I think you’re right to test bikes with the tyres they come with. An owner can change the tyres, but you can also change suspension and brakes. Most people don’t bin the original unused tyres on Day 1! Plus it encourages manufacturers to fit good tyres and not skimp on them.
I mean, whilst this is technically true, motorcycle tyres are purely perishable whilst Brakes, suspension are not... they need to be maintained but it is rare that one same motorbike will undergo several brake changes or suspension changes. I do think it is interesting to compare the bikes with the OEM tyres, however if you want a fair comparison, you need to fit identical tyres. If you take these bikes to the track, or are serious about sporty riding you will probably change tyres anyway, so it is a bit of a moot point to compare OEM rubber. My first Z650 was equipped with budget dunlop tyres which where universally considered hot garbage. At the pace i was riding they felt absolutely fine. Most new riders will not spot the difference, so why splash out on super premium tyres for beginner riders.
Doubt it would’ve made much difference most bikes come with grippy tyres out the showroom super soft compounds to make you go oh this is great I brought a cbr650r and the tyres were shredded in months but hey they were fun
@@Stratocasterhead51 Naaah, if you buy a new bike, you ride it with the tyres it came on. If you want to review second hand bikes then fit whatever tyres you want. This is a review of new bikes. Plus brake pads are purely perishable too, so I don’t agree with the point you make about that as they can be changed too. If you’re a serious track rider, you wouldn’t be buying these bikes anyway! 😂
@@cp4512 Hey i agree, changing brake pads is routine. Suspension and the rest of the brakes, not so much. And the aprilia / ktm sound just about perfect for anyone looking to get serious about track riding.
@@xxneggalee2785get new fairings icl that’s the first thing I’m gonna do, spend some money on some real carbon get lighter wheels try and get as much out as you can
This how bike comparison videos should be made, only a licensed racer can give such genuine comparison, no bs, no repeated fame digging words like all other channels just honesty. Keep Growing.
The Aprilia is the winner? So beautiful. An absolutely amazing engine. So proud to own an Aprilia. The RS457 is a very very good machine. Easy when you want it and quite quick on full throttle. 4.85s to 100km/h. Amazing value for money! I own a KTM and an Aprilia both but I really think the RS457 is a masterpiece. I’ve driven one and I just couldn’t stop grinning! ❤🎉
@@shahrukhshaikh2737 I can't even fathom the level of genuisness here that's evaluating the VFM proposition of a motorcycle based on the price of OEM accessories.
As an owner of 2nd gen RC390 its just not only a great ( in my opinion the best A2 ) sports bike but just flat out one of the greatest sportbikes ever! The tft with abs and traction control I can toggle, to fine tuning the WP forks, to having the Quickshift+ its just a fun bike to ride and have some fun with on the weekends! Its just so light and nimble but get feels so planted on my local track, KTM seriously needs some praise for this bike, it rocks! Also as an edit: the reason the first gen RC390 had notorious reliability issues and headgasket issues was due to how the exhaust the mounted. KTM mounted it up and around the block and only it gave one cooling fan, this making it prone to overheating and headgasket issues. In 2019 they fixed this by just having the exhaust route under the engine and it's still the same with the 2nd, they're ALOT more reliable than the first.
@@ferbinxyz on mine I put on a FuelxLite auto tuner because I have a DNA airbox lid, K&N air filter and a full system DominatoR. The FuelxLite auto tuner is something I recommend any owner of the 2nd gen RC or any 390 owner should do
Sat on the cbr500 at the dealer yesterday and it felt so much lighter than my cbr600f4. More approachable seat height as well. Only second to the Aprilia in the looks dept. I actually like the idea of a sporty looking bike with a less aggressive rider position myself.
