Sam, great drag race comparison. Best channel on RU-vid period! Very diversified and super interesting~! I love the direction you are taking the channel. Thanks for the continued fantastic no bull content. You're doing a great job! Knocking on the door of 100K Subs! Well done brother. Happy Holidays.
I have a Honda black addition i also know how my vehicle very well and you said maybe one of them will fail, but I know my vehicle enough to know it’s not gonna fail and I would beat that vehicle that you’re in the Hyundai anytime anywhere in Eco sports mode
Yeah, wtf are they thinking. Saw a commercial for my motorcycle, an NC750X, a mild adventure bike. I bought it to commute and light touring with it's great storage compartment and average 70+mpg. The commercial showed it charging over mountains, going to the beaches with hot babes, etc. But, salesmen are crap.
@@Broxty 4 mountain bikes, trail riding with whole family couple times a week. Don't need the bumpy ride of body on frame truck, unibody construction of Ridgeline ride like a suv.
The Honda Ridgeline is built in Lincoln, Alabama and the Hyundai Santa Cruz is built in Montgomery, Alabama, you just watched a drag between two Alabama made trucks.
@@BigBoy-ur8oq actually they are. If you knew anything about the Asian auto makers is that they use more American sourced parts than the big three because they are concerned about quality. The big three source parts anywhere that they can get it for a cheaper price. It’s the reason why the Asian auto makers have better reliability than American cars
The Santa Cruz 4th gear around 40mph is the money spot, Santa Cruz owner. Also turn of traction control major difference in take off. Hyundai has an amazing traction control system which limits the get up and go off stop lights.
It’s interesting to me to see the Ridgeline build torque early and then it flattens out so by the time the Santa Cruz gets through the turbo lag and starts building power it’s over for the Ridgeline. Great channel I enjoyed this.
As outdated as the Ridgeline interior is, I'd pick the Ridgeline's interior over SC interior all day for the better ergonomics. Ridgeline has real switches for climate controls, not that capacitive crap.
A lot of people confuse "turbo lag" on modern vehicles for what is really happening. Manufacturers use turbos so small that they spool up in an instant and with a brake boost start some boost is already there. The computer actually brings boost on very slowly intentionally in 1st gear to help with traction and limit drivetrain abuse. Its easily seen using an OBDII scanning tool. You might be giving the vehicle 100% throttle but the computer tells it only 40% then slowly builds up.
This is true. I have a 2023 Sorento with the same engine/transmission and it absolutely limits torque in 1st gear. As soon as it shifts in to 2nd gear, you can feel it pull much harder, and I have an OBD2 data logger to confirm this. If Hyundai/Kia offered a launch control mode on these vehicles, which let you build boost off the line and didn't limit torque, the Sant Cruz and Sorento would do 0-60 in the mid 5's I'm guessing. Alas, these aren't sports cars and they are tuned for comfort and reliability, so I can't complain. 0-60 in the low 6's is still pretty darn fun.
@@carlohenley4044 I have 23 X Line Sorento , You are correct that thing is really fun to drive for what it is, ONLY 4 cylinder and 3rows of seats!!!!!!😆😆😆😆🤣🤣that's funny as hell to me, Times have changed I love my v8s but 4 cylinder are not what they used to be,SIGNS OF THE TIME.
@@ZzCobra0816zZ yep. Honda has some of the most intrusive "nannies" to make the car more stable, less likely to spin tires etc. Just being electronic throttle does not mean it is slow to respond. An e throttle can be made to move just as quickly as one attached by a cable. OEMs (especially conservative ones) just tend not to set them up that way.
@@SiriasisOFFICIAL I’m confident the odyssey will be the quickest. Long as they get the wheel spin under control which should be very easy lol. 10 speed auto is wonderful and it does 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and 1/4 mile at 95 mph no other van currently can match that. a base model Pacifica fwd or the 3.5 V6 sienna with the 8 speed will come close but no closer than within a couple tenths
@@Broxty Haha yet you are watching this video. My 06 Ridgeline just clocked 390k miles with no issues, just picked up a new 24 edition and expect the same. It towed my 21' fiberglass walleye boat every year to Canada, went 16 years elk hunting in Montana and towed more trailers of oak than I can count. All my buddies with 150's and 250's always wanted to ride in the Ridgeline on longs trips because of the ride quality and gas mileage. I love comments from uneducated people like you that know nothing about the usefulness of a vehicle. Garbage, yeah 400k miles nearly with nothing but proper maintenance, you sir are a boob.
