2024 Elections: Capital Flight or Fight? In conversation with Dr Mathews Phosa & Mesh Pillay

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@xabisombobo6242 Месяц назад

He doesn’t sounds like the Mathews Phosa who wanted to resign from leadership of ANC… hypocrite 😅

@berthalesia7629 Месяц назад

You don't know Him finish and klaar. This man he is a revolutionary unlike you

@bonelelamene7918 Месяц назад

Big liar this one... No integrity doctor 😂😂😂😂

@MrEvansjethro Месяц назад

DA members I see.

@Roskim64 Месяц назад

So what has Phosa got to say about Transnet and Eskom - Apartheid did not screw them up

@aarongunnz9513 Месяц назад

You can ask that again 😅😂😅😂

@sulaak Месяц назад

ANC had 30 years! What have they done with it?

@MrEvansjethro Месяц назад

@sulaak What they've done is to service the majority of the natives, than a less than 10% of settlers.

@bonganimkwanazi4683 Месяц назад

Thank you Dr Phosa... I won't even say anything to spoil all you said.

@ChrisWilkinson100 Месяц назад

Government (Parliament) should not be about party politics. All members of parliament should do their best for the country, not their parties. At 78 I have lived all my life under a one-party government. Now's our chance to build a United South Africa. I hope ALL our politicians work towards this goal and put their egos aside. Good luck. I hope I live long enough to see the kind of country my children and grandchildren will live in.

@ayakhasokabo8816 Месяц назад

Agreed 🤝

@peterzinn9070 Месяц назад

DA voters didn't vote for ANC 😊

@MartinMenge Месяц назад

Some did. There were two ballots.

@thabokabai4188 Месяц назад

What a great episode. Very balanced views. Both Dr Phosa and Mr Pillay from YW Capital have given some comfort and reassurance.

@pieterjordaan73 Месяц назад

Any one against DA not being part of this new administration....does not like a clean reliable enthical non corrupt stable govt.

@sphalush8261 Месяц назад

I actually wish that ANC can go ahead and partner with this DA of yours so that you lot will be humbled when the inevitable dismal failure of this marriage happen!

@katlegonkaletse4529 Месяц назад

So stealing land is not corruption?

@MatthewGarton Месяц назад

Dr Phosa's suggestion that the DA should be left out of government because they oppose the ANC's failed policies is ridiculous

@xabisombobo6242 Месяц назад

…and naive.

@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Месяц назад

He knows that the DA will uncover skeletons he and the ANC leaders have... He knows they will go to jail

@HloniNonodi Месяц назад

Its called self determination, its enshrined on the constitution

@0761ZoRO Месяц назад

Tell us what you just took

@0761ZoRO Месяц назад

Tell us what you just took

@lorrainenaidoo3017 Месяц назад

100%Dr Phosa.

@chirous Месяц назад

Dr Mathew Phosa my hero represented us very well

@carldossantos7213 Месяц назад

As nice a guy as Mathews Phosa is, he has demonstrated how wholly inept the ANC is. What he is saying is contradictory to how the ANC actually behaves! crazy!

@aarongunnz9513 Месяц назад

ANC people are all lost

@APConsept Месяц назад

Opinion should be taken into account and respected in order to move forward

@anthonyhewat9254 Месяц назад

Nice?

@mossfairy3060 Месяц назад

The dA are the only party who's province works ffs.. how can you not want them in the loop MK/ANC/EFF a disaster waiting to happen.. how can you not see that🤬

@tmlsa9830 Месяц назад

Works for who?

@mulamulelilumadi4717 Месяц назад

The DA is a party that defends almost exclusively minority rights/privileges. Whenever there has been an opportunity to change this, interests entrenched in that party have undermined it. The DA policy platform doesn't address the need for increased government intervention. Infrastructure, education, crime prevention and law enforcement are very necessary to create a country that attracts internal/external investments. Otherwise we'll sit with high unemployment, crime and terrible political stability.

@lm_b5080 Месяц назад

@@tmlsa9830 i'm black and moved to WC. 80% of the people in my office are xhosa (accountants, lawyers, marketing), many live in langa, kayalitsha. it works. 70% of the city budget is geared toward upgrading these areas too

@tonitappous2422 Месяц назад

See- DA delivers for the poor and vulnerable, BusinessDay. See - Impressive new school in the Western Cape, RU-vid.

