Wife and I just bought two new to us 2021 Tundra 1794 crewmax trucks. The 5.7 is awesome and we plan to run these two trucks for many years. The migration to the twin turbo claptrap was a huge misstep and jeaporadizes the reputation of the entire company. They would have been golden if they slapped the new tranny and hybrid system on the 5.7.
This is exactly what I was holding out for on the purchase of my Tundra. When I saw the direction they were going with the new 22' I began the frantic search in mid 2021 for the last of the 5.7 V8 Tundra. So glad I was able to secure a 2021 Tundra Platinum. Love it and have zero regrets!
I really want to thank you for posting your video about your Tundra motor failure. I was so in love with this truck before my motor blew. Small block rebuild will cause me to never trust this truck moving forward It was nice to know I'm am not the only one having this same issue... Thanks again for posting
@@mikehughes8023 No. I remember back in 2007 - 2008, the first few years of the redesigned Tundras, Toyota having to replace blown 5.7L V8s. I never buy a vehicle within the first few years of a redesign. Toyotas and Lexus’s are the most reliable overall but even they can’t overcome the new redesign bugs.
@@Jeff-sp7bgI said “Not necessarily”. You have no idea if it was or not. “Added stresses” is a catch all phrase used by people who don’t know anything about engines. All engines are subject to “added stress” if not properly engineered. Diesels have been using turbos for years and are sone of the longest lasting engines made. My neighbor’s new Tundra was lemon lawed back due to a hybrid electrical issue. Had nothing to do with the turbos.
I think of a lot of it comes down to supply of parts. I know for a fact that they could not get cylinder heads. I think they were getting so much backlash from customers they were just doing what they could and were too afraid to talk to people about it. That's definitely not the right answer, I own a mechanic and custom shop and I wouldn't do that to people. But when you have a truck that no one can repair except the dealership you're kind of at their Mercy I suppose. I ended up having Toyota by the truck back
These stories and videos are what make me continue to be METICULOUS about maintenance on my 2014 Tundra. It's never been to a shop for a repair, 175k miles on it and it runs, drives and nearly looks like new. I'm good.
I have a 2015 with 382,000k ZERO issues. Replaced starter last yr. Keep up on the maintenance and they will last. This is my third tundra and I can say I wont buy a new one.
@@charlieone604 no kidding. My point was that I intend on maintaining MY Current vehicles (2013-2015 T/L) so that I continue to AVOID having to replace them. I’m sorry you didn’t get that from my comment.
Glad you sold it back to them... I would have NEVER accepted anything less than a brand new motor. I was tempted to buy a '22 but ended up buying a pre-owned, loaded '21 1794 Edition with 14k miles on it. The salesman actually said it was the better truck. I've had it for two years and not a hiccup. Trucks been perfect.
Man got made a great choice. At the time of my purchase, it was cheaper to buy a 2022 than a 2021, otherwise I would have gone with the tried and true v8
I have have several 4runners, and didn't hate it for it's engine. It was crazy uncomfortable inside. My back hurt so bad after 30 minutes of driving. I tried all kinds of stuff to make it better. Put about 4k miles on it.
Have you ever driven the previous gen Tundra? If so, I'd like to know difference in seat comfort between that and your 2022. I have a 2019 1794 that I only paid $47K for, but also have a very bad back. Wonder if newer truck is better. Local dealers don't really let me test drive for hours at a time to really see...
@@charlesjackson1700 We have the 4WD SR5, which is firm, but not particularly harsh to me. Maybe the various upgraded off-road versions are harsher than ours, but I would agree it’s not plush lol.
My 2022 Tundra just blew up / it sounds very similar to what happen to you. I have it on a lease and will be trying to find someone to take it over. I don't believe this motor will last as long as the old ones.
@@davidglover3380 There are lemon laws, essentially if the vehicle sold to you falls under the category of a "lemon", the company has to buy it back from you.
Clearly they have an engine design flaw with this truck. People want to talk about other manufacturers and their reliability but this sounds like a wide spread issue and BTW I'd want to see a new crated engine COMPLETE going into the thing otherwise buyback. None of this picking and choosing what parts are still good. It spun a bearing, I want a completely new engine
@@TheGaginatorso you sold it even though they gave you a lifetime warranty? That warranty is worth 10’s of thousands of dollars. Honestly. Although I get chills thinking Toyota techs are completely ripping the car apart. Tough situation.
sorry you had such difficulty. I’m a retired service advisor/manager Lexus , Toyota, Ford etc. My son now works for Lexus, they are constantly having issues with new models and having to deliver new units with one key only due to chip shortage. I’ve been out for 7 years (bad back) but unbelievable stories like yours make me feel so bad for the industry I worked in 40 years always to strive for customer satisfaction and high survey scores. I had lost faith in the post covid work where nobody cares! I always had advisors contact all customers everyday by 3:00 even if nothing had changed. The New world is not the one i grew up in. I own several cars my most reliable is a 2000 Camary 2.2, and a ‘72 Nova. Hope you the best ! Ford has had engine problems with turbo motors as Well. Man I would have a hard time keeping that truck as nice as it is unless I was provided concrete evidence something was done to prevent future catastrophic failures. At a minimum they should offer you a free hundred thousand mile extended warranty.
