Jesse, I finally got to play around with my '17 Switchback SP that I had Bruce build the rear shocks (XCR FTS, XCR Velocity rear) and holy moly did she's way more playful than factory with the non-adjustable Fox shocks. The trade-off is more ski lift, both under power and in tight turns. Going to play with the strap like you did here. Very pleased with Southside's service and professionalism! FWIW, the old non-adjustable Fox factory setup was very good, albeit not adjustable. Would be interesting to shock dyno them to see how they are setup from the factory compared to the built Walkers.
Drill another hole in the tunnel for the skid to bolt into above the factory one and you should still be able to retain travel, then to help tame the transfer play with the rear springs. That’s always worked well for my assault. I went to a 24 vr1 this season what a trail weapon!
Jesse, our snowmobile club runs a raffle every year on a new sled. We charge $100 a ticket and only sell 275 tickets. Also offer a great 2nd and 3rd place prize. Tickets usually sell in about 2 weeks. I’m all for this👍
most guys have commented more $ less tickets. i like that end $ amount that you guys end up at for sure but just trying to figure out the best convo of $ and spots! appreciate the input!
Just curious, did you do much testing before you studded the track? In my experience studding the track drastically changes the sled's handling. A little slip and slide ups the fun factor and reduces inside ski lift. A little slide in the corner helps the side rotate. I respect your mission to dial things in to your liking. And I think you're providing a great service to others with these setup video. I just wanted to provide a different perspective. Looking forward to the next installment.
Great Job Jesse, as always! I just had Bruce do both of the assaults in my garage, and haven't had a chance to try them yet. Love the feedback! As for the raffle - $100 is good....
I’d do the raffle for $100 a ticket. Very interesting and informative as always. I have a ‘14 600 Switchback Pro-X that suffers from inside ski lift due to the uncoupled skid. I have the FTS set to min preload, increased preload in the RTS, and increased IFS shock preload and it seems to tame it fairly well. I’d be interested in what your changes were on your previous Switchback Pro-S?
What about bumps? Are you restricting the travel up front and bottoming quicker on the initial hit? If you had coupler blocks what would you do to keep the nose down, move the contact point closer or farther away ?
You'll lose a bit of travel with FTS but it's not often that your bottoming the FTS anyways in my opinion. When I've bottomed it always felt at the rear track shock area. As far as coupler blocks go the closer they are to the front of the sled, the less weight transfer you get, which in turn would help keep the skis more planted. The other edge of that sword is that you will lose track bite under acceleration, so much that you'll could even lose acceleration because there isn't enough weight transfer. The farther back setting of the blocks increases weight transfer, which can greatly increase track bite, but also reduce ski pressure under acceleration. Keep in mind that the coupler block settings do their thing the most under acceleration.
@@patrick00pierret I’ve hit hard sharp bumps and feel I’ve bottomed the FTS plenty of times but I’m a bit fat🙃. So early engagement of the coupler block will contact the scissor quicker and will increase ski pressure. I thought so but I’ve been on Rush and Pro S rigs for so long I had to confirm for my new VR-1, thank you .
@@mobilewintercamp7515 I can totally see a FTS bottom depending on the shock calibration! I'd say bigger guys like us can get away a limiter strap not being super sucked in anyways. My wifes 2020 xc 600 I gotta take away ski pressure. She was getting stuck on flat pavement! My plan is to increase FTS preload and set the coupling block to medium, they are set to high (all the way forward) right now
I would par take if tickets were $50-$100. Also, I have a quick question. Would turning up the FTS (harder), help with inside ski lift on my 2020 Indy XC 137? Thx
No will make It worse. Need almost no preload on FTS spring. Increase ski spring preload. If that doesn’t work shorten linter strap and reset preload on FTS. Just like this video
I don’t mind the voiceover. You get so in depth in your videos that I feel like talking while you were on the sled wouldn’t be as informative. Maybe a mix of both? I guess I like the voiceover.
Hypothetically speaking, say you can’t dial the assault the way you want it and realize it’s a 20%/80% and Polaris doesn’t come out with a new sled for your 2025 testing, which sled would you choose to go back to for 2025. I know I’d be looking for a 9R XCR 136 but that’s just me. I’m a no on the raffle I’ve wasted too much money on them but great idea definitely do it for your channel. #Tughill rider here praying for some white 😭
thats a really good question. but I have full faith with some spring changes and some valving we will have this assault on rails!! I know the raffles are tough but if its a good enough price its worth It!!
I know you will that’s why I said hypothetically! Okay so if the assault fell off the face of the earth and there was no new sled, what would you go back to.
This confirmed for me that I would not want an assault for trail riding. The inside ski lift looks like it would get annoying when youre on the second half of a 150-200 mile day.
Does southside make sure all the sleds go out with no air lock in the oil line. Lots of ranting about sleds going down because of it. Why has the mfg not changed the design to remedy this.
that just doesnt make sense though. if guys want ti spend the money why would i stop them ya know? i see from someone enetering they want the same chance to win but from the other side (my side) if guys wanna spend 4 times more $ then the next have at it
Said it from the beginning…why are you trying to make an XCR out of an assault. You will never make an assault an xcr. Raffle that thing off and get back to what works 👍🏻
missing the point here buddy!! this is a full year of testing. seeing what these sleds like and dont like so when people call or reach out we can say do this or do that! with nothing new in the short track world was the perfect year to see what we can learn!!
lol buddy, changing a limiter strap to shorter is going to have the same outcome on any setup, you did some shock work and put some studs in it and you think you are being bill nye the science guy?
Haha relax they are making good content for flat landers. For me I like a Long track that is good in deep snow or slush but also don't like the ski lifting all the time in trails
idk why your so sour. we'll be doing shock and spring work all year. spindle changes rear suspension changes etc. nor reinventing the wheel just seeing what does what on these assault but dont like it dont watch it
