Finally! 😄 A Gasgas in your garage. Ashame you didn't try Gasgas when Gasgas actually owned them. Big difference in suspension. Love my KYB suspension. Love my 2019 EC300 Six Days. Had it since we talked on the phone a couple years ago.
@@DirtBikeChannel This is the no.1 bike brand in the class for me. But Im quite confused whether 2 stroke 300 or 4 stroke 250 is the much better option.
Mine had too low idle. I removed the throttle stop, with heat, and installed a m5 x 50mm screw with spring. Great results. Haven’t touched the air bypass or the PV yet. Mine has less than 10 miles so far. Wife surprised me with it for Christmas.
Hey Kyle. I have a 2021 version of the same bike in South Africa, which I've now done close to 100 hours on. I ride it mainly in extreme rocky conditions. I chose the Gas Gas after test riding the 2021 Husky and KTM XCW. I've owned 8 KTM 300 XCW's so I know the 300 well. The Gas Gas just felt the most right for me out the box, I love the ergonomics and it's certainly a more wieldy machine. Strangely it has it's own distinct feel despite being a sum of KTM and Husky parts. Even the motor has a different, more playful feel to it. The bike turns beautifully, while I often didn't like the KTM's tendency to push the front and understeer. This is my first linkage bike though and I find the rear end more compliant than on the PDS KTM system, providing better traction in loose conditions. There was a cost saving in the Gas Gas, true it doesn't get hand guards and a few other bits, but those tend to be things I replace on any bike anyway. So the cost saving was real for me. I have changed the forks to have bump adjustment on the bottom of both forks and rebound on the top of both, along with tuning the shims a bit for initial plushness in the terrain I ride. Hands down this is my favorite bike I've ever owned, I'll definitely buy another one when I wear this one out.
Rieju bikes (ex-Gasgas) have such a better suspension when you`re riding agressive or faster! Have a bike with WP suspension (same as KTM suspension), and have another with Kayaba, today swaped between them the whole day in big mountains, and Kayaba are sooooo much better when riding hard!
Heck yeah! These are badass bikes! I’m still sad that KTM bought them out though because now they are basically just another colour of KTM like what happened to Husaberg/Husqvarna instead of being unique to it’s brand. I helped a friend pick out an ‘07 EC300 as her first full-size bike, and got to take it for a rip last weekend. Within minutes I was in love with how the bike felt and performed on the trail! Felt more playful and addicting compared to the bland feel of an ‘06 300XC that I rode, yet the GasGas performs as good if not better!
My son bought a 21 in may this year and we went to family vacation for 2 weeks in June at Hatfield and McCoy trails and he loves that bike myself I ride an 05 ec300 and the weight difference is crazy love the new style even tho I’ll never part with my 05 I’m considering the 22 to add to my collection but it doesn’t really seem to matter what year 300 gg it is they’re fun to ride and haul ass!!!!
I'm excited to see more on this bike. Part of me is hoping that KTM will allow Husky and Gas Gas to expand past their base models. I want to see more difference. (As long as that difference is providing some value)
hey Kyle, just wondering: when you swaped the wheels, did you instal the new brake discs, or are you running the ones that were on your old set of wheels? that can make quite a bit of diference in braking power and brake feel. thx for all you do, it IS hard work! 👍
I prefer the last version of old Spanish GasGas. The new GasGas an awesome bike but it’s just another flavor of Orange. The old 18-20 GasGas were so good.
Hmm... Where GasGas cuts costs to make them less expensive than the KTM & Husky line??? Brakes & Wheels.. I only say that because I was looking into GasGas as a future option. Near I can tell they opted for a generic wheel over DID or Giant. Now I noticed on there website they offer a DID wheel as a power parts style upgrade. Obviously for a cost.
I picked up a 22 EX300 and its pretty awesome bike, it has the Brembo hydraulics. My only complaint so far is the choppy spot in the power curve right before the powerband hits. feels like its loaded up for a second.
