2022 Ford 6.7L Diesel VS 7.3L Gas || The Powerstoke Is The 7.3L Gas Worst Nightmare... Or Is It? 

Based on the numbers from your video it would take 318989 Miles to break even. But that isnt counting the extra cost of the diesel maintenance.

I’ve had tons of diesel trucks. I used to be obsessed with them. Diesel used to be cheaper than gas. U factor that in. Def fluid. Higher cost maintenance repairs. Harder to find a diesel mechanic that’s honest and fair . I no longer am obsessed with them.

We just got our 7.3L, 4.30 rear end 2022 F350 Lariat that we had ordered back in September 2021. My wife and I really tortured ourselves about going gas vs. diesel, but man are we happy with how that 7.3 performs -- pulling our ~7klb TT with that 7.3 and deep rear end is effortless. I'm sure that the Powerstroke would do even better, but I'm impressed with that 7.3. I totally understand the fuel economy bonus of the Powerstroke, but that 10k$ upcharge is a lot. You say it straight in your vid when you say that there really isn't a comparison between gas and diesel... We just determined that the gas made more sense for our specific situation as drivers in MN.

Great discussion, I have the 7.3 gas in a 2021 F250 crew cab with 3:55 in the rear, I have pulled a travel trailer 8k lbs with full cargo and family 4-5 people from SW Ohio to panhandle of FLA twice in the last year, it handles load and rides great, the RPMs stayed under 3000 the majority of the trip even going through the mountains (driving conservative) I love the low end torque, no exhaust brake although in tow/haul mode when you let off the gas and tap the brakes it will drop some gears and help slow down well, 8.5-10.5 mpg while towing, 13.5 unloaded, I didn’t even consider the diesel due to the high initial cost the DEF and extra maintenance required, and I don’t plan on ever towing super heavy loads and or pushing truck to full capacity, so for myself Its great and smooth like peanut butter and jelly, lol

Fleet manager here. As several have pointed out the mpg means nothing when you are talking entry cost and maintenance cost. The 7.3L V8 will always win. We have 86 vehicles in our fleet from F-250 to F-450 and until the 7.3L V8 came out they were all diesel trucks. In the last couple of years we have been replacing every truck that hits 300,000 miles with a 7.3L V8. So you know back in the day we would replace at 500,000, but the emissions systems have absolutely killed the longevity of the diesel trucks. They are just too expensive to maintain anymore. So far, we have switched out 39 of our vehicles for F-350 7.3L V8 trucks. We will eventually get to 52 total 7.3L's and then the rest will still be diesel. In the F-350 gas we can still tow 80% of what our company moves on the roads. We usually are 12,000-18,000 for most jobs. Anything above 18,000 and you are going to want a dually diesel anyway. Bottom line if you are anyone that tows a camper or anything really under 15,000 lbs I would not hesitate getting the 7.3L. It will save you tens of thousands of dollars in lifetime maintenance and $10,000 in entry costs. Don't even get me started on diesel fuel. Because of the extra costs for diesel the gas engines are cheaper too especially when towing.

You also have to consider when the diesel goes into Regen. It greatly affects mileage.Mine stayed in for 8 to ten miles. I get around 15 mpg with mine. I have the 7.3 now and get around 13 doing the same thing with both trucks.

Great video. Love my 2020 7.3 Godzilla. Paid a ton less than. The diesel and don't have to mess with Def fluid. Not to mention my oil changes every 10k are $39.99. Compared to diesel. I can pull 14k and almost 3k in the back bed. Feels line a truck. Love it.

Another great video! I just broke 1K miles on my 2022 F350 Tremor with the 6.7 power stroke. I'm getting 19+ MPG with a mix interstate and city driving. Granted I am gentle on the throttle when taking off. Still trying to find the 5th wheel that I can handle comfortably though.

For me, all I had to do was look at a diesel truck without the bed on it, man that’s a lot of emissions crap laid out there, bought the 7.3, not going to back.

Need to do a video of cost of ownership for both. No doubt the diesel is the way to go on heavy loads but if your pulling a 16k camper the cost favors the 7.3....break out a calculator and run the numbers....the 7.3 is more cost effective and becomes more so as the spread between diesel any gas costs get greater. Include all maintenance costs and DEF as well.

