Hey everyone, just confirming GWM has updated the torque figure for the Tank 300 Hybrid. It's now 648Nm - this update supersedes the figure we used in our video.
From Montréal, Canada here. I love this channel. Your review format is great, useful, entertaining and thorough. It's also fun to me because there are many similarities, but also differences between our car markets, so it's nice to compare. I especially love these reviews of vehicles we don't get, like these ones from Chinese brands. Keep it up!
@@mvnorsel6354 true! And here a very base model Corolla (as an example) comes standard with heated seats, and more and more even heated steering wheel.
As a Chinese, I dare say that the GWM tank 300 and tank 500 are wonderful. Because of these new products of GWM, similar products that used to be best-selling Japanese brands have been forced to cut prices sharply but still have poor sales.
Test drove this car today and it performed excellently. No problems at all, and the speed was impressive. I disabled all the extra safety features, naturally. While it's easy to find flaws in anything, I suggest taking it for a test drive if you're interested. It's best to experience it for yourself rather than just taking someone else's word. Also the parking features blew my mind - very cool!
Hey mate, i was waiting for the gwm alpha to drop in June with the twin turbo v6 petrol but from all accounts that matter, we are pnly get the 2.4L diesel and this 2L phev. How long does the electric motor stay active for under full throttle? Trying to get info is like drawing blood from a stone. I might have to test drive the phev tank and judge based off the weight difference.
Some of us don't have the ability to test drive and that's why we watch videos to gain insight. Why would you watch this video then test drive it again?
@@FuckTheSystem1987 Varies mate - 20-30km ... but depends how much gas u give it - but downhill - its 100% EV - so good. 30km trip downhill all EV - plus you dont need to brake due to the reg braking.
@@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 I test drove the HEV and petrol 2x each - had the petrol on for a weekend drove 300km - as second guessed my HEV purchase. HEV is better so kept it.
Hey mate, Thanks for the review. I am now the proud owner of a Lux Hybrid. I ordered a red one back in April, by the time it got to me it had turned grey. I have also test driven the Ultra petrol model, so have a few points that may be of interest to you and your subscribers. AWD + 4L vs. 2H + 4H + 4L It was not until I picked my hybrid up that I found out that the traditional 2H (rear wheels) + 4H (presumably without a front/rear diff) for offroad only + 4L selection was, in fact, only 2 options of AWD + 4L. Something that could be elaborated upon. Still working out how the hybrid drive works in AWD mode. I find that when sitting at a stop with the engine running and then punch it to get across a lane of traffic, it responds with the speed of the base model. On the other hand, if the engine stops while waiting and I floor it, the electric kicks in instantly and I'm propelled through the intersection with no lag. Flooring the petrol only model gives you a decent half-second of lag between flooring and response. Often, when softly accelerating from a stop, like in traffic, the display shows only the rear wheels being driven by the electric motor. So maybe the electric motor is only coupled to the rear axel?? No Michelin tyres on the Lux Hybrid. Previous reviews have specifically mentioned the fact that they came with Michelins from factory, which is odd for a Chinese made car. Well, mine came with Hankook tyres, but your Ultra Hydrid has Michelins?? Odd. Thanks! Anthony
@@7ish4m The body roll is quite noticeable, even at speeds around 70km/h, and there is an appreciable lag in acceleration when flooring it (as the computer figures out what to do with the Petrol and Electric motors). Cheers
Some good insight from your ownership viewpoint - thanks . Ive test driven x 2 hybrids - and love the things overall Power is really great - especially in sport . they may have some lag at times , but mostly i found the power effortless in most condition s Im picking up a new Lux this week 😊
Everyone complaining about the payload here’s a simple solution.Don’t buy this car if you want to tow and carry the family.This suits people not towing and a bit of fun 4 wheel driving here and there .
@yanjiangli-lq9pg doubt it. The cannon alha was supposed to get the tt v6, not approved for Australian market. Climate change greenies are killing this country.
Do hybrids like this ever give you full power from both engines? Do you ever actually get 260kw and 615Nm or do the electronics manage the combo of engines so that there is a broader (but lower) torque curve? Say max combined torque of 450Nm but spread across a wide rev range as a varying combo of petrol/electric? Would be interesting to get a hybrid like this on the dyno vs the non hybrid with the same petrol engine.
