Bit of a sweeping statement - the market for a Prado v Defender is quite different . Defender buyers would not pull the trigger on the Prado (Me being one)
I hoped everyone’s wishes of V6 anything came true! But I’ve been saying for months if 24 Tacoma didn’t have a petrol V6 nothing would be bigger in the Prado basically Au has NO Choice and Yota stipulate what we get! Au markets is not big enough for choice 😢 we get what the rest get with the diesel 2.8 being the exception
Unfortunately I don’t think a hybrid diesel is a good idea as diesel engines already have enough problems with their diesel particulate filters especially when used for short trips and not properly loaded for lengthy time periods. A hybrid would prevent these ideal use conditions which is probably why Toyota never puts diesel engines in hybrid vehicles . I would consider a hybrid system like they have on the new Nissan Xtrail even though this type of hybrid cannot be as efficient as the Toyota system I prefer it as it eliminates the need for a gearbox though in the case of a proper off road vehicle like the a Prado you would probably still need a two speed gear box to to serve as a high/low range option.
I’m speechless the best thing about this is you doing it and the green circles I really hate the look but as usual a very high quality edit and well put together but omg it’s ugly
That steering wheel. It looks like it can only be held on the round / circular part. The horizontals look too fat to wrap a hand around comfortably. I prefer holding the horizontal on long trips, or just cruising. And the bottom part looks like it has no holes to slip a thumb through. Kinda crazy for the part you deal with the most.
Here in Japan, same engine and drivetrain as last years Prado- 2.7 gas & 2.8 diesel. Toyota needs to step with up with their color selection. They kind of borrowed Apples mentality, if you want a certain color you have to buy the highest grade vehicle. Only two colors available in my price range grade with the diesel-white & black. Price is Y5,200,000. no discount, non-negotiable and with a three year wait here in Japan. Good luck Toyota!
I would love to see a v6 in it don't get me wrong, but having said that, if that's what you want its pretty simple...buy a 300. You are overlooking the fact that Ford don't offer a larger version of the Everest, its the Everest and that's it, that is their top dog and of course they will give it everything. Toyota has always had the smaller Prado for those who don't want or need such a big rig, and if you do then the full size lager land cruiser is for you. Also for what its worth i actually rate the 2.8 diesel, personally i think it is a great engine with ample power. like i said if you want more buy a 300.
Very disappointing that no V6 diesel was offered. I thought I would be going back to a Prado but not with that power pack. The rest looks fantastic. Pity.
Its poor marketing and research if they are only going to offer a 4 pot. Look at how popular the V6 prados and FJ cruisers were and still are. The people saying that they failed by not offering diesel in the fj, never drove a petrol one. Instant power on demand no rattling can of bolts and great economy from the dual vvti v6.
Engine is pathetic in this day and age. Aussies like big motors with decent power for towing, this offers neither. Ford will be very happy with this release as Everest sales will soar.
@@lukewarm2075 over tail is the one most will want so ad $$,$$$ dealer mark up over sticker. cant wait in line resale dealers will have them $100,000 guess
i like the look of these - sort of brings in the FJ Cruiser styling, and a nod back to the old days. be interesting to see what they look like in the flesh
If only they chucked in the V6 again and twin turbod it. Even single turbo or NA v6 id buy one in a heartbeat. But until then il hang onto my FJ cruisers.
Unlikely - they went on a lot in the clip about about how they were going back to restart in terms of requirements. But they forgot that every Prado has had long range rtanks. 80, 100, 200, 300 series did too. What were you thinking Toyota!
Looks great, glad to see companies making boxy tough looking 4wd's instead of the soccer mum look we've been getting for decades. Not sure about those engine options though.
Id buy or preorder in a heartbeat if i could get the v6 twin turbo petrol or a v6 hybrid. The lighter vehicle with more power is a winning combination for longevity, economy and cruising. Having an engine basically idling as you cruise at 110kmh means theres less wear and strain on the engine, chucking in a tiny little 4 cylinder turbo diesel under huge boost with life support equipment attached at every corner of it to reduce its emissions and basically force feed its own farts down its throat is stupidity. Yeah Toyota make great kit, but id never go back to a diesel after owning v6 petrol and v8 petrol Toyota engines.
