I own this car (the 2023 version, which looks identical except some minor differences) and I am very happy with it. It is basically gimmick free, and everything just works well. The build quality is amazing and it feels much nicer than other cars in this segment. The back doors opening wide is super useful, something I didn't even consider as relevant.
Pathetic towing capacity... The engine which works well in the Civic is simply not powerful enough for the CRV.. Headroom in the rear isn't acceptable.. And far too expensive in Europe... We need a 30,000€ version like the US market .
The price is crazy for a car in this segment. Somehow, in my country, it costs the same as a much more premium Mazda CX60 with a straight 6 3.3 litre diesel and the same as a larger Hyundai Palisade. It costs 25% more than the equivalent Tiguan, Sportage etc. It can't be justified.
@@izoyt hopefully there isn’t an over-abundance of critical parts assembled with plastic, which unfortunately has become a German standard with some companies (I’m looking at you Volkswagen Group).
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Lol I have the 2002 version and I will never have the most recent one but I’m still watching and happy, being alive and healthy is the biggest gif I can have 😊😉
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Idk if it's as bad elsewhere in Europe but a major problem with Honda is their pricing. Toyota has rather expensive starting prices for their cars here in Finland, but Honda is way worse. HR-V starts at 37,000€. No wonder they only sold 200 cars last year to Toyota's 14 thousand (or Nissans 2,6 thousand). Honda makes good cars but they are way too expensive for what they are right now, I remember seeing Civics everywhere in the early 2000's, now I don't see any new Hondas which is no wonder since they sell even less than Subaru and Lexus.
Somehow, in my country, it costs the same as a much more premium Mazda CX60 with a straight 6 3.3 litre diesel and the same as a larger Hyundai Palisade. It costs 25% more than the equivalent Tiguan, Sportage etc. It can't be justified. Hondas used to be all over the roads but these days I barely see one. Their pricing strategy is out of control. They're pricing like they're a premium car maker but they're not and neither are their engines and drive trains. I don't get it.
@@SDav21Their pricing is justifiable because Honda is way more reliable than BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc.... the CR-V is the 3rd best selling SUV in the world behind only to RAV4 and Tesla Model Y. In the USA and Canada, Honda is everywhere.
@@CeejaaySnow Their pricing is maybe justifiable in the US and Canada where it isn't 30% more than a Rav4 or Mazda CX5 both of which are equally, if not more, reliable. You can't compare the CRV to a Mercedes, BMW or Audi. It isn't close to that level in terms of drivetrains, suspension components or technology. And it most certainly isn't justifiable being the same price as a much more premium Mazda CX60 with a straight 6 diesel and it is much smaller than a Hyundai Palisade and Kia Telluride. For the rest of the world, the Honda is over priced. It's price is therefore not justified and that's why Honda is fading into irrelevance everywhere else in the world. Their cars are not competitive enough to warrant an extra 30% more than it's direct competitors from Toyota, Mazda, VW, Hyundai and Kia.
It really looks and feels great this new CRV but looking at the package as a whole (at least in my country) it should be priced at least 10k Euros below the current price when compared to Korean/Japanese and German competitors. For 54k eu what is a starting price here you can buy either diesel or PHEV Mazda CX60, or even a Volvo XC60 which are in my humble opinion a class above. Not to mention Tucson, Sportage, Tiguan, Kuga, CX5, Forester... SUVs from Stelantis group are maybe only worse priced cars in the segment. But this is not the worst priced Honda in my country. Idiotic ZRV is only 5k cheaper than the CRV with a pathetic boot that is smaller than in a Dacia Sandero and only FWD. Honda is really not trying to do any good in Europe obviously, and they are looking to have a large profit on a every single car they sell, and not going for mass sales results.