@@StabEDealin The power band hits later than I would prefer so Im going to tinker with the power valve adjustment. Im hopping the powerband will hit before the choppy spot or at least reduce it.
@@bikejunky4816 install the idle screw and red power valve spring and go 1mm from flush . My bike was a dog and I didn’t enjoy it at all until I did this. The TSP high comp head and mapping was the icing on the cake.
I know the Kyle pays for these bikes out of his own pocket so I understand why he can't do what I'm proposing, but I'd really like to see him test a few boutique bikes. The AJP 310 and 510, The SWM 300 and 500 and the Reiju lineup
Dude, my father owns an AJP PR5 250 2018 and it is definitely the least reliable bike we have ever owned. I have a 2020 ktm tpi, my brother rides a husky fe350 2017... I have owned and ridden quite a few beta rr300's , ktm's and many more. The ajp isn't a real deal. All it is is a hobby rider bike. It just doesn't cooperate quite as well. It is way too heavy. The fuel injection that they use isn't set up properly. It has had multiple problems... It stall way too easy etc... I definitely wouldn't buy another ajp. Few years back we owned an ajp pr3 125 4stroke. Of course that was underpowered beginner bike but it was very reliable. Zero issues whatsover unlike the new ajp's... Even our local ajp dealer has had nothing but problems with new ajp's... Basically the dealer hates the bikes that he sells... and btw we bought both of the ajp's new. Those weren't used bikes. I hate to bash on bike brands but the new AJP's are crap. I would rather buy a used ktm with 300hours than having to deal with all the ajp issues...
@@Dashriprock4 yes, I know😬. It is weird but anyways those are not race bikes by any means. You'll be better off with a used ktm if you care about performance.
@@andrejskamla9736 the new AJP is being marketed as a more racy bike. They're using the old Italian Husqvarna big block motor which is absolutely bomb-proof. SWM is building those engines and Italy now and I'm sure they have their mapping figured out. And for someone like me who is almost 60 years old I'm not really interested in a race bike as much as I am a good trail bike. And honestly I'm not very impressed with my most recent KTM. Their build quality seems to be going backwards. My old Italian Husqvarna from 2008 was put together better..
Hey Jeff. I hear you. He's the rub though.... I've never even seen any of those bikes with my own eyes in real life in over 10 years in this sport. Not one time. So the main question there is How Many People would Benefit from a review on those bikes? Very few.... so I keep to the main bikes for the most part.
Love your thoughts and assessments. (I have often wished for a few of your thoughts at the end of every video.) Keep up the good work and leaving a single track.
I also found my 2021 Gas Gas 250ec to be very nimble and rides like it's on rails when I first rode it feels just like a smaller bike, and being new to TPI can't believe how linear the power is.
As always, great video (/first impressions review), but just another KTM bike (Gasgas now is just a red KTM, with some minor different details), what`s the purpose of comparing (/reviewing) always the same bikes? Would be awesome to test other brands!
He usually puts a poll out with a selection of bikes to vote on and he picks whatever wins. Sadly this won out on the last poll over some very interesting bikes that don't have much info already. It's a bit frustrating that so many people voted for this when there's already heaps of reviews out there for it and it really is just another ktm clone
@@bbmoti no issues with the clutch, but sometimes the motor would run on without me twisting throttle, with was bad down severe Rock descents, I think this is sorted , now 20hrs on the clock
@@Cross-Country-Biker thanks, i have less then an hour on it, and have a clutch drag. I need to pull the clutch all the way in and still have a bit of dragging
FI 2-smoker? Very cool. Response has to be incredible. Tryin get a '22 Gas Gas 250F out bere..not easy! Got a dep @my dealer. Waiting patiently in Ohio.
The Braktec is actually better than a lot think. Just cuz it isn’t brembo, these things are on trials bikes and that extra feel of play is honestly plush, riding a ktm back to back and the brembo bite was jarring me around, The braktec’s progression is smoother.
