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Motocross Action tests the 2023 Honda CRF450R at Glen Helen Raceway. The 2023 isn't all new but does have revisions to the mapping, power, frame, and suspension. We give you the most detailed review the industry has to offer on every new motorcycle that releases. That includes the 2023 Honda CRF450R. Will the changes made bump it up in the pecking order? What are the dyno numbers in comparison to the 2022 model? What do we hate? What do we love? We answer all these questions and more in this video.
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Комментарии : 191   
@morley3810
@morley3810 Год назад
I don't care how good it is...I'd buy one just to go out to the garage and look at it. What a beauty of a bike.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Год назад
Agreed. Tho the Yamaha /Kawasaki/ Suzuki are equally beautiful!
@levisalvini4110
@levisalvini4110 Год назад
She is so pretty... I agree 💯 percent with you.
@jamieargent7139
@jamieargent7139 Год назад
I'll send you a pic of my Suzuki she a nice looking bike all my buddies and Brothe have 22 hondas yet everytime we stop people run to check out my 19 Rmz with a kick start and led light no battery she was in a photoshoot call her the photo he lol I crashed it a few times it's still nice tho and all over those Hondas
@patrickrodriguez320
@patrickrodriguez320 Год назад
It think the rmz takes the cake for aesthetics. With the aggressive plastic.the Yellow, blue, white look too good
@loganransonet4303
@loganransonet4303 Год назад
bro fr im not even tall enough
@andrewmarshall360
@andrewmarshall360 Год назад
It does look sweet! Any new 450 has more than enough power for mere mortals . Except the other 2% which I happen to be, only problem is I’m in the bottom 2% .
@drz22xx77
@drz22xx77 Год назад
i like MOOOOR POOOOOOWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
@elcucuygarage
@elcucuygarage 10 месяцев назад
Nice! 😂
@moodyshooty
@moodyshooty Год назад
the throwback edition is quite possibly the most beautiful 450 in existence.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Год назад
Grab one. I don't like it at all be honest.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Год назад
It's pretty but not my cup of tea.
@jamesc6137
@jamesc6137 Год назад
I plan on buying this rig on looks alone. Reminds me of the early 80’s color way. I’ll be the one riding this with my son on the trails… I’ll be that guy.
@hygrometer
@hygrometer Год назад
its perfect. the 450r was great with some mods in 2005, now its just great stock too
@joenobody2580
@joenobody2580 Год назад
Love the blue seat and gold rims
@andy5786
@andy5786 Год назад
Thanks for bringing CRF 450 2023 nice bike motor cross action magazine 👍💯
@chrisvozza6530
@chrisvozza6530 Год назад
I love the vintage look!
@rochellestanley9532
@rochellestanley9532 Год назад
Love the 80’s livery 🤙🇺🇸
@jetdr
@jetdr Год назад
I love the look of the Bike, I wish they would all go back to the 80's look. I miss the Yellow yz's
@motoxmatt
@motoxmatt Год назад
Nice review Josh! keep up the great work!
@keithpeterson6108
@keithpeterson6108 Год назад
Josh is the worst bike reviewing guy there is. Contradiction king.
@kennyrichard2971
@kennyrichard2971 Год назад
Wow Beautiful bike Now imagine it with a two stroke 250 or 500
@daviddewees6073
@daviddewees6073 Год назад
Beautiful editing guys.
@jedielder7970
@jedielder7970 Год назад
Thanks for the honest video. 57 horsepower should be plenty for 90% of the amateur's out there. If you are a top pro, you will be doing some modifications on your new showroom bike, anyway. I didn't hear anything really bad or that can't be fixed easily. Watching you ride, that bike does turn like a champ. It's beautiful and probably bullet proof, as most Honda's are. I look forward to see all the 450's and 250's go head to head in MA's shootouts. BTW, I love the look of the bike.
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
To bad the Torque is so week. Maybe 35ftlbs. My Lawnmower has more than that
@jedielder7970
@jedielder7970 Год назад
@@dennismillus4581 How much lower is that compared to other 450's in its class? I'm sure it's more than enough for me nowadays lol. Thanks for the reply.