@@Snippydust I sat on all 3 of them at the same dealer. The R7 and GSX8 feel like they are closer to the weight of my 24 year old 600. The R7 had similar ergonomics to my 600. The cbr and GSX8 both feature a less aggressive rider position but the little 500 is noticeably lighter. It felt like my grom but bigger.
im sorry what colour grading nonsense am i witnessing that makes KTM orange look almost yellow??? are you guys okay?? blink twice if your editor is holding you hostage
I LOVE having Joseph on camera talking about A2 bikes. I feel very represented with him. He has great presenter skills also. On the other hand, whilst I fully understand his arguments and I also want a raw and exciting bike, i must also commute to work with it, so something halfway between the KTM and the Honda would be perfect for me, especially being 1,83m tall and not skinny 😂 Seems like the Kawasaki is the closest fit to my needs, but the over soft suspension makes me steer away from it… I can only then think about getting a restricted bike, i’ll find something bigger that will fit me better and probably a better damped bike than these options here whilst still being dailyable…. Decisions, decisions….😅
In Australia the CFMOTO is the cheapest by a long margin in this group and becoming the go to bike for learners wanting a Sportbike. Having ridden one I didn’t experience any problems as mentioned. Perhaps it was just the one you had. The Honda also sells well for larger riders as it does provide a bigger bike feel. The Aprilia? I wouldn’t take the gamble of the potential for you to get to know the warranty rep.
@@marcusgeorge1825 Australia seem to have the pricing right. I’ve no problem with Chinese bikes, but I’m not happy to pay European/Japanese prices for them when they’re not as good. If they were much much cheaper then they might be worth a look.
This is Aprilia's biggest problem right now in the states. I'm considering the Tuono 660 as my next bike, but there are no dealers near where I live, a 2M population metro area. The closest is a 2 hour drive away, in a city that's 1/3 the size. How does that make any sense?
It is the same case in India and many other countries as well. Aprilia needs to listen and improve its service network. If there is a service network issue in the US, there isn't much hope in other countries.
@@Pratham40s They are trustworthy, but just slightly below michelin, but priced way lower. I agree they might be lacking compared to what MCN is used to, mostly they went this route to keep the cost in check.
Indian journalists even manage to do a sub 5 second 0-60 on Aprillia...and said it's faster than kawasaki 500 in straight line as well...all with these tyres... I guess it all comes to what people are more compatible with
if you ask me these kind of bikes are the most fun to ride push on small twisty roads. The plus is that you have tons of fun and still within or a bit above speed limits. And really the only time you ever realize you’re on a small bike is when you were on those big interstate roads. Just take the back roads and they have plenty of power
Relevant. Thank you for reviewing bikes which a working person could buy any two of if they chose, and not one bike that cost more than all 5 together.
10:27 I'm shocked that Kawasaki didn't bring the 40th anniversary paint scheme to the UK for the 500 even though we got it in the states, but wow am I jealous of the slight variation in the one you all got over there. That purple is also deeply drool-worthy.
Vote for Ninja 500 here, it's available in Anniversary colours in the SE ABS version I believe. I had a 2018 Ninja 400 for a couple years before selling it when I moved to the USA.Do it all, confidence inspiring, lightweight, small capacity road bike.Best bike I ever sold. Aprillia if it can be reliable would be a great track toy to learn a lot from.
I learned how to ride like 4-5 months ago and got the 500 as my first bike and I absolutely love it. Like you guys were saying it really does keep the beginner rider safe and I have made my fair share mistakes on it without really being punished. I can’t wait to upgrade to the zx6r in a year or two after I hone in all my skills.
@@Project-Byte I want to do the same as u. I have heard many, many good reviews from this bike. I have never ridden it and can already tell it's one of the best beginners bikes rn
Just a small correction Eurogrip tires are made in India by TVS Srichakra Limited (TSL), which also makes TVS and Eurogrip brand tires, which Aprilia is running on.
This is where i'm at now. Probably going to grab the Honda since its going to be my only vehicle for a couple months. But if the motorcycle was just a toy, i'd grab the KTM for sure. That orange is beautiful
@@charlienicholls2548 I took first available and picked her up yesterday. Opalescent White. Over 200 miles already and loving it! Very happy with my purchase so far.