That 3.5 vtec defies logic. The RL is less aerodynamic, heavier, has less power, less torque, slower shifting transmission, and yet it still beats the SC all the way up to 75mph or so when the SC passes. Absolutely nuts.
Brake torque a DCT that doesn't have launch control built-in and it'll dump the revs once you release the brakes to preserve the transmission especially on Hyundai Kia products with the long warranty
@@Frank-hg9rl DCTs are great for quick shifts, but they seem to have problems launching well from a standstill, especially when coupled with a laggy 4 banger turbo. I haven't heard much about launch problems with other brands who use DCTs though, so It could be related to manufacturer tuning, since the Kia K5 GT and Hyundai Sonata N-Line have similar launch issues, using basically the same engine and transmission as the Santa Cruz. Maybe they're tuning it to prevent hard launches for warranty purposes. That Ridgeline has one more gear than the Hyundai too, so it may have a steeper ratio 1st gear that helped it get out of the hole better.
@@chuckd7423 You're right. That's why they introduced the "wet " DCT exactly to prevent that problem. Those who have like me the old 7 speed version of it know about it. Some guys, to have quicker launch hold the brake to rev the engine. But even iif Hyundai/ Kia limit the rev exactly to prevent the friction pad to over heat, you can smell the odour of over heat....The new wet dct is much more résistant to that, they even introduced a launcb control that you can ajust the rev.For example, take the Veloster N, it has a 0-60 time of 4.8 versus 5.6 with the manual...
@@pcthayer I'd like to see that comparison too. I think the turbo AWD Maverick and turbo AWD Santa Cruz would compare pretty closely on acceleration, but I suspect the Maverick might do better off road. The Santa Cruz doesn't seem to have very good traction in off road situations, but that could probably be improved with some software tweaks. For some reason, the U.S. version of the Santa Cruz isn't equipped with multiple off road modes, while versions outside of the U.S. are. The AWD Maverick has 5 different drive modes, and if you add the reasonably priced FX4 package, it adds 3 more modes designed specifically for off road use. That may be something Hyundai wants to get rectified, since the SC has performed poorly with distributing power to wheels with traction in off road situations. The Ridgeline also has a more sophisticated AWD system than the SC and does much better in off road situations.
@@chuckd7423 The Maverick, if you add the tow package ($745 U.S.) you also get the "upgraded drive ratio" which should give you better 'off the line' acceleration.
Tell ya what... Ive had mine for more then a month. 2liter Ecoboost AWD....and I've beaten everyone of my friends V8 powered FORD and DODGE¡!!!. 8 gears and great gearing,its QUICK You'll be shocked when ya get one. Cant wait until they make a flash for it like the BRONCO SPORT😎
The Ridgeline is not meant to be a fast truck. Honda made it for durability and to turn over 300K. Let’s see how many miles the Hyundai will turn over lol
@@CaptainFALKEN Of courseToyota is king overall. We’re comparing a Honda to a Hyundai though. Honda’s are also reliable. They just haven’t made a huge footprint in the truck market. The Toyota Tacoma is the light duty truck to beat in my opinion.
Well the turbo won't make it to 300k that's for sure . Hyundai has had some successful engines though . I drive a gen 1 ridgeline and I wouldn't trade it for the world . Well maybe now that we have 1.70 gas coming. ⛽️ wake up canada stop poisoning the kids while your at it . Smh
@@mr.jingles7540 Seriously? We’re talking about Honda! The same engine as the Pilot and MDX and 6cyl Accord. . You still see those cars on the road around 15 - 20 years old. I’m not talking about people who abuse their vehicles. The timing belt on my Ridgeline has been changed twice and still running strong . I’m at at 296K right now. I guess you think their K24 4cyl isn’t bulletproof either?