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
@@jedielder7970 the 450 4pukes have about 12 to 15ftbs less than a Stock CR500.
@jedielder7970
@jedielder7970 Год назад
@@dennismillus4581 Oh, I used to ride a CR500... they are untamed beasts, lol, a real man's bike so to speak.
@jedielder7970
@jedielder7970 Год назад
@@JetSkiSuper7 Oh, I totally agree with you... I've raced both and I would pick a 450 just about every time, for it it much easier to ride and stay fresher on.
@browie316
@browie316 Год назад
Since when do we refer to dyno hp as "faster" or "slower"? With that logic the most powerful bike will always be the fastest. 👎
@microsoft790
@microsoft790 Год назад
yeah seriously, its the torque curve that really makes the bikes faster or slower than the others. it isnt at all about peak numbers and it seems like the manufacturers are realizing that and making the motors more manageable.
@eb972
@eb972 Год назад
HP sells. Torque wins
@bikersoncall
@bikersoncall Год назад
I want to see torque and hp sheets, review the power band, manufacturers are scared to death to put out Dyno sheets, test results. So yeah, I agree, we don't just want to see what happens at 13k rpm, we want to see the dyno sheets.
@buddysumner4022
@buddysumner4022 Год назад
Not always
@buddysumner4022
@buddysumner4022 Год назад
I bet u anything if ktm or husky came out with less hp the mxa guys would say it’s faster, but everyone noes they are bought and payed buy ktm group,
@86309
@86309 Год назад
great review!
@jth_printed_designs
@jth_printed_designs Год назад
What fuel are you running? Crap CA pump gas? If you're getting detonation in map 3, you're likely getting some in map 2 as well, and that's why your dyno numbers drop off with each more aggressive map. They're advancing the timing more to make more torque but if you advance the timing too much you actually lose torque and therefore lose power. Retest using race fuel and your detonation issues will likely go away. Also, your humidity in CA is likely lower than what the bike was tuned for, and with dry air you have to pull timing.
@craigmccall7450
@craigmccall7450 Год назад
Glen Helen has a way of finding out if your setup sucks or not.... Thursday afternoons [especially] can have a couple bumps to test on. Good times!
@mxr248
@mxr248 Год назад
Funny you say you like the 3 map settings but last year or so I think it was you that said that you didn’t like the Yamaha and doing map adjustment cause it’s a waste of time! Lol funny thing is you go to rest and have plenty of time or pull off and it takes a couple of seconds. Plus the fact you can program 2 of them in it and later out others in it and save all of them on your phone. Huge difference in what you can do with their technology.
@johnnyhopkins7297
@johnnyhopkins7297 Год назад
Josh is like anti Yamaha. He complains about it being so wide but tomac isn’t having the slightest issue
@mxr248
@mxr248 Год назад
@@johnnyhopkins7297 ya also there have been other ppl that have measured it and there isn’t any difference.. My friend has the Kawasaki and jumped off his onto the Yamaha and he said he didn’t feel any difference. But after riding the Yamaha he wants one now. He said the power was better and longer, suspension was better and he loved how it handled..
@2216sammy
@2216sammy Год назад
@@mxr248 Tell him to wait until October the new 2023 YZ450 will be available and that thing is lighter slimmer more powerful and with a much improved mapping app .
@mxr248
@mxr248 Год назад
@@2216sammy I’m sure he will still complain cause he’s all about Ktm and it can be a complete piece of crap and he will say it’s great. Lol
@mxrevival
@mxrevival Год назад
Suzuki mapping philosophy 😍 #Usability ~ Great edit, J-Mo & Fant Man 🔥
@AntiPattern328
@AntiPattern328 Год назад
Glen Helen is probably the only place you can ride multiple bikes and tell a difference in HP.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Год назад
California for life!!! 🇺🇸
@hygrometer
@hygrometer Год назад
it looks great
@alpeters4857
@alpeters4857 Год назад
Love the look of the bike! Then again, I have a 87 CR500. That being said, it sounds like Honda has lost its way! I do appreciate an honest analysis though!
