I agree that the music was a beautiful addition that helped maintain a spirit of reverence. The Lord needs a people prepared to receive Him when He comes and I felt that these changes were designed to help us accomplish that goal.
My parents had me (and our family) read the books of Moses and Abraham before going to the temple. When I went for the first time (1978 SLC) I felt I had come home, it seemed so familiar to me. Looking forward to going soon to experience the changes.
I just went back after 10 years of being gone and I had a panic attack. The changes seemed confusing. I went there for peace and was left with more questions and heartache.
Yesterday I had the most profoundly inspirational experience I’ve ever had in the temple! I adore the new endowment ceremony. Your video is insightful and inspiring while being sensitive to precious sacred things! 👏🏻🙏🏻👏🏻
Jasmin I just found your channel although I have watched your videos at Scripture Central. The way I experienced the newer endowment was ‘like a warm hug from heaven’. Our Father’s and Saviors great love for us was more prevalent and more powerfully displayed and conveyed. Its so heart warming to see the temples filled to capacity! Let us keep up the momentum! Thank you for your commentary.
New subscriber here. I plan to go to the Chicago Temple for my own endowment in the next 2-3 weeks. I did take the Temple Prep class, so when I saw your video here, I just had to watch. Even though I took the class, I am a little apprehensive, as I still do not know what to expect. My personal Church history is rather unique. I joined the Church 45+ years ago, was active for 3-4 years, then fell away. I only recently came back to Church at the April 2022 General Conference. I am now ready for my own endowment. I am so looking forward to it.
I loved all of the changes! I think two words that describe the changes are clarity and gentleness (scriptural definition). With the more obvious tie to Jesus Christ, the repentance and redeeming love side of things were more clear to me. I think this is going to make a better experience for all, especially for people receiving their own endowment and people coming back into the fold 🤍
I have attended as frequently I could since 1988. I am so grateful to recall different formats. To me it was a challenge to absorb the information 30 years ago. However I learned to enjoy the journey. The new presentation is same doctrine. To me more user-friendly. More powerful in simplicity. I know this is in preparation for the last days. GRATEFUL!
I just experienced the new endowment ceremony last night and WOW!!! 😲 SO MANY BIG and little changes…it was AMAZING!! Loved all the extra instruction and explanation! Soooo good!! Especially for new patrons! It’s like the gift of the endowment has been re-wrapped in beautiful new paper and tied up in a pretty bow!! 🎁
I took the Prophet’s council to attend the temple more. Since October 25, 2022 I have attended the temple every Tuesday morning and it has changed my life! I’ve never felt this connected to my Savior. I was in the temple (Provo City Center) Feb. 7th and was in awe with the beautiful changes. I couldn’t stop thinking of first time temple goers. What a blessing. Love your content. Great job. 👍🏻
Although I will miss my “water color, sketch book, and scrapbook” presentations, I love the new presentation. I’ve been twice with the new version and today’s session had subtitles which added another layer of learning. There are some words, one in particular referring to patrons, that surprised me by its capitalization. I wondered if a patron in our session had marked hard of hearing or deaf on their appointment but I asked and learned that all sessions will have the captioning going forward. Yay now I don’t have to mark deaf when I attend because the cations add so much. Loving your insights.
@@charlesmendeley9823 No, the faithful members are ready for more to prepare us for the second coming of Jesus Christ. Think of King Solomon's temple. The ceremony meant the same, except Christ had not come yet. The covenants themselves have not changed, but how it is presented has. It is so full of clarity, love and understanding. It is just beautiful!
@@deanabraden9871 The covenants have changed multiple times in the course of the changes made to the temple ceremony. In the latest change, the covenant to avoid loud laughter has been removed.
I went through last week - LOVED it! I think the changes are phenomenal....person who went through for the first time said "people told me it might be overwhelming - but it made sense to me" (the people did not know these changes were coming when they set those expectations) - one question asked to me after (that I could no answer) was: there is a real change in details of the covenants made right after the fall - it is great - but what about people who took out their own endowments prior to the change-is that previous covenant model or the new covenant model in effect for them"? An interesting theological question....regardless, I found these changes provided for an even greater spiritually uplifting and inspiring experience
I also loved the changes. I first went to the temple in 1988 so I have experienced big changes before. I had heard these new changes really made the endowment different, in a negative way. But at the end of the day, I still make the same 5 covenants, I still wear the same sacred clothing, and still have the same experience of learning, and progressing into the Celestial Room. I don't think the additional instruction "dumbed it down"; it just simply made many truths much more clear, and tied more things to what Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ most want from us: to become more like the Savior and to return to live with Them. This will definitely help new temple attendees and help international members. Having visuals throughout the entire endowment will help keep more attention, and the visuals of Christ definitely help make it a more spiritual experience. I also loved the updated language on two of the covenants, that make them more meaningful and modern. Yes of course the language of the endowment should change to meet the needs of the people. God has always spoken every language, including 2023 language!