Well Paul I was super excited but now it’s a NOOO No decent engine Lack of improvement in towing Still appears not to be class leading with the likes of Isuzu and killer Ranger Coupled with reduced fuel tank capacity it sadly looks like an metro kids hauler with all the show but no Kakadu Go! Oh Toyota what have u done Make the current Prado a keeper 😢 They haven’t listened to the customer We want grunt range and tow Isuzu and Ford must be having a party now Ok Toyota wins the style So if all u want is looks without the nomad needs for Oz Then buy a Pfrado
Looks great again let down by engines. I had a 2005 Prodo with V6 4 litre petrol. Also a FJ Cruiser with V6 4 litre petrol great vehicles. If this had that engine i would buy. Unfortunately Toyota are not good at building Diesel engines. 😊
Come on, the updated 2.8 TD should do ok, especially with mild-hybridization. And that 2.4 turbo petrol in the US will be good for 9 mpg approximately in real conditions ^^
Nice video, Paul. Mixed feelings about the car though. Very much tonky toy feeling. If it was the revived FJ cruiser, it would make a perfect sense. But Prado? mmmm not convinced. Yet.
Toyota nailed the design but killed the engines that could make it the number one in sales. Prado is not worth more then a fortuner if it has the same engine. Real sad if this will replace a 79 landcruiser
Id much rather a v6 twin turbo petrol over any diesel. Diesels are just becoming a thing of the past, and the last good proper toyota diesel was the 1hd. The current 1gd 4 cylinder is a pretty big letdown in my eyes. it's an underpowered, timing chain chewer. Not too mention lets not even get started with toyotas' dpf issues. Even though the new 300 series has come out with the f33a v6 diesel, that would have been a much better option in my eyes for the 250 series prado AND lc70 series. But even then, it's too early to tell on how reliable that is. For me, if i was going to buy one, I'd want it to be a v6 twin turbo petrol. Diesels are just getting far too over complicated and over engineered for emissions, and trying to make power just isn't there. Sure, you can tune and spice them up a bit, and they go ok, but even then. Their still behind anything thats a turbo petrol. In saying that, a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder 2.7 ( 2tr id belive ) shocks me in a new landcruiser.... its like still buying a 5le engine option in a prado or hilux ( yes you still can overseas ). They were crap 20 years ago, their crap now. And for me, toyota needs to go back to the design department because my god, all 3 landcruisers ( 300, 250, and 70 ) are definitely nothing nice to look at 🤢. Please note : This is my personal opinion.... 😂.
That squared off militaristic styling is AWESOME 👍😲 Who the hell wants a hybrid off roader though ?? How will you get special parts for that in outback Australia😩
I do ! I need a low polluting city vehicle that I can also use to go out into the bush to visit isolated rural projects. You get parts for it the same way you get other parts. What extra service parts does it need, anyway?
@@rallychamp2003 Low polluting ? It only gets about 10% better fuel economy than a standard engine ! If you're worried about pollution don't buy a 4WD ! There are hundreds of extra parts in the hybrid system that a standard car doesn't have. Hybrids have NEVER been tested in wet, muddy off-road conditions.
@@Afriqueleblanq Toyota sells tens of thousands of those models in Australia, Africa and the Middle East, the three biggest markets. Reliability is critical. These aren't the typical American SUV that's never driven on dirt in it's life. Think about where its sold from a global perspective, don't be ignorant.
@@edwardfletcher7790 The Toyota Kluger/ Highlander hybrid gets 40% better fuel economy overall than the non-hybrid. (and 60% better in city driving). How do you get non-hybrid parts for the new Prado in outback Australia? The extra parts for hybrids are mostly solid state and very few have moving components subject to wear. Believe it or not, not every new Prado buyer lives and works solely in the bush. You need to spend more time on RU-vid to see plenty of videos of hybrids being tested in wet, muddy, snowy, and trail conditions.