@@s7edgekat610 This bike has far exceed my expectations! It has a surprising amount of torque and pep everywhere in the rev range. Compared to the Ninja this bike feels quite a bit more premium and sporty. I bought this bike to be my track toy and don't think I will have a single regret. Since buying this I have not ridden my MT-10 a single time, this little guy is just so easy to deal with, light, and fun to ride.
Thank you guys. I have a Z400 with about 5k miles and its about what you said......does everything pretty well, nothing terrible, and is an absolutely inexpensive entry into riding.
I'd like to hear from you when you have put 30-40000km on her. until bad reliability name disappears I'll stick to the Kawasaki and Honda for dual sport
For a 6foot person the honda cbr500r eventually grew to kill my posture. It wasn’t sporty and i couldn’t be totally vertical. It was a very awkward half hunch. Threw my back out twice with it going over some nasty bumps too because the suspension is shite. Got 70mpg on that bugger though!
The price difference here in Australia is staggering. I can see in your video that, apparently, the CFMOTO and Aprilia are the same price... Here in Australia, you can pick up the CFMOTO for $8,500 new, and the Aprilia starts at $12,500. Almost 50% more than the 450SR-S.
500 ninja under $10k also (40th anniversary 500 cost me $10k but I had to pay interstate delivery on top but it was that or miss out) zx4rr $15k zx6r $18k all 40th anniversary bikes
Great video, very useful. I think you should improve on color editing because between your clips the bikes change color (honda and ktm are completely a different color)
Most people I know that had larger a2 restricted bikes had removed the restrictors. Having had a cb500f as my first/A2 bike. I regretted not buying a bigger bike like an xj6 or cb650 as once you upgrade to a full A license you won't want to keep an A2 bike
Meh, I had an XJ6 restriced and my dad has an MT 07 (non restricted) atm. I have a CFMOTO 450 NK and it rides even better than the restricted XJ6. THE NK is 1 second slower than an MT 07 when doing a 0 - 60. I don't really think that getting your A licence after of your A2 means dumping your A2 bike ASAP. A bike is more than the HP and torque alone imho.
Other than cfmoto i have ridden all and gotten rs457 last month and after 2000kms i think its definitely the best specially for the price in my country
Nice one lads. Based on that Dyno chart the ECU has been programmed to cut available power and torque at 9,000 rpm. A little remap will see much more potential, for closed course riding only. 😂 Bring it on!
I wish there were more reviews from an experienced riders POV. I have 31 years of road and racing and am looking at these for a less aggressive track bike I'm my old age. Be good to see a different POV
I love these shootouts, I just wish you guys didn't put such a heavy warm filter on these videos. It changes the look of the bikes too much imo. That Aprilia has beautiful paint, but looks odd with this filter. Just my 2 cents. Great video though!
The problem on the Cf you had with the abs it's because of the tyres. With a good ones won't happened. And for the Rs457 to my understanding it is not even an Aprilia it's a Bajaj. Looks good But who knows the reliability. Good one cheers!
Since these are hashtagged #beginner - I did the research on the insurance prices for a new rider in their first year of riding: - Aprilia RS457: £3487 - Kawasaki Ninja 500: £2000 - KTM RC390: £2000 - CFMoto: £1696 - Honda CBR500R: £1297 Quote details: - Added an end can for £500 (let’s face it, lots of people will do this) - Added Datatag for security - Added membership of British Motorcycle Federation I realize these quotes are highly contextual, so here is my context: I’m 42 and a new rider. I passed four months ago. I'm a homeowner, and a full-time employed professional, working as a marketing director for a software company. I currently ride a new 2024 Bonneville T100, 900cc, value £9500, insured for £500 by the RAC. No convictions, no points on license, everything clean, bike kept in a lock-up on private property in a little village on the coast in North-East England. 25 years of car driving experience. Annual mileage estimated: 8000. Hope this helps!
Pricing is way different in Australia. CF Moto 450 SR-S is $AU 9,290 ride away, Aprilia is $12,500. I have a 450 SR-S and have zero issues. Fantastic bike IMO.