@aarongunnz9513 Месяц назад

They are preparing a dictatorship

@jacobpretorius2741 Месяц назад

He was the first ANC kader who said it's our time to eat whe didn't suffer for nothing. We know what follows looting and stealing.

@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 Месяц назад

Naked LIIIIIEEEES

@ndumisodlamini711 Месяц назад

Thank you Dr Phosa, great argument and objective. Wish these conversations not a show but see the light of day. Africans need more people like you. Thank You eternal

@colleenwerth6350 Месяц назад

Loved this conversation and the wisdom from experience. A pleasure to listen to.

@MorolongWaGaTlou Месяц назад

Mesh looking good.....well done Bro. I remember when you moved on your own a couple of years ago and now i visit your website and got blown away. Super well done.

@APConsept Месяц назад

Well done Dr Phosa well articulated

@lm_b5080 Месяц назад

ANC/EFF/MK coalition is a massive business opportunity for us in the WC. Already the real estate market in CT is seeing record interest as people relocate. The WC government should now actively start courting Jhb & Dbn companies to relocate their HQ's to CT. We should convince SMEs to come set up shop in a pro-business province. Wesgro should run marketing campaigns in Gauteng & KZN to convince people to move to WC

@sicelosimelane3844 Месяц назад

Thats a good idea as long as those companies will hire local workers

@TSG0195 Месяц назад

That's the power of freedom to choose - let all who need relocation or emigrating be allowed to do so. We're staying put in KZN.

@gstar3569 Месяц назад

Then we gain independence via constitutional law regarding self determination

@gstar3569 Месяц назад

@@TSG0195 good luck with that 🤣

@lm_b5080 Месяц назад

@@gstar3569 i think this is fair. there's clearly a massive chasm in SA that mandela tried to sugar coat - some of us see turning into Zim as a massive threat, others see it as a great opportunity for true emancipation. maybe its time we let each do their thing

@keneilwekethupilwe9934 Месяц назад

Thank you Dr Phosa

@fela1489 Месяц назад

Dr Phosa spot on, but loved all the contributors. Challenging questions and good analysis.

@bruceaulabaugh Месяц назад

Excellent discussion. Thanks to all parties.

@ThuIaniNgobeni Месяц назад

This guy Mathews Phosa is disastrous.

@peterzinn9070 Месяц назад

All ANC cadres are useless

@whza75 Месяц назад

He is just an old timer ANC, blind to what is happening. His team has lost, but his cabinet is full of old, now useless ANC trophies.

@nomalungelongcete5875 Месяц назад

@whza75 Mantashe once said there's no retirement in politics 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@abelmaila9778 Месяц назад

Dr Phoosa is Goat, Pure Genius,, learnt a lot from this Podcast Episode.

@coachbrendan Месяц назад

Well said, Mike. Your analysis and questioning are always objective. Your responses are also always rational. Keep it up

@SA_PASF Месяц назад

The indian guy is neutral

@zeemavatha9115 Месяц назад

Thank you Dr Phosa for bringing context to the discussion - 🫡

@BrotherM1978 Месяц назад

And he did so unapologetically 🫡 😊

@Amôpeacekg Месяц назад

It's so sad but funny how Black people thinks MK and EFF represent Black people. Politicians won't save no one but themselves.

@sonofsoweto Месяц назад

Just like the DA represent white people, right?

@tmlsa9830 Месяц назад

What's more funnier is clever Blacks thinking DA represents them.

@Amôpeacekg Месяц назад

@@tmlsa9830 I see where your argument is going but, DA is an economical and industrialisation movement and those who admire to work hard for themselves will get opportunity under conducive environment of DA. but those who are lazy will demands freebies and that's what is attractive. Unlike the so called black parties that promises to increase social grants. That's low...