Thanks for the comment! It really is disheartening seeing how much the industry doesn't care about customers. The new stuff just isn't anything close to the old stuff. I have had at least 5 older Toyotas with over 300k miles. Currently Have a 1996 Corolla beater with 205k
This stuff always happens during the weekend (Plumbing usually breaks on Sunday morning) so you can have maximum trouble. Nice looking truck by the way.
We just went through the same process. 22 tundra SR5 4x4 same color 😂. They had our truck just over a month and sounds like the exact same repair.. short block and components. I’ve filed a claim with Toyota asking them to re-purchase the truck because I also don’t have faith in a brand new truck with a re-built engine. I would have felt a little better if they had dropped a new factory crate motor in it instead of opting for a re-build. They had the truck for 3 months last year for a rattle in the diver side door. Out of 17 months of ownership, we’ve only enjoyed it 13 months. Love the truck and believe in Toyota as a reliable brand. I hope they do right by their customers in this situation.
This sounds like the exact same experience that I've had with my 2022 SR5. It went to the dealer three or four times for all different kinds of interior noises ranging from wind noise to rattles. All of which the dealer was unable to fix and I ended up just figuring it out myself. I felt the same way with them replacing the motor and then not having confidence in it. I went ahead and did the buyback and I'll do a video on how that process went. Thanks for the comment!
Having worked for toyota as a mechanic at a dealer. You can't buy a crate engine from toyota. They have short blocks. An engine with no cylinder heads. That's how they have always done it.
Toyota only ships short blocks and will only include heads if there's damage up there. It's standard procedure for most foreign manufacturers to only replace parts that are broken/damaged and reuse everything else.
I know a guy who had the same problem with about same mileage maybe a few more on it with a 2023. waited 3 months to get it repaired and after getting it back 7 days later it seized up again.
Wow that's absolutely awful! I was upset with having to wait a few months and getting my truck back, I can't imagine if it happened again I would be livid.
@@TheGaginator They replaced they said everything that oil passed thru. Haven't heard much from either toyota or the dealership from what he said. Not sure what his plan is now.
@@Jeff-sp7bg Its a very small amount of new Tundras that this is happening to. All in all ,the fact that it is happening and no immediate fix is the concerning part. I had a 22 Tundra ordered and waited 14 months for it and finally gave up and bought a Sierra with a 3.0L Duramax.
They should have kept the 5.7 V8 as an option and then mate it with an updated 10 speed automatic transmission and/or update the axle ratio to help with fuel economy. There really was no need to reinvent the wheel here.
Calling one of the worlds most reliable and great built trucks miserable from behind the wheel of your blown up Tundra on the shoulder of a toll road is bold. 😂
Initially, I had a strong reaction to that, as well. But if you think about it, this guy went through a lot of stress with his family, and he might be speaking from emotions, you know what I mean? Give him some grace. Yes, the 4runner is extremely reliable, for a man who has children, the backseat leaves something to be desired. Tundra definitely has more room for the children.
I'm sure the 4Runner is great for some people. My body did not agree with the interior, and was the main issue. I can deal with low power. I could drive for 6 hours in the tundra without stopping and have no issues with body pain. Driving the 4Runner for just about 30 minutes my back is destroyed. (recent spinal fusion) I've owned close to 500 personal vehicles and the 4Runner is just not for me. I really enjoyed some of the other 4runners that I had mostly older models.
Well that most reliable truck was built off the reputation of the 2021and older Tundra's which had those terrific V8's . This newer Tundra 2022 and newer has yet to prove its reliability and frankly I don't believe it can ever be as reliable as the v8 Tundra's.
@TheGaginator There's no way on earth would I keep that truck, I'd cut my losses and run away from it I love toyotas have a bunch of them , if that was me I'd use the lemon law and get my money and don't look back
Update: we’ve had our Tundra back two weeks after the engine failure and rebuild. Today it died again.. spent 3 hours waiting for the tow truck. Still waiting for a response from Toyota as to the buy back or replacement. I guess a lawyer will be next. Very frustrating
Wow! At this point Toyota should be offering to buy these trucks back as soon as these failures happen. Yes it would be expensive but is it more expensive than losing customers for life? Hope they do right by you.
@@tonylee6699depends on the state. Usually it’s 30 day’s or more in the shop total for all repairs or 3 times to fix a serious problem. It’s an easy process with an attorney.
lol it's funny what some consider miserable. I would consider a vehicle with a blown engine at 16k miles miserable. Hopefully Toyota gets their shit together with these turbo engines. If I had to choose between the 4.0L v6 and the 3.4L twin turbo V6, I'd choose the 4.0 1,000 times.
