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2023 Kia Telluride Vs. 2023 Honda Pilot - The Rugged Family SUV Showdown - Redline: Comparison Test 

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Rugged adventure SUV's are exactly what buyers are looking for today. That same capability has been making its way onto the 3-row family SUV segment. The 2023 #KiaTellurideXPro and 2023 #HondaPilotTrailsport are two of the newest rugged options and while the #PilotTrailsport has been fully redesigned, the #TellurideXPro still represents one of the best in the segment, despite being on the market since 2020. For about $50,000 to spend, which one of these two family SUV's is the better buy?
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@theredline
@theredline Год назад
The Kia Telluride has been the no-brainer choice for a 3-row family SUV for the past 3 years, however today we pit it against the redesigned Honda Pilot! For around $50,000 to spend, which one of these would you choose? Let us know below!
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
Telluride is better but the pilots the safest most pragmatic choice.
@nucleargrizzly1776
@nucleargrizzly1776 Год назад
I keep vehicles far too long to take a chance on a KIA.
@panhuragan4388
@panhuragan4388 Год назад
If you want to drive more than 20k miles pick Honda
@darkivaz-aaa1145
@darkivaz-aaa1145 Год назад
KIA's reliability is way better than Hondas. So KIA is a better choice.
@panhuragan4388
@panhuragan4388 Год назад
@@darkivaz-aaa1145 where did you get this information from? 😂
@Supercruze
@Supercruze Год назад
Thanks for the direct comparison of these two vehicles. My wife and I are considering one of these two utilitarian SUVs for our next car to replace my wife's 2015 Acura MDX. Will definitely be looking at the Pilot Elite. Will also consider the Acura MDX and Genesis GV80.
@brett233
@brett233 Год назад
It really depends what you want. These two options have a lot more space inside than an MDX and a GV80. The Telluride has more features while the Pilot will be more reliable and has better driving dynamics. Also if you need 8 seats, Pilot Elite all the way.
@abdullah79195
@abdullah79195 Год назад
If you’re going to consider a pilot elite, do hop over to the Acura dealer and look at an mdx tech. Better styling, premium brand, and similar price.
@brett233
@brett233 Год назад
@@abdullah79195 that’s a great car but its $5k more and has a few less features. Also non touch screen with annoying touchpad, much higher maintenance costs, premium gas and higher insurance. Lots of other factors that make owning an MDX (or any luxury brand) more expensive than just the price you buy it for. The Pilot is much bigger inside and seats 8. That could be a big factor. Also to get the same features as the Pilot Elite, you’d need to go for the MDX Advanced which is $12k more. The Tech package is missing a bunch of features, that’s why it’s comparatively priced.
@mrtyrang
@mrtyrang Год назад
If you don't need the space and can afford it, I would go MDX all day long. My sister-in-law has a 2012 MDX and it drives a lot better and quieter than my 2017 Pilot EX-L.
@brett233
@brett233 Год назад
@@mrtyrang fair but your Pilot is cheaper to maintain and takes regular gas. Both still big deals. For me I need the space and the Pilot gives a lot more than the MDX.
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 Год назад
Six fixes for the refresh that Honda ought to do and it will be crushing it: a hybrid component in Honda's V6 engine for better fuel consumption, some better leather interior color options across all trims, a 12" entertainment screen, improved Honda sensing technology, improved sound deadening, and the option to have captain or bench seating in the 2nd row in all trims. Do this, Honda, and you'll be crushing this segment in sales.
@averagejoe112
@averagejoe112 6 месяцев назад
The very poor infotainment screen was the reason I didn't get a pilot elite
@redcapote4760
@redcapote4760 6 месяцев назад
@@averagejoe112 You act like it's a 2004 Infiniti or something. It's fine, there's nothing wrong with it. I bought a 2024 Pilot Trailsport last week. The only thing I don't love is that the backup camera is a fisheye lens instead of a standard lens, whereas my 2020 Accord had a nice 180 degree view that was more useful. The fisheye makes for a strange view, but the overhead view makes up for all of that, and comes in handy in all parking situations. Otherwise these are big, comfy, spacious SUV's, and mine did great on the sand at the beach the other day in sand mode.
@averagejoe112
@averagejoe112 6 месяцев назад
@@redcapote4760 at the trailsport price point it's fine. At the elite price point I think it's overshadowed in luxury, technology, and comfort by other brands. The fit and finish is great though.
@robertgonzalez7321
@robertgonzalez7321 Год назад
My aunt had a 2020 Telluride LX (Base) & in 3 years she put over 100k miles. Never had a issue. She has now upgraded to a 2024 Telluride SX prestige. I have a 2019 Kia Forte EX with 98k miles never had a issue. My Dad Has a 2021 Sorento SX prestige with 80k miles no problems & my mother upgraded to a new Sportage SX from a 2017 Sonata with 227k miles . We are a big Kia/Hyundai Family & never had problems with Kia &/or Hyundai. They have stepped up big time! Take care of your car and be precise with oil changes / maintenance & they will last forever!
@robertblack6630
@robertblack6630 Год назад
Last forever....😂 I'm glad you had good luck within your family but Hyundai "KIA" power train qaulity is still a major issue. The spend more time in tech features then quality with engines and transmissions sadly. I want them to build 300k mile engine and transmission combo that the Pilot has always been and so far that's not the case to many major flaws in design. I have 235k miles on my 2005 Pilot still drives better then most new SUVs and power train is smooth. So KIA sells you bling instead reliability great for a lease but terrible for long term purchase sorry there moving to EV's so appears they will never hit Honda or Toyota Reliablity.
