2024 2.8 AUTO 79 series landcruiser. We tow 3 TONNE...Fit a REVERSE CAMERA & Cant get an alarm in!! 

I appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to comment...

Thanks for the comments...Appreciated

Thanks Craig..

Thanks so much for your positive comments, yes this upcoming trip with 3 motorbikes fuel & generator in the tray and the Jayco chock a block offroad will be another awesome test...

Glad you enjoyed it Richard and thanks for the constant support mate..

How many more sleeps, this weather better improve HUH??

Thanks for taking the time to comment... Yes ok, I didnt compare the price with V8 as I really just wanted to test the auto... But with a lot of 4cylinder haters I think there will still be a bit of a demand for the 8..

My guy imports them from Taiwan, a no name camera, no kit as such just wire it up to harness and extra override switch...

Thanks, I like the idea of the overide @@TeamBulletOffroad

You will be surprised, as I was Rolly B

Nice, yes I think the 76s will go pretty cool in the auto option as well...

Cheers mate

I've got the new v8, love it!

100% the 4 will be on boost way more, higher revving etc, but as far as the V8 goes, why would the facelift model be any different to say 22 model, nothings changed in them, so in stock form be no different to my white one..

Probably only 100kg, the ramps tools axles etc, no I didnt use any other option except D, but next tow I will...

Higher the number it’s lower ratio diff

So what's your point? How is "only because" relevant? Bottom line: it tows better.

If the tyre size, weight, engine, transmission are there roughly the same then the biggest difference is going to be the change in diff ratio. Do you disagree? Have you ever swapped gears?

I’ve swapped diffs and gearboxes and sprockets (bikes) numerous times in numerous vehicles in my 57yrs. Ignoring the fact that the “other 4 cyls” you listed don’t all have the same gearing and it’s not just the final drive, I still don’t understand your point in trying to isolate the why as if it diminishes the result. What does it matter?

@@DiscoFang It matters because it gives a torque manipulation as a percentage gain or loss. All the pro reviews or dealers aren't including this info. In the US they always say what gears the model comes with. Yes the other 4 cylinders don't all have the same but if narrowing it down to 6 speed autos 3.7 is common and 4.3 or whatever this cruiser has isn't common with an auto. I have bikes too. I run a 51t cassette on the rear. It's almost as big as a human head.

My camera guru set me up a plug and play...

A heavy wagon maybe, but I did tow with the Fortuner a couple of years back a lot and theres no way that felt as safe as the LC70.. It was no where near heavy enough to tow that weight...

Well ive not driven a late model hilux, Chelles fortuner is an 18 model which I really love driving, but from the sounds of what people are saying the LC70 has same motor and box as Luxs Prados and Tunas but maybe the gearing is giving mixed results

Correct pressure they are fine

They look bad, dont they, have been running the same bag for 8 years and touch wood, they have all been ok..

Cheers Kromey111

The airbag stigma comes from people using them as a bandaid solution for sagged suspension, so pressures are too high. Springs are like tyres, when they wear out they need to be replaced.

No it was wired in..

Wow, yes you might be onto something re gearing... Is that you towing?

No not at all. Just car by itself loaded with tools up to 2.8t. I’ll also add the the manual version has some pretty noticeable turbo lag so a manual 2.8 70 series would be a pretty horrible tow car.

Yes I know re the manuals and the lag you speak of, I know a few with them, but yeh, the 70 doesn't come with a manual option, thankfully@@michaelburns5680

But still not as good as the 2.8. Extra 70nm

@@kromey111 yeah, my v8 has 1100nm so I’m not sure I had bet had a stock one in a while.

​@@wizzylizzy69probably burn up the trans with that power

@@wizzylizzy69 4.3 diff also helps

@@AdmissionGaming with stock v8 power?

35.6 ÷ 2.118 = L/100 😉

@@smaldo19 yeah I just should have said litres by km

Cheers guys, ive always liked knowing how many kms im doing per 1 litre... In the old days when speedos sometimes didnt work and we were filling from jerry cans we used to know how far a 20lite jerry took us. How we rolled in the 80s Hahaha

Yes Maybe, There still are short cuts in some places no dought but where it counts they have hit it on the head...

A Taiwanese no name import mate, not sure, just need to pull it out to see why it resets from time to time when I turn on the ignition..