The engine power wasn't miserable it was the comfort for me. I could Drive the tundra for 6 hours straight without stopping but only 30 minutes to an hour in the 4Runner in my back was killing me. I put 5,000 miles on the 4Runner and did multiple trips across the country. I tried all kinds of different positions and seat cushions to help with this, but my body just didn't agree with this 4Runner
2011 Tacoma here. 160k 1GR-FE 4.0l. .5qt oil use in 5k oil changes. Silky smooth engine. No problems , but those seats are murder. Good luck in future Toyota trucks.
Makes my 2000 GMC Sierra SLT that I’ve owned for 23 plus years look that much better! Broke down one time in 183K miles (fuel pump). Had 5K miles on it when I bought it in 2001 for $12,900 cash!
That body style GM truck is one of the most reliable vehicles ever made. I've probably had close to 20 of them. I went with a 2008 GMC Yukon with a 6.2 and no DOD to worry about
I'm a toyota dealership tech and I've seen 2 of these trucks come in with under 30,000 miles on them and the engine locked up. I love the styling and comfort of the new tundra's, but I'm weary of the engine. I wish they would've stuck with the V8
A few weeks ago I watched my neighbor’s new 1794 Tundra being hauled off on a flat bed. Toyota bought back under lemon law. Neighbor is out a ton on all the extras he bought for what he thought was going to be a dream vehicle for him. 😢
My 2022 Tundra seized yesterday at 20811 miles. I’ve been told I’m getting a new engine. Mine is the second one my dealership has seen, both 2022’s. Thank you for posting this video. It’s good to not be alone in this situation.
It’s crazy I get to watch your video on this issue with the 2022 Tundra. I have a 2022 SR5 Tacoma V6 and so far no problems. As I’ve been taking it for service, I noticed a 2022 Tundra Platinum with over 7k miles getting parked on the front of the dealership building with a recall fixed. I’ve been putting my eye on a new 2024 SR5 Premium package and SR5 convenience package with no dealer add ons at MSRP with our sales person. Glad I came across your video. Will hold off until Christmas to buy a new 2024/2025 Tundra. Good luck with your truck!
Dude, you should never take this truck back from Toyota. You bought a brand-new truck that has already given you an engine problem. I will take it back and tell them you need a new one. The truck is too new for all these troubles. Toyota is beginning to start building junk cars like the American ones. This has to stop
@GoogleDoesEvil Since when and which make? 🤔🤣 All you have to do is type the year and name of the vehicle, followed by the word "problems," into the RU-vid search bar. You will find millions of videos of customers complaining about the many problems with their new cars.
@TheGaginator Hi, did you know these new Toyota Tundras qualify for the lemon law? The dealership will take it back and give you all your money back, right?
If you want a full size truck with a NA V8 as well as the "reliability" (I quote this because reliability is also dictated by how diligently a person maintains their truck or car) of a Japanese brand, look into the Titan. The amount of features and what you pay for a top trim Pro-4X is for lack of a better word, incredible. You get a 5 yr, 100k mile warranty too. Where I live in NY, some dealerships around me is actually offering them below MSRP since the F-150 is the go-to for most full size truck buyers. While Nissan sedans and crossovers with the Jatco CVT are time bombs, their truck lineup is actually legitimate.
I bought a new 2023 Titan Pro4X last June. The dealer gave me a $7k discount with the doc fee as the only adder and financed it at 0%. And the dealer included a life time drive train warranty. I'm loving it, powerful, quiet, very comfortable. Old school in many ways with its V8, hydraulic steering, no cylinder deactivation, no stop and start and not good on gas but I'm retired and don't drive much.
100%, Nissan is the new Goto for quality reliable trucks and suvs. Never touch ANY of their cars. Toyota just drove their reputation, customers, and company profits off a cliff.
Sorry to hear about this - you never know truthfully. Any vehicle could have issues. Thx for sharing and hope everything works out in the end. Pray your next purchase goes smoothly
Fellow DFW resident here, dump it! I know it's not apples to apples, but I had a very similar situation with a 3.5L EcoBoost SHO. The cam phaser issues popped up with less than 30k miles, and religious oil changes, but I loved the car so much and pushed through. I got to know my Service Advisor and one of her kiddos, spent about two months in a rental car while mine was getting various issues repaired. That car did not go a whole year in the four I owned it without needing some kind of work. Shortly after the warranty ended, I got a MIL for cam crank correlation (forgot the exact P code)...I was done and just sold it to Carmax with 60k miles.
Great looking truck. I have a 22 limited trdoffroad with 41k. Bought in March of 2022, build date was in February of 22. Only had little glitches there and there. Other than that the engine has been solid. I would ask toyota for a extended warranty as far as they can go. At least to hold you over a a couple years. I'll be getting a 2025 when my lease is up. Sorry you had to go through that
Thanks for the compliment! I'm glad your truck has been good, I think these trucks will probably be fine in the long run but I just had a few that were no good from the manufacturing point. I ended up going with the Toyota buy back on this, even though I had a lifetime warranty through the dealer that I bought it from. The headache wasn't worth it
Buy a Nissan Titan. Has a V8 with no cylinder deactivation and doesn’t shut off at stoplights, and they are really dealing on them since it’s the last year of production.
