2023 Nissan Z | Until The Bitter End 

I hope this trend continues.

Problem is, it is ultimately from a brand that never recovered from the GFC, and is owned by Renault group - which means no matter how good the car is, you have to deal with some of the worst after sales support in the world if you buy one.

I also am glad this came around because I feel like it was partially the reason for the Supra getting a manuel. They don't want to lose all those customers to the z family lols

Nissan sure is flawed now, but they’ve made more affordable drivers cars in their history than just about anyone, even if you think Honda’s or Toyota’s are better.

Nissan hater? Lol I didn't think anyone could have such strong feelings about Nissan let alone hate

Honestly can't wait. After the work you guys did on the Miata series I know this will be incredible.

Engineering changes. Lol.

I know that you will deliver a better product than the media giants. They don't care about quality. They don't care about every detail that goes into the development, engineering, and manufacturing of these works of art. They only care about being first. You focus on the details within the art, that the car manufacturers have made.

I am so excited to watch. When y’all do big videos and indef looks I always leave with a greater appreciation for the art of automotive design

We love what you guys do, never stop.

Way underrated and they should be at 5 mil subs.

Could the new 2023 Nissan Z very well be the greatest car ever created in all of automotive history?

@savagegeese has been exceptional as we've watched their growth. True to the mission, always, and consistent in delivery. Love this channel.

I was blown by what I've watched in the past 40 minutes. Still having a hard time believing that I was on RU-vid. I would want to add the two presenters themselves into your list too. I feel like they've grown very accustomed to one another over the years and there's something about the dynamics between the duo that made the presentation entertaining in its own unique way.

Well said.

This video is not well rounded. Its a promo ad for Nissan. Its an insult to call this anything but a sponsored promo ad. This is so against what Savagegeese was as a reviewer. I cannot take what they say serious anymore as they can be bought by the manufactures.

For realz. 10 years ago, they needed one of the biggest broadcasting companies to produce content like this. This channel is just missing that third troll to make the trifecta of the Three Stooges. Subscribe to this channel if you haven't because 572K is a fucking joke for content and production value this good.

@@jimest4602 You must own a Toyota.

@@jimest4602 sounds like your merger didn’t go through. Chin up 👍

And they don’t do it once… they do it constantly! 👏🏽

Thank you for appreciating the work and enjoying it. Makes doing videos like this easier to stomach. Hope to continue the trend.

Man i wish I wasn't poor so I could donate to Savageeese

i too received the tears. the opening hit.

@@savagegeese "... easier to stomach." This is work you can be proud of; your consistent message regarding the loss of this sort of vehicle is making me think and I expect I'm not the only one.

Thanks for the kind words. We really bust our ass on this one

@@jackholmes8105 You guys so thoroughly deserve the praise. Your hard work is showing and it is very impressive what you pulled off with this video. Congrats and thank you so very much for this piece of 🖼 God bless from Norway.

@@jackholmes8105 Jack, I remember when you first started on Savagegeese's channel. The growth since then is as mind-boggling as the fact that that the turbos can spin as much as 3,750 revolutions per second!

Not just the video but also the soundtrack

Relax man it is admirable to be honest. I think you’re being a little “extra" right now. Chill

Plus there’s no dealer markup for the video

I thought it was naff. Tone it down guys

If I was a Major Network Executive I would had offered him a contract for a TV show.

The definition of “sports car” doesn’t change however. People only pervert the concept, and twist it around ideas that don’t fit that definition, just so they can say “sports car”. Today’s Z is really just a sports coupe - one of many on the market, which dilutes the car greatly. It’s odd how many people think this car is somehow groundbreaking.

@Mr. Butterworth I appreciate the correction. The definition has not changed, but what people are willing to live with has. I am happy to see another Japanese, rear wheel drive coupe (with a stick) on the market, even if it is diluted. I think the hype around this car is partly due to the Japanese coupe renaissance we're experiencing, and partly because it came from Nissan. It's one of their more exciting products in recent memory.

I am getting sick of car is "fast" culture of showing straightline races and ignoring everything else.

@@savagegeese yes Man yes👍

@@savagegeese 'speed' isn't everything. The car has to talk to you, the driver.

@@savagegeese amen

I'm retired 69 enjoying my 2006 sti w/spt add ons. Before that had the 98 Honda prelude.

👍

Did you eventually get your z?

@@mikewaite3746 Assuming he is in Canada (there were no pre orders in US), no. Only 2 people have gotten their Z in Canada yet. I'm also waiting for my pre order. Good chance it arrives in the next month or two

I agree I've seen Alfonso in other interviews and he has always seemed like a normal guy.

I want to see Bmw designers put on the spot like this. I doubt we would hear much of art or emotion

Just because someone uses design terms doesn't mean they are arrogant

Its beautiful but for sure going to get marked up by dealers 😒

@@JGL98 like every other vehicle right now. It's ridiculous 🙄

Definitely not a classic, it’s incredibly boring in its lines and oddly convoluted in its details. It’s basically yet another dull sports coupe, despite its numbers. Too much content, oversized on the outside, cramped on the inside. Odd how the designers feel they’ve created something beautiful.

@@mr.butterworth4216 They never said it was perfect rather almost perfect. These type of cars are being replaced by boring and very ugly electric vehicles. If your not a fan of the Z and it's history i can understand your point other than that? Nothing to complain about.

