It feels like guys trying to make old school jeeps out of the new parts catalog. Nothing mechanical, it's just "threw some dana 60s at it". Where's the four wheel independent Cherokee? Where's the fully automatic Wagoneer with off-road focused computer controls on the lockers and suspension and drive? Where's the factory four link Gladiator Victory?
Did Jim Morrison and Mark Allen tell them to start jacking up the prices? I’m pretty sure they weren’t the problem with Jeep lately. Actually, they were two I actually could tell were Jeepers.
Vince Galante, it’s not a car it’s a JEEP! I wonder if your hearts really in the right place for this brand. I have had JEEPs for 40 years and never came across anyone who refused to call it anything other than a JEEP.
Am I the only one who doesn’t like any of these? Jeep seriously needs to get back to its roots with a low tech, no frills, just the essentials Jeep. The regular Blue Collar consumer can’t afford any of it. These kind of new models are part of the reason used car prices are at an all time high. Just my $.02
I'm speechless, at one time I owned 7 licensed jeeps that were all capable onroad and off, now that they are showing all these concept cars I'm pretty sure I have bought my last new Jeep. In 2015 my wife wanted a new Grand Cherokee I was shocked to find there is not a tow hook anywhere on the vehicle, dealer said they could not install one due to the optional grille package on the vehicle. These execs don't get it! I dont want designer plaid, I want a utility vehicle!
Amen! Stop trying to turn them into luxury cars! I'm loving the skinny tires and steel wheels and the stripped down shortcut concept. I'm not excited about 12" screens and crap.
BLM "we are lucky enough that the Bureau of Land Management allows a lot of recreational use" Thats nice of them to allow the people to use the peoples land.
@@coloradomallcrawlers when you have jeep execs and engineer leads calling the wrangler a car, they do not understand the longterm impact to the industry.
We get your point, Keith, it's been a continuing battle for 50 years. But folks like Melissa, who is a contract 'monitor' is great to work with and simply needs to abide by the regulations passed down the chain. Thanks for the input.
Agreed, Tyson. One of the biggest challenges in keeping trails open is that of the millions of OHV users only a small fraction get involved in land-use legislation at the local, regional, and national levels. If everyone did, or at least join/support regional associations, the BRC, etc., we would have much greater clout/voice in the political arena. Thanks for the input.
Hey Natan. It's a slip of the tongue. Chris Collard here; I'm the guy that shoots the concepts, new Ram Trucks, and lots of other OEM vehicles. We in the industry, even if we are Jeep guys (I own a `52 Willys and the Expedicion de las Americas CJ-7 in the background), have a tendency to call everything a car. When I'm radioing in for the next vehicle to take is place for a shoot I'll say, "Next car please." I'm still here in Moab with the exec team and will mention it do them. Thanks for the comment. C-
@@adventurearchitectsllc9058I’ve owned 7 wranglers (6 bought new from the dealer) over the last 20+ years. I’ve probably only called my Jeeps a car 1-3 times over that time. But it’s not just that… this whole presentation has really caused me to lose confidence in current leadership. This is coming from someone who doesn’t really label stuff appropriately either (we’re not true mallcrawlers)
I was hoping to see a two door long wheel base modern CJ-8 with a Hurricane in line 6. Better yet if it has a manual transmission and no extra electronic BS. I don't need or want a friggin TV screen in the dash.
CJ-8 with a Hurricane; great idea. Its the new mill for the Ram 1500s as well. "Electronic BS," we're kinda stuck with it from here on out. Thanks for the feedback.
Maserati is such a successful brand, good thing they got this guy as the head of Jeep, because he knows so much about them and building a strong brand image. What a joke!
I’ve never felt more disconnected with Jeep in over 20 years of owning them after hearing that intro from the new guys. It’s getting hard to defend modern Jeep to other off-roaders.
Those men (the new CEO and the head of design) do not give me confidence that Jeep is in good hands moving forward. And that spokes person is one of the worst I’ve seen. She looks totally out of her element.
Sorry, but you can tell that the heads of Jeep don't embody the Jeep spirit. Perception is reality. If they call it a car and have to TRY to call it a Jeep to fit in, then 99% of the time, it's not a "Jeep" to them. Edit: oh, and.... saying it's in a "race stance," just proves that they are out of touch.
I would like to know what brand of air lift suspension you’re using on the Gladiator High. I’ve been looking at some for a 6 door LJ limo that I’m working on. Checked some Accuair ones out at KOH that look promising.
@@Gone_Gpn Thank you. What I'm working on is a flame red 2006 LJ with a soft top, strached into a 6 door limo, 4.6 stroker engine, Atlas 4 speed transfer case, 35" tires, most likely going to 37" when I get the Currie 60 axles installed and trying to have rear steer. Putting PRP seats and upholstery in it, still need to stiffen up the frame, add long arms and some tall air ride suspension or 14" coilovers, replacing the gas tank with a 32 gallon tank. Trying to keep the body parts looking mostly stock. I have 3 other well built Jeeps, but having fun with this 06 LJ LIMO right now.