@Quandtimus
@Quandtimus Год назад
@@robertblack6630clearly not the case for her
@Okoro17
@Okoro17 Год назад
​@@robertblack6630And my brother has a Kia Spectra with 212,000 miles with no mechanical issues. It still runs like a new car. I don't know why you are trying to troll but it is quite a bit tacky of you.
@Ricky-mo6mv
@Ricky-mo6mv Год назад
@@robertblack6630 Why would anyone want to drive the same vehicle for 18 years? That’s the kind of car you give away to your niece when she gets her license. Or just pick any young kid that needs a mode of transportation.
@notsodelusional
@notsodelusional Год назад
@@Ricky-mo6mvTo save money, because the vehicle still runs well. Doh
@Jgjginkg244
@Jgjginkg244 Год назад
Telluride >> Pilot Honda going cheap interior materials relying on their name reputation can go so much. Kia is a clear winner here.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
No Honda has very high quality materials and excellent fit / finish. Kia is better but Hondas right up there
@Jgjginkg244
@Jgjginkg244 Год назад
@@naveenthemachine we are Honda family but Japanese car makers need to step up. For your reality check, please go to car dealers and drive some of them and stop being a keyboard warrior. Seriously go test drive these cars and you will the know difference. Yes, Korean car prices has gone up but so did everyone else’s car and you still get more for Korean cars and we are not taking about free floor mats either.
@ryankern7943
@ryankern7943 4 месяца назад
I drove both of these cars(telluride multiple times), telluride sx prestige xpro and the pilot trail sport. The pilot is more solid, no question. The Kias drive quality and road noise absolutely does not compare to the pilot.
@andressalami4186
@andressalami4186 Год назад
Never did I think the day will come when a Kia will have a better interior than a Honda😮
@joeldawson83
@joeldawson83 Год назад
2023 and Kia is killing it. Honda remains the most boring auto maker. Kia is bringing the warranty and reliability at a discount to the Hondas.
@bradIeyscarreviews
@bradIeyscarreviews Год назад
Do not buy kia or hyundai. They will BOOM 💣💣💥💥
@tigerjonn
@tigerjonn Год назад
They had better interiors for years now...,
@dave_riots
@dave_riots Год назад
It would've made more sense to compare the Telluride to the CX-90. You buy those two because they're nice, and come loaded with tech. You buy the Honda Pilot because it works.
@Lucky8s
@Lucky8s Год назад
It makes sense to compare any vehicle in the same category. Being opinionated doesn't change that.
@dave_riots
@dave_riots Год назад
@@Lucky8s Well I mean, it's a somewhat of an unfair comparison here. The KIA Telluride is marketed as being between a mainstream and premium brand, while the Honda Pilot is marketed towards mainstream buyers.
@Lucky8s
@Lucky8s Год назад
@@dave_riots Both are part of the mainstream segment so the comparison is fair. Buyers will cross shop between these vehicles. It's like the CX-5 and RAV4. Some people hold the same opinion as yourself, that the CX-5 is marketed as more premium, but buyers still cross shop it with the RAV4 regardless and many forgo it's marketed features in favour of the RAV4.
@DM72513
@DM72513 Год назад
I forgot the other ones don’t work.
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 Год назад
​@@dave_riotskia and premium😂😂
@gabevillarreal96
@gabevillarreal96 Год назад
Ill take the pilot too!!! Also in 5 years my pilot will be worth way more. That doesn't matter to everyone but it does to me. I have a 2015 Honda Accord EX-L V6 Coupe with an in house Honda made 6 speed automatic and was offered 16k at a dealer. My sisters equivalent Hyundai sonata was offered 6k. Same mileage. You simply cannot compare the two brands quality standards. Especially over the last 65 years! Hyundai kia have been around that long.
@shady80s22
@shady80s22 Год назад
Factual
@D0NTsmokeCRACK
@D0NTsmokeCRACK 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful review. I wish that Honda would make a trail sport package on an elite trim. That would be a great combo and would make for a much more even matchup
@DM72513
@DM72513 Год назад
Wireless CarPlay/AA isn’t a saving grace dude. You can buy a wireless dongle for every vehicle that has wired CarPlay/AA. It’s a non-factor.
@druharper
@druharper Год назад
Very comprehensive. Solid. Thank you.
@jiet123
@jiet123 2 месяца назад
hey guys, my 2024 pilot has 8k on the odometer (KMs) but its mileage sucks... it's consuming 14L per 100 KM... this is the first time I've bought an 8-seater so want to know if the fuel consumption gets better with time? perhaps after the first service? LMK. Thanks.
@thegamerbrotherman2399
@thegamerbrotherman2399 2 дня назад
They are decent freeway but suck fuel up city driving.
@TheHummingBirdJaiye
@TheHummingBirdJaiye Год назад
Kia Telluride hands down. Kia has stepped their game up in several categories and still impresses me
@andersonrodriguez8258
@andersonrodriguez8258 Год назад
If u going to lease but keeping for 5+ years pilot Kia junky engines bd transmissions
@TheHummingBirdJaiye
@TheHummingBirdJaiye Год назад
@andersonrodriguez8258 not necessarily. I've had mine for over five years and no issues. Keep in mind cars are man made tech. Anything can go wrong with any car regardless with how good or bad reputation is. Depends on what you are looking for. Not all Kia/Hyundai vehicles suffer the same fate.