@dennis-vl2nz
@dennis-vl2nz Год назад
Beautiful!!! A work of art,!! Aaaahhh...... Honda!!!
@jconstantine505
@jconstantine505 Год назад
So for any of us that bought a '22 do we get a remap since it was still dirty?
@ipoopmuffins
@ipoopmuffins Год назад
this has always been the best color scheme/livery.
@rockinrabbi
@rockinrabbi Год назад
At 11:16 he mentions "detonation" feel w the engine in Map3. What is that?
@therusticcollectionebaysto7028
New sub ! Liked
@stevenrogers000
@stevenrogers000 Год назад
a work of art! you just cant beat hondas.
@herbcanter2114
@herbcanter2114 Год назад
Sure you can .
@JayDeeFrm7400
@JayDeeFrm7400 Год назад
the Lucas Oil/factory look gives me early 2000’s vibe
@johnmaratime6621
@johnmaratime6621 Год назад
He mentioned that the 2023 CRF 450 is considerably slower than last year. Does this effect top speed? I ride wide-open trails, so I am more concerned with higher speeds and maximum horsepower than I am with suspension and chassis adjustments.
@jamieargent7139
@jamieargent7139 Год назад
Very nice bike
@stevenniedermann3114
@stevenniedermann3114 Год назад
Man i would love a 50th anniversary edition of the crf450rl. I hate black rims.
@1176hambone
@1176hambone Год назад
Would higher octane correct the detonation in map 3?
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Год назад
Run race gas all the time and dont worry about it.
@bagargui
@bagargui Год назад
So what you are saying Josh is that the 2022 factory edition was identical to the 2023 model except that the WE had almost 4 extra hp.
@herbertpinheiro6616
@herbertpinheiro6616 Год назад
Coisa fina
@ZmannR2
@ZmannR2 Год назад
The new YZ450 is gonna slayyyyy
@MXJEFF94
@MXJEFF94 Год назад
It’ll be too loud, too big and too wide for MXA as always (even with a changed model this year).
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
@@MXJEFF94 Maybe for you...
@ZmannR2
@ZmannR2 Год назад
@@MXJEFF94 lmao truth!!
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 Год назад
When they start getting too skinny I do find it harder to grip.
@2216sammy
@2216sammy Год назад
@@MXJEFF94 Nope , it's perfection . It's going to kick major ass you watch.
@motorbike650
@motorbike650 2 месяца назад
Wow!..some great comments from some great chums!
@ba946x4
@ba946x4 Год назад
Why not do a factory edition?
@kokoromotomo6504
@kokoromotomo6504 Год назад
Cool...
@craig8037
@craig8037 Год назад
😎 cool
@stevepadilla9729
@stevepadilla9729 Год назад
This 450 looks lighter weight like a 250 looks great.
@bonnieclass
@bonnieclass Год назад
❤️🇺🇸
@greggo7978
@greggo7978 Год назад
Why on earth would a motorcycle manufacturer decrease the horsepower on a newer bike?This makes absolutely no sense,aspescially when others are Increasingly becoming lighter with the additional increase of the all important and crucial horse power. Well honda,you just became two ply.
@bknoxx
@bknoxx Год назад
i always wondered why you put graphics on test bikes ?? just bought a '22 yz but this new bike inspired me to sale my 05 yz250 i just finished 6k if anyone wants it lol... to build an 03-06 CR250 or 125 like this
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 Год назад
It better be completely rebuilt, crank, bearings seals. All new bearings chassis, freshened up suspension.
@bknoxx
@bknoxx Год назад
@@bloomerb4162 its on my IG same name go check it out.. lets see your ride homie
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 Год назад
@@bknoxx 2017 tc250 with 300 kit. 2022 150sx and tc 250. I don't do social media outside yt. Selling the tc 300 though.