I wouldn't worry about that, it has a 5 year, 100,000 mile warranty, many mechanical parts are used on other models and OEMs have to support their products for 10 years minimum. @@TheGaginator
I bought a new 2023 pro4X XD, so it has the 6.5 foot bed, this Christmas/New Year Nissan was dealing more than the big 3, I got it for a little less than $54K OTD. It's replacing my '09 Frontier that has over 215K miles and has been bullet proof. The best vehicle I have ever owned.@@TheGaginator
My 22 Tundra engine locked up January 1st. The dealership it is at seems to really be trying to help me. They still do not have a date when all the parts will be delivered so it can be fixed. Not happy with big Toyota.
It’s the bearing issue being made out of cast iron versus aluminum is the main culprit of these vehicles. Cast iron doesn’t dissipate heat as well so having bigger contraction and expansion of the material like cast iron is bound to cause problems.
I agree, but the issues at the time of my engine work was parts availability unfortunately. I argued for a complete engine replacement, but they could not get cylinder heads
I've been on the trade for over 40 years. I will have to say the most common thing is an improper cleaning of the block before assembly. The crank will tell .Also, if they didn't replace the heads, it is because it had oil pressure. If not, it will eat the cams and journals in the heads
It’s very interesting that a new Toyota engine broke so fast. My wife and I currently own three Toyotas but I don’t think I am going to buy any new Toyota with Turbos and hybrid combined. These cars and trucks are going to be a nightmare outside warranties. They need to bring the 5.7L V8 back so that people can choose if they want a v8 or a twin turbocharged 3.4L V6. I am glad they took care of you.
I have owned several Toyotas with over 300k miles, and will continues to buy the older ones. The EPA is the true killer of vehicles. Forcing manufacturers to conform the regulations that technology hasn’t caught up to.
This is practically the same experience I had with RAM recently. Just got my 2021 RAM 1500 Big Horn back from them on Feb 28 after bringing it in on Jan 2, 2024. Only 16k miles and continual overheating issues. Finally found out that a cylinder head was warped and needed all new head gaskets. Damage internally was so bad they replaced the entire long block. Having it back for about a week now, I have the same feeling you do, don’t think I trust the truck anymore and trying to decide what to do… Take the gamble or sell it. Oh yeah, and service reps were just as bad at RAM… Never heard a word from anyone and couldn’t get a return call.
I bought a new 2022 Tundra in July of 22. I loved the ride quality and driving comfort with no squeaks or excessive wind noise. I sold my Tundra in November of 2023 while the value was still good. The main problem that convinced me to sell it was almost every time that I cold started the engine there would be like a light hammer thump as the engine lit off. This was almost like a piston detonation but dull. Very well could have been a connecting rod bearing or a piston wrist pin giving out. Either way i did not want to keep the truck plus what I had read about other problems with the newer Tundra’s. When sold my truck had 9,482 miles on the odometer. I wasted my time taking it to the dealer mechanic’s which naturally turned out as “could not duplicate”. My wife’s car is a 2023 Corolla Cross and we like every thing about it except for the very limited cubbies for storing front seat driver and passenger items such as iPhone, gum etc. but the best thing about the car is that it has a great naturally aspired engine. I doubt that I will ever buy a turbocharged vehicle again. I’m sorry for the problems that you are having with your Tundra and God bless you and your family 🙏🏻.
Thanks for the comment! I agree with sticking non turbo for daily drivers. Turbos are for my fun cars haha. I had the clunk on start, wind noise, and dash rattles also. My wife was interested in the new Corolla, or Prius, but after the issues with my truck, we got get a Chevy Volt.
I agree with the whole naturally aspirated engine logic. My 2015 Tundra with the 5.7 engine is going strong, not one problem. My wife’s 2017 RAV4 needed some front brake work after only about 40k miles but other than that it’s also been great. The world isn’t building new engines with reliability in mind, that has already been done. Now it’s all about emissions reductions and all these problems
I was really wanting the new Tundra but the twin turbo V-6 was just a huge turnoff for me. I don't understand why Toyota did not try to make a hybrid version of the 5.7 with the new composite bed and lighter frame. The V-8 5.7 , 4.7, 4.6 are solid and were proven. The V-6 Turbo should have been an option like Ford does with their F-150's. I will hold on to my two V-8 Tundra's and look elsewhere for a new Truck for now. Sorry about your engine issues.