@Tinrs80
@Tinrs80 Год назад
@@TheHummingBirdJaiyea Telluride for 5 years? if thats what your talking about its not been out 5 bro.. maybe u meant something else.
@darkivaz-aaa9963
@darkivaz-aaa9963 Год назад
@@Tinrs80 It was debuted in March 2019. So technically it's been 5 years bro. Do the math
@KLH9972
@KLH9972 Год назад
@@darkivaz-aaa9963 🤔
@Scout602
@Scout602 Год назад
The Honda will last forever idk about the Kia.
@darkivaz-aaa1145
@darkivaz-aaa1145 Год назад
Wrong. These Hondas will give up before KIA does.
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​@@darkivaz-aaa1145that kia would have 3 engine replacements under it's warranty.
@ganzonomy
@ganzonomy Год назад
The Kia will be found with the ignition switch missing and an 8gb USB drive jammed into the ignition key area.
@OmarHudson
@OmarHudson Год назад
Well I heard rumors that Honda has had many transmission issues in the past.
@ganzonomy
@ganzonomy Год назад
@@OmarHudson not rumors Truths, especially the automatics The manuals are excellent
@chargedx1
@chargedx1 8 месяцев назад
Quantity vs. quality. Kia gives you "more" for less. Honda gives you functionality/simplicity. Personally, given the choice between these two, I would choose the Pilot. If I wanted luxury, I would go more for the Acura mdx.
@MaximPowers
@MaximPowers Год назад
Pilot won, hands down!
@allthingssamsung1988
@allthingssamsung1988 Год назад
The Kia Telluride interior to me screams BMW X7 and that's a compliment and the HONDA I see a bit of styling from Acura (the luxury division) of Honda and that's also a compliment. If you want value go for KIA, if you want reliability go for HONDA; that's a fair point for both of these brands.
@Supercruze
@Supercruze Год назад
I have to say I own a Kia Stinger GT2 AWD and have owned it for 4 years and not one thing has gone wrong with it mechanically. I agree with you on Honda reliability but Kia/Hyundai/Genisis continue to score high if not higher in JD Power overall initial quality scores.
@toddgill2338
@toddgill2338 Год назад
False. Honda has a poor reliability record in recent years.... they actually had better reliability in the 1980's. Class action lawsuits on engines and transmissions over several models in the Honda lineup..... and this one is a 'new' engine and a completely new transmission. You are signing up as a guinea pig tester with ANY new model redesign. People are already looking for cylinder deactivation 'foil' hardware because of excess oil consumption concerns. Cylinder Management, I think they call it..... PC for shutting down the firing of some of the cylinders.... yeah.... like that idea hasn't been trouble for EVERY manufacturer that has employed it - including Honda.....
@jsac3939
@jsac3939 Год назад
I like both the Kia and the Honda but I would go with the grand highlander
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
The Kia and Hyundai are far superior to the grand highlander
@jsac3939
@jsac3939 Год назад
@@naveenthemachine haha Naveen, I specifically posted my comment hoping you would respond to it, haha.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
@@jsac3939 😆
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol Год назад
For practicality the GH is a pretty good choice. Has 23 cu-ft more behind 1st row than cx-90, and 10 cu-ft more than the pilot or hyundai twins The hybrid getting 37/34/36 beats all of them by 10mpg or more pretty crazy
@tomdrummy4984
@tomdrummy4984 Год назад
Honda for long term ownership
@okhera1
@okhera1 Год назад
Very Nice Bro!-Get Good People!
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 Год назад
The pilot's interior can give u depression attacks !!
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
My feelings exactly. All that dark and gloomy monotone and hard cheap plastics. A cheap rental car look.
@chaarleess
@chaarleess Год назад
Let's be honest here some people don't want an interior that's overwhelming all the time
@philipjacob2314
@philipjacob2314 Год назад
Funny thing is the pilot is actually a high quality feel to the touch although the design is too drab. My comparison was to palisades mid trim-which felt cheap and flimsy despite looking great.
@ronniegaucho10
@ronniegaucho10 Год назад
​@chaarleess how about 1 that's just half decent? 🥱
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 Год назад
@@philipjacob2314 the aesthetics in pilot look old AF seems like they just drew lines out of nowhere !!
@johnn.263
@johnn.263 Год назад
I just purchased the Honda pilot trailsport , I tested both. Love the Honda. Much better ride and more space inside. Runs better.
@shyennegilzean5692
@shyennegilzean5692 Год назад
Honda is just better in general ur gonna get reliability and good quality Kia and Hyundai catch on FIRE be were Kia/Hyundai owners
@Okoro17
@Okoro17 Год назад
Honda's have been known to catch fire too so what is your point?
@bradcolby3624
@bradcolby3624 Год назад
As far a long term reliability it’s the Pilot for me
@davidd1692
@davidd1692 Год назад
Kia definitely, better interior and looks less minivan like
@mgdulan4756
@mgdulan4756 Год назад
Kia Telli all the way! 💪🏼
@ganzonomy
@ganzonomy Год назад
I'll take a 4runner 😁
@georgesnyder5337
@georgesnyder5337 Год назад
Completely unrelated ... but cool story
@uludak8468
@uludak8468 Год назад
pass. i'll wait for the EV9
@Jojoba-wz6ri
@Jojoba-wz6ri Год назад
Pilot.
