2023 Lexus GX460 Black Line Review and Mountain Adventure 

Good to know. 😉

Same Same

As a fellow GX460 owner, I concur!

This is the way.

The 4Runner

Nowhere > know where

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! My wife and I are looking at buying one

Nice information I think you're from Australia because it is not common for americans to know this stuff. Anyway you've said the GX is above average off-road hmmmmmm let's talk about Toyota SUV's in usa after the land cruiser/LX the GX become the second best Toyota's off road vehicle due to the information that you've mentioned + it has V8 and kdss system In terms of towing I don't know what it can tow but it becomes third in towing after the land cruiser/LX and sequoia

I'm Kiss Kiss, and I approve your message. lol

Yet I see 25 plus year old Jeeps and Land Rovers on the road every single day.

@@trailrunnah8886 those are restored classics Answer me honestly, would you take a 25 year old jeep through the empty quarter desert or a 25 year old Land Cruiser/ Land Cruiser Prado?

@@trailrunnah8886 These are enthusiasts for the brand which will stop at nothing to keep them running strong. Even if that means throwing a little money at them.. To be fair, I have heard that the JL or 2019+ Jeeps are a little more reliable than the older ones..

@@johneldepresso think there might be some generalization here. No doubt the Prado has a great reputation and likely there are more still performing their duties than most other models or brands, but it’s not like others are incapable of lasting a similar length of time. The use and maintenance is just as important as what the vehicle is.

People are paying 60k for highlanders

The ugliest trucks as well

I want one and keep it for life.

People pay 50k for highlanders in Cali rn

$50k for 4Runners? Limited 4Runner's MSRP is around $54k.

Same. Head says RX350h heart says GX. Don’t know yet. GX is bulletproof

what'd you get what'd you get

Same. Ended up with GX, couldn’t stand that revised interior on the new RX 😅

Same thing with me! I spoke with my Lexus dealer and she said that the 2024 GX was going to have a V6 Turbo engine in it and that the wait for it was going to be at least 6 or more months, even longer off I wanted custom colors and a special interior. I wanted a no non-senseold school V8 to drive until the day that I die. This vehicle rides like a 1960s Cadillac Limo- strong, quiet and solid. If somebody wants speed, then do not purchase an SUV!

@@edmundcharles5278 v8 is a beautiful piece of engineering. fantastic choice,

You can install a switch to disengage the KDSS at higher speeds. Best of both worlds!

Funny about all this Land Rover came out with the same traction control system and the ace system to make the sway bar gets stiffer when entering corners and in low range super loose for crazy articulation totally Factory. You can watch the old Discovery 2 videos on the streets course doing a slalom with high-speed camera pointed directly at them also testing the Mercedes and the BMW and the Land Rover had the least lean because the ace system would stiffen it up before it started to lean what off-road crazy articulation from solid axles with Ace system letting the wheels go way up in the fenders and not to mention the traction control system that is ABS just like the a track on the Toyotas that still doesn't even work as good as an old Land Rover. If only Land Rover had made things as reliable as Toyota. I always get a kick out of watching so-called newer technology on stuff that was literally 23 years ago and still working on Rovers like mine once you work out some of the Kinks like a better cooling system and more accessible ignition coils but that's easy. The new Land Rovers are ridiculous they're very good off-road but I wouldn't trust one at all. I think the Grenadier is going to be awesome. They're really testing them here in America. In all reality the Jeep Rubicon Wrangler is the most capable front and rear lockers front and rear solid axles front and rear sway bar disconnects. But sometimes people want something that doesn't look like a Jeep LOL I feel the same way. Recently watched on tfl they tested this Lexus and a Range Rover Sport and the Range Rover traction control system worked way better on the spin test from every wheel put up on rollers. It's like the Toyota traction control system just doesn't grab hard enough right away the way even the old Landover kind of and it makes no sense cuz it's not technical as soon as it detects uneven will spend just grab the brake hard but Toyota doesn't they go gentle slowly ease into it and that sucks because it's bad enough you have any delay compared to a locker when getting stuck or not could mean the difference of that one or two seconds of momentum loss but at least make your traction control system more aggressive like Land Rover and it's not hard to do just grab the spinning wheel brake harder the first time

interesting rumor 🤔 😏

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Stay tuned!

nice choice- the duelers are pretty shit even in rain, let alone snow

How much did that hurt your MPG?

@moloono1 Pardon me for the late reply. My MPG has been exactly the same, to be honest. Although maybe 1 mpg less.

@@vadim9342 Wow! That’s great. I’m really thinking of upgrading. Thanks for your time and responses.