They are just losing so many members they are desperate.They must think that if they shorten it and take out all the freaky stuff they won't lose so many members. If it was really from God they wouldn't have to make changes. God is never changing. The temple ceremony is totally man made taken from the masonic temple rituals.
@@katsmith2343 "Obey" never meant the husband had authority over his wife, it meant as he followed God's will in righteousness, she followed his example. It meant he was the be a good example for her to follow. As he obeyed the will of God, she obeyed the same will making them both United with God. It was to give the husband accountability over his family and take it seriously to help them all get back to live with the savior. I have always been a bit surprised so many of our own members have misunderstood that one and what it really meant when the language was totally clear🤷.
@@StompMom5 the husband absolutely has authority over his wife - as the father has authority over the son. It’s called the “authority” of the priesthood. The woman is charged with more than to simply following her husband’s example. she is told, in no uncertain terms, to “submit” to him as unto the lord. Yes, the language in scripture is very clear.
@@yeboscrebo4451 I have been married almost 45 years, and I do not believe what you wrote. I am not subject to my husband because he has the priesthood. God gave his most precious gift to women, that of providing bodies for His spirit children. Women should never feel less with Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ. The new temple video clarifies all if this and is so beautiful!
Many many thanks for sharing your temple experience with the endowment and the changes that have been made . There is no doubt in my mind it is a special place where the Lord's love and Spirit resides. I feel it so much every time I attend. Looking forward to my next visit. God bless.
I’ve been 😊homebound the past few years so regretfully I haven’t been to the temple to see any of the changes. It’s a blessing to come here to learn as much as you can share.
I’m like you, a little resistant to change. I still miss the way it used to be back in the early 90’s, when I went to the Temple for the first time. But…. I do love the new stuff as well. It’s all about progressing back to our Father in Heaven. So, over all , it was a beautiful experience that I’ll get used to, and be 100% ok with.
It's a joy to be able to covenant with the Lord and to come unto him in spirit so we may enter into his presence once again. Glory to God for continual revelation and personal revelation! We must change in order to return to his presence. I like your presentation on the changes.
I went yesterday, and it was the most known special and loved I’ve ever felt before. All of the changes were absolutely beautiful and greatly enhanced the experience. I very much feel like President Nelson is moving us towards the second coming in big and marvelous ways.
I have now been thanks to a Temple visit organided by the Elders quorum . Just loved it. The new approach helps to explain what we are doing and why and our relationship to Our Heavenly Father and the Saviour in the plan of salvation. Those scripture references were very useful. At one point the Lord's Spirit was so strong for me.. Hopefully can get back there soon. God bless and many thanks for your presentations.
I think these changes will be so nice for new temple goers! I wish I would have had these changes the first time I went!!! Truly Pres Nelson and the Apostles are inspired!!!
“Ordinances instituted in the heavens before the foundation of the world, in the priesthood, for the salvation of men, are not to be altered or changed.” - Joseph Smith
@Yebo Screbo changes have happened throughout the Church including Joseph Smith... More explanation not changing it a lot just added to make people understand what they are truly doing.
I wish I could say they are inspired. I would rather say that they have finally listened to people criticizing for years that there are several problems with the endowment session. Glad to see them finally add changes and making sure people know what they are going to experience and what exactly they are going to promise.
Were your leaders inspired when pre 1990 they made members slit their own throat from ear to ear with their thumb? How about when women had to veil their faces? How about when women had to covenant to their husbands? These "inspired" changes are just fixing problems they created to begin with. Non mormons have already not been placed under the obligation to avoid loud laughter and the other things previously mentioned. Non mormons have been able to attend their loved ones wedding long before these "inspired changes".