I test drive Volvo XC60. i dont know what country you talking about but when i asked offers for CRV and XC60, then XC60 with same trim level or packages costed about 7k EUR more. XC60 over 60k. Test drive Tiguan and Sportage also. Tiguan premium is only quieter noise high speeds but the cockpit display is horrible how its in your face too close. Also all the stuff is adjustable from new touchscreen. This is why this review was spot on. When i test drive i dont want to start meddling with center screen to find crucial settings for heats, cools and such. XC60 was even worse they have everything now in one big tablet screen adjustable. Honda is doing great in Europe, because Kia doesnt sell well and they are doing aggressive discounts. Sportage has nice up to date screens but car itself is not even close to CRV level. Mazda hybrid engine is bad. Seen many engineer video reviews about it and they warn about the design of that engine. Its jerky to ride or lags when you want to speed up. It has to switch between electric and combustion engine and it causes horrible delays.
@@supremeboy if similarly speced XC60 costs just 7k more than CRV, in my opinion it just shows that Honda is overpriced. I also hate the infotainment in Volvo and generally buttons layout in Volvo is really not my cup of tea. Volvo is just a nicer car, stariting from seats, interior quality, ride comfort (although it leans a bit in the bends), smooth drive etc. Diesel engines in Volvo are only a bit to noisy. I tested Mazda CX60 hybrid but it really was a short ride, i spent more time in 3.3 diesel and that thing is briliant. I heard a lot of criticism on the ride quality and jerky ride but did not notice it to be honest. Do not get me wrong I love Hondas, owned 2 of them, still have one in family, but they are just overpriced for what they offer nowdays.
In my country, final price in PHEV...74K€ just unacceptable, too much noisy, nothing special inside, seats are not the best....for 13k€ LESS I choose the CX60 254hp inline 6..after 3000km the fuel consumption is around 5,5L/100. I really not regret my choice
Rav4 plugin with 4wd starts 57k€ in Finland. I negotiated medium trim to 60k€ so that is what I got. I put 1.5k€ to rust protection and sound insulation.
Somehow, in my country, it costs the same as a much more premium Mazda CX60 with a straight 6 3.3 litre diesel and the same as a larger Hyundai Palisade. It costs 25% more than the equivalent Tiguan, Sportage etc. It can't be justified. The CX60 is a much better choice.
The resale value is extremely good. In the US, you got used CRV selling at the same price as Porsche macan (from the same year). When their new car price for macan is about 2x of that CRV
I don't understand how is it that cars are so much more expensive nowdays in Europe. And it's not just Japanse brands, VW is much cheaper in China than in Europe. It's like someone is robbing us. Also European brands are cheaper in US.
It's a Honda's strategy in EU, make a profit not by quantity but by margin. Their main markets are USA and China, EU market is not interested for them, unfortunately
@@paulo_pastore I'm not sure what it is but compared to NA market many brands including some European ones have higher prices in Europe. In last half a decade prices in Europe skyrocketed while in last decade or so they became noticeably higher than on NA market.
As a total outsider, I would guess that the EU market has the highest amount of accountability and maybe liability/exposure. I’m referring directly to environmental, safety and social exposures companies face when engaging the EU market. Which is good but it is not free. Big stories of Microsoft, Apple and Google are well known but this also applies to everything else. In other words, it costs more to sell a product in the EU so it is more. No doubt it is more complicated but we’re not going to peal back those layers in a comments section.
20% VAT (import turnover tax), 10% motor tax and 1000-2000 shipment cost per car, more expensive employees in dealers etc. leads to elevated prices. VW car produced in chinese factory is still imported car for EU legislation.
I own previous gen crv. Not the most beautiful, but very reliable car that holds stress test of Ukrainian roads well. This new gen looks like perfect iteration as it adds everything i miss in the current one, though the price is a bit ridiculous now. I will consider new Tiguan packed with options or Kodiaq instead. Love this channel BTW
Very nice, practical and unoffensive interior and exterior, no wonder the car is popular. Wish Honda offered Accord with the same tech and design in Europe.
Did the engineer from Mercedes move to Japan and too his fake exhaust with him? As pedestrian as the CR-V is, it has one of the best panoramic sunroofs on the market. Because it open internally, it can open fully and flush with no overlap. There's no need for carmakers to include built-in USB A ports at this point. If anyone still has those legacy electronics, its a simple fix to order an adapter for a few bucks. Too bad the door bins are not lined, meaning anything you put in them will be rattling around as you drive.
