@@General_M haha great comeback 🤡 if having fun and living a little mean being a child then call me a child. Are you even American? Then mind your own business. The laws here have absolutely nothing to do with you.
The reason maybe why you think they toned it down is because the Elantra N DCT has quite a bit more pops and burbles, which used to be backwards with the Veloster N, as the manual was louder than the DCT. This car is probably THE definition of bang for your buck. This is $10,000 less than a Civic Type R and has better creature comforts and more importantly, a better exhaust.
Nice and thanks for the video! I push the button on the sidebreak when lifting it up, but my friend gave me a chuckle and said I was doing it wrong lol Well, the only difference I think is the +1 masculinity on each 'drag noise' you hear. I am glad Topher and I have the same method lol
My Sonata N-Line was definitely one of the most fun cars I've owned. Hyundai gets a lot of hate, but props to them for making cars like this still. I thought about an Elantra N, but it's just a tad small for my liking. That said, I really hope they end up putting the 2.5T in the Elantra N. Not a huge aftermarket for the 2.5T, but it's a torquey motor. And with a piggyback tune and bolt-ons my Sonata was making pretty decent power.
Dude you’re awesome. I research the mustand ecoboost, you upload, civic SI, same thing and now im looking into Elantra N and this shows on my feed! 😂 which ones the favorite out of those 3?
@@prodigyfreeman3935 31mpg average. I leased for 3 years at $1,000 under MSRP. I tend to not keep cars for too long so the lease made sense. I’d suggest looking at your local Hyundai dealer’s service center reviews and dealer reviews to see where’s the best location to buy/service at. The Elantra N Reddit has a ton of good info, pics, and whatnot as well. If I were purchasing a car for the long term I’d go another route, but it just depends on what you’re wanting. If you have any other questions just lmk and I’ll try to help.
I daily a Performance Blue VN PP 6MT with a resonator delete, the sounds are even better. It turns heads everywhere it goes. N cars are definitely the most bang for buck. Replace stock intake and get a bigger turbo inlet pipe for even more noise. My next project will be replacing the downpipe for the ultimate noise.
I had a 21' VN DCT in Performance blue with a resonator delete and a catted DP and the sound was GLORIOUS. First car I've ever bought brand new, and would absolutely recommend N cars
@@karmahunden ihad a few issues with Hyundai's warranty and there were a few recalls that worried me about long term ownership. I upgraded to a 2020 M340I, much faster, nicer interior, and more room (GF and I have a kid on the way).
The 6 speed is definitely the way to go with this car. I'm sure the DCT is great but it's so hard to find a true 6MT sports car these days that I think anyone who has the option should take it.
The 6MT is really nice but the DCT shines in long drives/roadtrips with the 2 extra gear, at 75mph you're just under 2K rpm and at 85mph you're slightly above 2K rpm so its pretty quiet and you can get to your destination faster by just cruising and definitely good on gas despite the small tank.
People seem to forget just because the car has a manual doesn’t mean its a GOOD manual. BMW for sure is known to have an average or below average experience vs something like a Civic Type R or Si
Not sure dct is right for a daily either.. traffic creep inching away just wears out the dct clutches. They might not fail in 5 years but it will catch up with you.. manual by far more robust transmission and likes power mods better as well
I’m new here, I just recently follow tedwards, the topher, and this channel. One thing I realized you guys have the same driving/ passing style. From what I’ve observed you don’t really like driving on the left lane on the highway. It seems that you always go 80ish mph cruising speed on second to left lane, creep to the next car up, then zigzag to pass and back to second lane. I just wanted to say its very different from where I drive.
Glad to see you discuss elbow comfort lol. I rented a ‘25 BMW X5 (which I absolutely loved) and put about 2500 miles on it. I could not find a comfy spot for my elbow and it bothered much more than I could have imagined.
I had the 2022 DCT version of the N for about a year and it was way louder than the new one. They must have toned it back because of California. Such a fun car to throw into corners!
The dct does not pull any harder than the manual, just shifts quicker and maintains boost through gear changes.. manual car drops its boost as you hit the clutch and needs to spool up boost again going into next gear. DCT quicker against stop watch but don’t pull any harder when on boost just more consistent in its application of boost
With the E-brake. Hold the button and pull it up. I haven't used one in a long time since my 2006 Acura TSX. My 2019 Honda Civic Si have (of course) an electronic one.
When/if the time comes to trade in my ND2 for something more practical (growing family), this is at the top of my list. Everything else is way too expensive and not necessarily more fun. I’m over the super fast super capable car phase, I want something fun to drive on the street at reasonable speeds and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to daily drive.
From a purely shifting experience, would you rather take the Si (with its rev hang) or the N (with its somewhat sloppy shifter)? Also, any cold transmission grinds?