@grriceman782
@grriceman782 Год назад
Hondas are humdrum but Kias are unreliable and garbage. Good luck after 3 years
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
Aside from the center console, the Honda is a decade behind Kia.
@grriceman782
@grriceman782 Год назад
@@krane15 Possibly but the Honda will most likely last a decade longer than the Kia and cost much less to maintain.
@muhammadharits3237
@muhammadharits3237 Год назад
KPop is better than k-cars 😅😅😅
@martinz391
@martinz391 Год назад
You didn't mention the lumbar massage after 30 min of driving.
@kevonwalker8392
@kevonwalker8392 Год назад
Supeiced that the Kia did not caught on fire on u
@sammytaylor1911
@sammytaylor1911 Год назад
On the 2024 telluride, they went back to the amber daytime running lights!
@legend29ful
@legend29ful 9 месяцев назад
Kia has Honda beat on exterior styling and interior design. The new pilot looks like something from a few years ago.
@rajendramodusu5980
@rajendramodusu5980 Год назад
Honda pilot interior hahaha Its like 70's Even toyota 2023 hubrid highlander xLe has analog speedo Toyota and honda bastards are fooling in name of reliabilty card ( which no more will work) Wait few more months both will be sinking without trace ( lot of new cars coming in)
@HULK515
@HULK515 Год назад
I own a 2005 Honda Pilot 298,000 miles still drives like new such a Wonderful Vehicle I kept it and bought my Wife a 2023 Honda Pilot it’s Proven Long track Record ,best engineered
@ithinkihaveebola5238
@ithinkihaveebola5238 Год назад
Hahaha a kia?! That shit will not get u any hos. "Hey baby I drive a kia"
@ishaansaral502
@ishaansaral502 Год назад
People will tout Honda's reliability when they have significantly slipped every year. Toyota, Lexus and Mazda are currently and have remained the most reliable Japanese brands. Honda is nowhere close to them. Oil dilution issues, engine problems, gearbox issues, you name it but people will blindly praise Honda for being Japanese. The previous gen Pilot had average or below average with many issues depending on model year. This new Pilot has a new engine so reliability is not something you can just determine. The Telluride has high customer satisfaction with decent reliability due to the V6 and 8 speed. It's an amazing car, and the class leader since 2019 for a reason. The new Pilot didn't do enough to catch up with the Telluride. The CX-90 has compromised on practicality and has an all new engine with a poor gearbox. The Grand Highlander is the only vehicle worth considering with the Telluride and Palisade, but still lacks some of the extra features and luxury, though it at least has a hybrid engine as a big pro. With rumors of a brand new Palisade and Telluride in 2025 with a hybrid engine option, I think the Koreans will further their lead in this segment. It is absolutely insane to think both those cars debuted in 2019 as a first effort, and took over the market by a storm, while being ahead of their time. 4 years later, and they're still sought after and holding their own against brand new competitors. Their reliability has also improved with their new engines. Hyundai and Kia are making amazing cars, and here's hoping their reliability holds up.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
The pilot is more competitive than the grand highlander
@be4unvme
@be4unvme 8 месяцев назад
I see 15 year old pilots everywhere. I don't see old kias at all.
@RodolfoMendez-kd6mb
@RodolfoMendez-kd6mb 4 месяца назад
I'm glad I read this. now to do research on honda motor and trasnmission issues. I was leaning more towards 2024 pilot but now need more mechanic reviews. 2024 telluride prestige vs 2024 pilot elite. lets see which vehicle can last 200k miles.
@garykupitz1414
@garykupitz1414 Год назад
KIA goes all out in terms of exterior and interior design and value for the money. Honda just does what it has always done but is it enough anymore? Is this the best Honda can do? I don't think so....and I think many would agree this current Pilot could be so much more than it is.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
Honda at least tries to be truly competitive with Hyundai and Kia. There’s a reason Hondas the class leader in their categories
@lollmao9199
@lollmao9199 Год назад
Trust me Honda needed this new competition to get going , they got lazy for a bit but that’s what happens when you’re dominating the segment for so many years
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
@@lollmao9199 no they didn’t get lazy. Hondas a class leader. Why else are the civic accord crv ranked at the very top of the class? Because they’re ahead So you’re wrong. Hondas just fine. They’re more competitive to Hyundai Kia Mazda because they strive to try. That can’t be said for some brands
@jbar_85
@jbar_85 Год назад
All their new cars suck at Honda.
@Griffith861
@Griffith861 Год назад
Kia is better Toyota and Honda are boring
@ava9oh1282000
@ava9oh1282000 11 месяцев назад
It doesn't matter how "nice" the kia is.. compairing it to a Honda is just sad... The Honda will hold its value and be a reliable vehicle for 20+ years. The kia..well they have gotten better. but they are no Honda
@nbk46zh
@nbk46zh Год назад
Honda is very cheap and hasn't upgraded their interior for years. They want to nickel and dime you for every little thing. Their interior is so bland and boring. Also very deceptive with their MPG claims. Btw I have a 2022 Honda CRV hybrid.
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
When he touch it you can hear the sound of all that hard cheap plastic.
@bobbowie9350
@bobbowie9350 Год назад
14:07 looks a gen or two behind!
@shady80s22
@shady80s22 Год назад
Looks nearly identical to the last gen Accord.