@williamdibakwane9355 Месяц назад

@@Amôpeacekg Lol, i wonder if you even believe what you just said about the DA

@tmlsa9830 Месяц назад

@@Amôpeacekg Who's fault is that, that the ANC had to inherit a majority that is excluded from the economy based on the colour of their skin.? In the DA's eyes BLACKS are just cheap labour, and can never be leaders of industries. The DA is there to protect the status quo and I can tell you now it is not sustainable.

@elizeleroux6388 Месяц назад

say yes to the DA, the reason why he acts like this, because he lives in luxury from the system running now.

@mossfairy3060 Месяц назад

Do the ppl really believe the MK or EFF will do any better...

@louismzobe3073 Месяц назад

Zuma did not decide to form his own party, he was pushed to do so

@manuel-vl9eu Месяц назад

ANC And DA, have today a historical responsibility to “save” South Africa. It’s just another opinion.

@leslenesantana7575 Месяц назад

Well done Mike!

@mzamosokhela8876 Месяц назад

Alec talks about them flying to India in 1991... Phosa is talking about us still poor today, can't even fly to JHB or Cape Town.., this really shows our different realities.

@johnmills9360 Месяц назад

The ANC should educate their supporters what "The Markets" are , many think you can simply tell "The Markets" to "voetsek" and there are no consequences ... Sorry for you , there is an instantaneous response in the currency which effects the price of fuel , interest rates and employment . You can no more tell "The Markets" to "voetsek" than you can tell the tides or the ocean what to do . "The Markets" are the rest of the 8 Billion people in the world and we don't want them to just ignore us .

@lm_b5080 Месяц назад

i am always pleasantly surprised in my travels to asia how business-oriented different asian youths are. for them entrepreneurship & business is the core ambition in life. all of this is predicated by an education that is in touch with tech + 4IR. the big dream in many of those countries for young people is to be a startup founder, in SA it is to be a marxist-style revolutionary

@nqobazindela63 Месяц назад

Why the markets are always mentioned and prioritized in these talks? We're we voted for markets or businesses to make money or people as imarginalized to have an access to economy of this country? The whole thing has diverted now. Local economy and security is no longer on the table. This is where you loose it.

@SA_PASF Месяц назад

Poor people don't worry about the market. They worry about food

@lm_b5080 Месяц назад

@@SA_PASF ...food comes from the market

@SA_PASF Месяц назад

@lm_b5080 Poor people care less about where the food comes from, as long as they don't have food they will revolt

@isaacsekororomakelana2150 Месяц назад

Mr Matthew Phosa's comments show more maturity in both politics and the economy. He is indeed an asset for Republic of South Africa.

@user-su4ib9du1y Месяц назад

Genuine discussion right there ,honest inputs

@TightDenim Месяц назад

The host sounds like he didn’t do much research about the said companies keeps bringing up. And he is very pessimistic about the fortunes of the country. Yet the numbers (fdi) do not support this. The gentleman he interviewed really tried to school him

@pyotrtchaikovsky9097 Месяц назад

To thinks we've got airheads like this one as our leaders is just downright scary!

@zeemavatha9115 Месяц назад

I appreciate the frank & honest discussions from both guests.

@comancheflyer4903 Месяц назад

Politics is not for the people, it's self interest period.

@shanebrody8705 Месяц назад

You missed the most imperative question: Dr Phosa suggests a coalition with the EFF as a main ideological partner - how do their policies inspire investor confidence that he suggests the ANC is serious about? Are investors excited by talk of nationalisation and Expropriation of property without compensation?

@mosesmoeketsi3501 Месяц назад

Mr phosa please give progress a chance, DA says it is willing to work with a party that create jobs, that protects the constitution and has second majority so if interested development listen to those who have common interest in positive development of the country regardless of race.

@mauritzvandenheever2780 Месяц назад

Mr Phosa by all account is someone with a very open mind and surely in his heart and mind he for a long time knew that the ANC failed on many aspects but understandingly he has now choice but to keep on defending the ANC and the broader views even if he knows that the DA will bring so much more dynamic views and actions to the table.

@DesignThinkingWithLungile Месяц назад

One thing I picked up from this interview is that people like Mike and the DA tend to be alarmist when their political preferences don’t win the day. When you are in government you have to balance the social and the economic interests of the country. The narrative that South Africa is not attractive to foreign investors is not entirely true. They can’t shove the DA down people’s throats. The DA might be very good administratively, wich is something business appreciates, but some of their policies have alienated the majority of the people in this country “Especially poor black South Africans”. I am not in anyways defending the ANC. It’s obvious that they could have done better.