No my current V8 is stock still dpf model, my 2016 was making that power pre DPF, now that was awesome, basically held 5th gear everywhere but in that set up I drove to the pyro, backing off around the 680degrees, but even that ute didnt have the off the mark fluency as the auto does, but definitely did not embarrass that ute.. But the auto would get up to 60 quicker to even the grey one

⁠@@TeamBulletOffroadYou towed in 5th with your old V8 with 700nm?

Farout I can't recall exactly maybe 3200-3500 but ill have to keep note next time we tow...

Righto mate no worries, jeez I have a 150 prado 3.0lt that when i use to tow a jayco Flamingo I’d take it out to 2500 each gear nursing it, not worrying about keeping up with anyone and that would be 2 tonne loaded I reckon , what would you rev your V8 out to each gear towing 3tonne ? , love the economy of the prado now with just a bush company RTT

I will show that in Sundays video as I did try it, was no slippage but I didnt like it towing in 4th as people say, just revved too hard..So left it in drive

@@TeamBulletOffroad It is safer in general for this gearbox (AC60F) to tow in 4th as it is not an overdrive speed (1:1 ratio) . And you will have the torque converter locked with no slip and the transmission oil temperature will stay in a reasonable range (up to 120 Celsius ) . Also for the engine will be better in 4th due to lower EGT ( exhaust gas temperature) values. It will have an impact on the reliability in general and It really depends how long you wanna keep the car.

Yes correct it does, as does the Fortuner...

Wasn't taking the piss mate just saying what you said in your vid its not a v8 so do you think it's worth buying one since you can't get the v8 now

You can still get the V8 mate, just not auto..@@jeffgreaves1559

Yes correct, im going to be looking at a bigger aftermarket cooler.. Theres a heap of room in front of radiator now..

need a scangauge to monitor temps

Good advice. Trans fluid is cheap and easy.

Whatever toyota use, the box came unlabelled etc, from the toyota contractor

Get them on the brochure from Toyota's websites

You in Sydney?

Took you a while to realise that

Agree. The 300 is nice but not for 150k for a Sahara. The new Lexus GX is coming which is a fancy Prado (2024) and has ambient lighting, massaging seats etc, and will be much cheaper and has a 3.5 twin turbo petrol V6. Toyota always refuses to give people more power. They won't throw the 3.3 diesel in anything else. I had a 4.2TD 80, loved it to bits, and a 105 petrol, always been a Toyota man but they're making it hard. The 4 bangers are good for suburban work, only highway work and hills they run out of legs quickly.

​@@nathansharma87 Well contrary to your belief, he's just demonstrated the 4 banger isn't running out of puff, he's actually saying the opposite, it pulling harder than the V8. I know from using my V8 as a tow vehicle, miss the initial down change from 5th to 4th on an incline and it was back to 3rd to keep it going. I liked the V8, hated the truck with a passion, they are so over rated. The V8 has a cult following too, but I'm not sure why, I liked it, but it wasn't great. The 4 banger is about to shame it as this clip shows.

Simon, wow thats a lot of Tojos you have had, I thought id had a few, but I hear you, dont lose faith yet mate, lets see how these 2.8s go.. Ive got a feeling they got this right.. I agree the 80s were the best wagon, 1st on coils the factory turbo made good power, and I always thought the last 6 cyl factory turbo 70 ute was awesome with that coiled front end..My favourite one I owned and there were dozens, was an 83 60series with the 4 speed and fairy overdrive which I later chopped into a dual cab twin locked and 35s.. Im also a solid axle front hilux lover, and I still remember how gutted I was when they stopped the live axle, I still got 1 but it was so I could put the 3.0 into Bullet truck... Hahaha

Nathan, you need to go drive the 2.8 auto mate. Im an old dinosaur too and I hate change, a dinosaur in other words.. But this thing has proved my thoughts wrong, believe me... Everyone thats driven mine has got out of it thinking........ HOW..... ?

@@thelonewolf666 I’d say ur prolly right, but I hope we’re wrong. I’ve got a cuppla old cruisers, nothing flash, just work uses, n I love em. I also got a coil cab patrol Ute. I’ll never get rid of the patrol 👍🤷🏾‍♂️

Thanks for commenting Andrew

Time will tell I guess

@@thelonewolf666 Won't last? Pretty random claim. What proof you got? Previous 4cyl Toyota turbo diesels are known to surpass 600K no worries.

4.3 vs 3.9

@@kromey111 So the majority of the differences are going to be the gearing.