I love the new design, a blend of retro / classic style with modern look. I can’t imagine Toyota not offering a V6 turbo diesel, when most of its competitors do in their range topping models.
It's time for you Australians, not just us Europeans, to learn that engines are getting smaller because of emissions regulations and fuel consumption! This has been with us for over 15 years. Only the f ***ing Americans don't have to.
Can’t wait for the new Fortuner to be based on the TNGA-F platform now, all this while the Fortuner has been always ignored in the Aussie market considering the Prado was always a better option. Eagerly waiting for the 165kw and 550Nm with mild-hybrid tech Fortuner…
@@aimanfitri0iv not similar mate, exactly same. Every Body On Frame Toyota will be based on the TNGA-F starting with the Tundra and LC300, it’s cheaper for the company to do this rather than manage more than 2 platforms. Like the current IMV platform of the Hilux and Fortuner will be scrapped. So everything in between from the Hilux/Fortuner to the Lexus LX, will be based on the same TNGA-F platform.
@@sanchaynarain3532I actually don’t think we’ll get a new fortuner. Too similar to Prado now. The only difference before was the different platform and larger size of Prado. This looks like it’s more compact than the old Prado - so I doubt we’ll get a fortuner - especially given how poorly it sold here
@@tim9241This is bigger than the old Prado actually. It has the same wheelbase as the LC300, just a little more narrow width and slightly shorter overall length
this is the 4 door FJ everybody wanted. now i know what will replace my own FJ in a few years time. in terms of capabilities this seems decently qualified. my only gripe is that they didn't give it removable roof panels like a Wrangler or a Bronco. heck, even an old school sunroof would have been a step up when compared with the FJ. edit: it does indeed have a classic sunroof.
Can't really compare the FJ to the prado. Let's me honest, the majority of people that buy these prados will be young families looking for a SUV, and can't quite afford or care to drop the coin on a 300. They really won't care if it's got a removable sunroof....
that's what the Fortuner is for.@@dankim3950 i get your point and it's true that a lot of people buy off-road capable vehicles only to keep them on the paved roads. even Jeep buyers do that. but, just judging by 1) the way this car looks, and 2) its equipment and tech it has, it would be silly to pay for this car and not take it off the paved roads. why would a soccer mom want to pay for 2 lockable differentials and MTS and still NOT have a third row of seats? i mean just look at the car does it look like a soccer mom car to you?
It can tow 3500, I think that is an error, my current prado is rated at 3500kg, with the 2.8 L diesel, so I'm sure the new one will equal that as it will have the same 2.8L diesel.
Why the phuck would you want to pull that much weight around? Buy a bloody truck or build a house. If you cant go camping with less than 2.5 bloody tonnes theres something seriously wrong.
Hi Paul i have a 4 litre petrol prado and was contemplating buying a patrol as there were no other options without a diesel , but i then heard of the possibility of the new prado having a petrol engine so i have been hanging out to get more info, i cant tell you how disappointed i am to see that we will still only get a crappy diesel great another 0 to 100 in 13 seconds 4wd might as well drive a 4 wheel drive bus , looks like im buying that patrol after all.
@@BorgCreations It is a 48 volt mild hybrid just as many other have like the rs6 it will make no difference to performance it basically run the auxiliaries , this new Prado should weight about 2300 to 2400 kgs so 150 kw will get you nowhere fast, a mate has the current 150 kw prado and it struggles to tow his 2 tonne boat up a small incline so i dought this will be any better just my humble opinion.
I have the latest model 2.8 diesel and it has plenty of power. You must have the older version. Mine does 0-60 mph I'm undr 10 seconds. And it pulls like a tank. A 4x4 is not built for speed anyway. I am anyway very happy with this diesel engine and am glad they are putting that in the new model also. Here there will be no hybrid, just the standard 2.8L diesel like my current model.
