Being in archery for more than 30 plus years i appreciate the younger guys like yourselves teaching in the respectful ,positive way you do. This is the first ive seen of your channel. Keep up the good work your doing it right.
Over thirty years now. Hoyt first-5, the bowtec next back to hoyt. Newest hoyt three years ago, loud snap almost at full draw. No one could find it. Happened at 20-30 shots. This was a new bow. Returned it. After trying many, I bought a V-3 Mathews. It so outperformed everything. This is my first Mathews. I am so very impressed with this bow.
Refreshing to see a shop that doesn’t push a brand. The one I no longer go to, walked up to me while shooting, and began bashing my bow to try and get me to by their preferred brand. Thank you for helping her decide based on the feel.
Just wanted to say after watching the video I was really impressed with how you deal with the bows and the customer that is something you don't see a lot of in people for people nowadays it's just see it pick it sell it bye. Congrats on your work.
This is EXCELLENT! SO impressed with you taking CARE of your customers! A great honest real world test, by the consumer! I have preached this for years! There are so many outstanding bows out there, shoot the one that FITS YOU! SUCH A GREAT JOB. So many SO CALLED PRO SHOPS could learn a thing or two from you guys. You set the mark for all to follow! Absolute pleasure to see this. And to Miss Cassie, wishing you a great hunting season! good job!
Tons of great lessons and insights unrelated to the bows themselves during this video. It was between the Ventum Pro 33 and V3X 33 for me... can't go wrong either way. For that reason, I came back a second day and did a head to head fresh and the V3X took it.
Shocker...? It is always a Mathews with elk shape. We all predicted the outcome. I do like MFJJ though. I have been a prime guy for years, but after shooting all the bows, one thing was for certain the Hoyt has the best draw and a way better grip than the Mathews. I have never been a fan of Hoyt but I did end up buying one because i thought it was the best bow out there. I quit chasing a brand!
While I haven't looked at the v3x, I personally have and love my Ventum 33, shot side by side with a V3 33 for a few weeks and just couldn't come to be comfortable with the Matthews. I really wanted to like the v3 more, but the draw cycle, balance and feel to me was mushy. Speed and sound was really impressive on the v3. To bad the Ventum 33 @ 84 lbs won my vote... but to each their own. Bottom line, shoot them all and make your own choice. Chances are you're gonna love whatever you buy especially if your current setup is 5+ years old
To be fair, who cares what you think? You weren’t invited to try out the bows and give your opinion. She tried them all and made the best decision for her. She wasn’t pressured to buy anything, you just needed something to complain about today😂
What’s not surprising is that someone who already was used to and has already been shooting a Mathews would feel that another Mathews that’s basically the same bow as she already has is the best one lol. The one she chose is barely any different than the one she currently shoots.
Same process I just went through. Quickly narrowed to a V3X, Ventum 33 Pro, Prime Inline 3. If I had picked after one shot, the initial pick would have been matthews. But, shooting for a couple of hours total, the back wall just started to reveal how mushy and ill defined it was. Not gonna work for holding on an animal waiting for the shot. The prime felt jumpy and the Ventum just got better the more I shot it. She came home with me. The lesson isn’t the bow, it’s to SHOOT THEM and stop looking at logos/brands.
"Some people don't get to try all these things" Left handed with a 31" draw length. Getting a bow for me period is difficult, let alone trying multiple.
Agreed . When I bought mine my local shop didn't have much for Lefties . So I paid to get my measurements. Ordered online and have been happy ever since. Bowtech Assasin .
As someone who owns both Mathews and Hoyt the only issue I have with this is once he seen how much she loved the Hoyt he started to verbally nudge her towards the Mathews. So much so he started commenting his own negative views/thoughts on the Hoyt while she was holding it. And then praised the Mathews while she held the Mathews. You can definitely tell especially in 2nd half of review he was pushing her to the Mathews. Either way I’m a big fan of both brands and that’s why I own both V3X and Ventum Pro. Congrats to her for her choice!
My competition was Prime Inline 1, V3X 29, and Ventum Pro 30. Prime was the first to go. Close call but the Matthews V3X 29 won. In the end I liked the mechanics and the feel a bit more. I had my shop set them up. Then I did a similar shooting process. They left me alone so I liked that. I love the V3X 29.
This was a good video. My lady is going to pick out her 1st bow on Saturday. She never shoot a bow before. We both are excited. We can’t wait till Saturday.
