First and second place are vehicles built by manufacturers that have terrible reliability history... make sure you sell them before the warranty runs out to people who have no idea how terrible they'll be out of warranty 😅😅
An unbiased UTE test where the Hilux is not included, a legend like the Triton comes 4th, neither first or second place is Japanese, the Amarok comes 2nd ?? 😂
Definitely, and it's the only one with 10 year/200,000km warranty. The VW definitely has a Gate Warranty; as soon as you drive it out of the dealership gates, it expires!
It's surprising to see the absence of certain models, including the Hilux (the country's second-best-selling ute), the LDV T60 Max with its new plus version featuring coil spring rear suspension, the GWM Cannon XSR, and the new GWM Alpha with factory front diff lock. It seems car sales need to do their homework, as the average buyer cannot afford high-end options like the Ranger or Amarok. Hopefully, CarExpert will include all models in their upcoming ute test, providing a more comprehensive comparison for consumers.
As they said at the start of the video. They were only using vehicles at around the $75k price point. The Hilux GR Sport has poor pay load, very expensive services and is well behind the others in terms of features and on-road driving. The GWM Aplha wasn't released when they did the video.
Should've set the proper Drive Mode first before proceeding, Mitsubishi clearly told how it would be the basis for the tune of its M-ASTC. So the first part of the Triton's off-road test was clearly a driver skill issue. Even in 4HLc, the M-ASTC system will stick to road tune if the Drive Mode wasn't set to the proper terrain. Overall package, the Ranger will feel superior at first but definitely would want to opt for something more capable especially off-road and with peace of mind for long-term ownership. That's clearly and definitely not the Ford :)
Great comparison, thanks. As a recent BT50 buyer... I'd have been interested in a more comprehensive look at all the driver assist tech in these and how useful or intrusive they are. They are definitely not all created equal
I feel the VW Amarok Style is the better pick over the Pan-Americana. Option it with the leather and it's significantly cheaper only missing out on the premium sound. However even the non leather seats look and feel fantastic and arguably more comfortable.
Good review. Practical, down to earth commentary. Enjoyed it. Who cares about Hilux. 6 month services and the Toyota tax. Enough already said about it.
It's interesting that the alleged 1%-ers were the things that separated the Ranger from the Amarok, yet it's those very 1%-ers that convinced me to order an Amarok Pan Americana. Roll-top tonneaus take up valuable tub space, so not having one is a bonus. I have ordered an older style soft tonneau that will provide adequate coverage for anything I will be carrying in the tub. The lack of 12V and lighting that will be in a tub exposed to weather is not loss. Just something else to go wrong. The Amarok was the most comfortable of the vehicles I could test drive (please note Ford did not provide a test drive despite six (6) of enquiries) and the layout in the Amarok was perfect and sensible from the moment I sat in the driver's seat. If you want to be as common and as flashy as all the other "suits in Utes" then you buy a Ranger. But if you want a stylish finish while driving on sealed surfaces or tackling the tough tracks off-road, you buy the Amarok...and you do it all in stylish European chic!!!
Agreed but when there is a V6 600Nm Ranger in the comp, the rest are not in the same ball park. But it would have been interesting to see how they all performed relative to each other.
And you can leave it in full-time 4WD without blowing up the transmission, not like most the others. The only people who don't like Tritons are the people who have never driven one.
“What about all these?” The fact you leave out the extremely popular GWM Cannon and LDV T60 says it all. Afraid of a bit of competition to your usual favourites of Hilux/Ranger winning everything?
@@carsalesthat's not a particularly objective approach, sounds like you made up your mind even before you did the review. Did the owners of your channel not approve of including Chinese made cars?
Traction control should replace the diff lock for new 4wd. Why would TC be included with all 4wd modes? TC prevents drive slip by stopping the free spinning wheel. This saves the extra modification to diffs to achieve all wheels driving regardless. I cant understand why TC is switched of in critical situations. Do they have test tracks after their assembly lines???
I’d still choose a Toyota , I drove a mates Rugged X after a long day of fishing and driving in the rain coming up the Clyde mountains it felt good better than my daily drive my Toyota Fortuner.