Can we put pressure on Toyota Australia and main Toyota corp to provide Australia with the same engine as the American Land Cruiser? Pretty disappointing we are not getting the options.
The hybrid engines will make it to the models in the future in more markets. America is just getting priority with all the hybrid powertrains because of their weird emission regulations for all the cars produced outside North America.
@@JackFN_VR64 whilst I love the bush the majority of my driving is in city traffic, so the hybrid would keep the cost down to buy more toys for the bush days
V6 petrol is absolutely impossible as it would impact the sales of LC300. But the 2.4T hybrid is possible once we adopt Euro 6 emission standard and enforce tough fuel efficiency on new vehicles in the coming years.
Classic, the new gx from Lexus is the same vehicle that comes with a V6 turbo capable of 350hp. Clearly don’t want to offer it in the Toyota equivalent. Shame That said the 2.4 turbo petrol hybrid in the US ( same vehicle but called confusingly to us the land cruiser ) had 326hp
Wrong, in the EU it only comes with the 2.8 diesel and here we have even stricter Euro 7 and the strictest fleet averages in the world. The 4x4 hybrids don't save fuel. It's just a 330 hp petrol guzzler. The diesel is the pragmatic option. The petrol hybrid will also guzzle fuel when towing anything, the diesel is the sensible option. Also no 5-10k battery replacement after 10 or more years.
Argggggg why do car manufacturer’s never give you 100%. They bring these cars out with 90% of what you want constantly.!!! I was really hoping for a V6 in this. Now I’m going to consider something else. Having strong towing capability is a must.
Would you say it performs somewhat better than the FJ cruiser on Sand Dunes, Deep Mud, Water Wading, Rock Crawling...etc?. Does it accelerate faster? Does it have better handling? Many questions come to mind as I'm considering on purchasing a new vehicle, either this one or an FJ Cruiser will be my next off-road adventurer as I needed better performance off the beaten track than My currently owned Suzuki Jimny.
@@basselamjad958 i dont think they were saying they have had both i think they were saying they just like the design of the new one and stuff like that. i have a fj myself and it makes 240hp so im sure the turbo 4 cylinder that U.S. will get will be quicker and their systems are probably better for offroading. Fj's are older veicles but they are bare bones and im sure are easier to modify. both im sure would be great but if you get the landcruiser it will likely have less miles and be way nicer but you might feel bad beating on a brand new vehicle. the fj isnt the best bang for your buck since they have gone so much in price but in my opinion its a great truck and is super fun
Been looking forward to this for few years. Overall a bit underwhelming with the lack of engine options/upgrades and looks wise they have over cooked the square trend thats for sure 🤢
Having only one engine option in Aust means more repairable in remote areas. Why? More likely that parts will be nearby, and more locals will have some familiarity with the 4 cylinder diesel.
When will Australia know what models ,options and pricing is coming down under? The real acid test is will be kw , torque and towing ability, anything under 3500 kg will be underdone. The outgoing model is underpowered, hope Toyota listened . 🤞🤞
@AdmissionGaming I genuinely don't think there is a bad ENGINE out there but some manufacturers have a lot of trouble with bolt on stuff for emissions compliance... 3.2lt P5AT Ranger engine is a prime example too. Good motors, shocking bolt ons
New shape - good, SDM (aka KDSS) - great! But initially looks like we are only getting the 2.8TD ATM - really disappointing, and I hope that changes. Physical buttons - great. Really would like to have the swing door and tyre on the back and the long range tanks! Also would like an option with no 3rd row. We'll see what happens when we get a bit more info. Nice review as usual Paul!
i don´t think that´ll change, the reason for those awful tiny engines are emission requierements all around the world, especially us idiotic europeans. Alot of Diesel cars or at least Diesel options are being discontinued here for the same reason of "Euro 7" emission standard. And making dedicated better engines for small markets like australia where perhaps there are less awful laws, is certainly not profitable, at least that´s what i think from my limited pov.