Have a tenant who has a small construction company. He purchased 3 new 2021 F250 6.7, all three had engine replacements well within the warranty period. All turbos went out and 2 trans (10 speed I believe). He’s a die hard Ford guy too. He switched over to Ram, reluctantly. They had to end up relying on a 99 F250 when all 3 were in the shop at the same time. Hopefully Fords redesign in 2023 fix a lot of the issues. I love Fords myself, but I’m holding out to see how the new engine fares.

This will be awesome to see!! I just arrived to Austin for a week of music, so will have to catch this next week. I really like my 7.3l gasser!!

Great video as always. I never really looked at the sticker on my truck and when I just checked it’s 10800 and 3054 payload and it has the overload spring.

Honestly depends what your towing if your towing 10k + pounds on a regular basis I'd say go diesel if not save the 8 grand and the Payload go 7.3

I’ve had trucks and rv’s for over 45 years. My current f350 has a 7.3 & 3:73 rear. I tow a 7600# TT. With 5600 miles on the clock I ave 13 empty around town and 17 on the frwy. On a 4k trip from the PNW to AZ and back I averaged 10.3. Camping friend with 2 yr old GM diesel & similar TT averaged 1.5 mpg better on same trip. He has more tq up long steep hills but I have no issues at all keeping up and I’m not straining a bit. Ultimately I bought the truck to tow so empty mpg mean nothing to me. So for ME the 7.3 made a lot more sense.

My work truck is a '21 Duramax, crew cab, utility bed....she's right at 14,000lbs with my tools, ect. I generally run 79 mph (when I can of course. Lol) and I'm getting 13 mpg. I'd say that Ford, with all that power too is doing great. You answered some of my questions....I've been curious about the new 6.7. Great video bud.

Diesel is $1.50 more per gallon where I’m at. So the better diesel MPG is negated by the diesel fuel cost.

All boils down to how often and what weight you tow. I had a 2019 6.2 f250 and I tow about 8,000 lbs 4 times a week and it drunk gas like crazy. Due to the economy I was able to trade in the 6.2 and I found 2020 6.7 in Maryland and the note was only a $18 difference. The 6.7 only had 15,000 miles when I purchased, I think it was a sweet deal.

Thanks for the comparison. I wish the big 3 made around a 4 to 5 L diesel for an 250 and 350 like the do for the 3.0L for the half tons. A midsize diesel would be great for RVers where a 150 3.0L is too small and a 250 6.7 is overkill and don’t want a gasser.

Hi JB - BTW - as I mentioned a while back we purchased our 2020 F350 6.7L based on your video from Century Ford of a Tremor - we have a LB CC F350 FX4 and am I averaging 20.8 mpg right now (over 100 miles) driving around Maryland (ie: beltway, Rt.83, I70). We have the 3.55 and a Platinum with a heavy B&W 5th wheel hitch in the back. Towing we get 9-12mpg depending on speed and wind.

JB says he likes the fuel economy of the Power Stroke, but with diesel fuel costing $1.30 more than gas, it actually costs more to drive the Power Stroke! I looked up the average cost of gas and diesel in Atlanta on today's date, which is $3.45 for gas and $4.75 for diesel. Using the mpg figures achieved in this video at 13.8 mpg for the 7.3L and 18.1 mpg for the 6.7 Power Stroke on a 500 mile trip, it would cost, for gas, $125 to drive the Ford 7.3L Godzilla those 500 miles, while the Ford 6.7L Power Stroke would require $131.20 for diesel, even though it gets 4.3 mpg better mileage, according to this video. So the Power Stroke does cost more for fuel if these mpg figures hold up and the cost of gas and diesel stay the same. However, that doesn't take into consideration the additional $8,000 premium one pays upon purchase for that glorious, power chugging diesel engine, and all the required emissions controlling devices that may one day be the origin of its demise.

7.3 is an overall winner. Diesel is over 1.5 more/gal in NC and most places. With the 8-9K more to get the diesel up front plus the cost of maintenance, fuel and DEF you will never get your money back. I just watched a guy pull 27K with the 7.3 Godzilla and did pretty well. I think for the average person that it doesn't make sense to spend the extra money on the 6.7 Powerstroke.