Where is the category for reliability? That would know ford well and truly off the purch that it has been put on. Yes have driven it and a magnificent vehicle but if it cannot do 400,000km without massive failures and costing a fortune, then……why would you purchase one? For work or play ? Enjoyed the coverage of the vid. Was comprehensive but needed is the reliability and long term cost of ownership. Please update your categories. I love most ppl will be looking forward to the updated vid, including reliability and long term cost of ownership….😀
I don’t understand all this ranger reliability bullcrap. Mine has 280k kms and have had zero, that’s right zero issues. The Hilux I had prior every dealership service there was something else they would “find” that needed replaced. I admit I do a lot of kms and sit idle a fair bit which they said stuffs the DPF apparently.
@@darrensmith4661 I should have mentioned mine is the px model. 3.2l. Use it for work, rarely off-road but couple beach runs and trails through the bush. Best car I’ve owned as far as reliability and just day to day comfortable rig to drive. Maybe the newer models with the 10 speed aren’t so great. Time will tell as It’s upgrade time and can’t wait for the new Hilux and the only other I would consider is a dmax. Tritons and navaras I’ve had in the past were absolute rubbish. Just little things like hose clamps failing but enough to have to have them tilt trayed back to the dealer. Costing me thousands of $ missed work due to being a contractor.
Look, I prefer the ranger interior myself…I like tech. but how can you ignore the triton for payload, off road capability (if you use settings right), and just crazy value? $10k cheaper, double warranty period… it’s a tight race between ranger and triton for me, the more mature and financially responsible me would take the triton straight away.
you know I could be wrong but I thought I saw bp51 remote res shocks on one of your cars, how is that fair testing? did all the cars have this upgrade?
The biggest issue is the add ons make the toyota next to useless if you need to tow a larger laod unless you get a GVM GCM upgrade even then that makes it about the same as the rest of utes without the upgrade.
I have just replaced a 2021 Hilux with a 2024 Ranger, night & Day, I loved the hilux but the ranger is so much better in every way. And before you go on about Toyota reliability mine spent 3 months at a Toyota dealer getting the rear differential rebuilt - long wait was for parts !!!
I agree. Of the first 26 Dakar Rallies (when it was a 20,000+km event) Mitsubishi won 12 times in bog standard Pajero's hence they were crowned "King Of The Desert"... then they changed the rules. My Pajero Sport spends a couple of months every year in the Central Australian desert country... mud holes, sand dunes, gravel... absolutely loves it.
@@mpho6573 its still same class and spec under regulation so they are modified on par. only the 1st winner a bit difference its modified for handicaped driver, he use throttle and brake by hand since the driver is a cripple and use wheelchair, still won 1st place though..
triton has best reliability and customer care for sure but i still think it could be heaps better. i dont understand why mitsy have not taken it to the next level. they know they can wipe the floor with all the others but just have an agenda thats set to be the greenest and thats it. to keep that 2.4 ( yes its been more given more power etc etc), but i still feel they have slapped the mitsy purist in the face. may be enough power for most but i still feel dissapointed. anyhow thats my rant.
Should have been titled, End of an era. The new generation of utes coming on stream will smash all of these guys. All of the big names have been raking in the dollars for a couple of badges, stickers and bigger wheels. When you're all singing from the same book of hymens, it opens the door for some shark to rip the competition apart. New companies are going to eat them alive with better tech, quality interiors, more power, warranty and when it come to value for money, these old trucks will be left sitting in showrooms. Those that are silly enough to have brand loyalty will be left in the dust.
They weren't left out, they were tested the same as the other five but they don't stack up to the same level. If you're interested in those models particularly we have single-car reviews to give you all the info you need.
I just went from a Navara to a Hilux, prefer the Navara, Hilux a generation behind, access less than ideal, bumpy ride. Both Navara and Hilux past their useby date. This is why it was a waste of time bringing these to the test.
@TonyHoyle-yx8eg thanks for the response, it's hard to get info these days, my priorities likely differ from this test, I work remote at times and need a 10 year+ workhorse without v8 fuel economy, and hopefully something that doesn't get me killed in the desert after 250,000k 👍
Can't wait for the bottom 5 to get a fair run. Not everyone has a lazy 70k+. Meanwhile, these cheaper models are closing in, and Carsales will be left behind, along with these overpriced, glory chasing rip-offs
Thumbs down from me on this one, not very objective reporting going on, sounds like you're favouring expensive utes with dubious reliability records at a time when Australian families are most struggling with cost of living.