@jamesbarbato2192
@jamesbarbato2192 Год назад
Easy choice Honda all day I’ll definitely last longer and be more reliable
@ck4797
@ck4797 Год назад
Wireless Android auto and Apple carplay can be easily achieved by adding a $50 add-on device from Amazon. I am using this device now and seems to work as reliably as a factory built wireless connection on other cars.
@darrendempsey6184
@darrendempsey6184 Год назад
Pilot without hesitation. Kia and Hyundai palisade look cheap
@th003g
@th003g Год назад
Funny that's the exact opposite of what was stated in the video.
@crosenthal82
@crosenthal82 Год назад
Keep up the good work Sofyan. I enjoy the comparison vids & more would be welcomed!
@georgesnyder5337
@georgesnyder5337 Год назад
Is it good though? It is pretty sloppy if you ask me...
@jamisonz3365
@jamisonz3365 Год назад
I would choose the Honda. The Pilot is the bigger vehicle, drives better, probably more reliable, better looking in my opinion and slightly more capable off road.
@chargedx1
@chargedx1 8 месяцев назад
The trailsport has a more advanced AWD system that comes from Acura
@louisverduzco851
@louisverduzco851 8 месяцев назад
Just got the Trailsport and love it. It drives great at freeway speeds and is more capable off road. Check out RU-vid off road tests. They say it's the best crossover off-road performance vehicle.
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 Год назад
Grand highlander 👑
@بياضالكفن
@بياضالكفن Год назад
Regardless KIA or HONDA, Congratulations man for 29 minutes nonstop continously talking ability... good luck
@thegoodman3810
@thegoodman3810 Год назад
Need a Toyota Grandhighlander comparison
@Yubuzka3774
@Yubuzka3774 Год назад
The Telluride has been out for years while the Pilot is all new and they still can't match the Telluride. It's just better.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
Nobody can beat the telluride unless it’s the x7 or GLS
@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 Год назад
Interesting perspective, but I have a feeling in 15 years you will not see the kia on the road. I actually don’t like either brand. But still. I have an 11 year old Volvo SUV that keeps going with all the other old ones.
@vonsgone
@vonsgone Год назад
@@2steaksandwiches665 to say in 15 years you wont see them on the road is incredibly unrealistic, and while I like volvo the past few years have been extremely challenging for the brand, admitted by them.
@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 Год назад
@@vonsgone sure it’s a hyperbole, but how many ancient Honda pilots do you see on the road, beat up and still going? I just don’t trust Kia and Hyundai as a brand yet. I drive a brand that is considered to be very unreliable Alfa Romeo. And yet recently with some quality scores it’s surprising everybody. I don’t buy cars necessarily for reliability. Most reliable cars are not terribly fun and I’m a drivers guy. Most mass produced cars that fall into the rental car category are fine for most people, but definitely not for me.
@2steaksandwiches665
@2steaksandwiches665 Год назад
@@vonsgone also, my Volvo is before they added touch screens. It’s the original XC 90. Those things are becoming like the old 240s in terms of longevity.
@fishbigfishchris
@fishbigfishchris 9 месяцев назад
Biggest thing he forgot is the pilot trailsport has a full size spare. Fantastic feature in a road trip car.
@Hercegovac.1
@Hercegovac.1 Год назад
KIA looks premium compared to Honda.
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
The Honda is so low that almost any car would.
@chriscline4292
@chriscline4292 Год назад
Kia continues to have problems with towing.
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
Don't be fooled, neither of these cars are true off-road vehicles. The minimum would be Hill Descent. Although not even that is real even when its offered.
@paulpambid2527
@paulpambid2527 Год назад
Your comparison is wrong, Acura vs Kia and Honda vs Hyundai is the correct orientation.
@trb1589
@trb1589 Год назад
the honda drives better, period. depends what u prefer in terms of design and content vs driving dynamics
@jbar_85
@jbar_85 Год назад
I think I would get the Kia and take the perceived reliability risk! It doesn’t even look like a Kia! It seems very nice! They’ve come a long way. Honda’s vehicles lately are very bland, boring, and full of CVTs!
@georgesnyder5337
@georgesnyder5337 Год назад
Who cares if Honda uses CVTs in other vehicles? This review has nothing to do with a lower end Civic. The Pilot has a traditional 10-speed auto.
@jbar_85
@jbar_85 Год назад
@@georgesnyder5337 good to know! I didn’t know that. Thanks for telling me!
@bnssoftware3292
@bnssoftware3292 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely. Honda really lost their way in the design department lately. The new Accord looks like ass.
@myfamilyy
@myfamilyy Год назад
Kia's warranty period is a no-brainer for me. I don't like the new kia headlights though 😢...if you can see pass that.
@michaeljones6413
@michaeljones6413 Год назад
I think I would go with a used 22 MDX over either one of these. If I had to pick one, I would go with the Pilot hands down. I own a Honda CRV and Toyota Highlander currently. I'm researching the Grand Highlander but I'm not sold on a 4 cylinder engine for such a large suv. I don't care about turbos. I actually think they shorten the life of the engine. I can't believe a turbo 4 cylinder could tow a 5k boat any distant without damage to the transmission. Not sold on the new Toyota's with all the 4 cylinder engines
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 Год назад
Trailer trucks are only 6 cylinders with humongous turbo. They tow tons. All the newer turbos are built for long term use. Turbos produce more torque for towing especially at lower RPM. Naturally Aspirated V6 have to whine out a lot in a higher RPM to hit the torque numbers to tow. So turbo engines work less to tow.