@@theeppychronicles you need to watch more videos on this car. A concerning point is the movement of the manual Z stick shift during acceleration. That was a major problem of my 370z Nismo. I had to redo all the rear diff and subframe bushings a long with a brace and the noise from the rear was loud.

Same, I wanna see the footage of Jack unlocking the padlock outside Mark's editing chamber, sliding in an Arby's and getting the hell out of there

Please make this a thing.

@@MJSEN feeding mark is like the beginning of Jurassic Park. "Shoooootttt HErrrrrrrr"

"Welcome to Jurassic Mark" as the orchestra music plays softly on a mid range car audio system that is slightly bass heavy according to the sound engineer.

It's going to really be interesting to see if the sales work out. Since Nissan said 40K MSRP base, which is still the 400hp motor, while Supra base is 43K, but with the 4 cylinder and still no stick.

@@sigmaprojects I think it will totally wreck Supra sales. However, Toyota got away fairly cheaply on that project, so it may not matter much. I'm not entirely sold on the Z's retro styling, but think the Supra is just plain ugly and overstyled. At least the Z looks consistently retro.

@@markmiller3279 I think both look pretty good, especially in person. My only gripe about the Supra's styling is that it looks way too close to an Alfa Romeo with its proportions, like if it had the Alfa triangle nose at that pointed area everyone would instantly think it's a new Alfa 8C. I just have a hard time seeing the Japanese DNA. The FT-1 at least had the proportions of a Supra so it was that bit recognizable. Time will tell if Nissan crushes Supra sales.

Bruh that ain't stupid

As someone who has no strong feelings towards the Z one way or the other, I definitely felt some emotion when they first take the new Z on the track and then pan to the previous Gen Z behind it. Kind of a passing of the torch.

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Top 3, and they’re not 3 and they’re not 2

You’re in my top 3 too zaddy zygrene

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We busted our asses on this one.

Which is silly considering Toyota should have just asked BMW for their manual from the M2.

@@2moke2creen honestly i think its pretty likely BMW didnt wanna give toyota a manual out of fear of losing sales from cars like the m2

@@2moke2creen bmw doesn't even sell a single B58 car with manual in the US anymore. I think they ended up modifying the Z4 4 cyl manual trans from Europe

@@Wolfy400 I hadn't considered that. If I was in the market I would have gone straight to the M2 for that reason.

@@Wolfy400 Makes sense and is even more aggrevating why Toyota let BMW screw them.

I didn’t really care about this car before but now I want to own one!

Thanks for the kind words and donation. The new z all things considered is a very good car. If you love your 350 this imo improves on what the z is.

keeep that 6-6 my boy!

@@lujr2225 Believe me I will *never* sell it!

Couldn't agree more 👏🏽

@Null I'm fine with them. You?

The best Japanese sport car: GTR

@@jmmch3358 NO

Rip STI

And the integra, which is controversial. But if it drives anything like the new Si it’s gonna be a good car if you ignore the integra name.

CTR for the win.

But if those other cars offer that and better performance why would I go for less?

@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Well, Miele vacuums offer everything a Dyson does with better performance, why doesn't everyone just by Miele vacuums? Just because something is technically better doesn't make it more desirable. Low to mid-range EVs like the model 3 or the base Mustang offer great straight line speed and good range, but sacrifice handling dynamics and performance. If you want to have brakes big enough that they don't overheat and fade after a couple hard stops or suspension that doesn't body roll over 5 degrees in a sharp corner, than you're gonna have to shell out for the performance variants, which are quite expensive. Not to mention, I could take this Z, or any similar sports car, to a track day and run it off and on all day long. If I took a Tesla I'd get about an hour of performance driving before it was both too hot and too discharged. If I took an Accord the brakes would be toast and I would probably be nauseous from the angular momentum of the body roll. Anything can become a performance vehicle, but what makes a car sporty and enjoyable isn't just power and speed. My most enjoyable car to drive over the last 25 years was a 91 240sx that had an LSD-swapped rear diff. Even after tuning it only made like 175Whp, but I could track that thing all day and never be dissatisfied. The Model 3 I tracked at an event in Atlanta on the other hand was fun for the first 10 minutes and then quickly became exhausting and disappointing when the battery started getting hot so it pulled power and the brakes became soggy sponges. It's all just perception, but for me, enjoyment in driving comes from the entire experience, not just the butterflies from acceleration.

People are obsessed with straight line speed and not as much taking corners as fast as possible. This mentality might change as F1 gains viewership in the states.

@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 I enjoy a quick car but certain power levels is just overkill.

That's why I still have my AP2 S2K. Not the fastest but the best driving experience when your in a back road going through the gear with the top down. In my opinion on the last pure driver's car Honda made.

Amen bro!💯

Doesn't have to be......Isn't this a democracy? The people like cars like this. Why would it stop? Sorry man made climate change is not real. LGB

Could not agree more!

I hope the EV fad passes.

@@C.I... It hasn't even begun lol

100%. The days of all new products like the 300z are long, long gone. This is an amazing effort in 2022. ESPECIALLY for a company on such shaky ground, it's honestly amazing we got a new Z at all.

Yeah