Almost the exact same specs as my arrow build. 26” carbon to carbon Easton match grade 300 spine. Easton 55gr ti half out Qad exodus full blade 100 grain. 3 Aae hp vanes (max left helical) Aae Microlite knock Taw 430 Vxr 29 28” dl 65# dw Not sure on speed? Last time I checked it was 275-280ish? Such a good combo, don’t think I’ll ever change honestly. Thanks for sharing all this info for people who are learning.
Everyone's setup "needs" are different and what works for one may not work for another. A 425g arrow isn't the same for everyone and absolutely won't work for some, same goes for a 600g arrow setup. I go by shooting the heaviest setup possible within an acceptable/preferred trajectory. It takes a lot of the guesswork out of a setup and balances both needs and preferences. Shoot what works, until it doesn't, then make adjustments. Experience is always going to be our best teacher. Sounds like you have thought and confidence in your setup, that's the best we can all ask of one another. I always appreciate hearing about another hunter's setup and best of luck this season!
@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial interesting. Ive worried about this as well but been using em for several years and shot thru elk, whitetail, muleys and antelope. What has happened that you've encountered with the durability, breakage, splintering,etc?
@@C.Adams82mainly just durability after shooting into or through deer. There were several shots in which arrows were snapping in two after shooting through a deer or hitting bone. The individual that had these issues were shooting Easton axis prior to that.
My opinion, at 27"draw and arrows cut at 26" I believe a standard long range will be just as straight as a match grade. Think it's only a must with a longer drawlength and shaft. The match grade components do seem to be a big upgrade from the original. I'm a 29" draw and usually cut 4" off my shafts and usually all the .003 will be glass like my .001 shafts.
Blew completely thru a bull at 38 yards. Double lung. 412 grains at 274 fps. Magnus black Hornet serrated. Of course deer barely slow this setup down. At 62#’s 28” draw.
Sweet, thanks for the info. That sounds like a killer setup and proves that it’s not always necessary to shoot 70+ lbs and a heavy arrow setup to kill big animals.
Light is faster and I’ll give you a pass through I’m shooting 480 @ 28 draw length 72 lbs 300 spine arrow that thing is perfect think your arrow is a good set up 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 and plus we are shooting from 50-90 yards here AZ
My setup and I get great groups and penetration when shooting an elk/deer/hog etc. Lift33…. 31.5”/72#/85% Arrow Sirius Gemini 300 (.0015) 29 1/4” carbon to carbon 50 grain Podium Titanium half out/100 & 125 grain SEVR 1.75/Onestringer 4” wrap/3 fletched left helical with Silent Knight vanes. 445 grain/304 fps 470 grain/297 fps No problems with either setup The 470’s tune a little better and I think 285-295 fps is my sweet spot! I do use the SEVR 1.5 on elk and will use the Hybrid this year. SEVR 1.75 received the highest review numbers ever produced by a Lusk review.
Interesting finding on the aluminum vs titanium outserts. I’ve had the same experiences but never really thought about it. It’s probably a lot more cost efficient to replace outserts over an entire shaft. I’m wondering how it affects the straightness of the shaft after you bend the aluminum outsert and replace it.
From what I have seen, it has not changed the straightness of the shaft. Once I change the component, the arrow spins completely straight on the arrow spinner.
That could be an option. I just don’t feel like blue loctite would do as well with the constant vibration of shooting over and over with the arrows in the quiver. That is not from testing however, so it may work just as good or better.
There is no accurate or truthful data that proves you need over a 480gr arrow for anything in N.A. There is a lot of data that proves maximizing a combination speed and arrow weight to gain optimal KE is a better approach coupled with a well tuned bow and sharp broadheads, see Joel Maxfield and Eric Newmans work. Long draw guys (30"+) may end up over 500gr just because of spine and GPI of arrows, but are not sacrificing the importance of a good speed/weight combination. Broadhead sharpness, bow tune, and a lot of practice outweigh the need for a heavy arrow.
The point is not whether you need a heavy arrow for anything in North America. The point is that to penetrate bone, CONSISTENTLY you need a heavier set up. Not the weight but much rather the FOC helps the most. You can pass through most animals with 400gns or even less. But this set up has a higher failure rate when penettrating bone consistently. Perfect arrow flight, single bevel broadheads, and high FOC 19%+ tend to have a much higher rate of successful pass throughs even when impacting heavier bone. This is all about decreasing failure rate when impacting bone. Arguing that a lighter set up can pass through bone with the same level of success as a heavier, high FOC setup is just factually untrue and silly. Mentally of having it and not needing it, rather than needing it and not having it.
I know that heavier arrows have an advantage when hitting a heavy bone. However, a shoulder blade doesn’t stop a 420 grain arrow at 290 fps. Vertical accuracy is better with a a faster arrow when an animal take a couple steps and sense I don’t aim at heavy bones and animals move often I think it’s a fair trade off to have better vertical accuracy vs maybe being able to penetrate an an elks heavy leg bone. Also I believe an elk has higher chance of survival if it in a leg bone than with a heavy arrow.
The reality is this, you can build two arrows of differing weights, give them the same KE and different momentums, and they will penetrate the same. Take two more arrows, give them the same momentum and differing KEs, and the one with the higher KE will out penetrate the other. Speed matters, and is absolutely relevant in penetration. But so is shot placement and sharp broadheads, and a well tuned bow. I do like some FOC, 14% is usually what I find good, but there are also tests out there that disprove its importance with compound bows and penetration. If we were shooting stick bows, at dead animals, that barely broke 200fps, a heavier arrow would be important, because we would be entirely depending on weight for KE. But with modern compounds, I can usually get a 460gr arrow cruising at 290fps, and that is the best of both worlds with a sharp broadhead, and the bow tuned well.
I don’t shoot Easton I shoot victory I’ve shot rip sports and I now shoot vap tko and I can tell a difference at 30 plus and at 20 I can tell but I’m touching arrows with tkos with 3 shot and with 3 shot of the rips I’m a golf ball size group but it’s also not tuned to the rips
My arrows are only 25” long. I could actually go down to a 400 with an arrow that short. Also Mathews recommends shooting the less stiff spine if you are right on the line between arrows spines.
That is a great assumption. However, If you watch my videos, you will know that I did not spend 3k on my setup. And I said in the video I recommended spending your money on making your bow setup more accurate, and less money on trying to make your arrows shoot through a brick wall. I never said anything about buying a cheap setup. Thanks for watching though.