Jeep absolutely needs to design the bed of the gladiator to be adjustable in length. Its not good at being a truck or an offroader. GM/Chevy is already patenting deigns. FORD is rumored to be doing the same. Jeep cant sell these little trucks as is, so they need to do something.
We can only guess the Hurricane is coming, it is the new mill for 2024 Ram 1500s. Collard drove one a few months ago and was pretty impressed, even towing a 7,500-pound trailer.
Yep, pretty rough on the new guy. Collard replied to one, let him/her know as a commercial photographer in the auto biz they everything a 'car' or 'vehicle,' doesn't matter if it's a Corvette or Ram Power Wagon. Hope never slips up on a video or we'll have to fire him:)
Carbonated, no computer, strait axel, soft top.. Only thing I need is a heater.... Don't want air bags, camera, touch screen... If that's no legal, sell it as a off road Only & I'll register it accordingly.. 20,000 or less.. hahaha!!! (I'll buy 2)
@@Gone_Gpn yes, Rick. I am struck by how many comments are about Jeep getting away from its heritage. If you want stripped down, buy a CJ 2 and then tell me how much fun it is to drive to work. My first Jeep was a 1957 CJ5. It was about as much fun to drive around town as a ox cart. It was only fun off the road. This company can't build products that the public will buy that are not practical for everyday use. Get over it... Only complaint I have is the guy who kept calling the Dispatcher a Willy's. Makes me cringe...
The Grand Cherokee is nice but that’s gonna cost over $150,000 as equipped. Also in the Jeep why take out the radio screen and leave speakers and subwoofer in?!? That’s wild
All they want to do is raise the price up, up and up some more. What people really want is a Jeep without all the extra tech - too much is lost turning it into a street vehicle. Jeep forgets who their core base really is. It all comes down to the ownership mismanaging the brand and not understanding the American market
When your head of design for Jeep brand calls them cars. LOL. Surprised no one shanked these frauds. The shortcut is the only one I could afford. But as with most new vehicles, I am sure the stripped-out version will cost only a few bucks less than the base models. MFG will claim that the parts they upgrade offset the cost of the features removed. I call that typical BS. The axle cost is negligible in cost. Of course, it is more, but it is not 10k more. Hell, they do not even list the tech specs of the drivetrain anymore. The most they get into on the website is the gear ratio. Shortcut could be a win if it comes with 2.4l NA 4cyl, LSD axles, soft top with half doors, and price tag under 30k including BS destination charge, which we only have because dealers are still allowed to be monopolies for automotive MFGs except for Tesla and Rivian who do not require new cars to be picked up at stealerships. And I am not pro EV.
It's disappointing to watch. Not exciting options at all. Is either Jeep is now lacking ideas or poor sales from their overpriced inventory has tightened up their budget. Do better Stelantis!
I love my jeeps, both new and old, but if I hear "increased content" again I'm going to 🤮. I hope the cheaper equivalent trucks and upcoming next gen 4runner gut Jeep sales. They need to backtrack their pricing, not bloat their vehicles with more weight and things to fail.
Hey Damon, thanks for the feedback. Regarding showing presentation, we wanted to share with you and other Gone-GPN fans what we media dudes experience, and folks that want to skip ahead to the rigs can do so. Jeep on!
All you need to remember Stelantis is an Italian car company. Jeep is a convenient cash cow that keeps them afloat. The American heritage of Jeep means very little except as a source of income. They dont live in Toledo... At least I got my diesel Gladiator before they dumped the oil burner. I'll be buried in it!
How come Miss BLM wasn't booed out of there? I still can't believe they closed so many trails here in the Moab area. It seems to be a trend across the US. Makes it harder to vote for Biden even when I hate Trump so bad. Keep the trails open!
Hi Toolam3, Melissa is actually a licensed BLM contract monitor; required for commercial shoots. Collard says she is super cool and always easy to work with. However, she still has to play by the rules that are passed down the chain.
Stellantis put their people in charge of Jeep and they just don’t understand what the brand is. This does not bode well and it’s no coincidence to me that this is the weakest year of concepts for the JL at EJS… give us a more efficient smaller v8 as a regular option and let’s start putting some Dana 50’s in the Rubicons and 44’s across more models. You’d sell all of them in a heartbeat.
As a Jeep owner, I see the JEEP brand is circling the drain. It fails to just make affordable, reliable rigs as they were meant to be w/o excess frills & stupid techy gizmos that break. Jeep has lost its way becuz it's trying to identify as a Merc, BMW, Cadillac, and anything else not worthy of the Jeep history. Just put her to rest already, Stellantis!
I have the $$$ set aside to buy a Jeep, but not until they take those POS Fiat engines out, and put the inline 6 or a small block V8 back. You shouldn't have to rebuild your engine 50k in at the cost of 10k, it's an insult to the Jeep name.