I just bought a set of Winspace Hyper wheels for 990 US (after readily available 10% discount) and I don't think I'm losing anything on build quality, materials, or wheel performance. The Zipps probably are made in the same factory, or the one next door. And that's their top of the range wheels - I could have had a still really decent set of deep section carbon wheels for 628 US.
I'm big enough to know I can't shop Chinese carbon wheels unless I up my life insurance. Most flat to rolling where I ride but there is an occasional 35-40 mph descent on river hills. Thanks I ll keep my 303 s.
Great another great review David! At that price👀😳 I’d imagine they’re the type of wheel you buy and keep, swapping from bike to bike as you buy a new bike. I notice you’ve put them on the new Spesh SL7 Comp?? I’ve had my eye on the Comp and you’ve had it at least 3weeks now....so where’s the blood review mate, coming soon hopefully? 😁😉👍🏻 Cheers.
@@davidarthur The Trek Emonda SL6 comes with a power meter, carbon wheels and is cheaper?? But the SL7 Comp is far sexier!! See if you can have a word with Spesh and can get em to fit those zipp wheels for the same price??? 😍👍🏻
Hi David-if I buy my new Trek Madone SLR 9 do you trink this Zipp 454 are perfekt fit this Aero-Bike or di you Prüfer the DT Swiss 1100 Dicut?Thanks for your advice-Greetings Thomas from Germany
Hi David, I am looking to get a set of wheels to bring a bit of plushness to my aluminum frame BMC ALR. I currently have the stock wheels with 25 mm tires and tubes, and looking forward to going tubeless and wider tires, something like 28 mm. What wheels would you recommend in the range of 50 mm profile? I am looking at some Fulcrum Wind 55's. How do these compare in terms of ride quality to Zip, Hunt and Roval? Thanks, love the channel!
I am very confused . i just got a pair came from factory my 2021, the graphics are the same. i did a test w 28mm tires and with more watts they were slower than my old stock $500 wheels. the 28s overhang the rims by a large margin. i contacted sram /zipp and they said that due to 19mm internal rim width i was better off w 25 mm tires. so i ordered some. Now you say the. new 454 (which i thought i had) are 23 mm internal width , very confused. He said mine were "2021" but is there two versions of 2021 , did these new wider ones come out after mid may?? help
The new ones have pretty much just been launched, maybe even launched in the last few days/weeks. There's then often a delay getting them to consumers. You have the last generation I suspect.
I just got the scribe carbon 50ml yesterday, looking forward to trying them out, the zipps look so stunning and obviously perform 10/10 but scribe was a lot easier on my wallet
@@iamkabik23 Dude - I just picked up a set of Winspace Hyper wheels 50mm. They are as light as these, and very probably almost as aero. I haven't ridden them enough to give a real world....and I've never owned $5000+ Zipps for comparison's sake. Bottom line, unless you're a pro where a few seconds on a 40km time trial might make a difference in your life, save the money and buy a cheaper wheelset. Hunt, HED & Winspace are just a few companies you can get an aero wheel for a ton less than Zipp and Enve.
@@messi9991 so you don’t have any concrete objective examples of makes/models currently manufactured that are superior in the mentioned important metrics of a performance race wheel? I can’t seem to find any big dog. Especially with lifetime warranty and for cheaper…Please help
@@jays2150 I do, I did a lot of research. I am happy to discuss once you did likewise, otherwise I am just wasting my time. But if you want to buy overpriced, go ahead.
@@messi9991 ah darn, ok give me a couple months to really put some time into this so I can Engage with you, your likely pretty knowledgeable and fast. So sorry to waste your time
David when your riding a bike with a Sram group set do you set the Shift mode to, Sequential or compensating? I switched to sequential to help me stay in the big ring more.
Ya know Zipp has been releasing new wheels every couple of weeks and yet the ones I want(353NSW) aren't available till late next year. I've been tubeless for 5 yrs.
@Alex Armstrong I found a set last week only one more button to click and they would be mine. Then I found a set of 303 firecrest with the 25mm internal width they are on their way to m, so after saving 2K I ordered a new Fizik saddle.
hey davd great review .im expecting my trek madone slr 7 segafredo in mid may. ive been searching fot.a pair of zipp 858 nsw .any advise on how i can find them .thanks RK
The 353 are hard to look past with their low weight and great all-round performance, but if you want outright speed with few compromises the 454 would be the ones to go for
@Roberto Duranos 60psi on 23mm internal rims with 25mm tyres is actually a very firm tyre, it doesn’t squirm or roll like you would expect, think of it like a car, the rim supports the sidewall
I would like to share a thought at the risk of seeming a cynic. As an American I witness the madness of a car obsessed culture. 454 is a popular GM engine size (7.4L). I do not purchase or use any bicycle product with such connotations.
Thats not cynic. Thats something else., like idiotic. You made links which are pointless. Don’t buy tyres also, as cars use them too.. goodyear, michelin, pirelli, conti’s… go get help.
@@brianmaldonado3723 : you live in a parallel world. I don’t live in america, no clue what a 454 is (you state it’s an engine…). The numbers 454 mean nothing to me. They are just labels. could be a plane, could be some postal number, page in a book. Do you now see how idiotic you sound? Eddy merckx bikes have numbers, like 68 (refers to one of his many wins). And oh my, some american car has 68 in it’s name. Don’t buy the bike, says brian. Those names are just labels, no intrinsic meaning. Get over it. Zipp 454 has nothing to do with whatever american car. It’s in your head, and only there. That’s why you are called an idiot.
Cup and cone Campagnolo BB. Cup and cone Maillard 700 hubs. Magistroni headset with loose, tiny ball bearings, 48! of them. That brings my grand total to what?...about 130. I am not including the bearings in the freewheel, thats right, the cup and cone one. The hubs are smoother than ANY cartridge bearing hub I've had.