@@lordchadwickedwardsiii4093 arguably not, because smaller engines tend to use alot more fuel under high load, as is evident by the new Mazda CX-60, it comes with a mild hybrid, turbo charged 3,3L 6Cylinder Diesel and only consumes around 5,5L/100km in actual real world testing. which is alot less fuel than similarily sized SUVs with 2L engines with otherwise similar properties like an Audi Q5 or VW Tuareg, BMW X3 and so forth. Also, bigger sized engines tend to be stressed less and thus live longer, since they don´t reach their performance and thermal limits as fast and hard as smaller engines. A good example of this is also the current Gen VW T6/6.1 Bus, which can come with a 200+ HP 2L Turbo Diesel for a big, very heavy vehicle with 4WD and everything, the engine is notorious for failing early here in germany because it´s just always operating at it´s limits. The older T4 and T5 Models with 2,5L TDIs didn´t have that problem.
@@heinzketchup4558 bro have you ever used the new toyota 2.8 turbo diesel ever? No I did not talk about the micro european diesel engines with bad fuel efficiency.
Toyota wont cannibalise the 300 by putting the V6 diesel in this platform., Theyve got pretty clear segmentation across their range regarding power and purpose for its 4wds. Additionally, its a Prado, one the highest sold platforms in toyotas line up in Australia 😂 people will buy it regardless of the fact it misses out on the V6 diesel. Also the Lexus GX will be your option for more power in this chassis, but that will be priced on par or more then a GR sport 300 realistically.
Looks very cool, gives me 60 series vibes with a touch of 76 series in the profile and even a little 100 series rear door style A little surprised Toyota went this route, it's more FJ Cruiser than conservative Prado
@@iyeshapaull2379 NO. Horizontally split. For example you can open just the top half to load up. Also the lower tail gate is shorter. Easier to open in a confined space
Love the design. Also wish they'd given a few more engine options at release. Are you sure the 2.8L TD is the only option for Australia given how far we are from release? I'm hoping there's enough interest from buyers to get the 2.4L hybrid included for Australia at release. I've got an order/spot in the queue regardless as the wait list is likely to build very quickly (like everything else!)
These 2-3Ll turbo diesels are old school now and underwhelming to drive (based on current Prado), peaky narrow powerband. We are getting screwed. Think of the savings of not developing a new engine! Interest evaporated. If i was rich I'd buy one and engine swap it. 😁
Very excited to see one in real life, the rectangular headlight version looks great on the outside and l like the dash that has a traditional gauge speedometer, which is easier to glance at to know your speed. Also would love to see HUD. Hope it has the same or better range than the current duel tank version. My theory on why they have mild hybrid diesel is this, since the wheel base is the same as the 300 series, it may have a very similar duel tank setup between the front and back wheels which is smaller than the duel tank capacity of the current Prado, but by having mild hybrid technology this could be to compensate for not having the same capacity tank size by ensuring the same or longer range through better fuel consumption. Also l absolutely hate the plastic shroud that goes from the centre console to floor, that they have placed between the centre console and the middle of the second row seat. This piece of plastic is going to get scuffed and scratched like crazy and is going to look very second hand in a very short period of time. This should have been carpeted Toyota, seriously. Also did they use aluminium panels to reduce weight? Would like see wheels with black and silver machine finished highlights instead of just all blacked or greyed out.
The current prado doesn't have a dual tank set up, it only has one tank as the spare wheel is underneath. I know as I have the current version, bought new last year. This new one also has the spare wheel underneath and from the specs I have been able to find the tank is the same 89 litres as the current prado. At least for the diesel anyway.
@Car-crazy In Australia, the current Prado can have from factory the spare wheel mounted on the tailgate or mounted underneath the vehicle. When mounted on the tailgate the vehicle is fitted with an additional fuel tank. So having dual tanks provides a total of 150 litres.