Well The Honda engine is one of the most reliable engines in the world. Also the Ridgeline has 7% more interior space and 22% more cargo space. Not in the same class
@Turnt ! i agree with you. Even though I own a Honda Passport, I do believe that if honda and toyota keeps banking on their past success Hyundai will take over. I only bought the Honda Passport cause the Telluride was selling above MSRP . . . . That says a lot in my opinion
@@hassansmw5634 The Santa Cruz is as much a truck as the Ridgeline. It's basically just a smaller version of the Ridgeline, with similar tow and payload capabilities, but with a smaller bed and a slightly more powerful engine.
3.8 is not displacement but I get your point. You forgot to point the T word. turbo. And there is also a 500+ weight difference. I’m not a Honda apologist , love all cars but your comment is a little out.
@@9663mu It's 3.5L. And if it's not a displacement then what do you call it? Casual! It's not a huge displacement but it's still a displacement. 0.1L is still called a displacement. 🤣 The adage refers to a huge displacement compared to a much smaller displacement (but usually with forced induction). 😏
My prediction is: From a standing start, it's a toss up, but from a roll, the quicker shifts of the Santa Cruz's DCT will be the determining factor. That said though, the SC isn't really even classified as a mid-size truck. Still really looking forward to this one.
What makes a Honda Ridgeline, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, Jeep Gladiator, Ram 1500, and Ford Ranger a midsize truck, but not a Hyundai Santa Cruz? Is it because it’s bed and cargo is much smaller? Or maybe a marketing thing or a weird legal quirk similar to how many SUV’s are listed as Station Wagons?
@@SilverScarletSpider The Santa Cruz has 22% less cargo space than the Ridgeline and 48% less cargo space than the Frontier. The cargo area is tiny on the Santa Cruz.
@@SilverScarletSpider The Santa Cruz is considerably smaller in every dimension than the Ridgeline, or any other midsize truck, such as Tacoma, Frontier, Colorado, or Canyon. Aside from the much smaller bed, it's at least a foot shorter in length than midsize pickups. The only place the Santa Cruz is somewhat competitive in size with some of the midsize pickups is in interior space, and that's at the expense of bed length. The new Ford Maverick is similar in size to the Santa Cruz, and will be a direct competitor.
I will take HONDA reliability, & I can't believe I'm saying this but, torque. I feel like the Ridgeline to be faster in the real world because on the Dig races the Santa Cruz didn't even pass the Ridgeline till 135k an hour or so. That's over 80 mph here in the US and no truck should be going that fast anyway in normal conditions
@@Pyroo0 if it's just dirt, snow, and mud the Ridgeline can keep up or even pass any others. Just upgrade to an awesome set of ATT. If it's Rock or River go Jeep or Taco.
I like the fact that Hyundai has added port injection along with their GDI so carbon build up on the valves should not be a problem when the miles are racked up.
That lens the question, Is there a mileage/hour interval that the cylinder should be removed and serviced, and is that half-life of the bearings. Don't remember that condition ever being debated on automobiles, but is required on most small airplane engines.
i really liked this, i still want the honda even though its slower... but it was nice to see where it stood next to something with a better power to weight ratio.
Great video!! 🔥🔥 Not surprising results though, considering the fact that the Honda weighs more by few hundred pounds and naturally aspirated. Would love to see a brake test from 60 to 0.
I wouldn't call a vehicle technologically advanced when the AWD system is very dumb. The iVTM-4 found in the RL is in another level. The SC is getting stuck in places that an RL will walk out.
The iVTM-4 is exactly the same as Acuras SH-AWD. The original VTM-4 was horrible so they used Acuras technology on the newer generation. That said, yes it's a good AWD system but it's mainly designed for pavement, not off-road.
@@xfiringsquadx, please tell us what was so horrible about VTM-4? It's STILL superior to Hyundai's H-TRAC system which is just another single-clutch AWD system with an open rear differential.
@@zroger73 Wow, RU-vid autodelete is impossible these days 🤦♂️. If you check your email, you'll see my deleted response. Long story short, overheating.