Great video and comparison. I'm looking at 2023 F-350 and I'm really torn between the diesel and the 7.3. Gas is less expensive per gallon and operating/maintenance costs on the 7.3 will cost less over time. The diesel though with over 1k pounds of torque is very impressive and hard not to consider. I'll be using this truck to plow and tow a boat and a trailer occasionally none of which will come close to the maximum towing capacity or gvwr. Decisions, decisions.... Right now I'm leaning slightly towards the 7.3 since it will do everything I'll need it to and will be easier on the wallet.

Everyone concerned about fuel economy on a $70k to $90k truck. Funny stuff.

The proof is in the pudding most contractors are dumping their diesels and buying 7.3’s. If you work a truck hard and you’re not towing over 20,000 pounds 7.3 is the way to go. It’s gonna last longer it’s a lot easier to fix it does give you more payload capacity you don’t ever have to worry about being Derated and having 50 miles to go before you’re limited to 5 miles an hour.For someone who wants the ultimate power the 6.7 is always better.The real world is 7.3 only gets one to 3 miles per gallon worse than a 6.7 wait till the 6.7 goes to a regen cycle The mpg on that tank will drop. If you’re gonna drive it personally I understand the diesel but if you’re gonna let employees run it you’re way better off with a 7.3.

The only way if ram would be a true competitor if they put a 10 speed with the HO Cummins ☺️. But it would be amazing if ford bring back the 7.3 powerstroke as a Highout put v8 to put ram on its feet .

A measly 4 mpg advantage for $10k upcharge AND higher maint costs for life AND worse reliability? No thanks, definitely not worth it, especially if you don't really need the extra capability. I think a lot of non-commercial HD truck buyers just want bragging rights for all that torque, whether or not they actually need that much torque. I was seriously considering a F250 powerstroke to haul a slide-in camper, until I did the math on long term fuel and maint cost. The 7.3 makes far more sense to me.

I have a 2016 6.7, it tows my 7000 lb trailer effortlessly anywhere. Engine braking is a real plus. Yes cost of maintenance is high but a well maintained 6.7 can go a long way with minimal problems.

Owning a diesel now I could not, or would not ever go back to gas even if I wasn't towing.

In my further opinion, trade in or salvage price has to come into the equation: it's not just about fuel. Historically, diesels usually command a better resale probably because for the same displacement those engines will last longer. Is the 7.3 gas a game changer where it can last as long as the diesel? If not, then this mitigates some of the $8,000 difference.

Yes both transmission are the same, I love my 2020 6.7, and I get 23 mpg highway long trips empty. And the engine brake saves on tire brakes

To answer your transmission question. I believe Ford puts the same 10r140 transmission in the Super Duty trucks. As a side note regarding the extra cost of the diesel. First, most people aren't going to own it long enough to break even on the mpg difference. Plus you have more expensive oil changes, DEF, and fuel filters that need regular changing. Cost of ownership is higher. You will makeup the $10K price difference when you go to sell. You don't buy the diesel to save money. You buy it to work hard. I wouldn't go back to a gas just for the diesel engine brake, never mind the power.

With the price of fuel continuing to go up, that $8K upgrade price for the diesel getting ~4 mpg better mileage gets easier to swallow, even more so if you do a lot of towing.

Good stuff JB. I have been a "diesel guy" since 2002. Still have my 7.3 powerstroke, which has been bulletproof - unfortunately the rest of the truck has pretty much rusted away after 20 years in Wisconsin winters. Looking to buy a 2023 and have determined that the Godzilla is the way to go for me (IF I CAN GET ONE!) I am only hauling an approx.10-11,000# loaded fifth wheel and can't justify the huge extra cost of a new powerstroke, especially with the upside down diesel fuel prices and much higher maintence costs. When I first got into diesels the fuel cost was quite a bit lower than gas. That Godzilla big block with 4.30 gearing and 10 speed trans (same as powerstroke trans per Ford,) is a beast.

I love my Chevy 2020 6.6 gas 6 speed it will cheaper to rebuild 6 speed transmission then a 10 speed.

Good comparison bro! We are finishing up a 5k mile trip. Many many fill ups! Going through truck stop diesel lanes is easy with a fifth wheel. The few times we had to use a mom and pop gas place was a pain. ( me trying to stretch out a 31 gallon tank didn’t always work out lol) The ones that pull in toward the building are the worst. I don’t know how people who pull long tall loads frequently with gas engines do it. Although at one truck stop we did see an RV gas lane. So fingers crossed for the gasser crowd for fuel options. Also we followed a newer 7.3 F250 and long TT down the East exit of Yellowstone and he had to ride the brakes for 5 miles. There is no way I’d do gas and tow in real mountain terrain. Mpg is about range and cost for me.🇺🇸💪

Not having exhaust brakes while going downhill with a 12k trailer will make you regret that decision for every mile.