My chick was all gungho about a Mission MXR because it was the only bow she ever tried & thought she "loved it".. I said let's wait & we'll go try more just to be sure...... I had her shoot a bunch of them blind folded & the one that stuck out was a Diamond 305... She kept coming back to it wouldn't stop shooting it. The cheapest bow of them all. . . . . The next bow she liked was the Eva Shockey & the 1st MXR ,,, well,, she didn't like it while shooting it blindfolded.. . . The bow will pick you & the 305 picked her !!! And to be honest, that little bow needed to be tuned but, it very quietly flings arrows !!!
Ok, fun story, I'm in South Alabama watching this video..I'm originally from Shelton Washington so I text my brother who lives in Olympia and he says yeah I know her and her family... small world guys thanks for putting out great videos
Pretty much what I did when I got my bow, and it came down to the Ventum pro and v3x as my final picks, with the Ventum pro coming out on top for me. They’re both honestly solid options, very hard to pick.
I was torn between the two, But ended up going with the v3x 29. The deciding factor just ended up being there was no shop in my area that sold Hoyt gear. The store is a large mathews dealer and most familiar with the brand, So that's just what I figured would be the smartest choice.
That’s what I do every time I buy a new bow. There is NOTHING worse than getting buyers remorse after getting a new bow. You get home and wish you would’ve bought the other one. Great video !👍🏻
Great idea for the vid. Rewarding a subscriber and listening to a regular shooter give feedback on the process. Plus, she got feedback from MFJJ, lots of us would PAY for that time! Hopefully the concept of "subscriber" participation can work on a few more vids. Keep it up guys
I have not purchased a new bow in over 12 years. Still shoots great. I have taken over 30 bull elk in the field in the public lands mostly in Washington State. If you got the money to buy a new bow ever year that is great. Personally, I shoot a longer axle to axle bow to reduce wrist torque. I have only taken three bulls standing but most have been taken on one knee or both knees bending my body around trash or a tree.
For me it was the opposite. I always shot mathews and my last bow was the vertix. Shot the mathews this year and it felt no different than my vertix. Didn't feel any improvement although I know they improved upon your ability to work on your bow in the field. Shot the hoyt and loved the draw cycle/grip as well as the balance. Ended up going with the hoyt rx7 30". My lady told me I had better like it because I will not be upgrading for a while😅.
I personally think Hoyt makes the best bow all around today,and for many years. They've had a couple brain farts but overall,well constructed bows. I'm still still shooting the PSE EVL 32 from 2021 when Hoyt went binary. But it's high time I move back to Hoyt. For Mathews ? I simply can't see what everyone likes about the draw cycle and the high points Mathews builds into the cam's to provide more axle @ full draw toreduce string pinch for longer draw people. They weigh the riser down beyond anyone's else's riser to give the no kick after the shot,which I think is what attracts Mathews shooters. I'm not a fan of the Mathews, and them not making 80 pounds,puts them to the side for me. 75 pounds vs 80 is a difference.
Im gonna get back into shooting archery again, but its so hard to find the right bow and arrows. Im so lucky to have a freind that shoots competition, so she will help me.
So this is definitely a good process of helping someone pick a bow. And I think this is one of the most thorough ways i have seen. However, I have never understood why pro shops do not have shooters try the bows out in multiple positions??? I mean when your in the real world hunting one encounters countless positions and foot positions and stances and postures. For example i have helped multiple people decide on bows and I always have them try a normal stance and an opens stance and a closed stance when standing. In addition, i have them shoot sitting down and kneeling because all of those are real world scenarios for shooting. And each position has a different feel and posture. And i even have people who are trying to determine what draw weight they should start at have them sit flat on the ground in a long sitting position(feet and legs outstretched in front of them and then have them try and pull the bow. People are always surprised at how difficult it is to do this and control and well ultimately if i cannot pull the bow back in this position with bending and weaving and pointing the bow to the sky or twisting the neck then u probably should not start at that draw weight until your stronger or can handle it better. So those would be the only thing i would add to their format on shooting to help a person really see what bow fits them the best. Other than that everything else is excellent
We left-handed shooters in Europe don't have to ask to have a few bows ready for testing! They are simply not there, not even at the importer! I finally ordered a Bowtech SS34 purely on what I could deduce from your RU-vid videos! Can be tuned yourself because also a left sight or arrow rest does not have these must be ordered first. I hope I like the compound bow, but it's a leap of faith here. Will first rebuild my left sight from my old Hoyt bow!
Honestly for me when it gets to 2 bows I decide by setting both up completely and shooting my arrow set-up. I switch criteria to, arrow speed, overall bow weight, and how loud the shot is.
