2022 BMW M3 Competition Bolt Ons E85 vs 2018 Audi RS3 Upgraded Turbo E85 

Rs3 been looking plain looks like a mom car

@@60thirty22 that beats bmw 💪🏽😂😂

Stop saying the front grew on you! This isn't what stock g80 grills look like lol, this one has a beam across the middle to hide the buck teeth

@@Abercrombemonkey this one has the M4 CSL grill

@@UchihaM23 pretty sure this is the Vorsteiner VRS grill. Looks exactly like it. And to the original comment, the grill didn’t grow on you. The aftermarket grill did😂

I guess we cant, should be a 3s time from 100-200 kmh that would be crazy

I think ag could get us that

@@NeXAdam 3? do you know how fast that is cars making 1100whp+ run high 3s or low 4 lmao youd need alot more than a upgraded turbo to run 3s

@@khalidazizi3217 Watch Kotte Performance M2 w 1000hp makin a high 3s time. Just about how good the tune is you dont need more lol, and he knows what hes doing.

@@khalidazizi3217 of course its not easy to make those times, but theres no video out there right now with upgraded Turbos G80s, if im wrong show me a link i wanna see their times.

@Rob i agree. But the s58 does sound very good for a 6 cylinder

@Rob i agree. But the s58 does sound very good for a 6 cylinder

@Rob not doubting you. i drive a vw as well. daza is a crazy engine

@Rob 🤣🤣👉👉🤡🤡

Didn't notice that til I saw this comment

Audi 💪

Pretty much maxed out anything more would require built motor to be safe

@@rsximus exactly people don’t realize There is a Threshold between performance and Reliability ,when pushed to far the weakest link will give

Yea it’s super crazy. But that’s max effort, wouldn’t want to run it that way for long

@@mrstepitup9186 won't require built motor there a some people out there with upgraded turbos on stock engine

@@mushy1983123 yes you’re right but it will give bro

Audi killin’ the 5-cylinder game! 💯

The G80 is fine. Besides, people nowadays like anything due to lower standards.

Lol it’s on upgraded turbos, I hope it has more top end than the stock turbo m3. Barely passes at 160 plus it’s lighter. That g80 is crazy

​@@MikeyG003 it's a half liter and a cylinder down. That rs3 is a fucking beast

@@papermaker85 Did you forget the upgraded turbos part? Run that on the g80 and no comparison to the rs3 unless you build that motor.

@@MikeyG003 if your comparing that then talk about the extra 30-40k the g80’cost then . A 50k rs3 with fbo is hitting above its weight class for way less

@@mariannygonzalez511 broke boys always bring up price when they lose, funny. Can build a 25k civic that’ll blow the doors off both these, what’s the excuse then? Idk what m3 you looking at they going for low 70s comp package. Rs3 like 54k range, “30-40”pulling numbers out your ass

It is a solid buy without debate lmao. No way u needed this video to come to that conclusion?

@@45def55 believe it or not there’s a few people on this channel that don’t love bmws the way some of y’all do lol

@@RobQuincysFather2012 it’s not about being biased or not. M3s have a reputation

@@RobQuincysFather2012 for real

It's part of the reason I have one on order lol

Ehhh that's nothing. Just high metallic content pads.

Rods are the weak link in those G80s they are not forged, pistons are. The rods cannot produce more than 700wtq without bending. You’d have to forge the rods to make close to 1000whp on the S58 motor.

@@benzamg336 The connecting rods are forged, same ones from the F90 M5 in fact. However, they are not super “beefy” and still can bend at higher torque levels. I thoroughly researched buying a G80 M3 because of its out of the box capability. I ultimately decided to build my 2019 RS3 and went full frame. The rods and pistons in it now are very “beefy,” and can hold about 1150 hp.

www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesforyou/docs/ST1926-S58-Engine.pdf

@@MatthewJay80 I know it’s the same rods as the F90s hence me saying max 700wtq as that’s what they’ve proven to be capped at before bending. You would still need to replace rods in either a G80 M3 or F90 M5 for close to 1000whp either platform. I’m currently in a stage 3 E63 stock internals making 977whp 860wtq. Car ran fine for a few months but slipping it’s clutches now and time for it to go soon. I’m looking into a TTRS to send to iroz. What do you think of the IMS1000 or IMS1100 which one is the way to go I’m assuming more turbo lag with the 1100s?

@@benzamg336 I would go with an IMS 1100, as the price difference is small between the 1000 and 1100. The spool time between the two would be very slight as well. The XonaRotor turbos are very responsive for what they are. Shoot, even a good sized hybrid on a built motor DAZA can do things that don’t make sense in a good way. For a solid all around fun streetcar, these cars are hard to beat, just not too many of them are made.

Almost 50k subs bro 👍!!