Always a great review, I like it because you favor no truck it seems. I have a 2022 Dodge quad cab diesel, HO, limited, mated with an Aisin transmission, 3.73 rear end dually. I wish I knew how my truck compares to others. I KNOW the diesel break is unmatched. I don't drive much and I probably should check out your video's to see if you done a number's test. THANKS, always love watching your video's.

$8,000.00 extra, and having to deal with DEF and all that other crap? I say the gasser is a better bet.

diesel costs more the maintenance is more im lowkey looking at ditching my diesel and thats why im looking.

You need to involve DEF with diesels. Money and the maintenance cost that you won’t ever see with a gas job. I am not a hater. My personal truck is a gas and my work truck is a diesel. I would never use a diesel as a daily driver. But I would use a gas truck as a work truck. Diesel are nice but they are expensive especially when you have a break down. I have a diesel mechanic that works for me so it’s not as bad.

7.3L w/ 3.55 gears is my choice.

6.7 0-60 test. Start with normal drive mode. Punch the stability/ traction button rapidly twice, It will ask if you want sport mode. Say ok. Then stomp on it!

QUESTION: What plows snow better gas or diesel???

great review. Just got a 2021 F250 Tremor 7.3

I think Ford trucks are nice and do a great job. I’m not a huge fan of the overall look tbh but I would get the diesel but that’s because I live near the Rockies and pulling up and down 6 & 7% grades this is a no brainer.

Great video sir! Thank you.👍🏼😎

Honestly the diesel is nicer. As a company truck I love it because I don’t have to pay for it’s service and fluids. If I was buying one. I would buy a 7.3 gas f550. When you putting 10,000-20,000 a month on a truck service prices kills you.

The diesel transmission has different clutch packs and a couple other minor differences than the gas Super Duty 10 speed. The gas SD 10 speed has almost nothing similar to the F150 10 speed. Sport mode does nothing for that 7.3. Put it in deep sand / snow with an unlnowing passenger and let her eat.

Umm buddy i hate to tell you but trans temp is one of the most important things when towing so it does matter

You definitely recoup the price difference when it comes to resale value.

👍👍I think it’s great that they let you drive them considering the price of fuel. I would rather have that older F-250 with the wooden side boards

Depends on your towing world…..if you are in construction or other similar job, yes, diesel is only way to go because you reflect the cost of a diesel into your services if your smart. As to the occasional tow of a RV or boat or even a trailer with a tractor or other equipment, the 7.3 far abounds in current day cost. Diesel will never come back in check. Factor in a diesel cost more to maintain then a quality diesel mechanic is like a heart surgeon, then you figure out why gas today is the no-brainer. Once again, no business to get the cost of a diesel back, go gas. I pull my fiver easily with my 7.3 gas with 3:55 gearing.

do you know the 6.7 also has sport mode?

The powerstroke isnt worth the extra money unless you are towing 18k+ daily. When you do a cost to break even the powerstroke will be wore out before that point.

I’ve owned 11 ford trucks and my 6.7 F-350 CC 176 wb is the Best

Ford gives more hitch weight when bumper pull with the diesel.

All get better mpg than my Tundra

7.3L GODZILLA Emblem Decals Badges... Finally found a company making 6 different Styles They have them for the Doors and Tailgate Found them on Ebay under 7.3L GODZILLA DECALS Badges

My 2020 f350 with aluminum work body is slow as fuck until it gets past 5th gear then it just rolls, pulling the 11k trailer makes no difference it still rolls.

What was the payload available for the gas vehicle? You showed the door sticker on the diesel only.

What's your ratings for each brand :) in Diesels

I'M STILLSHOPPING A 2000-2008 PETERBILT 386.

If your towing 12k and under pounds the 7.3 is the way to go

Gas engine truck has higher payload. I cant find any online info that the 7.3 is flex fuel, which I want.

Here diesel is only $0.30 more than 87 on average.