Jasmin, thanks so much for your sensitive and respectful discussion of temple thing! I think you are a perfect spokesperson for this topic. Cheers to you and husband Neal. 🙂🙏🏽
I was so grateful to be there the day of the change. I have been going on a regular basis so everything was clear in my mined. I am an artist and notice details. So the change had a profound effect on me as well. I do feel we are being prepared individually for the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am so excited to notice things that had changed that testify to me of His arrival. We are living in history. It is amazing to me. And I am grateful to know and feel the spirit in the temple and as I write this post. What a beautiful blessing we have been given. Let God Prevail yall
I totally saw the changes a few years ago, from live action to stills, as a way to translate easier, and these recent changes, which I experienced yesterday for the first time, as another boon to the expansion of the gospel and temple worship world wide. I find it thrilling to contemplate the realization of taking the gospel to the whole world, as Jesus commanded his apostles, by having a temple ceremony that is so much more accessible and by adjusting the use of temple workers, as well as patron couples. I did a session of initiatories right after the endowment session, and there was a small change there as well, to match the corresponding change in the endowment presentation. On another topic, I attended a session a few months ago where Italian subtitles were showing. I don't know Italian, but I could figure out certain words given the corresponding English narration (this was in the Medford, Oregon temple). It lead me to some interesting insights about the endowment and deeper ways to think about it.
Thank you for this video. I was a regular temple attendee but since my husband’s stroke and the temple being too far away I have not been able to attend. Friends have told me that the changes were substantial but no more information was given me. This clarifies it further and I thank you. Much love dear sister. ❤
Temple Light: This partial transcript could be used to jump start captions for this video. This week has been a very exciting one in the world of Latter-day Saint Temples. As of Tuesday, February 7, 2023, the church made some pretty substantial changes to the temple ordinances. These were not minor tweaks, they were pretty big and really good. So let's talk about it, but respectfully. As always on this channel, we take our Temple covenants very seriously, so we will not be divulging anything that we covenant not to do. For this video, I'll be talking in more general terms as opposed to a lot of specifics because I do want to be respectful of this very sacred ordinance that is only available to worthy members of the church. I'd also like to emphasize that you really should go see these changes for yourself. You should not rely on some Rando on RU-vid. Attend the temple, feel God's love there. If you're working towards the goal of going to the temple, keep going because it is so worth it. So first, a little background. From what I know, the largest changes to the temple endowment happened in the 1870s, the 1920s, 1990, and 2005. Obviously, they've of course been a lot more minor changes all through that time, and while adjustments have been made to the presentation of the endowment, the covenants and the doctrines of the ordinances do remain the same. After Christ's death and Resurrection, he altered Temple ordinances from focusing on animal sacrifice to focusing on sacrificing a broken heart and a contrite spirit. But regardless of the format, the law of sacrifice remained in place. In the 19th century, the Lord commanded the Saints to consecrate their property in what was known as the United order. Now, today the church doesn't ask us to donate our property, but we are asked to be willing to contribute to Christ's Church in other ways, and the law of consecration remains in force. Now fast forwarding to President Nelson, this is the third major change that he has made to the temple endowment since he became the prophet in 2018. In January of 2019, he and the temple department made some pretty major revisions to the endowment that highlighted the important role of women in the Plan of Salvation. And it streamlined a lot of the presentation to reduce the runtime significantly. The presentation medium of the endowment changed as well because before 2019, a large portion of the endowment was often presented as film with live actors performing the narration of the Plan of Salvation from creation through the fall. Now in 2019, maybe to facilitate the smooth rollout of these changes but also very likely to simplify translation into a lot of languages, the church took stills from these live-action films and essentially created like an animated slideshow communicating these same principles and narrative points. They cut out various parts of the dialogue and shortened the ceremony quite a bit. In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic caused all temples to temporarily close. And as soon as it was feasible, the church did open the temples again. But they made some adjustments to minimize the person-to-person contact so as to prevent the spreading of diseases and pathogens. This included demonstrating some instruction on screen that previously would have been done in person. And now we arrive at 2023, the newest iteration of the endowment is longer than the 2019 version. There's additional dialogue in The Narrative of the Plan of Salvation. There are additional explanations about the meaning of certain symbols and covenants, and most of these editions center around Jesus Christ.
Thanks a lor for sharing. I have not been able to go to the Temple for a long time. The last time was in 2007. So, I am really looking forward to going back in the near future to be sealed to my parents. We do not yet have a Temple but have to attend the one in South Africa.