Thank you! That would be a nice milestone! 😁

@@AutoGlory well deserved! Was here since like 15k. I don't know how the algorithm found me your channel, but I'm glad it did!

@@Twobarpsi me too! I. Really glad you enjoy!!! It means a lot!

@@AutoGlory so good I unsubbed from other "bigger" channels. Your content is top notch, combined with your straight to the point, and epic videos makes you unique, and the best racing channel on RU-vid! You will hit 1 million!

The blue one is fully dialed in and gutted so it should be faster for sure 🙇‍♂️

It’s all context. BMW tends to put great turbos in their cars in stock form that respond well to mods. Based on the power figures mentioned in the video, they are likely running an equivalent sized turbo. Albeit, with a bit of a weight difference. Great races nonetheless.

"Only" is a strong word 😒🤦🏼‍♂️

@@350z33hr Read the words before "only" and you should understand the context a bit better.

@@Omega_TTRSAgreed, but kind of my point, Stock turbo for stock turbo from the races i"ve seen thus far, the G80 is not getting gapped. Regardless of the quality of turbo BMW puts on its out of factory cars, stock turbo for stock turbo, the G80 is coming out on top.

@@franklinwatson7767 for sure. I think they embrace the culture behind their cars a bit more than other manufacturers. Lots of head room in their stock turbo applications.

All day, every day!

idk if you’ve ever looked up used RS3’s on the market but a 2018-2020 go for around $60k with over 30k miles. You can find G80 M3’s for $75k with less than 10k miles. RS3’s are surprisingly expensive, they get marked up a lot at dealerships. I knew a friend who paid $58k for a 40k mile 2017 RS3 and that was the best price he got from a dude selling it privately

@@LeJunny The RS3's def seem to be holding their value very well! I was hoping they'd come down as I wanted one for a DD (I love the small size and sound of these cars), but they never dropped like I assumed they would. They haven't made a ton of them either, which probably helps hold that value.

@@LeJunny why would you buy a 2018 car with 30,000 miles on it? That means it's sat around for most of its life running only 6000 miles a year basically gumming up the fuel lines I bought a 2018 Audi RS3 for $32,000 with With 68,000 miles on it and slapped on an IMS kit and boosted it up to 1000 hp and no issues for the last 17,000 miles

Love Bmw but those fanboys are sore little loser simps

@@artansadiki3244 actually, it’s always another excuse after another instead of actually just watching the video

IMO, this is the ONLY negative about this channel. Very heavy on BMW's and simps, but amazingly good content.

@@ssoffshore5111 yup spot on, very good content and cars but when it comes to any bmw race there’s always a say on it lol

And all supporting mods. Can’t wait to see what that M will do on upgraded turbos. 🤤 and it’s supporting mods .

Yea supporting mods also, just didn’t feel like typing it😅 dude there’s stock motor , unlocked dme with supporting mods g8x running high 9s in the quarter😳 it’s insane. Like you are saying can’t wait to see them upgraded turbo 😮‍💨

That’s Hanks personal RS3 correct? I love both brands, honestly. Not sure tho if the g8x can take it to 1300? That’s a tall order. But like you were saying, we’ll have to wait n see🙌🏻🏎

@@rsximus playing catch up? Bmw s55 came out in 2014 and there was really no comparable vw motor to that. The daza came out after so, not really true saying they playing catch up with the s58 when it was gonna come out for the next gen. Not a few years later.

they playing catch up actually@@MikeyG003

Sadly it's only a matter of time.

Thank you 😁

Wow! That's saying a lot! Thank you Evan!!!

It really grew on me to the point that I actually like it now.

@@Eddy-09 incoherent design man. Its like going to gypsy settlement and getting use to all the shit around you. Dont stoop down to that level man trsut your eyes. The shapes dont line up. Like a Pontiac aztec except in that cars case it was literally every angle of the car 😂😂😂

@@stefanfreestylez I hate the stock grill I saw one in person other day and it was disgusting. I guess it’s only the BMW fans that are saying the grill has grown on them since they accepted it. With a carbon fibre grill upgrade like this G80 has it doesn’t look half as bad and with aftermarket intakes showing it looks nicer. Stock grill will always be ugly looking even in 10 years.

@@stefanfreestylez To be fair, I think this grill isn’t how it came from the factory. Not sure if it’s a completely diff yet similar front bumper, or he just took off the small rails and opened it up more, because what I really like is how it exposes the intercooler and the intakes he added. Stock doesn’t look great, but it does after what he did to it.

@@Eddy-09 ya bmw fixed it considerably with the CSL hood and grill(same as this guys). If people start putting similar hoods to the csl maybe ill like it more because it blends then into the rest of the design. Just my opinion that the shape of the grill and surrounding shapes dont add up. Not knocking the mans whip at the end of the day its a beast and does look good from other angles. Side note: The dark colour helps hide the grills shape alot

Yeah, G80 is great but these Bimmersimps are laughable

Facts! 💯

I wonder which one will hold value better in 5 years 🤔

@@Eddy-09 They will both hold respective value! Regardless, two amazing cars!