For this car the manual is the better option. DCT is not great for daily driving to heat up the clutch packs in traffic inch g forward.. it may not fail now but down the track they will give up the ghost on you. Plus manual transmission more robust and and handle more power mods
I owned a 2022 EN 6-speed MT. Here are things to keep in mind: * Very jerky and hard to shift smoothly when the AC is on for the first ten minutes. * Takes a while for the engine and tires to warm up. * The car is very skittish and tail happy in the rain, similar to a rear-wheel drive car. * Very thirsty engine and small fuel range. * The seats are very uncomfortable and results in lower back pain after one hour drive. * The pedals are not properly spaced for heel-toe downshifts. * Occasional wheel-hop when shifting from 1st-2nd gear. * The shifter is very rubbery. * The ride quality is very stiff in “N” mode. * No sunroof in the MT, only in the AT which makes no sense.
my only issue with this is that Hyundai refuses to put a D steering wheel in the Elantra, but has the audacity to put it in the Kia, like it makes me upset every time I have to see a Kia get the D steering wheel treatment.
I want one of these so badly but laws over here in Germany have made them a financial nightmare. Might not even be road legal because of emissions, crazy high insurance(which is normal for an 'exotic' car, I know), and with Import fees and everything I'm already scratching 35k+.
Reliability wise how does this Hyundai 4 popper fair? Many Kia/Hyundai 4 cylinder power plants have had major premature engine failure issues. Just curious.
Not true at all. I have 0 reason to cover up reliability issues. I just haven’t heard any about N cars. Car Confections fully publicized their Santa Fe transmission failure and they still get Hyundai cars to test 🤷🏻♂️.
@@TopherDrives never thought you would cover up engine issues. I have just heard horror stories about the KIA/Hyundai 4 cylinder engines after a year or two of ownership. Was not sure if it also concerned the Elantra N. Love your channel brother. Thank you from Santa Barbara, CA .
The Car Care Nut reviewed the Elantra. He discusses both the base and N engines and he made clear that they are completely different 4 cylinder engines. In fact, he called the N engine a masterpiece and he knows his stuff.
Stock internals are good for 500whp. Most common limit right now is fueling, so I see a lot of meth + stock turbo setups that are faster than big turbo with no meth. Basically, without meth stock turbo is around 350whp. With meth 400whp. Internals can take more, seen 450+whp on big turbo setups with good fueling. Stock internals are good. Dct tq no tcu tune maxes out on an aggressive stock turbo tune, but tcu tunes are right around the corner. Stock manual transmission is good for 400whp. These numbers are all for cars that are perfectly reliable to abuse on track and drive hard daily.
Elantra N can take around 500whp before having to do some engine work. But if you want a car with 500whp a fwd car is not the move lol once you at 400whp it’s sketchy af couldn’t imagine 500whp
12:09 it seems like the transmission is the weakpoint, not the engine. You swap to some better injectors and slap a tune in and you are easily in mid 300s, but the manual is a little sketchy, the DCT seems to take the power better, but any more than that and the transmissions go according to forums and other people who have done it.
Lmfao what kind of random non sense. You hit the limits of the dct at around the limit of the stock turbo, so an aggressive tune or meth (much more common on the manual ENs). Stock manual transmission is more than fine with 400whp setups (basically meth and tune). The manual is undoubtedly the better trans for making big power, although the dct is considerably faster at the same power. Ndriverkg had a dct Elantra N on meth that got rear ended, and switched to a manual transmission EN. Basically all of our top records have been set with manual transmissions.
Whilst civic type R is marginally the better car overall, no way it’s worth the price difference .. Elantra N like buying a supreme pizza for $20 and type R is an extra anchovy you pay $30
I’m sure the Elantra N doesn’t have one to save on weight which is important bc they did build this car to be able to handle turns very well. Like the new Kia k4 has a spare tire and my old Kia k5 had a spare as well
Difference between a Honda and Hyundai? Things like unacceptable wind noise because Hyundai couldn't get the window/door alignment correct aka quality control...or even more nefarious, the window/door interface is poorly designed and therefore hypersensitive to adjustment and lots of owners stuck with it. PS. before anybody buys one, make sure you consult the internet forums of owners and see whether living with one is worth it aka quality and reliability. Many for example will opt for spending $3K less for a Honda Civic Si, biting the bullet on lower power and if you must have more power, tune it.
The Civic Si I just spent a few days in did feel substantially nicer (build quality wise). I really do love Hyundai’s effort to build these fun cars though.
Living with this car is very easy seats are very comfortable after broken in could be a bit of an issue if you a big boy but no complaints for a car that is 34k and is as good as it is. very amazing car
Yeah I've owned my Elantra N for months and not only have I never experienced these issues but I've never even heard of them. My Civic had way more QC issues than my Elantra N.