I very much appreciate this channel. Although I was very motivated to attend the Saint George Temple after it's 4 year closure you have increased my interest about attending a many new endowment sessions. I appreciate this service you are providing.
Thank you for your channel, @TempleLight . I am planning on going to the Washington DC Temple on December 30 (my birthdate) and receiving my own endowment, so I am interested to see how it works and everything that you had mentioned in this and other videos.
Can't wait to go. Have any of you seen the podcast- The Ancient Tradition? Yesterday a very interesting episode dropped on kingship, priestship, and marriage in the Garden of Eden. I couldn't believe it.
I have not been yet for the new changes, but I am 52 and the impression I am getting is that those who didn't understand the temple, now understand it more clearly. I get the feeling that this is because people now days have to have it explicitly said rather than being able to feel it anyway through the Holy Ghost. To me this indicates younger generations are having more trouble and the temple endowment is more explicit to help. While this may help, I am pretty sure I will come out after seeing the new changes and say "I already knew that".
Yes I agree. Have been attending the Temple for 40 years....and what a growing experience to have the Spirit testify the deeper meaning of the endowment as the years went by...always learning.......I went yesterday...and actually cried a little....because the things eliminated or changed are permanently GONE. It just does not feel as"one on one" as before. I would go back to the way it was in the 1980's in a second. Real people who moved and spoke and unbelievable music and scenery...
Thank you so much for this beautiful video. I’ve only as of now come across your video and what you have shared has made me even more excited to come to the house of the Lord! I have finally been blessed to receive my own temple recommend and will be going to the temple for the first time next weekend. Thank you for helping me to be more excited.
I am 94 and the Tempe is a 3 hour drive to it. With all the wonderful technological advances we have today, do you suppose we will be able to attend the Temple on zoom? I would love to attend one more time.
Thank you so much. I had to cancel my appointment this week in the temple because of being sick. I love the temple and I am so grateful that we have the opportunity to serve and be uplifted while visiting the temple. ❤️
All ordinances in the temple have at least one minor change. One change may not even be apparent if you aren't paying attention! As a temple worker, we have memorized certain things and now suddenly have to relearn things so we may make mistakes or have to read something instead of just saying it naturally. Please be patient with us! But all the changes are wonerfull if you think about it. One change helps us think differently about proxy ordinances while other changes our relationship with Christ!
It would be great if the patrons were able to read along as well. I have difficulties with auditory processing. After the changes in 2019, I was grateful the workers needed the cards because I was able to read along (in the initiatory) and understand meanings I hadn't before.
@@yeboscrebo4451 There's a lot of good stuff on the internet to help you see what's going on with all of the changes and why they are being made. Have you read the CES Letter yet?
I’ve been trying to attend everyday I can and it has been absolutely heavenly. Bursts of light and manifestations of our Lord Jesus Christ in ways I never dreamed possible. Now I know why Pres. Nelson has encouraged us to go often. I no longer feel like it’s a sacrifice. I get so excited and happy getting ready to go wondering what special gift is waiting to experience from His kindness. ☀️ I’ve been attending for 32 years and finally now my blind eyes are seeing the wonders and gifts His sacred house holds. The world has nothing to offer compared to His tender mercies found in His house.
The Book of Revelation is actually the book of Jesus Christ himself. Did you know that? It opens with this. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ given to John" Jesus then tells John that this revelation of Christ is all about the future believers in Christ only. Days to come, as he said. Jesus told John that these future believers would Serve Christ " day and night in HIS temple." Rev. 7:15" These Christian's wear white robes and garments. "Rev. 7:13" They serve at night so this is a temple on earth only! Why? In heaven there is no night time. I don't know why Christians in other churches aren't looking for what Christ promised John must be happening in his future church? Christ also said in your Bible that he would return to earth again at his 2ND COMING to his TEMPLE." Malachi 3:1" Wow! If I was a Christian I would be searching for that promised Christian temple Christ promised John! A temple where believers wear white robes and garments. Also John describes them washing their robes in Christ's blood symbolically. That's not a non-believing Jewish temple but a Christian only temple. Link UTube video titled (BOA ep 16) link Paul Gregersen to get there
@@machellethehealersartdisco6985 Yes, but Christian's choose to ignore the book of Revelation about future temple worship where Christ declares it as HIS revelation. Christian's broadly say that there is no more temple today. Just my way of reminding them that they might be ignoring the very Jesus they claim is against any modern day temple. Obviously some of them will come to investigate this video.