For the American market yes and by far better than the 4runner. Plus you forgot about the GX it has centre-diff

me too!! ❤️

Huh

Yup, Lexus should've kept these equipped with Michelin LTs, like the previous years... The duelers totally suck on anything but dry and light rain! The Michelin LTX are perfect for the GX, if one doesn't want something like the KO2s

@@M5_Sonu oh is that why my 2020 GX is the only one that came with Michelins still? And then every other GX I saw had duelers I thought someone messed with my car lol

@@M5_Sonu Agreed, I love the Michelins on my GX470

The GX has KDSS too I have it in my 2020

Your 4Runner doesnt have a V8 though :(

it appeared to be mud-snow, so there was slippage of the tires.

So basically the 2009 to 2012 model years lol

Reliability wise the GX, LX and Land Cruiser are going to be pretty much the same. Just depends on the interior space. The LX570 and Land Cruiser have a little bit more interior room. The Lx600 doesn’t. It’s smaller on the inside than the GX due to the second town being fixed and not being able to slide it back. I faced the same decision. A new GX or a LX with 20k for the same price. Ended up buying a new 22 GX because of the better gas mileage(about 2-4 mpg more than the other 2). You still get a V8, full time 4wd as well as the reliability. The GX is an amazing value.

indeed!!

It is only possible on the GX up to 2019. No one has figured out how to add to the 2020+ model years yet.

it’s a proper SUV, unlike crossovers which are essentially SUV shaped minivans

Men gets sports cars but legends own big giants like these and take em places and go on amazing adventures!

​@@justfelix30 Large SUVs kind of suck, doesn't help that current automobiles continue to grow in size. Big is fine if that's what you're after, however you can't deny smaller means more maneuverable and less lumbering.

You nailed it.

For 2023 the blackline comes with the off road cameras

You can add mts and cc pretty easily I believe. Modules available

It's just a hydraulic sway bar nothing serious.

my '98 4runner has a hydraulic clutch. no clutch cables to replace. never had to do a thing to it other than replacing fluid. hydraulic systems are fantastic

I have an '05 LX470 and have never had a problem with the AHC system. My '06 GX has air suspension not hydraulic

What I have noticed is the lack of fan speed in the seat. If I can only increase that speed just a bit all will be good to go.

And until just last year, the dash and steering wheel was the exact same as your 2012 too. Nothing changed! It was a good formula to begin with. I personally prefer the front end look of the older ones. The grille on the newer ones just doesn’t match the rest of the look imo.

I bought a lotto max ticket today 😅 please please!!!!

KDSS is not shocks, it's a sway bar disconnect using a hydraulic end link

Yep- that's what I did. The new 2024 GX 550 will eventually be a great vehicle, it will have small things to get worked out, just like vevery other new line introduction vehicle. I did not want to wait several years for these quirks to get ironed out, so I bought the last year 2023 V8 and I am so happy with it. Also, the wait for the new GX 550 is insane, at least six months and the pre-order listing is over a year of deposits.

The new grand Cherokee sweet too

If I was in the market my top two choices would be the 4Runner TRD Off Road or GX. I don't think the price premium for the TRD Pro is justified. Speaking of premium, the Premium fuel requirement on the GX is a substantial ongoing expense. I will never understand how the Tundra and Sequoia offered a 310 hp 4.6 V8 that ran on Regular but the 301 hp 4.6 in the GX requires Premium.

Is that an issue? I always thought Torsen style diffs were pretty simple and had great longevity.

@@ALMX5DP well it can be a potential issue if you always go offroad and never use the center diff lock.

@@theUltimateLord ​ sure I’ve just never heard of issues in that respect. I know in the track and motorsports worlds, Torsens have a great reputation for lasting. Not much to go wrong with the simple worm gear design.

@ALMX5DP torsen type C uses friction plates... lock it when going offroad for best longevity

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD from what I saw it’s still a gear set with some thrust washers. Does it have a tendency to wear out or get stressed more easily than other types?

Our 2022 came with Michelin Defenders thankfully. Haven't driven it in the snow yet, but I think they'll be decent. Really interested in the new BFG Trail Terrains. 3 peak rated and not as aggressive as the KO2s.

@@satalac good choice- the Toyo AT3 are 3 peak as well and decent in snow so far. My buddy has KO2s and they are a bit noisy for my taste

Sold it! Looking forward to testing the new 2023 with the turbo engine soon!

Better late than never.

And I thought it was pretty cheap.

That touch pad is a nightmare. God forbid you spill something on it!!!

only the front driver/passenger have dual pane glass, 2nd row to rear doesnt. Main Visor doesnt slide, but has a smaller one built in that slides out.

@@youlunwang8650 Thank you, this is very helpful. I wish reviewer could mention these details. Every detail counts.