Because culture in Asia is different than Europe. In Japan, car enthusiast like to hear the sound of the vehicle as it brings better driving engagement.
Yeah the German offerings (Tiguan) are very lacking here in the US. Not sure about Honda quality anymore. Have a 2018 Honda Fit and it has been the worse car I ever had. I don't plan on buying a Honda ever again.
It’s a nice car but too overpriced. For the same cost as the entry level bare-bones version here in Sweden, you could get a certified preowned facelift 4th gen Lexus RX 450h that’s fully loaded (incl. Carplay/android auto), comes with winter tyres, and that has 6-8 years of extended warranty left. Sure the used Lexus might have run for 50000-100000 kms, but considering that the extended warranty covers up to 200000 km and that the old Lexus/Toyota V6 easily runs for 400000 km, it’s not a big concern. In the Nordic market the CR-V is simply a poor value proposition, which is a pity as it’s a much nicer looking car compared to the RAV4.
Animal leather? What about the poor plants that sacrificed their lives for fabric? What about the oil plants that create the plastic fibers? How about we all become reasonable again and understand it takes stuff to make new stuff. If you don’t like it then become Amish.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S1aNZeoatmE.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1pRNkW9nrrw.html And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6vXePQi_MAk.html New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u94YXJ72UTA.html More and more natural materials are rising: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nRSsXEnwHDo.html Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nP_CvLlaFlI.html For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tkjCAmq1_8E.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--8gNXlRGngA.html
@@autogefuehl Whoa there. I’m all for more sustainable materials and enjoyed videos at the micro fiber plant for car interiors. I can see how I came across and it wasn’t meant to challenge your thinking. I’m just grumbling that one day will we get down to a point nobody dares to make anything anymore? /s If it isn’t one thing to ban or will be the next and the next. I’m for progress and to not kill our planet and not to cause people and animals to suffer. There should be room for discussion and not assume the other is against the ideology you subscribe to. I also am a subscriber but we need to relax and laugh stuff off. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding and look forward to your next videos.
Cheers! Also just wanted to give information. I used to think differently before I researched this topic. Customers are left in the dark by the companies, thats why we want to inform. You re always welcome here!
These are amazing machines and competing quite well with perennial Top Dog Toyota Rav4 the latter of which continues to make a big push into hybrid with the Rav4 Prime. Honda CRV materially larger i think is the big difference between the two. Tesla Model Y still making a lot of noise in this hugely profitable vehicle segment both in upon North America and globally. "Self driving"(hands free) is still what sets Tesla apart from Toyota and Honda and is a game changer for the actual driving experience and for safety same said. Legacy pure play ICE Honda and Toyota will continue to need to "run to stand still" to keep pace with Tesla the Insurgent as a consequence. Winner i agree: actual buyers. Great time if there be the respurces to buy this vehicle and like types.
Spec and Data: Honda CR-V Engines 1,5 Turbo 190 hp (USA) 2,0 NA Hybrid 184 hp (e:HEV) Both FWD (9,0 sec) or AWD (front plus rear on demand, 9,5 sec acceleration) 2,0 NA PHEV (Europe) FWD (e:PHEV) 17,7 kWh gross (net?) Max. 6,8 kW AC charging 9,4 sec 4,71 m 185“ +8cm or 3“ longer than predecessor Slightly wider tracks and increased wheelbase 18” standard opt 19“ wheels Frequency adaptive dampers standard 10,2“ digital instruments 7” or 9” screen (standard Germany) Black or grey cloth Optional animal/leatherette mix (standard Germany) Rear seats a little more legroom Max 39 - 77 cf 590 l HEV - 1630 l 620 l PHEV - 1710 l Towing 750 kg inbuilt hybrid 1,5 t PHEV Entry price Germany 49.000 Euro (HEV) 60.000 (PHEV including adaptive dampers) Entry price US 30.000 USD Competitors: Toyota RAV4 Hyundai Tucson VW Tiguan
Hello Thomas. Very good review. Was the noise on the highway just from the wind or also from the tires? Does it have good insulation in general?Does it has laminated windshield or thicker windows?