Is this not describing the Second Comforter following offering our broken heart and contrite spirit? I understood the temple is symbolic of this: 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Do changes made reflect what happened to the creator of the movie? Prayers for protection!
@@brighiddara8414 Yes, the broken heart is the main sacrifice that qualifies everyone who prepared. No longer by the blood of animals today. It's a Christian temple not a Jewish old testament.
I'm coming up to a year and doing my temple prep ready for endowment. I had a wobbler at weekend and didn't want to do it but videos like yours have helped me regain my confidence in eating to go and do to . Thankyouuu x
Sounds amazing! I envy those that enjoy going to temple. I’m an active member, not perfect, but trying and I do not enjoy the experience. I feel like its awkward and I don’t really know whats going on. Probably a personal thing. I have so much anxiety even thinking about going back. And being worthy is not my issue. It is so hard for me to understand why others enjoy going. It is probably one of the most awkward, confusing, anxiety provoking experiences of my life. Except baptisms for the dead, I enjoyed doing those in my youth.
You're not alone. The temple before 1990 was scary and a lot of people didn't/couldn't go back. When I went through in 1991, the disturbing stuff was gone and it was actually intriguing. The later changes were even better because there was more stuff about the importance of women and their relationship with the Lord.
Thank you for presenting this in such a dignified & respectful presentation. It makes my current planning to return to the temple since covid even more exciting. I have a question, if I may: With this change has any of the other temple ordinance(s) procedures changed?
I managed to go at the weekend.....I love the more focus on Jesus and repentance and faithfulness. I miss giving up....we sit too much for too long in the church, also stand up and down keeps people awake. I noticed the wording in the Inititory has slightly changed too, especially the end part.
I look forward to when the church chooses to include our Heavenly Mother in the temple as she was an equal partner in the Creation. I'm ready to hear more about my eternal role model.
@@lisasj67 Oh yes, our ETERNAL beloved HOLY GODDESS MOTHER, was, is, and always protected by GOD our ETERNAL FATHER, because there's so many disrespectful ones, that might take GODDESS, our beloved HOLY ETERNAL HEAVENLY MOTHER'S name in vain.
Thank sis for your update and vivid explanations there is an account on utube that bear's the name LDS ministries spreading rumors of lies out there.Thanks for your channel for spreading more lights to the entire world.
Dear Jasmin, thank you SO much for your enthusiasm and your love for the Savior and His House, and your sharings! Please, could you talk a little slower, so my brain can "digest" all those wonderful informations!! I'm a little bit old, now, and.....french!! 😂 Thanks so much!! With all my gratitude!
I haven't yet been since these changes were made but I already feel the love that my Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have for me personally because of these changes!
I can’t express how much I would have loved to have this current presentation when I first went through the temple 16 years ago! It was actually a terrible experience for me, though I had attended temple prep classes. I still feel a bit uncomfortable at certain times, but as many have said, these changes are so clarifying, and give an atmosphere of gentleness and tender love that is incredible. I absolutely love the changes, and felt more like I was actually having an otherworldly experience than ever before.
Being hearing impaired, I sometimes wish they would caption the film used for the session. I am glad they accommodate people with disabilities since I am now in a wheelchair. I miss being in the temple and now that there will be a temple closer to me. Two hours versus five hours one way is a lot easier on me and my family. I tell my daughter that I need some celestial room time.
What temple preparation classes? Is that done where there's more members? I converted in 2020, had my endowment in 2021, and have done 4 or 5 proxy endowments. I don't know most of what you've explained so far. I try to learn for myself, couldn't figure it out. Thanks so much! I have an endowment scheduled next month, but hope I can go sooner.
Understand - there are changes to proceedure, not ordinances. Changes occur frequently, that is evidenced in the scriptures. Ordinances remain the same.
I can’t wait to get back to the temple! Wish it was closer than 2.5 hours away, but I know others around the world have a far greater distance. But nonetheless I can’t wait to get back! Thanks for this great and respectful update.
Since you live so far away from a temple, please remember the session is now about 13 minutes longer. Also, plan to get there earlier enough to change into temple clothing! It is sad when people show up for 5 minutes before the start of a session. The patrons LEAVE the chapel about 5 minutes before the session starts. That means you may miss your session. Temples are swamped right now with everyone wanting to see the changes and if you miss your session, we may try having you do a different ordinance but can't guarantee that. Note: President Nelson would love to have more temples so that members will not have to drive more than one hour. But it is up to us to help grow the church in those areas like yours so that the temples can be staffed and enough patrons that it is used.