I have a 18 tundra… I bought it 2 years ago…. Had 17k miles and it has 27k now. I was so close buying a new gen tundra but here in commiefornia (100 mile radius) I couldn’t find the truck I wanted at msrp…. All wanted a 20k markup… F that and the tundra they rode in on. Found a limited 4x4 trd off-road crewmax in mesquite brown. Absolutely love the truck. It was a lil pricey but $47k was worth it to me. Besides the price after sitting down and doing hard thinking I didn’t want to have a v6 and deal with turbos… man, I’m glad I got what I did… the new tundras are so beautiful and the infotainment system makes me want to cry with jealousy but I simply love my thirsty girl. Brother, I truly hope you come to a decision you a live with. I too am on your side and line of thinking about what if it breaks out of warranty… I couldn’t do it. I’d get an another brand of truck or get a v8 tundra. Best of luck brother
Considering what this guy’s been through, he seems super chill. I’d have been throwing f-bombs left & right lambasting Toyota. And here I am about to plunk down money on a hybrid ‘24 Tacoma. 🤣
Everytime I had to talk to Toyota 🙏 *Dear God, please help me not kill anyone today, Amen* 🙏 Not gonna lie man, I was probably more upset at this situation than anything else in my life haha.
@@TheGaginator 🤣 “God grant be the strength and decency not to murder the QA person that birthed this faulty product into the American market.” Did you know of anyone else personally who was affected by these same issues?
Buying the first model year run of any new vehicle is a big risk. I wouldn't touch the new 2.7 turbo tacoma for at least the next 3 years considering all the issues with the turbo tundra
@@dustincollins16 appreciate the insight. I’ve weighed the Pros and Cons and gone back and forth beyond reason. Truth is, older Tacomas have a weak v6 that often “gear-hunted” when hitting higher rpm’s. So, 6 of one, half a dozen of another. I’ll bite the bullet on this one. I’ll be starting a channel based on my experiences with the truck as well. Might give me *some* leverage with Toyota if anything goes habitually wrong.
My 2022 GMC AT4, 6.2 , Carbon Pro, made in Indiana, has been great. No rattles and solid. I suppose I could have bought a boosted engine but I prefer NA. I get about 20 mpg on the highway. Toyota’s are made in my hometown, but I just couldn’t buy one. I hope you have good luck from now on out.
My best friend of 32 years bought a brand new 2007 Toyota tundra with a 4.7 V8. He ran that thing like there was no tomorrow; reliable truck for the past 15 years, never a problem besides maintenance. He just traded it in last week for that new tundra with the V6 turbo…. I advised him against it, but he went on the head and pulled the trigger. Let’s see what happens.🙄
My v8 tundra had no engine cap for a week. Dealer forgot to put the cap back after an oil change. It was seating under the hood the whole time. Oil spilled under the hood i took it back they admitted their mistake and gave me new oil change and complete wash . V8 runs with no issues even after all this happened. V8 is simple and does not quite on you.
Excess Machining Material within the Lead Main Bearing Oil Gallery...seen two myself. Early '22 Builds. Just comes down to not cleaning the block well enough after machine work was done. Has nothing to do with a poor design of the engine, etc.
This is a common problem, I was advised from the service writers and the parts guys at our Toyota dealer not to buy the new tundra for the engines having a high failure rate. I am sure over time toyota will correct the issues. Sounds like the dealer did their best to take care of you.
If your into the Japanese market, you seriously need to drive the Titan XD. It’s more of a truck and way more family friendly with seating room, etc. I had a tundra and was not happy, now I have a 2021 Ram3500 HD and a 2020 nissan Titan XD, can’t be happier. Very sorry for your situation, we spend way to much for these trucks to go through this crap.
Wow bro, I am very glad to hear that you and your family are okay after dealing with that ordeal, thank God. We knew that there would be some issues with the first year model of any vehicle but this one has left me seriously skeptical in my decision to purchase a new anything toyota for now. I don't know if the lifted modifications had anything to do with the diving dynamics at this point but it would sure be nice to know if it did but anyway, let's see what you will get next. I did read in your comments that you did sell it back to Toyota which I definitely would have done too and simply avoiding your calls so that they wouldn't have to explain anything to you is extremely poor customer service. A simple answer of "we don't know why your product failed like this as of yet but we will certainly have an answer of some sort for you asap would have been a better and more appropriate way of providing service to you from this dealership. Over 60k is a lot of $$$ for these vehicles and I really hope that this truck was simply a lemon and not a recurring thing for other Toyota tundra owners of the new gen.
Thank you for the kind words. After some time has passed I've been able to gain some information about the failure. Apparently the engine crankshaft bearings or associated parts were sourced from a lower quality supplier for several months in 2022 which caused the failure
You are welcome and it is both disappointing and good news, disappointing that Toyota has decided to increase their profit margin at the expense of their perceived customer satisfaction, reputation, and loyalty or is it because it's built here in the USA and secondly, it's also good news that your lifting of the truck (for which I said to myself, if anyone would know, it would be a legit mechanic) had nothing to do with the modifications of the truck in this capacity other then possibly decreasing full economy which would have left me to definitely believe that the turbo charged v6 will not be reliable after all but, it isn't the case for you. So for now, a new Tundra is still up in the air for now but I will wait for a bit and doing a lift and replacing the tires with 35's on it is still something foreseeable in the future. Bless you and your family and your subscribers and continue the good work on your youtube channel.