After buying an onieda a few years back I don't think I'll go back to a traditional compound unless someone offers a free bow press with one. I'll take the speed hit on my arrows if it means I still have the right to repair. Awesome video though
This was a great review and a great way to break it down. I’m personally a Hoyt fan now. I chose to go Ventum and love it but it was a very hard decision between the Ventum and V3x. Great job guys!!
switched this year from my VXR 31.5 to an Rx7. Booth have bad and good things . I like these front loaded feeling on the Hoyts a tiny little more. Its easier for me to let it down and dont initial shakey wgen it drops in the Valey. But still booth are great Brands 🤘🏼
The Mathew grips are usually very comfortable, but they are not the best for accurate shooting and that is why so many remove the grips on their Mathew bows and either shoot it without the grips or they get aftermarket grips that are much better than the standard ones.
I was going to get a Hoyt to upgrade from my old bear and ended up shooting Hoyt,bow tech,pse ,Mathew’s. I wasn’t even thinking I’d leave with a Mathew’s but it fit what I wanted in a bow and my style the pse evo was second choice I took some good advice and tried a few until I found the one for me Trust me find what right for you and you will be happy with your choice regardless of brand
I was just in shooting a bunch of bows at my local shop! Shot a Prime Inline 3, Bowtech Revolt XL, Matthews V3X 33, Hoyt Ventum Pro 33 and PSE Stealth Mach 1. Matthews draw was my favorite, Stealth was most comfortable to hold, Hoyt was unique and I liked it but can't explain why I liked it, although wasn't the biggest fan of the balance.... Prime and Bowtech were nice but not my tops. Basically all of them felt dead in the hands! I'm leaning towards the v3x 33 for my next bow. completely agree with her bout the V3X, it just feels right!!
I was shooting a Mathews Creed XS for years, I bought an Elite Kure in 2020 and have been absolutely ecstatic with it. I'm sure all of these are great bows, but I'll stick to my Elite until it falls apart.
I chose the same bow. Mathews V3X. I did change the grip and went with the Mathews side plates. Here is the thing. It wasn’t my choice or anyone else’s on what she picked. She chose what suited her the best. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes when it comes to a bow. You can even take two people that shoot the Mathews and they both probably chose that bow for two different reasons. Why? Because everyone is different in their own way. Some people are so dead set on one brand of bow that it just eats away at them when they see others go against their brand. Like who cares. She gets a great bow to hunt with this next bow season and that’s what matters. As for the viewers be happy with the bow that you shoot. If you love your bow and your brand then that’s awesome. It’s all about what you like not her. Isn’t that why we invest so much money into our bows. To make ourselves feel good. I know I didn’t go spend a lot of money on my Mathews bow because someone else told me to or because they said Mathews is better than Hoyt. I did it because that was my choice and I feel I made the right one. Isn’t that what really matters.
I honestly feel like the v3x is the best bow on the market for hunting. But I’ve always preferred a Mathew’s to any other brand. I shoot them all every time I upgrade but the Mathew’s always wins by a land slide to me
I thought that until I tried the rx7 ultra. Never had a Hoyt before but it was an obvious winner for 2022, just not for everyone obviously with the absurd price
@@text68 idk I have never cared for the draw cycle or the feel on any Hoyt. They always felt like they have more vibration and the hood wasn’t as good. Not to mention the issues people started hanging with their risers around 208-2019. I probably could give them some test shots but I know where I’ll end up is right back with Mathew’s.
This is the same way I selected my bow. Waiting for it to arrive. Ventum pro and v3x were my final 2, and the mathews came out on top for me. Honestly they all shoot better than my skill level. Also, if you notice her t-shirt, exo mtn gear...best hunting packs made. Mathews bow and exo pack, doesnt get better.
I love how mfjj does these tests. Because he shows how every person is different and their personal preferences suit each person different. My little sister is a bowtech nut, big sister was a hoyt junkie, brother is into matthews in a weird way. And i shot competitively in high school with a pse, martin, and hunted 5 years with a diamond now i shoot a prime and for me its perfect. its my personal preference. Love these videos.
As usual, great video. Overall I thought the criteria used were spot on but I would add shot execution. In other words, which bow felt the best during the shot. I would also ask the customer if they have a criteria they would like to add, if any. Then I would ask them to pick which of the criteria is most important to them and weight that criteria. Again, great video!! Keep up the great work promoting the sport!
Phenomenal video again. Having a short draw length like i do makes it tough buying bows. Gonna shoot a few different options at local shop here in Pennsylvania. Keep up the great work...