@@xfiringsquadx the vtm-4 the gen 1 has is much better off road than the 2nd gen, if I recall it has a type of locker that only works till maybe 30mph whereas the AWD does way way better on road. If you want to take your Gen 2 further off road replace the OEM trans cooler with a mishimoto.
@@sunshineruffio8071 This is true. Issues aside, it definitely outperforms iVTM-4 off-road since that's what it was designed for. It's a shame they couldn't come up with a second version that was better rather than renaming SH-AWD for a Honda application. Not that SH-AWD isn't good, it just wasn't designed with off-roading in mind.
I own a 10 year old Hyundai Genesis sedan with a 4.6 385 hp V8 and a 6 speed automatic. It's never been to the dealer or any shop for repairs, and the only things I've changed out on it are tires, brake pads, battery, and windshield wipers. It's probably the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, and the most comfortable driver, with all of the factory bells and whistles anyone could want in a vehicle, and everything still working like new.
Maybe 10 years or more. My 07 Honda Pilot is a true statement to that. Nothing against Hyundai, I believe they have come a long way and are very innovative. Same for KIA the offer a lot more value for the money.
@@chuckd7423 Genesis is the top of the line. Genesis should have more quality because is a competitor of luxury cars. Now, how many Sonatas/Accents 2010 are on the streets? Check how many (Camrys/Corollas, Accords/Civics) 2010?
Ridgeline is still the better truck in every way that matters. Front seat room is way better, you even get your own armrest. Back seats are roomier and more comfortable AND the back seat storage is way better with the seats flipped up. The bed is longer, wider, AND has no wheel arches eating up space. The door-swing tailgate, nuff said. Even the in-bed trunk is twice as big. The price isn't even that far apart. A top line Cruz = RTL trim - within a few thousand dollars. - Look, I WANTED to like the Cruz. In fact the Ridgeline wasn't even on my shopping list. Than I saw the Cruz in person. Dam, that bed is tiny. I'm sure there's a few people out there that will find it 'fuctional', but coming from a 6' Ford Ranger bed - I won't be one of them. I think back to the last 20 years of pickup ownership - and the tiny Cruz bed would have let me down at least 75% of the time. You seriously need to see both in person before getting excited about the Cruz.
@bikebudha01 no doubt the honda is a real truck. But as far as looks it's so damn blah. The santa cruz isn't a real truck but it is good for what most people need. And even though it isn't some people's cup of tea. I think it's a cool looking vehicle
I am happy to see the comparison but this is not a midsize battle. These are completely different sized vehicles. The Ridgeline is more than a foot longer and 700 lbs heavier.
While I agree with you that the Santa Cruz is not a midsize truck, the weight difference between the top spec models of each vehicle is around 350 pounds, not 700 pounds. Ridgelines are all AWD equipped with similar weight, but the Santa Cruz offers a non-turbo, FWD version that's around 400 lbs lighter than their turbo AWD model. The FWD Santa Cruz with the non turbo engine might be 700 lbs lighter than the Ridgeline, but that's not the model that was used in this video comparison.
@@chuckd7423 you are correct. I was looking at the weight of the fwd non turbo. I am surprised that there is only a few hundred pound weight difference.
@@Bevo_Baker Honda reliability has been out of top 10 for quite sometime (more than 5yrs) now while Hyundai has been in the top 10 for more than 6yrs now. Honda quality and reliability is nowhere near Hyundai so much more with Toyota. Honda quality and reliability is just average.
@@xfiringsquadx the Ridgeline HPD is just trim items, wheels and decals. Still the same engine and Trans as the other trims. But the HPD still looks good.
9 out of 10 times, i prefer good acceleration over top speed when doing some harrowing pull onto a highway in front of traffic. Good comparison though.
Fun comparison. Personally I will always go for the reliability of a normally aspirated engine, and those DCTs are usually a problem waiting to happen. The other factor is what you need / want the vehicle to do, i.e. do you need a higher towing or heavier payload capacity etc.
@@kuffdaddy3511 Only if you option the Hyundai with the turbo. The other big factors would be bed size and passenger room. Also, even with similar towing capacity that turbo with dct will overheat long before the Ridgeline.