It’s really not the first year of that motor. It’s been out for quite a while in the Lexus, so the motors been true trade it’s just a rare thing happened to him, also tired he doesn’t want you to know where one wrong because they’re very proud of their trucks. That’s why they weren’t communicating with you.
My 2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro Hybrid was just towed due to engine knocking and loss of power. Toyota has a limited recall but they state the hybrid powertrain was not affected. Waiting to see how serious of an engine failure my truck has. I have 11k+ on this truck. I had the oil changed at 2,500 miles by choice at the Toyota dealership. It was just in for service at 10k with another oil change.
Sorry this happened to you. I have a 2023 TRD pro that has been rock solid. That dealership sounds like a nightmare to have to deal with. Just got some info on why the engines have been blowing last week. He told me that 50 engines have blown so far. The blocks were not cleaned properly after machining. Metal particles left in the engine block. He said that 2022 model year are the engines with this problem.
@@TheGaginator it’s just like the turbo problems. A couple dozen trucks have a problems and the sky is falling! 😂 At the end of the day Toyota will fix it. I love my TRD pro and feel lucky to own one!
@stevemorris6270 They think it's the Rod but it might be the main bearing My dealership is waiting on a Toyota guy to show up before they tear it down No I didn't install a tuner...
Thanks for the honesty. One doesn't find it much these days. I own a 2014 Subaru WRX STI 5-door, and despite thousands (maybe millions by now, I don't know) complaints about engines self-destructing, the failures (most being similar to your supposed crankshaft bearing failure, or piston ring failure) were being caused by aggressive throttle application under 2,500 RPM causing excessive boost pressures and creating major havoc with engine internals. I have never had a problem with mine (I also own a 2002 WRX bugeye wagon) because I don't get on the boost until after 3K RPM. Teaching younger generations to not be so aggressive with throttle application is difficult, to say the least. I do own two Tundras, one a 2006 with the 4.7L V8, and a 2018 with the 5.7L. The 2006 Tundra is by FAR a better truck, in my opinion. I bought the 2018 in May 2018, and have pretty much just stored it since. It's only got 4K miles on it, but the '06 has over 270K with NO problems except for the factory recall for ball joints.
i bought a cheap older nissan titan replaced timing chain i like doing my own work older vehicles are the way to go cause parts are everywhere and there so much easier to work on
Yup I agree. At my shop, we've seen that vehicle made in 2019 + are garbage. I am back to driving old stuff. My current daily drivers are a 2008 GMC and 1996 Toyota.
Beautiful Tundra you got there, looks great, I bought a 2023 Tundra SR, as base as you can get them, I only have 3K on it now, I have a few issues with it, from a whistling rear air vent (dealer has a fix for it) to dash rattles and a engine start stop feature that hasn't worked in the winter (programming) My dealer has been a pleasure to work with so far, so the minor issues I have with it, I can live with. It's a shame Toyota and the dealer did not live up to their image on quality and durability in your case, a dirty engine after a rebuild is totally unacceptable and the lack of communication is a poor response on the dealer. I like my Toyota and this is my second one, but I don't think they are as bullet-poof as everyone makes them out to be.
Thanks for the compliment! I worked really hard to get this truck where I wanted to and did a lot of R&D myself at my own shop. From what I've been able to find the 2023 trucks don't have the reliability issues that the 2022 trucks did. They still have a lot of the Interior quality problems though, it went to the dealership several times for all kinds of interior noises rattles and whistling. Hopefully your truck will be great! I am just been pretty upset with the way new vehicles are. I went back to driving my old cars
Yes you're right I was a little disappointed to see that in the new Tacoma because it looks like such an awesome truck. The government is the problem driving crazy high efficiency out of small engines
It's going to take time to get better at anything. I would be more afraid of a company that never strives to be better. 10 years from now, your opinions about Toyota won't matter.
@@bad_vaporizervery true Ford's been doing turbos for over a decade now and have taken the reputation hit but I would trust them with turbos over the newly designed Toyota turbos.
What was wrong with the 4Runner? I understand the Tundra and the 4Runner are not in the same category. All these new trucks and suvs are way overpriced.
I suspect that it has to do with the Tundra being a new design with all of the modern amenities and the 4Runner essentially being a 13 + year old truck. That said, you never hear of a 4Runner blowing its engine with 16K miles on the clock!
For me it was the interior comfort. I can deal with the low power, I drive plenty of low power vehicles. I could ride in the tundra for a very long time without taking breaks, but the Forerunner would kill my back after less than an hour of driving. I've owned older 4Runners and they were not a problem
@@TheGaginator I totally get it, I went from a 2013 Altima SL to a 2020 RX350 F Sport. The Altima seats were more comfortable on long trips to me. I know the Lexus has more comfortable seats in non F sport models. Maybe the limited 4Runner has better seats then the one you drove. I was looking to purchase a 4runner before they pull the V6 and the 5 speed for reliability reason.