Thank you Janet. I am a regular temple goer whenever and wherever I can. And I’m very familiar with the procedures, but I appreciate the gentle reminder. I believe our temple is still by reservation only so we are still in that mode (although I could be mistaken) We are all hoping and praying for a temple to be announced this General Conference. I believe we’re the last big city in the US with over a million people without a temple and a ninth stake was just created Nov 2022. So we are growing and excited for when a temple can be built closer to us.
Can you feel all of the saints on the other side screaming to do temple work for them. Now with ever streamlining we can do there temple endowments. Instead of one maybe to sections we could do five or six or more endowment sections, times that by all of the working temples. What a great time we are living in.
In an attempt to justify some of the material on this channel, at least one of the videos it provides quotes Bres Bednar as saying “that “We may discuss the basic purposes of, and /the doctrine and principles associated with, the Temple ordinances and covenants.” Which, of course, is perfectly correct and understandable. However it is interesting - and important - to note that Pres Bednar has not said (or has ever said) that it is appropriate for us to discuss THE DETAILS of any of the Temple procedures outside of the Temple. As far as I am aware, that instruction continues to be given to new Patrons at the temple today.
blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Colossians 2:14-15 KJV
I have been inactive from the church for 40 plus years. I never lost faith in the church but I lost faith in myself to have faith in the sacrifices and the joys of the blessings of being a member of the church. There was a point where I stopped believing in God because I didn't believe in myself. I am still working on that but find it difficult because of my anxiety around people. I have taken out my own endowments but that was in 1975. Now being older, the only thing I remember is the name in which I will be called on the other side.
GOD the Eternal FATHER, & HIS WIFE, GODDESS our beloved HOLY Eternal MOTHER, are well pleased w/our Oldest Bro. JESUS, HIS obedience, concerning the Plan Of Salvation.
about how much time does an endowment session take? I want to schedule more ordinances and have to schedule an appointment for them. Thanks in advance.
I am so glad we have a living prophet, and a loving Heavenly Father, and our Savior Jesus Christ! I think the Lord is making it easier to understand our covenants with him, and to see his great love for us. I hope people go to the temple for the right reasons and not as a curiosity issues, or to judge or speculate. I really do not think we should announce all this changes in this kind of platform. Remember what we do in the temple is very sacred and should be treated with great respect.
As for the "net positive" and the fact that we love what has been familiar... and that change is something we may struggle with to some degree... consider that the gap between where we currently are individually and collectively... and where Father and Christ are in spiritual maturity... we have much repenting (change and fulfillment of the message and endowment of each "line upon line" measure of the revelations of the Lord) and restoration of all things... in the process of becoming even as Christ is--ourselves and in all creation. Expect the Miracle of more, much more change in the Temple that changes, sanctifies, and converts the Temple that we are... to look and be like our Savior and Father in Heaven--our fondest abode and "far better land of promise." Embrace the magnifying of the sanctifying Light and the conversion of life giving darkness--its being "born again" within us as the essential opposition in our "knowledge of good and evil"... all wrapped like the most glorious Christmas Gift with the finishing "bow" that our Savior Himself places upon us "all."
I loved the new additions! However, everything was explained a lot! It almost felt like the Brethren were saying “Goodness! Your grandparents understand without explanation… let me spell it out for you! These millennials and zoomers have no poetic bone in your body! You get it now? It’s about Jesus!”
I felt similar, but I think it has more to do with making it clearer for new members who don’t have a life time of learning and generations before them. My speculations: - Jesus is coming soon and so there will be a large influx of people joining the church from all sorts of backgrounds - the church is getting things ready to shorten the time a new member has to wait before going to the temple The whole time I kept thinking about what it would be like to officiate a session packed exclusively with people getting their endowment for the first time (not even escorts). And what if none of them were able to take a temple prep class. This new presentation, spelling everything out, would make that logistically possible.
I have heard your speculations about being prepared for a large influx of those seeking their endowments, without a lifetime knowledge of temples and covenants behind them echoed by several others... When we heard we were getting a second temple in our small town, my Dad's first response was " well, when the 10 tribes return wanting their endowments, you'll need it!" With these changes, it makes me wonder....exciting times!