@bknoxx
@bknoxx Год назад
@@bloomerb4162 nice.. I’d like to have a 150 that seems like a fun bike
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 Год назад
@@bknoxx yeah I heard so much about how fun they are. Hands down funnest bike I've ever rode. It's so light and the power is just enough. The power feels like you can't really get into trouble on it and doesn't wear you out. The 300 might be too much for my skill level. It feels like a tractor compared to 250, quite a bit more power.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Год назад
Hoping for improvements to '23 RMZ450 be honest. It's a gorgeous bike an good for 90% of us out here. Everyone knows Suzuki can build a fire breather if they want to!
@mikestanly749
@mikestanly749 Год назад
Paint it red it might HELP??? 😂😂😂😂
@Davido50
@Davido50 Год назад
@mike stanly Not a Honda guy. I would go KTM 450SXF for next new bike. Just hopin Suzuki comes out w/a killer new 450. They can do it.
@FMFx23
@FMFx23 11 месяцев назад
I’m torn on this or the gasgas
@djmiller5563
@djmiller5563 Год назад
Honda fan boy here; it pains me to know that the worlds largest motorcycle manufacturer, with the biggest R&D budget, cannot even duplicate what they made 13 years ago...makes no sense at all. Gotta win more than just the beauty pageant.
@AntiPattern328
@AntiPattern328 Год назад
Wow! Engine mounts already rusty??? That doesn't make me feel good.
@branw341
@branw341 Год назад
Man all these tests sounds good but why does my 2022 feel better then the 2023 lol stock vs stock weird u were like stay away from map 3 lol ima use the he'll out of map 3 now just to bring it back to honda good thing my hr meters say KTM lol 😆 🤣 but it's all good u gotta be a rider an mechanic now doesn't bother me anyone can win Lorettas 😉 RIP Loretta Lynn crazy I remember alot about amateur racing and Darren Walsh might start racing again have fun 2024 ;)
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 Год назад
Big dyno numbers to another channel I watch. Sure there is variation from dyno to dyno of course. If your not close to the stock weight for suspension, then it's never probably going to feel good.
@kochj0713
@kochj0713 Год назад
All we have in MN is nothing but HARD sharp bumps.
@timothykamholz7222
@timothykamholz7222 Год назад
Why is it such a big company as Honda, they cannot produce a bike with great suspension. I just don't get it. It's always the same complaint year after year. SMH.
@S0RELOSER
@S0RELOSER Год назад
Because their marketing department has a huge say in how the bike is setup so it has a certain look on the showroom floor. Sounds crazy i know. But it’s true.
@timothykamholz7222
@timothykamholz7222 Год назад
@@S0RELOSER This makes no sense. Bike could still look same with proper spring rates, and valving.
@S0RELOSER
@S0RELOSER Год назад
@@timothykamholz7222 a softer spring with stinkbug will feel too wallowy when customers sit on the bike. They want it tall in the rear and to feel stiff. I doesnt have to make sense to you or me. It only has to make sense to Honda’s marketing department. They have final say over R&D.
@Garcia.offroad
@Garcia.offroad Год назад
Estaría genial pero matriculada así no genera muchas ventas
@jacobwestcott4536
@jacobwestcott4536 Год назад
By the end of this video i needed a box of tissues, the music was just so moving……
@adamlitler9677
@adamlitler9677 Год назад
Some nice rust already showing through on the engine mounts and rear shock main body 😜 makes me want to go out and buy a Honda right now
@cbry2555
@cbry2555 Год назад
WoW hydro-static planetary automatic transmission .With the buoyacy emulator claim at your closest ama race !
@MitchConner509
@MitchConner509 Год назад
Hondas are the new bike Kyles are trading their quads in on and driving around with in the back of their lifted short bed truck. They want the dual pipes back, twice as much power at least.