@davidclowes2280 Месяц назад

We need a picture of the future with ideal governance for all. Care for each other with proper character. Mogen Mogeng is your example of a leader!!!

@BrotherM1978 Месяц назад

All I can say is :THANK YOU DR PHOSA. Someone expected you to say what they want to hear but you spoke your mind 💯 😂😂😂. I wonder if they will call you again 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️

@sakkiekibido1665 Месяц назад

The host like guests that agree with him. I can hear from his tone and his vocal stance when there is a guest that doesnt support his views.

@gkandishishi Месяц назад

Discussion like this just highlights that knowledge is power. The rebuttal from Dr Posa about making good comparisons and looking at things from other perspective were point on. Mr Pillay was strictly on being neutral as compared to the interviewer.

@maxwellbosso3082 Месяц назад

Dr Phosa for President

@KutloanoMatela Месяц назад

We have a choice as South Africans. Do we continue on the path the ANC lead us and keep focusing on apartheid colonialism and the horrors of the past? Or do we choose capitalist parties to lead us into law and order, prosperity, ethics and morality, heal, unite, deal with current issues and address the past properly and appropriately. It's our choice. 63% chose ANC EFF MK 37 chose DA and other parties ANC needs to choose wisely and do the right thing that works but isn't always popular for a change not the popular thing that always never works.

@ambrosepadayachy459 Месяц назад

It's not about 'black' only. You have already destroyed the country. DA IS NOT ABOUT COLONIALISM. THAT'S PAST TENSE. YOU JUST WANT YOUR CORRUPT ANC COMRADES CONTINUE TO STEAL.

@ambrosepadayachy459 Месяц назад

THE ANC DOES NOT HONOR THE CONSTITUTION OF SA.

@ambrosepadayachy459 Месяц назад

ANC, EFF, MK LOVE CORRUPTION. EVEN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES IS A MESS. LOOK AT THEIR TRACK RECORDS.

@ambrosepadayachy459 Месяц назад

Matthew's Phosa have been silent for a long time. He knows the ANC is corrupt.

@ambrosepadayachy459 Месяц назад

THE DA HAS CLEAN, DEMOCRATICALLY SOUND POLICIES.

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Месяц назад

In 1994 it was asked of us "consider the markets and stability", we did, and we were rewarded with a long stable bout of poverty and worsening inequality in the most unequal nation in the universe.

@lightningRatPack Месяц назад

That was not the market's fault. The majority supported and allowed the looting and the stealing.

@lightningRatPack Месяц назад

@@WynandMeyering Thats not true, it was because of the end to apartheid, many companies returned to south Africa. SA was one of the top countries in the world. It had nothing to do with socialism if it did why did everyone leave when we become more socialist. its because companies and busiensses dont want that.

@mossfairy3060 Месяц назад

Thanks to the black party you choice when it came to vote, don't blame it on whites

@sasha8664 Месяц назад

No one asked Kweres😂

@lightningRatPack Месяц назад

@@WynandMeyering Yes, and let companies produce. That is all capitalist. that will boost the country.

@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou Месяц назад

The people's decision to bestow a challenged for obligation to lead the nation to prosperity for all isn't shouldn't be called power,power is too easily abused,it should be a calling and a privilege, not a mandate of self enrichment.

@ShaunGunter-vj2ih Месяц назад

When last have we heard the phrase Proudly South African

@ddhuz00100 Месяц назад

Rugby World Cups..

@katlegontsoane7528 Месяц назад

The shell example is false, they're leaving multiple countries based on their on reason not because it's South Africa

@robbiemair8506 Месяц назад

The keeper of Israel slumbers not..... the anc raised its voice against Israel!!!!

@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Месяц назад

They shouldn't have?

@Demawi650 Месяц назад

My centiments exactly!!!! They hardly even where thier Gaza scarves nowadays 😂😂😂

@ohsure07 Месяц назад

So did Hamas not start the war?