Wheels and tires on that thing are trash... some decent wheels and suspension upgrades would make this thing incredible!!

“I have to admit I really liked that ford” later that same day the transmission light came on see dealer haha 😂 just kidding. All jokes I love the old fords HD 95-2002 that’s it nothing after that. Just way to many issues after those years.

Century, the dealership that won’t deal.

Same transmission

my truck sucks at towing (PLEASE TEST DRIVE WITH TRAILER ATTATCHED BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT I MADE BEING STUCK WITH A 70 TO 90 THOUSAND DOLLAR TRUCK THAT SUCKS TOWING

I’m looking to go from gas to diesel and every video I see doesn’t give facts on maintenance

All you diesel fan boys are going to be hating that engine in the near future as the price of diesel keeps going up as national supplies continue to drop. Good luck.

Why would you be looking at new 2022 trucks if your worried about cost effectiveness between 2 motors? Just go find a 5 year old truck at that point lol.

The diesel will destroy it in any category besides price

Lol 6.7 is a beast until check dpf,scr, def fault lights. Modern diesels are trash unless you have a bottomless pocketbook or know how to fix them yourself. Over complicated junk designed to leave you stranded to "save the environment"

I rather take the diesel just because of the transmission. The 7.3 gas has had too many issues with the transmission. Only gas super duty I would get is the 6.2, it has a good engine & reliable 6 speed transmission, not that shitty ten speed.

Go back to drinking 40’s and playing dominos.

10K up charge, Maint, DEF, Particulate filters, Price of diesel kills the 4 MPG difference my opinion only. I like the diesel and there are probably people out there that have had zero problems with it, but I have never met one. And service after the sale. A buddy of mine had to make an appointment after having problems. closest appointment was about 6 weeks out. And lord the additives, service, filters, Water drain. Just too much! They towed the 2021 f 350 to ford. It was there almost 4 months for a turbo replacement. I think a 7.3 Platinum with 4.30 gears fits my situation. For the saved 8-10 grand I can buy a transfer tank for the bed to avoid gas stations. And I understand Transfer flow is about to come out with a 58-gallon replacement gas tank.

Just traded my 2020 F-350 7.3 for a 2020 Tremor with the 6.7 Power Stroke. The diesel rides better, towing my 10k travel trailer is much better with the diesel. I’m getting 4-5 mpg better towing and I’m getting about 20mpg on average not towing. I’m glad I traded up to the diesel.

Love my 7.3, never worry about emissions, short trips, or idling other than buying expensive fuel.

I did the math, 100K mile at 18.1 and also 13.8. I used 6per gal Die and 5 per Gal Gas. Will cost 3K more for gas. Break even point around 250K miles. The biggest difference for ME is the extra miles per tank and the extra torque. If you do not tow , the gas may be a better choice. Bottom Line - I think its great that Ford gives 2 good choices. Great video!!!.

Towing at load the issue. If unladen and short runs, gas all the way. If consistently laden and long highway runs, diesel. Gasser will have lower maintenance costs. Diesel will outlast gasser if well maintained and used a lot on the road

I have a 2021 F250 7.3 with 430's I pull a 41 foot 5th wheel, the trailer weighs 13,500 lbs fully loaded the truck is awesome I get 8.5 to 9 miles a gallon. I'm very happy with the truck

Good video JB! I really believe that it comes down to your intent, what you plan on using the truck for. As someone planning on pulling a travel trailer and just by observation I don’t believe a diesel is necessary (Though there are light weight 5th wheels that a 2500 diesel could pull, but so could a 2500 Gasser with a better payload). A 2500 Gasser would do the job just as well in my estimation! Knowing there will be a difference in fuel economy and power I would need to adjust in speed, route planning and other areas. No matter what you get the driver is going to compensate in order to equal things out as best as they could to maximize fuel. At this juncture I am undecided if the/my diesel is worth $8000-$10,000 more than a Gasser? Keep up the great videos!

Guess no brea-in period for them two trucks. When I got my F-250 with the 7.3 I fallowed the break-in period per the user manual. $57,000 is a lot of money and if you want to make it to 500,000 miles you better fallow the break-in procedure Diesel or gas.

The transmissions look the same but are different inside. Different converter and clutch pack to handle the torque of the diesel.