I live in ONTARIO CANADA our SSM Dealer had 4 new Tundra's with low Mileage Turbo Engines were replaced .. I purchased a 2023 Tundra and put about 500 miles on it and had my transfer case and front differential replaced... The Dealer was very good with us . I had a new loaner Tundra for over 3 Months they had a hard time to get the parts because the truck was a Refresh new MODEL..Also TOYOTA CORP. contacted me and open a claim report at the end of the repairs i asked for compensation they gave me 2 Major checkups at 10,000 and 20,000 at NO charge..I still love their product because they backup what they sell.. I've been with TOYOTA for 40 YEARS.... I didn't buy this Truck i leased it this time... I don't know if the TWIN TURBOS will last 300,000 miles ...We'll see how well they hold up before i purchase one....
Haha yes performance was awful on the forerunner, but the comfort was why I hated it. I have lots of other vehicles and I've driven very slow things. I daily drive a Ford Festiva a lot of times haha. The comfort of the Forerunner was something I just couldn't get over. I could write in the tundra for 6 hours straight without stopping, but the 4Runner would destroy my back within just 30 minutes or so. I did at least five very long road trips in the 4Runner across the US and i definitely would never purchase one
Im a technican at a Toyota dealer and I can comfortably say the new generation Tundras are JUNK!!!! From fuel lines leaking, turbos failing and engines locking up do not own these trucks out of powertrain warranty. I dont even wanna mention the 5 or 6 recalls already out on them. If you own the 5.7 UR Series V8 Trucks KEEP EM!!!!!!!!
100%!! The 5.7 trucks are still the bomb. We have a customer that brings his fleet trucks to out shop, and they are all Tundras with 200-300k miles. Never any bigger issues than common wear
I did the lemon law thing with Toyota back in 2018 I think. Got a lawyer and he filed the paper. The rules are simple. Car in shop for the same issue 4 times, lemon law, if they have your car more than 30 days, lemon law. They settled and bought the 4runner back. Paid off the loan and refunded like 1500 bucks or so. It was easy peasy but probably not that way all the time. Keep your records going to the dealers for warratny work. It will save you.
As a Toyota fan boy, I am not a fan of any part of your story. Especially the sh_tty service from the dealer. I've been skeptical of the new generation with the turbo engines. Now I'm really worried. I just bought a 2021 with the V8 and love it. Hope it lasts me a long time.
Yes I'm a Toyota Fanboy as well I'll admit it. I have owned many many Toyotas ranging from pretty much every model that they make. I don't think you're going to have any problems with your 2021, those trucks routinely see 300,000 miles
I've had older 4runners and I really enjoyed them. This truck was just so uncomfortable I could not write in it for 30 minutes without having back pain where I could ride in my Tundra for 6 hours without taking a break no problem. The lack of power in the 4runner was also a complaint. I'm sure they're great for some people
This is accurate. And has happened to several vehicle manufacturers over the years. I own a Ford specific shop and we work on a lot of Ford V10 engines. They were manufactured to run 5W-30 oil, but halfway through the year 2000, the EPA sort of forced them into running 5W20 so they could get their emissions numbers up by a fraction of a percent across the production line. The engines that are running 5W20 have issues with oil consumption and premature rod bearing failure
Brother I fully understand the frustration. I used to be a huge ford guy and had a major issue with my prior 2019 150. Never did sit well with me so I got rid of it because. At this point man not many trucks have the reliability of prior generations. Maybe get an extended warranty for if it happens again.
I wish i did this. At the time that i bought this truck, a used 2012 was selling for MORE than a new one. I couldn't bring myself to pay more for a used vehicle. My mistake.
I’ve been super hesitant to do a aftermarket lift and tires on my 22 tundra because I’m afraid Toyota will void my warranty if I have the same issue. It’s good to hear they didn’t give you any hassle
Wrong, Toyota previous gen vehicles are the best in the world and it's not a debate or even a close race. These new gen smaller displacement turbo pos engine are destroying the brand and customer base.
Gorgeous truck. I said when this engine first came out. If they're going to take a smaller V6 block and push the same hp as a larger V8 block, that hp now has to be distributed over 6 pistons, rods, and bearings instead of 8. It also has a smaller crank. Because of that, I've been saying that they hopefully upgraded all the bearing areas, rods, crank, etc to take that added stress per part. Typically when you take a smaller engine and increase the power this much, you reduce life. Same with engine speed. Turbo engines tend to rev higher to spool turbos. Rule of thumb is, if you run twice the engine speed, you get half the life. But maybe they did upgrade all the bearing areas, and this was just a machining mistake. As far as I'm concerned, turbocharging a car engine is fine, because the engine is not under heavy load very often. With a truck however, it's not only a heavier vehicle, but it's expected to tow, and haul heavy loads. It's a lot to ask out of a smaller chunk of iron.