@sonofsoweto Месяц назад

Lol, zionists try to spiritualise everything. Everyone knew since 2021 that the ANC was going to loose

@tmlsa9830 Месяц назад

@@ohsure07When?

@jamesdaubeney1 Месяц назад

Well done Mike for keeping this interview on track and not backing down on the issues of business and investment. The elephant in the room is jobs. With all the anti-business behaviour coming from the ANC and worse from the EFF no-one wants to say where the jobs are coming from. The NDR is still ANC policy and the EFF are 100% communist so this not business-friendly. Expropriation is a huge issue for business. The issue of Starlink is a good example of own goals through business unfriendly policy.

@ExcitedBreakingWaves-oh3zb Месяц назад

Well said Mr Mathews.

@user-su4ib9du1y Месяц назад

We must also be mindful of politics and ideology, ideologies very from political parties and they sometimes like water and oil ,that's exactly where Mathews Phosa is moving from,He doesn't mean DA can't be in parly, He Himself is from a completely different school of thoughts politically

@chirous Месяц назад

Thats why DA and ANC will never see eye to eye this interview says its all

@cernugaming Месяц назад

Can someone please explain to me why you do not want to vote for the DA and why the DA should not be in charge of this country?

@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175 Месяц назад

Can you tell me why in DA there are more black people than white people on the ground but when it comes to mps there are more white people than the black people.

@ndumisondumisoo2412 Месяц назад

Hellen zila said we have been fighting to destroy anc for 30yrz now we done. Which means they started on the term of mandela which tells u they never accepted to be lead by black gov

@StemereMaja-ug6pj Месяц назад

DA is handled by the WMC whose interest is against the majority of South Africans. DA is against bricks formation

@sphiwedlamini5592 Месяц назад

And they are pulling in different positions in terms of policies.

@calvinfhatuwani4616 Месяц назад

Matthew Mphosa is a leader ✊🏿

@robertraine1953 Месяц назад

When the 4th largest economy wants to invest, Mike you object.

@Kganki.N.Mphahlele Месяц назад

We agree with Commander Mathews Phosa, especially on the fact thst DA must be excluded on the Government on National Unity and we are absolutely unapologetic about that. We equallt agree on black left unity in majority, lastly that MK must take the KZN premiership, but they must be in the GNU as well to advance the RET agenda.

@louismzobe3073 Месяц назад

Dr Phosa, you know very well what transpired with Mandela. Mandela was put in a corner. Mandela attended a meeting with NP in Grooteschuur and Victor Verster whereby he was given terms and conditions of his release. He was coerced to sign those minutes which entailed the setup of sa when anc takes power. That's how we got to gnu then. Same is happening now. Ramaphosa has made deals with the wcm (DA) and they've predetermined how SA will be governed. Tell the nation the truth. Or you all wanna take the truth to your graves. Where are the Grooteschuur and Victor Verster minutes?

@ErinCollective Месяц назад

You actually can fund social spending without foreign capital, it's called modern monetary theory, spending on infrastructure doesn't cause inflation so there's no need to fear "printing money" when it's deployed correctly.

@robertraine1953 Месяц назад

Most skills are learned in the workplace. But then the price must be right.

@olivialagrange6614 Месяц назад

The time of one party policies is over. My concern here is however, all who oppose the DA within a coalition or GNU seem to be scared that their patronage network is exposed. When light is shon on supply chains within government, we will likely be shocked at the amount of money funneled away, even within functioning supply chains

@liwadladloti Месяц назад

The chaos of the ANC and the DA is equivalent and can be seen in what was happening during the taxi strike in the Western Cape. Understand I'm referring to the chaos and not implying ANC had anything to do with the strike.

@ramalepemokibelo1143 Месяц назад

GNU is or will be good if all political parties have love of their country's citizens in their own hearts and not in them own lips, otherwise we have to forgive and forget.

@kambrose1549 Месяц назад

By their friends we shall know them as the saying goes. The choice of partners will make or break SA

@mosamakhubo2975 Месяц назад

Ntate Phosa thank you for your unbiased contribution. It can not be business as usual when 20mil poor people go to bed without food. We cant protect imperialism and colonialism that created the most the unequal country in the whole world! Investers should take our history into cognisance, unlike the DA that protect colonialism idiology!