Thomas , I specially liked your reaction when you did the acceleration test 😂. When you said " interesting " , i knew you wanted to say , just like me , its a shit sound that CVT 😂
Re comment because can’t find first one…. Why doesn’t the North American 2024 have the push button gear selector, or is it an option. I test drove a hybrid touring and it was a normal shifter😢
I would not because Tiguan All Space is better and Tiguan even at 200kmh speed is silent, passengers won’t even notice how fast car is going unless they see it. This one is noisy at 130kmh 😂. If you want save money buy Toyota Yaris better.
@@NaviNavi-1uu8tg Refinement levels are high in this CRV. Smooth and seamless I-MMD hybrid system. Tiguan has VW engineering. Poor quality designed to fail. Cheap touch capacitive controls on the dashboard. No thanks.
@@jdmguy44 VW is quieter but everything else is horrible there. I test drive a lot compact SUV's recently including CRV, Tiguan, Kodiaq, Sportage, XC60. I dont understand how people like or can even drive new VW cars with in your face drive dashboards. Its just one big straight forward dash and so close to your face. It looks like a plane or electric car in inside. Kodiaq is same as its VW group. Sportage looks better inside but horrible build quality and ride comfort. There wasnt better choice than CRV. Unless you do highway drive every day and Live in Germany. Mixed drive i would say wind noise is ok for CRV, other cars are same. XC60 mby is bit premium but it costs way more with same extras as CRV. IF somone want to drive compact SUV over 120km/h often they should look Lexus or XC60 and pay premium. I dont think its worth thats my feedback.
But from what I read the proposals do not include radio volume and climate controls. Apart from Tesla most cars have buttons / stalks for indicators and buttons for the SOS system. It is a cop out really.@@autogefuehl
its refreshing to have a Japanese car's appearance that is balanced, elegant, and even dynamic. Usually they look like sci-fi cartoon freaks. Not this one.
I have had a new Advance Tech Plug in Hybrid. Charge overnight on a domestic plug on cheaper electricity. Most of my journeys are now done on electric. Comfortable, quiet, practicable, Bose Stereo is very good. Wireless Apple car is also very good.
nah, I don't believe what you say about consumption. It's clear ti me that you are treating each car like a sports car. You left it in sport, you constantly accelerates, you did 0-100, which is the stupidest test all reviewers do. People that buy this car don't care about 0-100 and driving in sport. You can easily get under 6/100 in the city (!) which no german SUV of this size can match.
The acceleration part is the most watched part in every driving part, analytics dont lie, people want to see this with priority in every review no matter for which car - thus we show what the viewers want to see. I agree that the acceleration is not the most important thing with a family car, thats why we stress the space and flexibility of these vehicles in the static interior part. For the consumption figure we take out the acceleration part and zero the consumption meter in most times, unless we drive a very very long way where it can be included without being a huge bias. We did the same here. The consumption figure we showed is a realistic one and I had a similar result with the previous version. A German SUV can match this figure or can be better with a Diesel. Even better is the Toyota Hybrid system, and my point was that the Honda Hybrid system is rather complicated but at the same time it doesnt deliver more than a traditinal hybrid system like Toyota is using, rather less. If you are happy with your CRV hybrid, great, not saying the car is bad, I love it for the space concept and the user interface, my point was just that at the grade of complexity of this hybrid system, the result is not worth the effort.
Same in South Africa. It costs the same as a Mazda CX60 with a 3.3 litre straight 6 diesel and about 25 to 30% more than the equivalent Tiguan, Sportage, Tucson etc. Even worse is that it is literally double the price of the excellent vehicles from China like Chery and Haval both of which have hybrids that have way more power and torque than this Honda.
Somehow, in my country, it costs the same as a much more premium Mazda CX60 with a straight 6 3.3 litre diesel and the same as a larger Hyundai Palisade. It costs 25% more than the equivalent Tiguan, Sportage etc. It can't be justified.
@@SDav21My thougth exactly. For that price you can get Mazda CX60 3.3 diesel full specs or Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2 also full spec. It's a great car but it's at least 10k more than it should be
I love Honda and own a CRV 5. I was interested to buy it.... But the price increase here in France is just insane between CRV 5 and 6... I'm going to switch on Tesla. Sorry Honda...