@michaeljones6413
@michaeljones6413 Год назад
@@ryanb8736 Thanks for the info. I learned something today so it's a good day. Be Bless
@al151
@al151 10 месяцев назад
Remember, MDX requires premium gas
@kyron2092
@kyron2092 Год назад
The Pilot's interior is a middle finger to consumers and loyal Honda customers. I love a simple interior but the Pilot's lacks effort. Honda can do better, they just chose not to.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
Nah the interior is well done in the elite trim. You can do worse
@kyron2092
@kyron2092 Год назад
@@naveenthemachine the elite isn't much better. Kia doesn't make you get the most expensive model for good design and features...
@ahill209
@ahill209 7 месяцев назад
Very informative comparison. I own a 2023 Kia Telluride and in mixed city/highway driving, I get almost 22 mpg. Your 18 must be based on mostly city driving. There are some quirky things about the Kia e.g. the engine cutoff when stopped, which you can turn off, but it always resets to on when you restart the vehicle. There are third party devices you can install that remembers you last setting. The lane keeping on the Telluride is kind of jerky. The car will wander to one side, then make a semi-aggressive turn to get back to center. Braking using adaptive cruise control to maintain distance to a car ahead of you can also be somewhat aggressive. The EX models do not have the front obstacle sensors, which is odd. Only the rear sensors for backing up. There are some other mechanical differences between the two (the fuel injection technology on the Honda keeps the lifters clean and hydraulic lifters on the Pilot don't require shimming when resetting the lifter clearances like on the Kia). The Kia engine has a timing chain vs. a timing belt on the Honda.
@Ricky-mo6mv
@Ricky-mo6mv Год назад
While Honda has been associated with quality and reliability in the past, they have also always rated at the bottom in terms of attractive design. I don’t think anyone will ever get over the moon patrol former generations of the CR-V. This Pilot is definitely a step in the right direction as well, but that just brings it to a level of not being unattractive. It just needs more creative and modern design cues to excite potential buyers. The Telluride has never failed to be exciting, and only gets better every time they refresh. Same goes for the Pilot interior which is definitely below average for this size SUV. The Telluride interior speaks for itself. It’s difficult to understand why some car companies are resilient to leaving the past behind us.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
But Honda is far more exciting than Toyota so there’s that
@Ricky-mo6mv
@Ricky-mo6mv Год назад
@@naveenthemachineYeah. I would actually agree with that. Despite the below average looks of the CR-V for many years, which is finally now much improved, I feel Honda wins the looks battle and has more satisfied customers overall. If I were to venture off from KIA/Hyundai though, I feel I would definitely pursue Mazda. I have before, but they were just too expensive for my budget. Just two months ago I got in a new lease for a 2023 Hyundai Tucson Limited for a phenomenal deal that kind of fell into my lap. Absolutely loving the dynamic looks, incredible ride quality, and upscale sleek interior.
@hedwards4599
@hedwards4599 Год назад
I 100% agree
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@naveenthemachinereally? The only thing honda has that’s interesting is the civic type r, meanwhile Toyota has the gr Corolla,supra and gr86 which are three different sports cars. And before you say “but Its not real Toyotas” While that is true for the supra and gr86 atleast Toyota chose two reputable brands to collaborate on low volume sports cars unlike honda which thought that collaborating with Gm one of the worst automakers in the auto industry just to make another cookie cutter crossover was a good idea 😂
@bnssoftware3292
@bnssoftware3292 9 месяцев назад
Agreed. The new Accord is hideous!
@elijah48
@elijah48 Год назад
Probably my favorite Redline video from 2023. Great job with the comparison!
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 Год назад
Honda really dropped the ball with the interior on the pilot. Not in my consideration set
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
But it’s still way better than the grand highlander so there’s that
@yuriboguslavsky8868
@yuriboguslavsky8868 Год назад
Actually drive both. You’ll pick the Honda. Unless you enjoy sloppy handling.
@1Minioner
@1Minioner Год назад
Also sloppy throttle response, and sloppy, floaty suspension. Enthusiasts will pick the Pilot 10 times out of 10 for feel alone. Most people have no connection with the cars they drive though, and driving feel means less than nothing to them. They just want a nice interior, and Kia has nailed that here.
@PresidentJackBauer
@PresidentJackBauer Год назад
The old telluride front end was better. These are not off road cars. Why do they even pretend? You can send that money on actual off road vehicles
@OmarHudson
@OmarHudson Год назад
But let's be honest....who is going off road. Most ppl don't.
@romeolopez757
@romeolopez757 Год назад
Kia Telluride all the way!…
@gordjohnson70
@gordjohnson70 8 месяцев назад
Korean vs Japanese ??? 🤔 It's a no brainer. 🤣
@louisverduzco851
@louisverduzco851 8 месяцев назад
Just got the Trailsport and love it. It drives great at freeway speeds and is more capable off road. Check out RU-vid off road tests. They say it's the best performing crossover off-road. So if you want cushy comfort, go for the Kia. If you want more rugged looks and off-road performance and a great engine, get the Pilot.
@21Piloteer
@21Piloteer Год назад
I'll throw the Telli a bone. It does have a much classier interior.
@brokeboy87
@brokeboy87 Год назад
I would probably go with the Kia SX- Prestige. The reliability and build quality have improved significantly over other Kia in the past.