Its both 6 and 12 volt the camera

Yes the longevity is something I too wonder...

The 2.8ltr is probably an updated version of the older 2.8. No different to the v6 in the new ranger and Amerok. It's an old ford engine updated to newer specifications for the pansy greenies.

@@scottstirling8047 I swear this engine is going to be the end of the legendary and loved LC 70 series...

No, torque converter

watch the video and you'll find out

It is Leslie, we do the numbers towards end of Video..

Thanks Trickymon..

Do that with a v8 and they struggle aswell

Put a 2.5 tonne van behind a V8 and it struggles, no shit. Oh, the payload needed to be taken up by a Fuel Bowser onboard also for towing. Don't build the V8 up as a giant killer, it certainly isn't.

Yes Richard the list goes on right.. For me the set ups I use ill be ok, never much heavier than this example for now...

Yes the V8s do struggle, they just sound way cooler doing it...

Good point Ian, it takes a fair bit of coin for the usable power they have to be unleashed..

Expense

True

Always late in a 2.8 hahaha, takes me back some 30years having to constantly go up Mt Ousley every day in an unturboed LN106

@TeamBulletOffroad Yep I had one too.. One good thing there was no turbo lag. It just lagged all the time lol 😆 😄 😅 😜

Hahahaha@@jb243wp

Yes I think your correct, cheers for commenting..

Toyota recommends towing in s4 for the 2.8 as 5 and 6 are overdrive. Theres a section in your manual about it. Maybe thats why he didnt use 5 and 6.

@Hardscript no I'm saying it in referring to how he said it tows in top gear. But in actual it's only using 3rd and 4th. My 2022 rogue hardly get into 6th on a empty car let alone when towing. I'm comparing it to my rogue as the motor and box are the same different is hilux use air to air cooler while the 79 use water to air. Both put out the same torque and kw. Water to air cooler is more efficient therefore less heat soak. The 2.8 and auto tows while. I mean mine is tuned plus dpf back exhaust tow my 2t boat reasonable while. But if you want to go 3.5t get something else.

@mclongkock6678 I've heard other hilux owners say the same about the 6th gear and Ive also heard prado owners say its not a problem, its likely there are differences despite them being the same engine and transmission, beyond cooling. My 23 prado has no problem converter locking in 6th while towing my 2t camper trailer.

@Hardscript my sister had a 2018 prado and yeah, that thing gets into 6th easier than my hilux. I havent towed anything with it before. This is all I can confirm. Power wise, I think the prado is underpowered by 20kw 😂. I can get the hilux into 6th while towing only on straight road or downhill and at over 100km. However, I just sit on 90km in 5th reving 1700rpm. If we comparing the hilux to the 79 I would guess the tuning is the same as both are design to work. About toyota manual says to tow in 4th. I haven't heard that or read the manual book. However my dealer says it shouldn't be a problem just tow in auto. As the car sense the load going up hill or when u want to pick up speed the gear automatically go back to 4th or 3rd anyway so there is no need to lock it into 4th. Beside even if you lock it into any gear it still kick down when it feels the need to. It just won't kick up a gear. So really when you say lock it into 4th to tow, it basically means locking out 5th and 6th. In my opinion a vehicle should be able to tow its Max rated weight without hassle. Be able to do the speed limits and not breaking. All the dual cab Utes should only be rated at 2500kg towing. They're a under weight and underpowered to tow 3.5t making them unsafe.

Yes it does, cheers

Wow, way better than the 18... Chelles has bigger tyres but still your numbers are amazing..

Cheers mate, I believe 500nm and it still was heaps better than the grey one taking off and around town, around the same pulling uphill, thats them both in 4th, but I did have to back off with grey one as egts rose... overall unfortunately in my opinion the 2.8 wins by a bit... And thats not having thrown a cent at the donk...

Computer knows what it’s doing

Yes ill try next time in manual mode with tow/haul engaged...

Yes Kromey111, thats where my faith lays on this one too..

Tow haul mode doesn't labour the engine.

@@markh6676 power haul mode actually. Locks up torque converter

Yes your right there..

I will change that habit towing in the future..

Off road you can't wheel them there just too big, in Australia anyway, for towing maybe and space yes, but offroad im going to disagree, {in my opinion}

There are improvements in this model, but yes they have cut corners in areas...

Can tow 3.5 tonne

Wasn't sure what he meant, but thanks again Kromey111