Can't go wrong with any of these bows. I did my process a little different. But everyone is different and looks for different things in bows. I went with a bowtech solution because to me it shoot the best and felt the best. Also the technology did played a factor.
It’s hard to do.. but definitely nice to do.. that’s why we try to publish this so others can hear somebody’s thoughts at least it provides a starting point - tc
Yay! An educational archery video geared towards us few and far between female archery hunters! (But relevant to guys looking for a new bow) Thanks Kassy & MFJJ! Would like to see more geared towards the ladies, It's hard to find information that is pertinent to us! How about arrow weight & foc for us shooting lower draw weights? BTY, what kind of bow was Kassy shooting before deciding on her new bow?
Waaaaaay Freaken Cooool Video! Good format for testing. Nice to show results on paper as you go through the process. No pressure for any brand. MFJJ did a great job walking her through things. Nice final two bow shoot off! I ended up with Mathews as well. And thought it was going to be Hoyt. Nice work Timmy! Keep coming out with great ideas like this! Please do a follow up video of Cassey hunting Elk this fall! Get more woman into shooting & hunting! Great job!
MFJJ, if I understand right would the vibration even be a point of interest if it’s in the way we grip the bow. Why would we have that as a metric in determining which bow we would get?
So weird about the same process figuring out my bow to me I could hold the Hoyt on target more comfortably than the Matthew's. Also found the slight wiggle at the beginning of the draw to be more helpful than the wiggle at the back end of Mathews , Just found the pin settled faster with hoyt. Oh and Hoyt seemed slightly quiter when having to shoot a little further at Animals figured that as a plus. The balance of the Hoyt was the first thing that was a smack in the Face, compared with all the bows I tested. Easy to hold full draw , but also seemed to me that it moved the least amount at full draw and actually found that the, bowtech held better than Matthew's also. It took me 3 different trips to the archery shop to decide between the Matthews and Hoyt Ventum 33, I took alot of things into consideration, but eventually ended up with Hoyt, Just thinking mostly about hunting situations, the way the pin seem to move the least , hold time , for those stubborn Animals that stop behind brush for a min or two . So anyway Think everyone who bow hunts is going to have to just choose based on personal preference. Happy hunting everyone and good luck this year!
One complaint, at the beginning or your video the camera focus is on you as you are describing the bows where the focus should be on each bow you are introducing. I had to stop the video, open another browser page and google them, just FYI.
Man I wish the shops around me allowed you to demo bows like this . I ended up with a mathews v3x but the shops only allowed me to draw each bow not fire them.
I have owned pretty shot or owned all the brands are naming and right now.Normally I would say something because she didn't like the prime. But I don't blame her. I still shoot a 2018 prime rize. once they started making the cynergy and now the single track bows they have not been as smooth as the original dual track models like the rize, allow, etc. It's a perfect example of if it aint broke don't fix it.
Why does it feel like everyone doesn’t like Prime? I’ve watched multiple review videos and a ton of people say the Prime In-line isn’t good compared to other bows, I’ve shot all of those except the Hoyt, and the Prime is the most comfortable bow I’ve ever shot so I bought it lol.
They are all great bows , it’s a personal choice who cares about the brand it’s about finding a bow that’s going to suit and fit you, unfortunately for tall guys like me finding long draw length bows and longer ATA bows don’t come along to easily bow poundage’s are fine it’s just longer DL and ATA bows , because I shoot bare bow with fingers I need ATA bow around 42 inch and DL out 33-34 inch ,
My draw is so short that I have to ask the shop to order a bow so I can try it. So when I went in I didn't have choices. However I love my Matthews but had nothing to compare it to.
Ahhh I literally was just thinking the other day how cool it be go up there shoot all the bows and get a new set up, make a video! Still planning on it this fall after archery season.
Hey guys to start with I have shot and owned bows (many) 2nd I'm looking for a new compound bow for myself but, here's the kicker I am a 47 year old left handed man with cp. If you don't know what that is it is a weakness in the right arm and some strength issues come with that. Ok now, my draw length is 29-1/2 to 30" and draw weight is at realistic weight 40-50lbs. So with that said with all the new bows on the market now days I'm having a hard time with picking the right one. Hoyt Rx 5 with the 85% let off I like them from the bear line like the devergent with 90% let off. Then the Mathews line just don't know on that line. Just saying also though I really like the Hoyt line though in the pro line. Then the bear line. Keep in mind, easy draw cycle, comport, Ballance, weight (draw) and let off for elk and whitetail , moose if can soon. Then the weight of the bow also a kicker somewhat. Can you please help. No crossbow.