Call me old school, but one reason i buy used vehicles is that i know their history and problems before i buy a particular make/model. You can't know that with a newer vehicle unless it hasn't undergone any major changes since previous model. Kilmer did disclose the problems with these turbos, yet people still go buy them, as though they're immune. I drive an '04 Sequoia. I paid $7k cash 12 yrs ago. It had 168k miles on it when i bought it. It now has 343k on it and runs perfectly every single day. My Sequoia and i are like old friends now. I still take good care of her and she runs for me every day. I don't want anything else honestly. But i would buy a used Lexus LX570 if i did and keep it till i die. Im saving up for it. Newer isn't better everyone. Gotta check the history on these vehicles guys. Let someone else figure out the flaws.
Man that sucks. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. I love the body style of the new Tundras. In a perfect world, new body style with engine swap for the I force V8!
Got the 2022 hybrid and just about 10k on it. No problems at all. Truck rides super nice and love all the tech they put into it. Only complaint is that is a little heavy. runs sluggish when cold and engine kind of struggles a little. Some wind noise coming from weather seals around windows. The mirrors rattle when closing doors,. It could be because they are the retractable, the plastic interior paneling are not as good as the older models, I also have a 2008 and the interior still looks like it was built yesterday.m and zero rattle .lastly very little storage on the hybrid models. So far I like the truck. For those out there worried about their new truck, remember that this is not a new engine, I heard this was on an Lexus and they just did some modifications. 10 speed Transmission is brand new so time will tell.
The 2024 models are having the same engine failure as the 2022 and 2023. The 3rd gen Tundra is so far, a a failed vehicle from Toyota. The amount of wind noise rattles, and overall build quality are pretty disappointing for a $60k truck.
I have not seen one new Tundra or any Toyotas broken down on the side of the road and this is the first video I have seen on Utube. GM, Ford and Dodge do have big issues. That suck you and your family were stranded on the road. I am driving my 13th Toyota ( 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad) 90k no trips to the shop. I wish you good luck in what ever you do.
Thanks for the comment! I too have owned MANY Toyotas, several with over 300k miles, and loved them. Hopefully the bugs get worked out for other buyers
Would be awesome to hear more about the 4runner fails. Man I would be outraged if my family was stranded and everything you went through. Seems like you're a peaceful guy props to you!
The 4runner was just so uncomfortable. I tried really hard to make it work. I used 5 different types of cushions even. I'm sure plenty of people like them. It was an AWFUL situation for sure, but hey, God's got a plan and it always works out.
It is scary. I have thought about getting rid of mine before the warranty goes out. I love mine so far. I have the air ride on mine & it’s the best riding vehicle that I’ve ever had, that’s including Fords,Chevy,Ram,Cadillac……
I was looking for a 2015 to 2017 F150 with the 5.0, but I couldn't find one for decent price. I went with an older GM with a 6.2 V8. Has over 400 horsepower and gets 21mpg -wheel drive
Thank you for the kind words, I wasn't trying to bash Toyota or anything like that I just wanted to give my experience and maybe help someone else out that has this issue
I work at a toyota dealership in Central Florida and we were the first dealership to replace an engine on a tundra, 50 miles with a spun bearing, 👍 good job toyota, and seen many more after that
I warned y'all about this engine even before it launched on the new Tundra. If you go back a couple of videos of the LS500 I commented very profusely about it. The same issues you're seeing in the Tundra have been reported since 2018. The difference is, the LS500 isn't as mass produced, so most issues weren't reported online, especially since the LS500 clientele is an older crowd that's not necessarily interested in reporting stuff on the internet. People tried to shut me down and called me a Toyota hater and now here we are... Was I wrong this whole time!? I don't think so. There are even multiple threads on the Lexus forums of LS500 engine failures. This recall is now PROOF to those Toyota fanboys who think Toyota can do no wrong. And mind you, this "voluntary" recall came only because the NHTSA decided to open an investigation on it. Otherwise, Toyota would've just simply ignored and dug under the rug, just like they tried to do with the self-accelerating cars from a decade ago!
Hopefully you'll never have any issues out of it. I really did love a lot of things about this truck, the comfort and towing capability where my two favorite things. It towed better than my V10 F250 and got double the fuel mileage
I've had a couple of Toyota's and I can't say they are that bulletproof. Never had an engine failure but a lot of other bad components such as water pump, alternator, suspension and brake issues. So in 2009 I bought a new F150 4x4 with the now notoriously bad 5.4 V8. I am still waiting for it to blow up. I have 150,000 miles of heavy use (trailer towing) all over U.S. I have replaced the alternator once and the A/C compressor 3X. Otherwise nothing but normal maintenance and 5000 mile oil changes. the engine has never been touched. And it does not leak oil at all. I guess I'm lucky. Probably living on Borrowed time but I certainly have gotten my money's worth. Also have worn out four sets of Pirelli ATR's. It still runs like new.