I wouldn't pay 80K+ for a shitbox Ford ute made in Thailand, especially given their known drivetrain issues and Ford's poor reputation for after-sales service and warranty rectification.
Carsales, what a pointless review… yes the Hilux isn’t going to rate as high as some of the newer utes. But omitting the no 3 best selling vehicle from this review just highlights there are better car reviewers to follow. If you want a Ute as proper work ute look to what the mines use in the mining areas. Unsubscribed
We didn't omit it, we tested it and it failed to hit our top five for reasons mentioned in the video. This is about giving buyers a shortlist, if you want a full detailed review on the Hilux we have plenty of those on the channel.
I would like to add a comment, how many of you people who are making comments about this RU-vid post live in country Australia, by that I mean more than 200 kms from a capital city. If you do I would like to know what dealerships are in your area. If you live more than 500 kms, like I do, then then only dealership near me is Toyota.
You know why there are so many Toyota dealers and mechanics? its simple they like all cars break we have had Toyotas and they certainly were no better than the other cars and 4X4 we have had.
Top 3 1. Hilux ( how can you not have the best selling and performing Ute ever lol ) 2. Ranger ( 1 or 2 in Sales now ) 3. Triton ( Awesome & Cheap ). Those 3 utes will any other car reviewers test. Clearly a sponsored review or the Carsales team are ignorant.
How could you not include the Hilux, it is the second best selling ute in Australia. You mentioned running costs!, many dual cab utes are bought for towing. Toyota recommends oil changes six months or 10,000 kms. Any reputable mechanic suggests, when towing, servicing, including oil changes should be done at 5,000 kms. I think most of the current reviews on utes do not reflect this and the reviewer's are completely out of touch of who buys what utes and there reason for buying them.
This clip is about too soft suspension (cause of tail flick and unstable when picking maximum capacity) and too unnecessary equipments with pick up truck 1 ton.
@@richardwalsh5570 Hilux owner ? You know deep down its outdated.. even the Chinese trash coming in have more tech and features... And when Toyota finally come up with a new gen ute you will all be singing its praises....
@@__PJ__ no not a Hilux owner currently. Half the tech is bs and not required. I hate my Rangers big Tesla style screen. Love the Toyota level of tech and dials. When we all fall out with China see how these Chinese cars go for getting spares ? The Toyota will still be going when many of the others will be dead.
A Hilux Rogue would leave all these for dead in your ‘Torture Test’ None of these can take the amount of punishment it can. Granted, they are behind in tech (some like it simple though) and aren’t really comfortable on and off road, but they are far more durable than any of these
Those Toyota 70 series or troop things they still sell are a joke.. drove a "new" 2023 one and it felt like stepping into the 80's... yeah it had a V8 but wind down windows ffs.... it would fit in Russia or Nth Korea...
Plenty of old Isuzu still on the road, yes the original Holden Rodeo units, they have the reputation of durability too. Most just keep running totally being neglected of oil changes, don't know how but they do. Funny thing is, the original GWM V240 are still in great numbers up the top end in N/T and that has truly surprised me, who'd thought. Guessing they sold well here purely on purchase price. Good god, they must have hideous mileage on them by now, long ways between towns up this way. Been bloody long time since GWM sold them, but they have lasted also. Don't read too much into the Toyota durability, others have it too.
@@Levi-c6f All cars would if you serviced them properly and dropped the oil twice a year.. my 10 year old VF ute has done 370k and hasn't missed a beat.
All this shows, is that your better off building an older 4x4, much better more reliable 4x4, more capable, more power and fully fitted out for this kind of money y, 75k plus still needs another 30k worth of accessories. Lmfao.. only a fool would by a new ad blue 4x4 with8 all of this trap.
Driving experience The winner best Mitsubishi Triton first choice, Ford ranger second choice Nissan third choice Isuzu D-MAX number four choice Toyota Hilux fifth, Mazda bt50 Volkswagen amarok in the middle choice,Fiat fullback and Fiat titano is also the same doublet of Mitsubishi triton.