@Kyle-pl6rl
@Kyle-pl6rl Год назад
Me and my homies kiss in the bro-dozer
@MitchConner509
@MitchConner509 Год назад
@@Kyle-pl6rl best reply of 2022 well done
@dg1019
@dg1019 Год назад
Oh no you dint!! Lol
@rockyesterline7942
@rockyesterline7942 Год назад
My new 2022 CRF 450 RL rides as stiff as a mini bike with no suspension or a covered wagon do not ever ever take that off road I put $4,000 of upgrades in it already had $900 of work done to the suspension hardly helped at all s t i f f as a 2x4 but great on the street and my new pipe and ECU and Supercross tires low mirrors other than that it looks great and also got the hell rid of that back license plate that hangs down to the street hopefully the shop that did my suspension will do it all over again revolve it again and Springs
@rogershipman3578
@rogershipman3578 Год назад
A 50th anniversary should have seen a limited edition full on works bike in these same colors. Honda AMA 450/250 Pro Motocross Champions 2004: Ricky Carmichael (CRF450R) 2003: Ricky Carmichael (CR250R) 2002: Ricky Carmichael (CR250R) 1995: Jeremy McGrath (CR250R) 1992: Jeff Stanton (CR250R) 1991: Jean-Michel Bayle (CR250R) 1990: Jeff Stanton (CR250R) 1989: Jeff Stanton (CR250R) 1987: Rick Johnson (CR250R) 1986: Rick Johnson (CR250R) 1983: David Bailey (RC250) 1982: Donnie Hansen (RC250) 1973: Gary Jones (RC250 Elsinore) Honda AMA 250/125 Motocross Champions 2021: Jett Lawrence (CRF250R) 2013: Eli Tomac (CRF250R) 2010: Trey Canard (CRF250R) 1996: Steve Lamson (CR125R) 1995: Steve Lamson (CR125R) 1994: Doug Henry (CR125R) 1989: Mike Kiedrowski (CR125R) 1988: George Holland (CR125R) 1987: Micky Dymond (CR125R) 1986: Micky Dymond (CR125R) 1985: Ron Lechien (RC125) 1983: Johnny O’Mara (RC125) 1975: Marty Smith (RC125) 1974: Marty Smith (RC125)
@jedielder7970
@jedielder7970 Год назад
Oh yeah! Beautiful.
@TheFastphill
@TheFastphill Год назад
thanks that's a lot of champions
@chrisalamangos140
@chrisalamangos140 Год назад
American Honda should rehire Dave Arnold to build a perfect Honda .
@mark8931
@mark8931 Год назад
bella...ma serve un monocilindro a 2 tempi al posto del 4
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 Год назад
Same story as always frames to stiff suspension sucks. O and I can pay 10k so I can blow the motor cause of the ’click’
@pr00shit
@pr00shit Год назад
Engine mounts changed from aluminum to rust
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 Год назад
They come pre rusted for added flex.
@chrischrestensen3885
@chrischrestensen3885 Год назад
Just add Krylon in a titanium color -- LOL
@nativeamerican7424
@nativeamerican7424 Год назад
We need 2 strokes n kick starts 🥺
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Год назад
People who like winning.
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
In other words it's a Perfect Chassi for a CR500AF build. It's funny you never mention how lame the Torque Power is... It's time to contact Aj Waggoner at Built500af.. you guys know you will loose brownie points from Honda and or All brands. If you actually made an Honest Video. Telling the Truth of how slow these 450 4pukes are.
@ryanmalec4234
@ryanmalec4234 Год назад
What kind of bike do u got?
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
@@ryanmalec4234 I purchased a 2010 Service Honda CR500AF brand new from Service Honda. 2010.. I have owned a total of four CR500'S. 3 steelies as well as my AF.
@ryanmalec4234
@ryanmalec4234 Год назад
That's cool..I have a 2001 kx 500 for 21years..and my 2022 cfr450r is faster then it..not to mention the cr 500's that I have raced
@ryanmalec4234
@ryanmalec4234 Год назад
For u to say crf450r's r slow..is straight ass talking!!!!
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
@@ryanmalec4234 your ass comment is Proof you never rode a 500cc two stroke. Hell you probably never seen one.
@amanteapasionado6836
@amanteapasionado6836 Год назад
I don't really like it, now if they would have made a replica of the original with a 2 stroke motor than maybe it would be an alright. But being a bike lover, I'd rip it.