I also think that there were a lot of faithful people in the past who went their whole lives and never truly understood especially because they didn’t know where to look or who to ask or have the accessibility to do so. This will set a trajectory of learning I hope for the whole church ❤
Doesn’t changing the endowment change the actual doctrine? If my you can change it then how can it actually be doctrine? This seems like it’s going against the saints who sacrificed their lives and died for this doctrine.
Honest question, but if Joseph Smith restored and revealed the fullness of the gospel, including the temple ceremony, why has it changed so many times over the years? If God and his gospel is the same yesterday, today, and forever, why the change? These changes imply either God changes or his “prophets” have made mistakes in ordinances, or these changes are simply from man and not God. Lastly, where is the “revelation” from God giving modern prophets (i.e. Nelson) the instruction, permission, and authority to change the temple ordinance?
I know that as a more recent convert to the church (having been baptized in October 2018) I would say that the DOCTRINE of God has not changed but His POLICIES do. The Termple ordinance would be considered a POLICY and not a DOCTRINE, I believe.
In 2019 the changes had to be made because Sterling Van Wagenen was put on trial and sentenced to 6 years to life for child molestation. (He was jailed in July of 2019) If you don't know who SVW is, he is the producer of the temple films that were new in 2013 or so. His story only came to light because Sean Escobar was a victim who came forward after recording SVW. It's all very dark and worrisome that the church knew of his behavior, basically did nothing and then still allowed him to produce the temple films. The good news is you can look all this up yourself, listen to Sean's story and hear SVW himself on audio trying to explain and apologize to Sean.
Would love you do discuss why we get a new name and about the husband raising the wife from the grave. I do not understand this as Jesus tells us he is the only one who can raise us???
@TempleLight, what about the changes to the creation chronology. I always thought that it was interesting that the endowment's creation chronology was different than what is presented in both Genesis and the Joseph Smith translation of Genesis. Now, it is changed to go along with the scriptures. Where can I turn to find out more information about this? Why was it different and why has it now changed? Thanks
Sometimes I wish I was on a temple committee of some kind so I can present some ideas on what to change to make it smooth and polished. But, maybe it will be the millennium before I get the chance.
When you do, will you please ask them to include the Mother in Heaven? I'd love to learn more about my eternal role model and her role in the creation!
Something that confuses me about the temple ordinances is part of the sacrifices and the temples and the old law was before Christ… after Christ there shouldn’t be any rituals, convenants, requirements added to the new law of Christ…
Only if there are many patrons. A very small Temple could do this with one officiator, one follower, and a couple of men for the veil. (The Follower and the Officiator could do double duty as hosts for the patron side of the veil.)
I haven't been yet! I'm going on Friday. But dear friends, I'm a little apprehensive when I hear mention of the war in heaven -- the time when Lucifer - a son of the morning turned on us, and on Christ and Heavenly Father and Mother. D&C 76 says that the heavens wept. Yeah we wept. We cried, and it wasn't cries of sadness, it was cries of fear and terror. We had never known fear or terror. How could our friend, who we trusted, and who we esteemed like we esteemed Christ, turn and say such mean things? How could a son of the morning turn and accuse even Heavenly Father and Christ of the terrible things he accused them of? Why? Yeah we cried, it scared us like no other. Do any of us remember? No, we don't. I don't know, sometimes I wonder if I personally knew Lucifer? I don't know, no idea, sometimes it just seems like it's right there near the surface for me. So we'll see what comes up for me this Friday. But anyway... I'm sure this is not what all these changes are about. I think it's so cool that a room full of ultra conservative old men (or so we think) can be so bold and "progressive"! Heehee😉 I remember when music was first added to the presentation of the endowment. It actually took a little getting used to - like - I'm not here to be entertained. Yet it was so moving. So cool! I love this church! I love the temple! It's my spiritual day spa! 😁 Peace to you all! No more falling asleep during a session! Ok? ❤
Thank you for your positive words. I've never felt or pictured that the heavens wept in terror at the casting out of Satan and his hosts, but wept in sadness at losing a formerly dear brother. Those with love and faith in Christ need not/should not fear (love casts out fear). Maybe I am wrong and you are right; maybe we both are wrong; maybe we both are right; etc. Please, let's not argue, though. Be well, brother!