I get that they use both, but do you get the max output of both engines at the same time? I drive a Tuscon hybrid for work. Came out of a Mondeo. Both 6spd, similar weight, power should technically favour the Tuscon (170 vs 150kw) and torque is lineball. However, other than off the line, seat of the pants would hand the Mondeo any performance award. Once off the line the Tuscon feels allot more like it's 130kw/ 265 than 170/350. It isn't slow exactly, but I was surprised that it does not feel like the headline numbers.
I believe this version is for the performance not for saving fuel. When you driving a v8, you want the performance not saving fuel right? Latest technology gives you that but not cost you an arm and leg.
My standard tank is awesome, orange and I love the colour. I hope people test drive one because they are amazing value and quality. Less talk more action
@@paddypath9548 This car has been sold in China for several years, the biggest criticism of the owner is the fuel consumption of 13/100km, but as an off-road vehicle, considering his power and price, this car is already very friendly in the same class, you can't want an off-road vehicle and at the same time want him to have the fuel consumption of a sedan, this is unfair, in general in China this car has a very good reputation, of course you can choose a more expensive car with a better experience
I personally think the rear suspension can be firmer and may resolve some of the corning and breaking issues - most Aus suspension tuning are like that.
Given the Tank doesn't have a massive fuel payload like a Prado, I was hoping they'd use the hybrid to give it economy ajnd cruising range. Ideally I was hoping it could get a 1000+km range like the H6 hybrid. I'm not sure what I'd do with the power and torque if it's not fit to tow or has a small 350kg payload. No need to race it and GWM suspension is all too soft on most of their cars.
I just looked at the ANCAP website, specifically the GWM Tank, how is it possible for a car to obtain a ANCAP 5 Star rating when it is unable to retain all 4 tyres on the ground during heavy breaking. For me that just does not pass the pub test.
ANCAP doesn't do brake testing. They test how the vehicle protects occupants, vunrable road users, and how the safety assist systems function. Same as EuroNCAP and the NHTSA/IIHS (except they don't have any pedestrian testing).
Im with you , I would go the non hybrid and do a mild tune. Plenty of power for offroad. The hybris also has more weight and the battery only charging when breaking is a deal breaker. I would rather tune a 4 cyl and have consistent power. Great video
None of these reviews takes a look at actual city, start and stop driving with the hybrid - where it should offer an advantage. It seems that it would deliver much lower operating costs. You don't want a hybrid just for highway or off-road driving.
IN THAILAND I HAVE A TANK 500 HEV, THE BIG BROTHER OF THE 300. IT IS AN EXCELLENT CAR: BIG, HEAVY AND VERY COMFORTABLE WITH BAGS OF POWER BUT QUIET AND PEACEFUL. I GET 30-45 MILES PER ENGLISH GALLON DEPENDENT ON HOW I DRIVE. LET IT ROLL GENTLY, 90-100K AND IT'S LIKE A LOUNGE ON WHEELS. I'VE HAD MANY, MANY CARS OVER 60 YEARS AND THIS IS THE BEST - LOVE IT..
@@OlyMar83 as such big power petro hybrid car, 12.5L is very good. I had Prado 2.8 diesel and lc200 4.5 diesel, they very thirsty like 12L and 15L per 100km
likely not with the big heavy battery in the boot. lol. I respect the Tank, it fills a lot of the gaps left by the overpriced Wrangler and barebones Jimmy, but the breaks are just awful and the Hybrid isnt worth the price increase imho.
I have the Petrol Turbo Ultra with 2 inch lift and aggressive AT tyres. Taken it through Bunyip in the wet and it's an absolute weapon. Created a stir with the other users on the tracks...mainly Patrols and Cruisers. Not that they wanted it as they are brand loyal, but definite respect. They were all very impressed watching what it could do and were coming up asking lots of questions.
It seems like a really good car for the price but like all these new cars from these newer brands I think people like myself would feel a lot more comfortable purchasing them if they had guaranteed buy back prices. I’m just worried that in 3 years time it could be worth bugger all and you’d be never be able to trade it in or sell it for a reasonable price. Great review as always Paul. Cheers Pat
There’s no resale value on Chinese vehicles you just gotta accept what you can get, most dealer won’t accept them as trades either. Buying cheap always ends up more expensive
@@ev0wat yea true same here in india .. tons of chinese motorcycle brand but non buyers ...car brand like byd ..aand mg they have sales here but no resale value ...folks would buy fortuner over mg gloster
@@wcrash9361how’s the rust going? There’s RU-vid videos showing all these new Chinese vehicles are rusted under the doors etc from brand new. A guy had a minor accident in one and had to removed the door, upon doing that he was angry the amount of rust he uncovered 😂😂 look it up online “Chinese cars prematurely rust” so before you act all cocky with your resale go and do your research and find out why nobody wants Chinese vehicles only dorks like you who think they’re clever saving money, you actually lose more on the back end
@@ev0wat You serious with that shit logic ? "Chinese cars rust".. you kidding ? Literally google Toyota Hilux rust then come back here. All 4x4's rust.. Show me 10 pages of Chinese rust and I'll show you 10 pages of Japanese cars rusting.