@@allentoyokawa9068 It's a Harbor Freight vehicle. It breaks you just return it with the warranty and get a new one 🤣 I'm sure they are disposable after 10 years but so is everything else on the road. Enjoy what you drive man, there are options for all of us.
@@allentoyokawa9068 the only comments you have ever posted have been hating on Hyundai vehicles on your RU-vid channel 🤣 I'm so sorry for the life you live bahahahaha
I recently received my whits SC Limited. Personally I feel white is the best color for the Santa Cruz. It's SURPRISINGLY quick from a roll. From a dig hyundai has programmed the launch so that it preserves the dct. It won't do any hard launches. But whatdouknow. It ain't a race car. I used to own a MK7 GTI and the Santa Cruz accelerates even harder than it when passing cars on the freeway.
Awesome matchup. I was wondering how the new Santa Fe would perform and I’m pretty impressed. It would’ve perfect if it didn’t have that turbo lag at the beginning, but can have it all at that price range.
Be nice to see you guys swap vehicles and repeat the tests, due to different driving styles, reaction times etc... Thanks for the tests, that Santa Cruz looking intriguing.
Regarding the lag, I don't own a Santa Cruz as yet. Trying to decide between the Limited & SEL Premium that is available here in US. But, I do own (wife's vehicle) a 2022 Santa Fe Limited with the same 2.5T engine & 8 speed DCT. It does not appear to have any lag at the line whatsoever! I thought I wanted a Honda Ridgeline for myself until I bought our Santa Fe - and my wife let me drive it some! I thought the 2.0T in our 2015 Santa Fe was fast - but the 2.5T paired along with the 8 speed DCT - I am like WOW! Auto Engine Stop (override) switch - I simply can't understand why Hyundai did not incorporate this into the Santa Cruz! Just like this drag race presentation - there are simply times I just don't want the engine to stop! Then, there are other times - especially when giving a fast-food order - that I want the feature. With that said, I am just going to keep driving my current truck and wait another year and hopefully Hyundai will incorporate this feature and also realize their short-coming regarding the passenger seat adjustments (Santa Fe Limited has 8-way power adjustment for driver and passenger) - AND PUT THE DAMN KNOBS BACK ON FOR THE INFOTAINMENT CENTER!
I feel very confident that after 6 years of ownership, the Honda is going to be in much better condition than the Hyundai. Honda is just a better engineered vehicle. IMHO.
Hi bro. Sam Nice explnation about the two cars and excellent drag race u done .. My suggestion to add Braking and horn sound to your test .. Funally thanks a lot for your efforts and best regards Hyn. & Gen. Fanboy ❤️
Here’s one thing people don’t into account. Reliability. I work on cars for a living and believe me when I tell you Hyundai and Kia make extremely unreliable engines. Turbo and GDI is a horrible combo.
I'm pretty sure this new 2.5 turbo engine from Hyundai and Kia uses a combination MPI/GDI injection system. That should help with the GDI issue of carbon buildup, and Hyundai says the combination injection system also helps to optimize overall performance and efficiency.
Maybe we all have our versions of being beating by a lot . A close race is less than a car length in my opinion. Mind you the 2.5t Santa Fe has a sub 6 sec 0-60 with the htrac
I always race my Black Edition against my Volvo S60 R Design (2T) with hopes that it becomes a racing car and not the mega high quality all rounded it is…. 😂
I'm pretty sure this two trucks are not in the same category so it's a very unfair match-up The Ridgeline interior is as big as a full size truck in my opinion feels bigger than my ram 1500 quad cab
Still shopping... still like the Ridgeline better... the bed is a foot longer and the Santa Cruz loses an additional inches at the bed top.... plus the in-bed cargo box it at least twice as big.....
Have had both trucks, currently on the 2024 Santa Cruz and it has way more torque off the line than the Ridgeline. Not sure if it is the difference in years but the 2024 Turbo has way better power.
I realize that the "winner" of the race is the Santa Cruz. However, IMO turbo lag is the worst Achilles heel when you get yourself into a driving situation where you need to get up to speed and out of the way quickly to avoid a collision. We might have moments where we accidentally pull out in front of oncoming traffic that is driving quicker than we may have realized, etc - and turbo lag is not what you want to occur in those precious few seconds after hitting the accelerator.