Nice video. Getting the 7.3. The cost benefit of the 7.3 is just too high. Would love that diesel, though. 😂

Remember, back in the day, many people used Cads, Lincolns, Buick Electras, (the 60s version of the Roadmaster), and Olds 98s to tow heavy trailers, and they were, of course, gassers.

I’m getting high 17’s mpg around town with my 21’ 6.7 f250 3.31 ratio. 12-13 mpg when I’m towing our 30ft TT. If I only do highway it’ll get 20-21mpg. The other positive is while towing I fuel at truck stops. Which makes longer trips with the camper a lot easier.

How much gas can you buy with a $8,000

I would go with the 7.3 gasser. This truck will be more than enough for the majority of the work required by 3/4 ton truck owners. Unless you are towing heavy for a living, this will easily tow your 5th wheel camper anywhere you need to go for the weekend warrior. Gas is much less expensive than diesel which cancels out a lot of the 6.7's fuel milage advantage as far as fuel costs per mile. Then there is the $8K additional price at purchase not to mention the added costs of diesel maintenance. Buy what makes you happy, but more $$ in my pocket makes me happy.

It is absolutely insane how much more it cost to repair and maintain a diesel than it does a big Ole v8 gas burner. I work for gm on the service side of things and I don't think I could ever own a modern diesel without warranty. They are amazing workhorses no doubt. But the big gm gas 3/4 ton and 1 ton literally never have big expensive maintenance bills, it's actually amazing because their 1/2 ton gas trucks are turds.

Diesel fuel is currently $2.20/gallon more than gas in NH, I had my bulk tank filled last week for $5.75/ gallon. My 2012 F 550 gets 10 MPG with the 6.7L diesel. I am thinking of replacing it with a 2023 F 600 with the 7.3L gas engine, which is the base engine.

In my opinion, unless you're towing 10,000 pounds or more, it's going to be rough to justify the cost of a diesel engine. If this were back in the year 2000 when diesel engines didn't have all this emissions crap, I wouldn't be so confident saying this. You also have to take the difference in the cost per gallon into account. We also have to know if the 7.3 requires high octane fuel which is over a dollar per gallon difference where I live in Chicago land. An algebraic equation Could be $G ÷ mpg = $D ÷ mpg Here on September 1st, 2022, the 7-Eleven gas station has 87 octane gas for about $4.37 and diesel fuel for about $5.29. there's county taxes in addition to state taxes and federal taxes which is why it's so expensive here. The MATH! 7.3L $4.37 ÷ 13 = 33.6154¢ per mile fuel cost 6.7L $5.29 ÷ 16 = 33.0625 per mile fuel cost. 33.6154 - 33.0625 = 0.5504. You have to drive a hundred miles just to save 55 cents. Now Read It and weep as the truth hurts: $8,000 extra money for the diesel engine ÷ 0.5504 fuel cost savings per mile = 1,453,488 miles to be driven to breakeven on the initial purchase price cost I'm not including running maintenance costs or salvage value cost end of life as a diesel engine may have a longer life. I'm just looking at the difference in fuel costs comparison to recover the $8,000 difference in engine price. .EDIT: I am reminded of the DEF situation too by those that have left comments on this video so that's going to further exasperate the break-even point for the diesel as now the diesel price per gallon must go up at the price of the DEF which is usually one gallon of DEzf per 40 gallons of diesel. And watch the diesel fuel mileage go down if you have to do a Regen.

I liked driving my 2020 F350 platinum powerstroke. It was a lot of fun and love the sound, but the other issues put me back into a Ram.

7.3 all day long. And it sounds better!

My Ram order has not moved in 3 months and I had no timeline for production. This gave me a chance to shop around and check out the other competitors. The minute I got into the cab and saw the backseat of the F350, my mind was made up. When Ram puts the 1500 cab on the HD's I will be back, but until then, I'm gonna run the Ford.

For towing torque counts, not horsepower. So the diesel is hands down the best tower. In addition, the higher fuel economy will help pay for the extra cost of the diesel over a lot of miles. However, that is not the determining factor if you are carrying, or towing, heavy loads. It's high torque that allows the truck to perform so well.

please pull a camper with both and see how crappoy fuel economy is i wanted a 2022 f250 diesel none were in stock i got gas f150 6mpg towing i disconnected my camper now getting 12mpg when i bought the truck i was hetting 18 to 22 mpg no camper my truck is a boat anchor