@yanjiangli-lq9pg whats the 330... is it still a petrol/ hybrid/ phev.. or is it a diesel hybrid/ phev or is it hydrogen/ hybrid/phev or is it full electric .... I can't find anything on the 330 🤣
tank330 will be launched in China in 2024. The current news is that it will be equipped with a 3.0TT gasoline engine and there will also be a tank300 PHEV version.@@thatdudethatsezshiz7706
@@thatdudethatsezshiz7706330 is the v6 edition of tank 300，it's being tested in china now， not sure it would be taken to Australia，but we have no 300 phev in china，that's weird🤣
In the two different demo's I drove both had a massive problem with them when accelerating away from a stop while turning (for example turning right at an intersection) and they took off under electric power but halfway through the turn they engaged the petrol engine with a huge shunt that violently surged through the vehicle. It's as though the electric engine was spinning the drivetrain at the equivalent petrol engine speed of about 3000 rpm and then suddenly decided it didn't have enough grunt to continue and tried to engage the petrol engine from 0 to 3000 rpm instantly. Certainly not smooth and could reproduce it on both cars, multiple times.
Hi Paul, can you please do a full review of the new Jimny xl and if possible do some comparison video on off-road capability with Tank 300 or ScorpioN which are very closely priced SUVs in the market? Thanks in advance, Big fan of yours!!
Hello Paul, I'm sorry to bother you. Well, I'm going to buy a new car, but the two models I'm looking at are Ford Ranger Wildtrak 2024 and GWM Tank300 Ultra. Which car do you think is good? Which one do you like?
This is why hybrids are stupid. They are only good and more economical while the battery has charge in it. Once its depleted, which is usually very quickly you are just lugging around extra weight and burning more fuel than a non hybrid. All sales gimmicks that too many people fall for. If your potterring around town just driving very short distances then yes a hybrid makes sense for sure, but most people drive further than the battety last which means worse fuel economy. Yes I no they self charge to a small degree from regen breaking, etc, but it still doesnt top up the battery. I will stick my diesel prado. The power and economy doesnt suddenly change after a few k's of driving.
1:47. When I saw the warped plastic bumper, I stopped watching any further. Security and durability are two big things for me in a car. That's why I still have some reservations about Chinese cars.
seriously considering buying one of these in Mexico currently. such an amazing car that meets my needs at a better cost with a significantly better interior and features than any other options
YOU DID NOT ALLOW THE BATTERY TO BE FULL. WITH THE ICE AND THE BATTERY SYNERGY THE VEHICLE TAKES OFF. IT DOES IN MY TANK 500 THAT IS MUCH THE SAME AS THE 300.
BYD's latest model, the Leopard 5, will be the best choice, with stronger power, stronger off-road capabilities, more fuel-efficient, and more luxurious interiors.
I’d rather buy the base model and increase the power out put, and keep the weight low, kinda useless model imo being a hybrid and not being able to save petrol
Can you load up a Tank with 5 passengers, perhaps some luggage for a day trip and run it on the scales? It can't legally carry what it is designed to hold with it's piddly payload rating of 397-420kg. 5 average adults would put it on the limit. You'd think this would be a pretty important piece of information to bring up as many families not knowing any better will just load it up and be overweight.
Yeah, because all adults weigh the same hey? haha. It has to be on th ebuyer to do their own research, everyone wants others to give them all the answers.
Looked at a brand new one at a 4wd show and the leather was all cracked and the salesmen said 'oh you get that sometimes with genuine leather'. What?! after 0 kms?
Looks OK.. but offroad credentials?? How many cross country competitions , Dakar championships does it wins..? I hardly recall any from Chinese brands..
There is currently no hybrid version of the Tank 300 released in China, so the United States and Europe have to experience the Tank 300hev earlier than China.
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