I went from a civic si to an American hybrid touring. I have never been in a Tesla, but the new CRv is a very very nice vehicle. Right now I am doing 5.5 per 100 km.
@@bryb2644 oh yes the CRV is really nice. Mine (CRV 5) is very confy, spacious and i'm around 5.5 per 100km like you (hybrid), love it. The New one is great but here in France the entry level Price was 42 000 euros for crv5 now for the New one : 55 000 euros ! 🤯 So yeah i go for Tesla Y.
@@bryb2644yes i see US price (way more cheaper...no brainer in US) and i don't understand why Honda France Priced this model this expensive here... My CRV 5 was 42 000€
@@jeremjeremmaybe it’s the fact that there are no Honda manufacturing in Europe. But they say the cars built in Japan are superior to the American cars.
it's embarrassing how cars 2-5x the price of this don't even have half the features, i noticed after 2019 the german auto makers became really cheap and started taking features out, you spend 150k on an AMG or M car and it doesn't even come with a heated steering wheel anymore or comes with stupid "touch buttons" that are cheap in general, it's a joke
Good morning, I have a difficult question, I am from Guatemala and we have a doubt which is the best car to buy. My questions is between Honda CRV EXL 1.5 turbo with all wheel drive vr Audi Q3 1.4 turbo front traction with comfort equipment. If you can tell me witch is your recommendation I will appreciate, thanks in advance
This setup is called a parallel hybrid. This is basically how a Prius works. It is actually pretty economical to run. They’re really catching on in India. The economy on highway speeds here (100-120 kph) is around 20 kmpl. These cars are a great stop gap for us in developing nations that cannot quite afford a full blown electric car.
I believe Honda and Toyota use different systems. Toyota has a power split transmission that can divert any ratio of power between the wheels and the motor-generator. Honda has the engine connected to a generator, with an optional clutch that can connect it to the wheels around 90 kph. This means that a Prius can have the engine connected to the wheels more often, while Honda could have more torque.
Another great review Thomas. Thank you. I have noticed that many vehicles ,when sold in Europe, have much more electrification than in North America. The CR-V PHEV is not available in North America. VW is worse...no HEV or PHEV models at all in North America. Any idea why that is?
i am owner of 2002 honda crv just this year sold it and got again crv 2014 very practical efficient easy drive , cheaper spare parts than german models like tiguan
How can you permanently disable the sound of the traffic sign detection beep when you exceed the speed limit? Also, how can I enable the auto lock when I walk away without manually locking the car using the door handle or fob?
I am thinking about selling my 2017 CR-V which surprisingly has an excellent re-sale price, I have received a couple of offers above $20K, for a 7 year old car.
I have the previous CR-V 1.5 193 AWD CVT, done 90+k km with it, including many long rides of 1500 km. It is very good car, fun and enjoyable to drive. This new model for me looks more like refinement, incremental improvement in many aspects. Unfortunately I do not think I will be buying it anytime soon due to the pricing. Recently I asked my local dealer here in NL how much it would cost to trade-in my current CR-V with the new model... the difference is like 25k EUR or more for HEV. For 5-10k EUR less I think I could get maybe Mazda CX60 PHEV, or Toyota RAV4, even the new Tiguan would be significantly cheaper. We will see though in 2-3 years, the pricing could be corrected, hopefully.
Somehow, in my country, it costs the same as a much more premium Mazda CX60 with a straight 6 3.3 litre diesel and the same as a larger Hyundai Palisade. It costs 25% more than the equivalent Tiguan, Sportage etc. It can't be justified.
Oh yaa! Everyone wants 189 HP at a price of 50K . At this price, or less, you can buy a Rav4, 219 HP. Hold on guys, don’t buy every Honda!! Please! Leave us at least one!!
This car isn't selling well at all in my country. It costs 25% more than an equivalent Tiguan yet isn't any better. It costs the same as much larger cars like the Hyundai Palisade and way more premium Mazda CX60 with a 3.3 litre straight 6 diesel. Honda is such an irrelevant brand now.