I guess my search for a 2022 Sequoia will continue . I love the look of this vehicle and had it been available in V6 i probably would have ordered one . 4cyl ... pass
looks great but so many new cars that have been staples for Australian families for decades are now becoming out of reach for the regular aussie due to price which is disappointing
Definitely need a V6 diesel 200kw & 600nm with a supercharger 😊would blow all their competitors out of the water.. Unfortunately it ain't going to happen..Toyota Prado always just falling short of giving Aussies what they want.,I have a 2020 2.8 litre 500 nm & a 150 litre diesel tank.. travelling around Australia...it's a great car...but I'm seriously looking at the land rover defender as my next option...sorry Toyota but I can't keep waiting...
I think they were wrong to give it 7 seats and they should be optional extras rather than standard, this would have made the fortuner, prado fit in the middle of the market and left the bigger land cruiser to be the upper to top of the market and really catered to everyone, and also hoovering up the landrover enthusiasts who were left high and dry when landrover decided to shaft them with the new discovery and defender.
@@grantgray8688 I have a Hilux with the same engine for 7 years now. Definitely the engine will need more grunt, the highest I have towed is about 2 ton, fuel has not been an issue for me more or less the same to my 2022 2.0 Tiguan. Anyway, if I need to go shopping or hop somewhere very fast, I would probably hop in the Tiguan lol
I thinks it’s ugly and a major step backwards with external appeal. Easy to improve on in the future though I suppose. And while there is a Landcruiser, the Prado won’t be too exiting so it doesn’t rob sales from its way overpriced big brother. Overall disappointing and an easily forgettable upgrade. I have owned a couple of Prados now and I’d hold onto the ones you’ve already got.
I'd say we will get it in Europe badged as landcruiser. It will be interesting to see what drivetrains will be available. The 3 & 5 door commercial models in europe are real work horses with farmers and tradies
I cannot believe no V6, just the old carry over Hilux engine. Was really looking forward to finally have some nice V6 grunt even if they downtune the 3.3L to just 200 Kw. I hope they are not serious with just this one engine. I don't understand Toyota, I really want to buy a car with a Toyota badge, why can I not have it with a competitive engine????? I bet you Toyota will say "we dont want to hamper Lexus sales" as those engines gets offered in the Lexus in the same platform. Thing is you will sell 5 Lexus's a month and 100 Prados, and would rather cater for those 5 clients thant the 100 Prado owners. Very disappointed for sure.
To be honest, I dont mind the current Prado at all. It was the 2.8l engine that let it down because it did not have enough grunt for a car that large and that heavy and offroad towing focussed. The current Prado with a 3.3 V6 diesel from the big daay landcruiser would have been perfect
I have the current Prado 2.8 D and find it has plenty of grunt. Not sure what people are expecting from it, but it will cruise for mile after mile on the motorway in top gear even up steep hills that we have here totally effortlessly. Very good for over taking quickly too. The engine is a well proven reliable power plant, so I don't think Toyota will change it, as it will just add to the cost of the car to develop a new engine. Also if they put a bigger engine in it, then it will affect the land cruiser and lexus sales.
With the mild hybrid and spare under the car, there is no room for long range tanks and they may even have to reduce the size of current tank, hope not, Australia is a bloody big country, we all the fuel we can carry.
I love my FJ Cruiser, but, I am psyching up to let her go to achieve this new Prado. I would not purchase a current Prado, as I am more in to the Defender / utilitarian look. Really looking forward to seeing it in Australia. Interesting the lack of V6 option. But look at the success of the FJ Cruiser with the 4.0 litre petrol engine. Keep up the great work with your fantastic reviews.
Lousy review by a clueless millenial. Great design by Toyota. That 2.7 litre is one of Toyota's best engines for longevity. Far superior to many of its diesels. Be glad this has the 2.8 as the hot Vee is not going to last like the old V8.
THEY FINALLY UPDATED the Prado. OMG how many years since the First Generation of the current shape. Looks great. I think this what the Defender should have looked like. Too expensive for me atm. But looking forward to seeing these out and about.