Agree on the Amarok but the Ranger does offer buttons for all audio and AC controls. Apart from heated and cooled seat buttons, demist buttons, the Triton doesn;t seem to offer anything extra on buttons.
As someone who owns a current BT 50 but has a current Hilux work vehicle. Hilux is better in every aspect. Especially power and torque. BT or the Isuzu is a poor especially if you want to tow.
Hilux is built for work and durability…it amazes me that these reviewers focus on screens and infotainment rather than off-road abilities and reliability in a 4wd workhorse segment 🤷
I had a Hilux, then new model BT50 then now back in a Hilux. I couldn’t agree more. BT50 was so cheaply made. Only thing better was that the seats were comfy. I hated driving being in it so much that sold it a year later.
In the Ranger, 4A isn't "centre diff unlocked". There is no centre diff. It uses a clutch pack to drive the front wheels. 4A is an on demand AWD setting not a full time AWD setting like the 4H in the Triton. Having owned, driven and towed with a MN and MR Triton, driven a MV Triton, owned, driven and towed with a V6 Ranger Wildtrak, there is a noticeable difference in feel and performance between the Mitsi SS2 and the Ford 4A systems. The Mitsi is the superior in my experience. Regardless, making comments implying the Ford has a centre diff or that the systems are similar in operation undermines your authority to offer any sort of informed review. 5 min of googling would have given you an understanding of how the systems operate. The Fords torque distribution display would also have shown that 4A is not constant AWD.
Triton impressive as usual , the drive mode selection is definitely important when going offroad. Car expert paul got the same issues you got when doing the offroad test , the difference is he didnt understand how the mode selection works for the triton. He didnt figure out to use the mud mode when doing the offroad test in 4hlc when the wheels were losing traction. He also didnt use 4llc , for the offroad test when its clearly the mode everyone will use for heavy offroading. he didnt understand how to engage the mode selection between modes because the modes were not engaging He didnt understand how to engage the hand brake , because the triton was rolling backwards on his hill test.
Paul failed to at least understand how to use the drive modes, which only involves simple pressing of a button to change, hence why the Triton performed poorly. This guy on the other hand, also miserably failed to use common sense but kicked in on the latter part.
Common theme among aussie reviewers it seems. Yet the Super Select II system has been around for a while now, and nothing has changed with the system as a whole. I've used mine offroad a few times now (MV GSR Triton) and have had zero issues. There is definitely an aspect of user error, yet it's such a simple system to use 🤷🏾♂️
@MiggyMndza I think it's a good thing that this guy fumbled a bit, reason being , he confirmed that the modes in the new mv triton are very important when performing specific tasks. For instance in regular 4h sand or snow the traction control is not aggressively tuned because this is the mode you would be using on the highway, so if one wheel loses traction in snow or rain It won't aggressively send power to the other wheels which could cause the entire vehicle to fish tail or spin out of control But when you are on a trail, the mud mode tunes the traction control aggressively , so if you are going Over an obstacle , it will break the outside wheel to send more power If the other wheels are not touching the ground And off course 4llc just turns the mv triton into an offroad beast with no fuss. Paul from car expert could not figure this out , and instead of admitting he is at fault for lack of understanding, he blames the vehicle. I give carsales credit for showing us how the new mv triton modes really operate in the real world.
@@warcrabcyber9908 . Definitely the use of the modes does help, not a bad thing! One thing with the carexpert review is when switching modes from 2H to 4H, it was done stationary and in gear......this instantly won't allow the system to changeover and one of the reasons he had trouble, but proceeded to give it a bad wrap. Also, the stock tyres that come on the GLS and GSR are the most horrible tyre I've ever driven on. While they are marketed as an All-Terrain, they are anything but that. A slightly damp road had me sideways with those tyres at granny's pace on at least 3 occasions. I've since gotten rid of them and have had far more grip in the wet. So if they are that bad on the road, imagine off road where the surface is loose. While I would have absolutely loved a Wildtrak, my MV GSR has been incredible and zero regrets with it's abilities. Not too mention saved myself some coin over the price gouging from local Ford dealers.