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c Год назад
When you say reliability how long / many miles do you keep your car to care about that? Also have you seen the engine failure with Kia ? I like Kia But let’s not pretend the NEW kias are better than the OLD ones. PREE 2011 Kia was better. They didn’t improve reliability it actually went down and their trying to rekindle it.
@vonsgone
@vonsgone Год назад
@@Natethegreat200c *they're
@Okoro17
@Okoro17 Год назад
​@@Natethegreat200cAnd are you talking about the 2013-14 models that were made in Alabama and had the 4 cylinder engine? Because those were known to be problematic. This is a V6 and beyond 2013-14. Kia vehicles have been known to reach 300,000 miles or more quite easily. So I don't understand your question here.
@ItsAlive111
@ItsAlive111 Год назад
@@Natethegreat200cia messed up with the turbo 4 cyl engines with the dual clutch transmission. This drive train is not that.
@JremV
@JremV Год назад
@@Natethegreat200cI have a 2016 pilot and the engine failed at 126k miles so Hondas reliability isn’t much better. Im a Honda person I have the pilot a 2012 odyssey with 266k miles and a 2021 accord 2.0t and I’d choose the telluride. Long term the resale value on the Honda will be slightly better but not by much. Certain Kia’s like the telluride and carnival really have strong resale value I’ve seen.
@bb2status
@bb2status Год назад
Honda > kia
@SheepNizzle
@SheepNizzle Год назад
I think you're maybe misunderstanding the 3rd row buttons and their uses. First you said the Honda didn't have one up top, which it does, then when you showed it a few minutes later, you called it "hidden". On both vehicles, the button on the bottom is for getting into the 3rd row, and the button up top is for letting yourself out of the third row. You're not meant to use it while getting in, therefore it doesn't need to be seen unless you're getting out of the 3rd row. This design has been around since Honda introduced it on the 2016 Pilot, and then Hyundai/Kia just stole the idea.
@qaherwardak9908
@qaherwardak9908 Год назад
Make sure park your Kia outside and buy extra fire extinguishers.
@GNX-wg9if
@GNX-wg9if 5 месяцев назад
I'll take the Kia...
@luiscruz-if1sg
@luiscruz-if1sg Год назад
I wish the pilot had the display like the Accord that would have been great. I will go for the Honda Pilot over the Kia.
@cablebrain9691
@cablebrain9691 6 месяцев назад
I have to say something, I’m sorry, I hate to act as the grammar police, but I’m going to now. The term is “more boxy,” or just “boxier,” not “more boxier.” I’ve notice this on other Redline Review videos. Using the word “more” AND “boxIER” is redundant. OK……you can all kick me now.
@RoseTheOne64
@RoseTheOne64 Год назад
If I didn't step out of my 2019 Honda Passport EXL to test drive a 2023 Kia Telluride SX prestige, I'd definitely be sold. Except Kia really has no idea what their doing with SUVS when it gives to driving mechanisms. The Sorento looks good but drives so badly. And then the Kia Telluride looks perfect but drives like a 16 wheeler. It feels unreasonably heavy especially when you floor it. My mom's 2003 Toyota Sequioa drives better. Kia has a long way to go before I can feel comfortable driving one everyday.
@dfhhtyu3434
@dfhhtyu3434 Год назад
True their driving dynamic is mid even the genesis is same
@davewilson7602
@davewilson7602 Год назад
Yeah the Kia looks great on the internet with the interior looks and the toys, but if you drive them you can see which had more thought put into the engineering. The Pilot drives almost like a German car, it’s very coordinated. Telluride doesn’t feel as sound.
@snowblind.
@snowblind. Год назад
My sorento drives great. More power than Telluride, pilot, cx90... cheaper for top of the line, and looks better. My only complaints are no memory seats, no wireless carplay, and with the digital dash, a boost meter would be fun to show in sport mode.
@1Minioner
@1Minioner Год назад
I've always given Kia/Hyundai/Genesis a fair shot when picking a new car. The thing that's always stood out to me, across every car they make, is the throttle response is absolutely awful. It doesn't feel connected to the engine at all; you get different engine responses given the exact same throttle input. Suspension is also extremely floaty, which gives laymen the impression that it's good, but all that floatiness comes with a major lack of control. Steering feel is also similar to the throttle, doesn't feel connected, seems to change every time I take a corner. This is something Honda excels at; the driver inputs are some of the best in the industry in terms of feel and responsiveness. If driving feel is anywhere on your list of importance, the Pilot is a no brainer here.
@shady80s22
@shady80s22 Год назад
​@@snowblind.Idk if it looks better. Tbh I think the Pilot's new design beats all in the segment in looks.
@scottnoble5022
@scottnoble5022 Год назад
Both nice vehicles, long term I think the Honda is a better choice, the Kia still has that flavor of the day feeling right now.
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Год назад
Nah this is not 1980 any more...
@shady80s22
@shady80s22 Год назад
​@andresmattos7541 it kinda is. Honda is the resale king.
@joeldawson83
@joeldawson83 Год назад
Honda = Vanilla
@Ricky-mo6mv
@Ricky-mo6mv 9 месяцев назад
Seriously, what is that interior all about in the Pilot? It’s hard to believe Honda thinks that’s acceptable for anything being sold in 2023 should look like that. Let alone a higher end vehicle from their lineup. I know they have cut production costs, but that is ridiculous.