Great video, I prefer F brakes that aren't as strong, I only use them to wash off a little speed. Check the triple clamps, may its like the XC with a 20 d offset instead of a 22 on the EX-W? that would account for it being more nimble ?
You got a new bike in the garage, congrats!! I didn't know the EC had linkage. What gasGas is like an XC? To save from sending you an email, can you just mention the general riding area? I haven't been there before. Big thanks for the video's!!
Hi, I have the 250 4 stroke Gasgas. You could try the brembo brake pad. It is not an expensive change and the brake tech Ith just the brembo pad is really great!
Nice bike, i was curious about the brakes differences. Do you think the low idle will get better as the engine brakes in? My '22 250xc seemed to get better as i got a few more hrs on it, but that could be placebo effect of me just getting used to it?
Man I hope so. I got a ‘22 te300 and it’s definitely got a low idle too. Once it’s warm it’s fine, but cold it likes to die. And I’ve got the BrakeTech front and rears as well, once I adjusted the clickers I really enjoyed them over my old Nissin setup. Honestly though, hard to find anything wrong with these new bikes.
@@StabEDealin I did the slavens idle screw and adjusted the powervalve out about flush, it’s a completely different bike now. I did have to replace the crank case pressure sensor at 40 hours though which sucked. Love the bike though.
hi from greece! so what about us poor guys? please do a mid zeros bikes shoutout. i believe these old ones still hang good in there and also theyre kinda unsung heroes cause back then we only had magazines. it would be cool to see your pov on this and to share your thoughts about how far we went from then!
Just curious why you never try 450s. I know they can be a handful in the woods. But a mellow tune on a cross country or trail style 450 is still very manageable especially on the newer ones I enjoy my 2022 yz450fx a ton. Granted I’ve only had it for a little while, time tells all. But it’s surprisingly easy to ride especially for a 450. I’ve already spent some time on single track. Crazy thing is it doesn’t feel much heavier than my old 250F. I enjoy it, especially out in the desert.
I just sold my 6th yz450f and all i have ever riden in is the bush , i think they are awesome for the sticks , bit of a hand full but great fun , have been thinking about the 22 4t0fx but im leaning towards a gas gas ec 300 just for something different, do you like your fx ?
@@sethmurphy531 yeah ok , i might get the ec 300 , just come good from having my hip replaced from the last stack 2 years ago, im 43 and my body has copt a flogging over the years, was thinking about the weight of the 300 and im so used of having the 450 grunt when i jump on a 250 its like a pee wee 80 , being 2 stroke ill be happy with the power , gas gas it's going to be ive made up my mind ... stay safe brother 🤙🏻🇦🇺
@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 yeah from what I’ve heard those 300s are very forgiving and easier to ride in. If you just had a hip replacement I’d say definitely go that route. A 450 is super easy to grab to much throttle. I hope you enjoy it my friend. ✌️🇺🇸
@@sethmurphy531 i used to buy a new yz450f every 2 years and i got to 2017 and I could not part with it it was the best handling bike ive ever riden , there were that many times that i should have come of but i didn't and i cant remember whan map it had but this thing ripped hard , real hard and I was worried about updating and getting a bike that wasn't any good so i kept it for roughly 4 years and it didn't miss a beat or let me down once and i sold that probably 2 months ago it was getting to the point where it needed a rebuild and I threw it on gumtree and got $6300 for it i was wrapped, im ordering a new gg ec300 , maybe even a 2023 , less weight, electric start which is great after a hip replacement 🤣😂 , maybe a renewed energy riding a 2 stroke , riding is my life its my antidepressant , i bleed blue but they don't make a 300 , great chatting to you mate , happy riding and put plenty of hours on the fx ... stay safe 🤙🏻🇦🇺
The brakes should be tested more. I’ve had brembo’s and magura’s that are super strong and then some that are weak. I think it depends how well they’ve been assembled and bled from the factory/shop/dealer. (Whoever does it). Go from bike to bike at the dealership and you’ll feel different brake lever resistance on the same models side by side. The softer levers won’t stop as well.