I still think ridgeline is faster, it is much quicker to accelerate from the stop, when Santa Cruz catches up, Ridgeline is probably already at 60 MPH, after 60 MPH, it’s not too relevant.
If you're only concerned with how fast the trucks reach 60 mph from a standing start, that might be true, but not many people will be drag racing their trucks from a stop, so I don't see that as very relevant. Because of it's lighter weight and more powerful engine the Santa Cruz will accelerate faster than the Honda after they're both rolling, and that better acceleration capability for things like highway passing and freeway merging is more important to most people than how fast their truck takes off from a standing start.
Do have a question how long are your races? They seam longer than a 1/4mile??? I either way rather have the faster 0-60 and instant power on a daily. Easier for light to light wins, Honda was ahead each time for 8‐9 seconds from the dig that's at least 70-75mph?, that's most street races in those cars, there not 1/4m drag cars. Agree Honda does need to give it a bigger screen.
I doubt that many people who buy these vehicles will be buying them for the purpose of stoplight to stoplight racing. More important to most buyers will be how well the vehicle accelerates when it's already rolling down the road, such as how quickly it can pass a slower vehicle on a two lane road, or how well it can merge with other vehicles when entering a freeway. For those types of situations the Santa Cruz will provide faster acceleration than the Honda due to it's more powerful engine and lighter weight, and there will be little to no turbo lag because the engine is already spooled up.
I expect every pickup truck are specifically designs as a utility vehicle and it is seldom to be race cars although naturally aspirated engines have any life expectancies to endure long lasting general purpose comprising only with hyperutectic pistons without damaging its components if runs for normal uses 🤣😂
That funny but true I own a ridgeline and it like a mini tundra with strong reliability. Let see how long Hyundai will hold up or they might need to team with the better brand like Toyota to teach them reliability in engine and transmission. Lmao
As a current owner of a Honda vehicle with J35Y1 engine and 6AT, and also a Kia vehicle with the Turbo I-4/7-speed DCT, I would take the Ridgeline! In a few years the Hyundai will show too much wear on it's drive train. The Honda will feel like it's still new.
This test video is biased. If you are the one reporting on the test, wouldn't be reasonable that you drive the Honda as well? Just a commercial for the Santa Cruz.
sam what kind of camera do you guys use in and outside the vehicles? I like it when you guys mount a small camera in the interior on the sunroof. I want to vlog in my vehicle.
If they had made the Hyundai SC slightly larger, say a midsized which is what the Honda Ridgeline is, then I could see them as direct competitors. The SC seems to compromise where it matters when it comes to interior space and bed space. Having an updated tech due to being a new vehicle really isn't a bonus over the ridgeline. The SC is neat to be sure, but I will continue to say until Hyundai decides what they actually intend to do with the vehicle, its in its own niche. The Ridgeline as a vehicle is overall better, and it costs too much to be a direct competitor to the Maverick. So where does it belong? Maybe if they released a base model with a hybrid like the maverick, or made it comparable in size to the Ridgeline, we'd have a solid answer. Right now, its just an SUV with the back cargo area cut off.
If SC was larger it would not only compete with RL, but also with Taco, CO, Ranger, Frontier et al. And there was an unmet demand for smaller cheaper trucks, except Ford surprised everyone out of the blue with Maverick hybrid
Well this comment didn't age well. Now the Maverick is like maybe $3k less at best than the SC. I can't see a reason to pick up the Mav over the SC now unless for the hybrid. Otherwise you're getting a worse interior, worse handling, and missing out on quite a few extra goodies.
As with all such similar relatively close acceleration contests, I really don't see an advantage out in the real world. The other attributes of each particular vehicle and its design are much more important to most all buyers.
@@peter-gz9fj It could but I would say that when you're talking about a difference of hundredths of a second over say, a quarter mile, I'd think you're cutting merging or overtaking, etc. too close in traffic situations. But as was mentioned in the video, it is interesting just seeing how they stack up with one another.
I bought my Ridgeline to save gas! Has everything to get me anywhere I want to go! If I wanted to go fast, I’d have gotten a motorcycle! Which truck used the most gas?