@xipingpooh5783
@xipingpooh5783 Год назад
Bold New Graphics😴💤
@eliassantana45
@eliassantana45 Год назад
A dinheiro meu Deus 😏😏😏😏😌😢😥
@kenharris8743
@kenharris8743 Год назад
Why did he have to diss two strokes if two strokes were still around they blow away four strokes with the modern snowmobile technology
@ni212
@ni212 Год назад
🇮🇩🙋‍♂🙏Done
@bikersoncall
@bikersoncall Год назад
Give me adjustable valves Honda.
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 Год назад
Detonation on a $10k new motorcycle? That shouldnt happen at a modern company like Honda.
@robsonsantos9971
@robsonsantos9971 Год назад
✌😎🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@mountainmandale1587
@mountainmandale1587 Год назад
Nothing like dragging it out just to say a whole lot of not much. Jeez, getting paid by the word or something? Meh.
@FamilyMXTV
@FamilyMXTV Год назад
Let me know what you think of my built 2023 CRF450R on my channel! Would love the feedback! 🤘
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
Yet again Honda of Japan makes us realize. We will never be truly happy with the power until they correct thier mistakes. Which just happens to be in thier faces. You can see it in the expressions from the designers and all those who ride it. Yup, they see CR500 Two Stroke. They dream of the CR500AF....
@chrischrestensen3885
@chrischrestensen3885 Год назад
Gets old MXA. Never satisfied. Job t sure why they even give you bikes to test.
@gregducati999
@gregducati999 Год назад
make a 2stroke honda, 2 strokes are KTM's biggest sellers.
@dennismillus4581
@dennismillus4581 Год назад
🐢 🐢 🐢
@dustin9035
@dustin9035 Год назад
It's Sexy AF!
@Diggymc1
@Diggymc1 Год назад
them plastics are not 80s dont care what anyone says
@marquinhosmotocross9021
@marquinhosmotocross9021 Год назад
#18🇧🇷😍✊🔥🚀.
@user-st4wr7ve8j
@user-st4wr7ve8j Год назад
นัวรัฐ47
@caydenthompson126
@caydenthompson126 Год назад
2nd worst bike
@davidgledhilljr71
@davidgledhilljr71 Год назад
WOW! THAT LOOKS SICK! SLAP A CR250 MOTOR IN THAT ABD PERFECT. HONDA MAKE THE CR250 AGAIN FOR GOD SAKES ENOUGH WITH THESE TRANS DIRT BIKES. FOUR STROKES. LOL.
@hallbossindustries1820
@hallbossindustries1820 Год назад
Not sure how I feel about the sissy background music.
@mototrials582
@mototrials582 Год назад
How about the motorcycle? Are you unsure of that as well? Maybe there is a different website you can go to that discusses your musical preferences
@hallbossindustries1820
@hallbossindustries1820 Год назад
@@mototrials582 calm down son.
@Getman43
@Getman43 Год назад
@@mototrials582 its called "comments" for a reason. people "comment" (theres that word again) their preferences about the video.
@keithpeterson6108
@keithpeterson6108 Год назад
I definitely know how I feel about this sissy music....it sucks. So does MXA & this douche reviewing the bike.
@ronaldtravis970
@ronaldtravis970 Год назад
Give us a Two Stroke . None of those color changes are a big deal.
@GarbageDanks
@GarbageDanks Год назад
Sounds like a turd. Bring back the 2 strokes Honda!
@Blueovalnation
@Blueovalnation Год назад
Junk
@mikestanly749
@mikestanly749 Год назад
RIDE RED
@matthewtoes6433
@matthewtoes6433 Год назад
KTM 350 f has more power why up date something and make it worse Or not as good detonation shouldn't Happen on a bike that costs as much as that one Honda has lost there edge over the competition
@amacoutdoors2076
@amacoutdoors2076 Год назад
I know I am in the minority, but I think it's ugly.
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Год назад
Nah, I'll stay with my CR500 thats still faster.
@robbierolly453
@robbierolly453 Год назад
Nice but the gas gas looks sick
@StandlyRichards25
@StandlyRichards25 Год назад
You lost me at the price 🤣
@michaelscholtz9
@michaelscholtz9 2 месяца назад
Ruined the video we want to hear the bike not you talking the whole time
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