I have not had one Chinese bike make it anywhere near 30000km without breaking down or having major issues. I have yet had issues on Honda and now added ninjas to the garage
@@jamesgeorgevellavella1961 What Chinese bikes have you owned that have not made it 30,000km without fault? We have not had any major faults on any CF Motos at our dealer and have customers with over 90,000km on 800MTs and still going strong so I'm curious as to what you've had trouble with.
Yes, the review we've all wanted! Aprilia and Honda tie for best looks, but Aprilia takes the victory for more fun. Seems like the Ninja still holds the title for best in the class, even if it may have better competition for little track bikes now.
just a slight correction.. The Honda engine is 471cc and the kawasaki is 451cc.. The Honda engine is square and very frugal... It can almost be described as a sportstourer with the low grunty engine and large gasoline tank.. But the honda is heavy... My money would be on the kawasaki... not sure If I trust the chineese bike yet and a bit to early to judge the quality of the Aprilia yet.. But the Aprilia is really the closest to a bigger sportsbike,, It has exactly the 47.6hp liimit om the crank with the 175kg wet weight limit..
Having been an owner of the two gens of Yamaha R3 I am a little bit sad they are not updating that model to keep up with the new breed of A2/low CC sportbikes.
What speeds do these do at the top of 2nd and 3rd? I’m considering downsizing from my 600 which does over 90 in 2nd so I can’t really have any fun without risking my license all the time.
I have a 2023 CBR500R and a 2024 Ninja 500 (5 bikes in total), I would have to say the CBR is definitely a much better riding bike, it has better tires (Michelin Road 5 vs. Dunlop Sportmax), better brakes (2 brake rotor vs. 1), a lot better front suspension and the overall feel of the CBR is better....to me the Ninja rides and feels like a cheap economy bike. Furthermore when riding the Ninja on the highway you get blown around with even the slightest wind. However the Nina is a lighter bike and is much more flickable.
I'm getting my A2 and I have doubts. Between a used RS660 with 17k km for 8k€ vs RS 457 new 7k€ vs ninja 400 used 15k km for 5k€. I don't really know for what should i go. 😟
I went ninja 40th anniversary 500. Kawasaki Honda Husqvarna dealership 3mins away. Other dealers are at least 45min and Aprilia i don't know where one is near me? Wasn't a hard choice with 2years unlimited km warranty
i am not sure if it was this chanel in that video they also got that wrong about tyres,. Aprilia tyres are from TVS from india ,Could have researched well.
Sad to see CFMoto having issues with Electronics. It's an amazing bike and if it didn't have that issue it would have had some chance against these bikes. But yeah hopefully CFMoto resolves this issue.
Great video, but please fix the camera settings/editing! The colors are really off - the orange KTM looks yellow, the red lines look orange. It makes otherwise brilliant paint jobs look bland and unappealing. It's not just this video but others as well
Cfmoto prices in asia are really great compared to you guys. Because for the price it gives i think its pretty nice. It maybe chinese manufactured but cfmoto has one of the biggest facilities in asia, i can really see some parts and assembly happen of other bike companies. Really a great option to pick
You guys get ripped off over the in GB with motorcycles. In Australia at current exchange rates, you can get the KTM RC390 for around £4200 OTD, CFMOTO 450SR-S for £4800 OTD, Ninja 500 for £4900 OTD, CBR500R for £5700 OTD, Aprilia 457 for £6500 OTD.
These numbers all seem a little off. I had a 2018 Ninja 400 and hit a GPS verified top speed of 118. You'd think a little more power should put this one in the 120ish range.
Rs457 and 450sr for me. Change those tyres on that rs and turn off the electronic on the sr and they're both gonna be the best bikes in its class. Honda and kawa? Too much to do just to make em a proper sportbikes. Ktm is good too but that single cylinder really a turn down.
It’s a shame you couldn’t talk more to the highlights of the CFMoto, I understand there was a bug but you really discounted a bike every other review seems to rave about. I feel like this review needed five riders for five bikes.