@kennyl1746
@kennyl1746 Год назад
They should fire those morons at Honda for the interior design. I'd waited two years for the new model and that's the best they can do...9 inch display even on the 2024 model year. What was Honda thinking? They see what Kia, Hyundai, Toyota have to offer and still they came out with such a depressing interior space. Does not look premium at all.
@fentsch
@fentsch 11 месяцев назад
Would NOT buy any of the Korean vehicles I don’t trust any company that has to put a 100k mile warranty on a vehicle and I know 5 people that own one and the warranty covers NOTHING.
@sjohnson7879
@sjohnson7879 7 месяцев назад
There's no comparison. The Honda Pilot all day and every day. It's the better-looking car in my opinion. The design is more masculine and cohesive. The KIA Tellurude design never seemed original to me.
@cuba1229
@cuba1229 Год назад
I personally like the Palisade
@RodolfoMendez-kd6mb
@RodolfoMendez-kd6mb 4 месяца назад
I would go with the Honda Elite vs KIA only because transmission. I don't like the silver button set up on the KIA. looks like the old entertainment center buttons and vcr. But both are better than the 4 cylinder turbo that grand highlander
@monkeyrun
@monkeyrun 11 месяцев назад
if you want to keep one of these 2 for 10 years, Honda is the only realistic choice here.
@jasontse3329
@jasontse3329 Год назад
Thanks for the comparison. Does the Honda fix their wireless charger in the pilot? I do have the 2023 passport touring and the wireless does not charge the phone 12 and higher. The charger will goes on and off and back on all the time. It will go like that. Apparently this is a bug that the do have for a while and did not fix. (Dealership confirmation)I am curious to see if the new pilot, they fix this. It can be annoying for that price tag and you have one accessory not working as it should.
@SheepNizzle
@SheepNizzle Год назад
I was just given a 2023 Pilot EX-L as a loaner while my 2016 got a timing belt change, and the wireless charger worked great for my iPhone 14 Pro with an apple leather case on it. No disconnects at all that I saw. I hope this helps.
@kesha1402
@kesha1402 Год назад
@@SheepNizzlewhat was price range to get timing belt change please, thank you
@SheepNizzle
@SheepNizzle Год назад
@@kesha1402 It was about $1400 to have both the timing belt and water pump replaced together.
@georgesnyder5337
@georgesnyder5337 Год назад
Crazy that you didn't spend much time on the differences between the AWD systems - is it that you don't know the difference? Honda's is quite a bit different than what KIA has implemented.
@shady80s22
@shady80s22 Год назад
The Honda AWD is superior l
@jsfbay1
@jsfbay1 Год назад
I can't believe that Honda wasn't benchmarking the Telluride when designing the 2023 Pilot, and yet we get the most spartan looking interior I've seen in awhile.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Год назад
I think Honda benchmarked Audi in their design and quality. Kia definitely benchmarked land rover and Mercedes and bmw
@dave7315
@dave7315 Год назад
Palisade XRT would have been a fairer comparison…
@georgesnyder5337
@georgesnyder5337 Год назад
Not really at all. In fact, neither are great comparisons. The Pilot has way more off-road capability but leaves a lot of the luxury features out and reserves them for Touring and Elite trims.
@paulm6481
@paulm6481 Год назад
Kia looks better inside and out. Honda is higher quality and proven over many years and vehicles. Lease the Kia and buy the HONDA.
@sabbymatters4780
@sabbymatters4780 5 месяцев назад
Who ever thought we'd see the day that Honda would be specking a KIA to chase sales?? The KIA is the winner here.
@Tartan1206
@Tartan1206 Год назад
Pilot interior is a bummer. Vinyl seats and poor styling
@brokeboy87
@brokeboy87 Год назад
It's easier to clean and should be more durable.
@Tartan1206
@Tartan1206 Год назад
@@brokeboy87 I have had both. The vinyl doesn't hold up as it ages. My bmw x3 with "pleather" cracked and split. Every leather car that I have had has held up way better over time.
@davewilson7602
@davewilson7602 Год назад
@@Tartan1206not to disagree but I’ve had leather cars that held up way worse than the synthetic in my VW. Maybe not all synthetic is created equal?
@brokeboy87
@brokeboy87 Год назад
@@Tartan1206 when you had both materials did you take the extra time to maintain and condition the surfaces to help it last longer?
@Tartan1206
@Tartan1206 Год назад
@brokeboy87 I have had multiple cars with both materials and conditioned and taken care of both. Leather is the best choice hands down. The vinyl doesn't last as it ages and doesn't hold up.
@karsaorlong4391
@karsaorlong4391 Год назад
Blah blah entertainment screen "tech" options. I want something that is dependable not some Kia trash. Yes, Kia dependability is poor, same can be said of the dealership experience.
@locosmiley2008
@locosmiley2008 Год назад
Why cant honda and toyota build an interior like koreans do? They would get a better market share if they did that. The pilot int is just too basic.
@davel1000
@davel1000 Год назад
Pilot all the way. Wireless Airplay and Android auto is much more important than 3 inches of screen, To me, the wireless aspect gives Honda the advantage in the infotainment. Better looking interface as well in the Pilot. The interior in the Kia to me looks outdated and old. Pilot is clear winner in my opinion.
@Mk4love
@Mk4love Год назад
The pilot headlights resemble the Ford explorer headlights especially with the led turn signal up top
@sistrategies0253
@sistrategies0253 Год назад
Pilot needs another year or two to fine tune its transmission
@sistrategies0253
@sistrategies0253 Год назад
By then, Telluride will get a revision / update….
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