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2024 Hyundai IONIQ 6 Limited AWD | Can You Road Trip WITHOUT Planning? 

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@Marcus_Wulfhart
@Marcus_Wulfhart 4 месяца назад
Bro, calm down. The infrastructure will get better, and a 30 min charge isn't that damn bad. Breath man.
@Panorama-memory
@Panorama-memory 5 месяцев назад
If you consider that you need to take a break at least once every 200 to 300 kilometers, and that the break is about 15 minutes, the driving distance is infinite as long as charging facilities are secured. If you charge for about 15 minutes, about 60% of the maximum driving range will always be guaranteed. The problem is the sufficient number of fast charging stations.
@ShawnGBR
@ShawnGBR 20 дней назад
13:30 - just two points. But there are numbers involved. Basically - stop blaming the charging company for saving your life, dude! One - a lot of people think that they should be getting 350kW at the highest speed charger but they're UP TO 350kW. And it's not Electrify America throttling that speed - it's your car, and for good reason. A Watt is a Volt multiplies by an Amp, and the 350kW chargers give a max of 1,000 Volts at 350 Amps. The 150kW stations are actually 175kW, giving 500 Volts at 350 Amps. Those BMWs that were taking the 350kW spaces can take 200kW, but only at a lower percentage of charge (it's easier to ram electrons in fast if there is plenty of space for them in an almost empty battery pack). But at a high state of charge in the EV, they'd get the same rate from the 'slower' charger. It's like if fuel pumps for ICE vehicles had the high octane fuel on dedicated pumps and someone in a Honda Civic is filling up at the 93 octane pump, stopping the Lamborghini Aventador driver from getting the good stuff. Even if the premium gasoline pump said "good for cars that can drive up to 220 mph", it's not going to make the Civic go any faster, certainly nowhere near 220mph, just as topping up a BMW i4 at the 350kW charger isn't any quicker than at the 150kW one most of the time. So when you say it should be taking in closer to that 350kW at 13:26 - The MOST the IONIQ 6 can take with their 800 Volt architecture is that voltage at 300 or so Amps. Maybe a smidgen more. So times those together, that's 240,000 Watts. 240kW. And looking at the charge curve for the IONIQ 6, that's at under 50% (ramming in the electrons at a low state of charge). evkx.net/models/hyundai/ioniq_6/ioniq_6_long_range_awd/chargingcurve/ In optimal conditions (if you'd have pre-conditioned the battery for half an hour, or if it were a sunny warm June day) you'd be getting close to 170kW charge at 55% state of charge. But with a cooler damper bottom of the car at that higher rate of charge? You WANT to be getting 103kW. Or the 74kW you were getting at 69% state of charge a little later. Don't blame Electrify America for that, it's talking with your car and it's the car is saying, "any more than that, at this temperature, at this state of charge? I'll literally burst into flames." Not figuratively. Literally. A literal ball of burning lithium battery packs. And if at any time you see on the screen that any regular current EV near you shows it IS taking in 350kW? 𝐑𝐔𝐍. 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐖𝐀𝐑𝐍 𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐘𝐎𝐍𝐄 𝐄𝐋𝐒𝐄 𝐓𝐎 𝐑𝐔𝐍 𝐓𝐎𝐎. So please, please, stop complaining the car should be getting close to 350kW, especially at 55% already charged. You never want an 800 Volt car that can handle around 300 Amps taking in 1,000 Volts at 350 Amps at the best of times and you certainly don't want that happening with an already primed with energy battery. That would be 𝐚 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐘, 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐘, 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐘 𝐁𝐀𝐃 𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐍𝐆. Stop trying to wish your car was an electro bomb. The technicians know more than you do. It's not a problem, and you shouldn't be seeing faster charging speed than what you were getting. =-=-= Two - you were less than ten miles from the charger when you routed to the Electrify America location, and you did this in the rainy and cool spring. It usually takes a car around half an hour, or 30 miles, to give the system enough time to get the battery up to optimal temperature of above 70ºF / 21ºC. There's a good look at the outside temperature at timestamp 11:50 where it shows 65ºF / 18ºC, and you'd been driving in that rain which would have splashed under the car and cooled the underside down through conduction. It's like putting an electric heater in a bathroom on a colder day - if you don't have it running long enough to get the room toasty, you're still going to get a bit of a foggy mirror. The few minutes it was running may have helped a little, but not much. If the outside air was dry and the temperature was something like 77ºF / 25ºC to 86ºF / 30ºC, you wouldn't need to precondition the battery at all. The latent air temperature would have it at the perfect temperature when you plugged in.
@Marcus_Wulfhart
@Marcus_Wulfhart 4 месяца назад
Downvoted, way too much crying...Jesus, take a breath, it's not that bad. Especially for those charging free woth their Ioniq/Electrify America deal
@Marcus_Wulfhart
@Marcus_Wulfhart 4 месяца назад
Lol, this guy is not very bright. What car in America fills up for $18? Name this myster car with a 6 gallon tank, please.
@emtblife8944
@emtblife8944 4 месяца назад
Well first, to be fair, the 350 rate is an "Up To" rate, not a guaranteed rate. Second, that rate usually only happens when none of the other chargers are being used. The chargers all share from the same storage bank/power source and have a max peak output. If the total peak output of the bank is 850 kw and you have 6 or 8 chargers, it is inevitably going to slow down to service all chargers. I would bet if you were at a less busy station, the results would have been much different.
@fredrose111
@fredrose111 4 месяца назад
You get free cha😢raging for 2 years with electrify America on The Hyundais. Only thing is you are limited to 30 minutes per session
@Marcus_Wulfhart
@Marcus_Wulfhart 4 месяца назад
It's actually unlimited, unplug, then plug back in right away, 30 min limit is refreshed
@WRKFLO
@WRKFLO 5 месяцев назад
electrify america has literally like 4 spread out along the OUTSKIRTS of the metroplex. seriously whats up with that?!
@daun7710
@daun7710 5 месяцев назад
Electrify America is owned by Volkswagen as an agreement for dieselgate.
@GTGarageTalk
@GTGarageTalk 5 месяцев назад
Correct. But they are still a functioning company trying to make a profit.
@daun7710
@daun7710 5 месяцев назад
@@GTGarageTalk It's plausible that once they fulfilled the obligation to build it then they have no obligation to maintain it. If a court ordered you to do something and you do it then you no longer have a legal obligation. So the company could put together a skeleton staff and put their resources in other things.
@ZeuS44-g6y
@ZeuS44-g6y 5 месяцев назад
for this reason alone (charging issues) is why i wont get an EV just yet..
@GTGarageTalk
@GTGarageTalk 5 месяцев назад
The cars themselves have gotten really good, but are let down by everything else.
@robsquared2
@robsquared2 7 дней назад
If you have a level 2 charger at home and your commute is less than like 200 miles a day you'll never need to use a public charger.
@ashyp1991
@ashyp1991 5 месяцев назад
charging curve?
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