@superbro7043 Месяц назад

Can u make the coulourd people a topic one of the days specially the khosan people being the aboriginal people of south africa

@fakierjessa6573 Месяц назад

for the ANC to succeed there MUST be no more corruption; IS THIS POSSIBLE given that corruption in the ANC is a norm to their fabric????

@coleenwiehahn7228 Месяц назад

Educate all our people and then they can work hard and advance themselves, we all have a hope and a future....... if our leaders stopped stealing there would be money for skill schools and institutions that will equip our nation to dream and become who God created them to be.

@mathapelomoagi2693 Месяц назад

Well said Mr Phosa, Yes it is indeed complicated. However GNU was foreseen by A.N.C

@johannesventer2658 Месяц назад

When someone fights for freedom as a political ploy...what he reallly wants is free stuff: business shares and ownership, cars, status, houses etc...

@lorrainenaidoo3017 Месяц назад

Dr M. Phosa is an Attorney

@ramalepemokibelo1143 Месяц назад

In terms of allocation of potfolios to different ministries is concerned, people who are appointed to these positions must have vast knowledge of what those positions entail. Africans are generally not peace loving people as a result of the fact that everyone is doing everything in their best interests not instead of the people who voted them to govern in their interests.

@WayneWhitfield-qt1fe Месяц назад

Thanks, Mike, for this content, and I totally agree with you Phosa is absolutely delusional is he really a dr? Still in a apartaid rubbish move on phosa.

@SolitudeMack Месяц назад

45:52 It's always interesting with these discussions, where examples of other countries' fantastic growth rates of 5% and above annually are lauded and touted. Yet nothing is ever said of the environmental impact of that. India today is grappling with safe breathable air, for an example...

@mzamosokhela8876 Месяц назад

"There is a lot of international capital waiting to flow in..." we have to entice foreign foreign investors..." that's our biggest problem. The reason why we don't have our own capital is because we allow the status quo to continue, I.e. we allow our minerals to benefit foreign countries. Let's change the status quo, we have the numbers. The DA / National Party has to toe the line or go to elsewhere.

@joecruiser Месяц назад

The SA steeling and braking are about to kick into overdrive.

@gbone7581 Месяц назад

Steal and breaking nie staal en briek nie!

@peterkgobe3407 Месяц назад

U can see apartheid in his face,if they want to go let them live, Africa for Africans

@biersingh3291 Месяц назад

He a doctor of what exactly

@sonofsoweto Месяц назад

I think he is a doctor like Dr Khumalo

@botumileseleke2712 Месяц назад

Correct your sentence construction first before you ask that question 😂😂😂😂

@lorrainenaidoo3017 Месяц назад

Dr M Phosa is an Attorney from Mpumalanga for many years.. I know him personally. His been a politition for many year's to fight for freedom

@StemereMaja-ug6pj Месяц назад

Your assignment is not the audience baby.

@leadlegacy1 Месяц назад

All of us are tax payers

@drbrucejmacmurray1834 Месяц назад

Shake my head. Time to wake up and look at REALITY. International investors will not invest in this mess.

@fionasibisi884 Месяц назад

AS ANC OPERATE AND RAMAPHOSA SPOKE ABOUT THUMA MINA , NOW WHO HAS SEND RAMAPHOSA, AND HIS FULFILLING THE MANDATE OF THUMA MINA, IF THE HEAD IS MULTIFUNCTIONING THE BODY WILL REPRESENT WHAT IS IN THE HEAD , ITS A ONE MAN SHOW

@ayakhasokabo8816 Месяц назад

😂Thuma Mina really hits hard now when you realize that Ramaphosa actually accomplished his duty.

@robertraine1953 Месяц назад

Economists never consider the value of main street. There is a lot you can do without the outside.

@ShawnRademeyer Месяц назад

So according to Phosa only the DA must compromise on policies when dealing with the ANC? Those same policies which hasn't worked for 30 years? Best for DA to then not be a part of something that give the ANC, EFF and MK cover and avoid accountability for the last 30 years.