Anyone 6 foot or taller is taking the M3! Hahaha

@@JCizzleSoCal that's wrong actually, I have an RS3, Im 6'3 and fit in the RS3 perfectly , not much head room but it works just fine.

The AWD ironically gets significantly better track times because it provides extra grip in corners. So apart from roll racing AWD versions of this is superior in every regard and the penalty on roll is so minimal that it's irrelevant at this point. In addition the RS3 is AWD too so it's matched.

Spend 130k buying and building one and you can do whatever you like with yours. I prefer to not beat on mine unnecessary.

Stfu ……. Go buy one .

@@Scum.m3 people on the internet don’t get how digs beat on drivetrain lol harder to break shit starting in 2nd or 3rd at 50

@@Turtle-sz7sk 100% most of these commenting are fried…..

I don't think people who can buy m3 csl will tune them, unfortunately 😕

M4 CSL*

@@valeriyGennadyevich yeah it’s too expensive and rare to mess with like that and doubt any young people gonna buy it and mod it. Better choices in that price range if you wanna go fast

I think you mean M4 CSL

@@leolopez626 oh yeah my bad lol they only make coupes csl, so yeah m4

Thank you very much! I'm really glad you like the videos

Both of them fully upgraded and built the RS3 would still be quicker. There are lots of TTRS & RS3s in the low 8s 1/4 G80 so far is mid-low 9s

@@benzamg336 fastest stock turbo g80 runs a 9.5

@Benz AMG facts lol s58's are a beast of an engine but you can't sleep on that 2.5 5 cylinder lol

@@datm340i6 Yes I know it was tuned by Paul Johnson that’s why I’ve said mid 9 an upgraded turbo G80 would be low 9. It’s not easy to break from the 9s even with an upgrade turbo. Stock turbos on the G80 is great upgrading them will give you more top end but will not be 8s. You’d have to fully build the engine to use the full potential of the upgraded bigger turbos.

@@benzamg336 S58 have way more potential than any TTRS/RS3 5 cylinder engine.

Hard being an underdog with upgraded turbos though. Great match-up

Twin scroll is different from twin turbo engines

@@m3awd598 Underdog being the car began with less Bhp to begin with. Anyone with a pocketbook obviously can always mod, for me it's what you start out with that counts as well.

@@AtonAnton yes I know, BMW uses a Single twin scroll Turbo... but cry me a river it's still starts 100BHP more than the Audi, and has full bolt Ons, tuned for E85. I guess it goes to show that the little 5cyl is just a monster. Oh right, of course the BMW needs larger Turbo's etc, it's all about the size of the pocketbook and how the mods work with the car.

@@JuergenGDB 100 more bhp and 300lbs+ heavier. I don't see your point. Also consider this: a built Honda civic vs naturally aspirated audi r8. The honda will destroy a NA audi r8. Will you say still say Honda is the underdog because it started out with less horse power? Make it make sense

The grill?😂😂😂😂😂

Weight savings of 400lbs?

absolutely not the rs3 top end is insane. it just keeps pulling look at videos of it vs mustangs which have a good top end aswell it is scary fast after 150

@@kurtjunkers4923 I love rs3 but it aint beating a s58 engine vs engine bro lol

@@kurtjunkers4923 First round the G80 had him top end, but he let off.

Nope! 👎

The M3 is 400 pounds heavier….harder to move around that extra weight.

Stock engine. I forgot the turbo but he didnt want me to reveal it anyway lol.

@@AutoGlory pretty lame. It’s probably the IMS710HS turbo which is old but still fast and you can run it on stock engine internals

@@AutoGlory thanks man, kinda odd being so secretive about a low 6 sec 60-130 car but hey his car his prerogative 👍🏻

@@cobrario4954 it’s not a 6 second car

@@Scum.m3 ok- in that vid it looks like a mid 6 sec hit so discounting passenger weight I figured lower 6's, but again, his prerogative to not reveal his details.

That might get me to pull the trigger!

@@ssoffshore5111 no way! So you know b58 can do the same right!???????

They never raced b4

@@AutoGlory ohhh gotcha. Either way bro, keep ‘em comin!!

@@rich_forever94 thanks bro! Always appreciate your support!

No these were the only 2 runs

First race the G80 got the Rs3 btw, but he let off, start imagine how it would be on a M4 CSL with Upgraded Turbos, hope to see some youtube videos soon.

@@NeXAdam i guess you can always spend more lol

@@Kujashin I mean ye, but theres no G80/82 right now out there with upgraded Turbos thats why i am waiting for that and what kind of 0-100 and 100-200kmh times they make

@@NeXAdam plenty of G8X on upgrades pures and a few on single already