Interesting you mentioned not loving the braketek brakes. The IRC tire guy on RU-vid says the same thing. I wonder why Gas Gas put Braketek on the EC, but kept Brembo on the EX series.
Thank gas gas when u accidentally stab the front brake and your still upright a little buffer is no problem better than being on your face haha I know from experience prob some adjustments would smooth it out thanks for the vid Kyle almost got my ktm back up and running ….. live to ride ride to live
On this Gas Gas ec300 or ex, would you choose it over the KTM 300xc or xcw. Just would like your personal opinion on this matter. Yes,I definitely need something that will go distance with little or the normal maintenance. Although, I would love to have the TPI. With this said, you probably think the Gas Gas would be the one for me so if you would please give me some feedback on this... Keep the good ride up Kyle
I was going to buy a real Gas Gas but not a KTM clone, don’t get me wrong one of the bikes a ride is a KTM SX 250 and I love it, but I’m going to buy the bike my son has a Beta 300 rr Race.
I'm with you. I was more interested in GasGas before the KTM merger. I'm on record saying that. The reason I've bought this bike is because I've had OVERWHELMING requests for it.
@@DirtBikeChannel I can appreciate that. I guess I am just grumpy with KTM as a company after having a last gen Husabeg, a 2013 Husqvarna and now having a 2018 GasGas. They keep buying and killing off the brands I like.
Cut priced ktm - not that its a bad thing. I wish a manufacturer would do a "build your own bike". It would be easy in this day and age of the internet. Think about it, I want a gasgas 300, but I don't want the forks, wheels, triples, front brake as I will be upgrading these parts anyway. Order the bike in this form and have it delivered to the dealer. Or up spec it online with hard parts and have it delivered in that form - minus the original cost of what ever stock parts you're not getting.
That’s a great looking bike. Kyle I’d like to see more kid 4 stroke bike reviews. I got 5 and we just bought the family their 1st bikes. Honda CRF250F, CRF125B, CRF125, YCF88st, YCF50s, YCF50S, and a Honda CRF50.
I think it’s a smaller rider Cockpit that makes the bike feel smaller. - I know the Sherco have a smaller cockpit which makes the bike feel a bit small
Great review. Ive been waiting for a new Gas Gas 300 review. Love this channel from Australia 🇦🇺. Can I still win the bike as a giveaway?. Willing to travel and get any necessary shots etc.... 😃
Hey Kyle could you do/ try to do a review on a husqvarna wr300, it might be hard to get your hands on lol, but I wanna know your opinion on the old huskys vs the ones.
The later year italian WR250 and 300 were years behind in development. Very old engine, old frame and so on. Absolutely not bad bikes but not up to par with other bikes from the same era. The Huskys with the new chassis from 2008-2009 forwards were brilliant (125 2T, 250-310 4T). I have a WR125 from 2012 and I would strongly recommend that over their 250/300 2T. If going for a 300 I would at least try the GasGas (Made in Spain) from 2013-forward. Such a easy to ride bike with linear, trials like power.
@@henripuustinen4642 yeah in getting a 2013 wr300 this weekend and I was just wondering how they would compare to the new ktm huskys, I think that if ktm didn't have brought husqvarna they would have become a rival to ktm in enduro and mx
I will take one of these reviews (this is not a bad review per se) of a new "GasGas" seriously only when it is compared to an "old" spanish GasGas/Rieju. Otherwise it's a comparison between parts in the KTM parts catalog. Compare price (when new). Compare components on the bikes when bone stock. Compare feel of the bikes. Compare suspension. KTM does so much good on their bikes. They feel good, quality feels good, they push technology forwards etc. But that doesn't take away the facy that these, and the new Huskys, are basically graphics kits with linkage and evolutionary cAst tRipLe cLamPs.
