2025 Toyota Camry | Talking Cars  

Toyota of Hemet. It's located in the California desert. Inland empire area. They sold me a 25 SE $2.454 under MSRP. I got it less than a week ago.

They suck here in PA too. But due to the demand for toyota products it's take it or leave it we have 10 more buyers waiting for it.

I expected this too, but surprisingly they're selling for MSRP or even a little less around here. No stupid Pulse junk either. The inventory problem I see is they're almost all LE trim, seriously like 9 LEs for every one XLE or XSE when searching inventory.

Demand will get intense because the Accord looks like a Buick.

@@6mtzhp55 my experience is the opposite. So many SE and XLE but barely any LE's. Prefer LE due to cloth seats in the PHX weather

Better engine on what basis?? The V6 was good enough for Lotus to take it. Need to put your thoughts in perspective.

Accord has a much better stereo : )

if the oil is brown it's dirty. 😉 it should be almost clear/transparent.

Synthetic oil has been cheap for years. There is crazy markup at dealerships. But if you do the oil change yourself very little price difference. I think they are looking for things to talk about

I try to drive like grandma and follow the severe oil change schedule

Just buy your oil/filter....take it to oil-change place...

The Prius gets more mpg, and if choosing a hybrid Camry that gets 5-10 more mpg than a non hybrid Camry. You can bet that a Prius that gets 10-15 more mpg will seem like a worthy purchase.

Not really bc if you want the size of the Corolla but want more power and style than the Corolla hybrid you get the Prius

It’s great to have freedom of choice! I’m glad you got what you need. I on the other hand have had a Tesla for 6 years now & will never buy an ICE Vehicle unless maybe a truck. MY Midrl 3has been low low maintenance, realizable & dependable. I have 102K miles on it. Original brakes. On my my Third set of tires with first set lasting 47K, 45the second set. I will need to change the wiper blades & will change the cabin air filters again for the third time. The 12 volt battery went out in 4 years & Tesla mobile came & replaced timely at home & cost me $114.00 out the door! My F150 & infinity I took in to service station & cost me minimum$139.00 plus extended warranty! Glad it wasn’t a BMW, Mercedes or Audi then those batteries cost $500 30:17 based on coworkers that have various German cars. I did have a rear lamp assembly I had to replace due to water getting into it. Was odd. But that’s it. I plan on keeping this cars until it no longer drives or I break down & buy a new EV. At least 6 persons from my department have bought a Tesla based on my results. Let’s see how the Chinese EV invasion of cars do against all these established vehicles.

Several reasons, my Tesla has instant torque, unmatched by any gas car or hybrid. Amazing performance, and gets over 130 MPGe. A lot of tech not available from other brands. Most people don't keep cars 30 years. I am planning on 6-8. CR just confirmed that Teslas are cheapest cars to maintain of any brand. I do respect Toyota going to an all hybrid line up with the new Camry. Fuel efficiency is very important.

Many car buyers don't make car purchasing decisions valuing any of those things.

would not say cheap anymore

And it probably won't spy on you and send everything that happens in and around the vehicle to Toyota HQ where compromising or embarrassing situations can be shared amongst employees. Tesla has been caught doing that.

It will last 30 years if one is willing to spend the money to keep fixing it and parts are available down the road.

Because of the high number of EV’s being sold in California, that state is raising the gas tax to make up for the loss of gasoline being sold. Several states are considering raising the yearly registration fees on EV’s to make up for the lost revenue from the gas taxes.

10:08 agreed. I rented one for a trip to DC and after 10 hours of driving I was really wanted a longer lower cushion. which is odd because Lexus has some of the best seats I have ever been in.

I totally agree! I really dislike having sunroofs bundled with trim levels. Especially since all but the lowest of trim levels are coming with sunroofs these days.

Sedans have had their roof lines lowered for the last decade.and a half. It is now considered acceptable to make the rear section of the roof so low that adults cannot sit in the second row. No wonder practical people are buying CUVs.

Totally agree! I really want the XLE with premium package but I don't want the panoramic sunroof. I heard it cause more noise into the cabin.

Are there any dealer installed accessories required to pay?

Are you getting it with Pano roof? I wouldn't mind it but I heard Pano rood makes the cabin more noisy. Do you know?

Yeah the style didn’t kill them. They were killed by the rising popularity of SUVs like many other sedans. Plus the later model of the Taurus got bigger outside but not inside, it became a less attractive vehicle.

there was negative feedback so they toned it down on the refresh

Number 1 selling car for the 1996 and 97 years.

I saw it walmart when I bought my ow16 fir my camry

How is making hybrids the regular offering smart? Once the hybrid batteries give up it's thousands to replace and then there's the hybrid braking system that if it fails will cost as much as replacing the whole hybrid batteries. I had a Prius that hit 160K miles with no issues but once the batteries and brake recharging systems failed, the cost to replace both was almost $10K. I traded it for a regular Camry, my Prius lasted 10 years trouble free but the little money I saved on gas was less than half of what it would cost to get my Prius running normal again, NOT worth it. Meanwhile my uncle still has his old 1999 Camry with over 360K miles which he uses to drive to work everyday, and he paid $10K back then because it was pre owned. Paying $10K for a car that's 25 years old and still running, sounds like a better investment than I got for my Prius.

It’s really only TNGA F

Wind noise has always been a problem. Our 2014 Lexus has the same wind noise problem by the windows.

Only TNGA F” ? I’m in GA. 😢 what is the ‘F’?

I had a Toyota service advisor told me to wait a year or two to buy a new Camry. He said theyre riddled with issues. Nothing major. But the few theyve sold have been coming in multiple times with issues.

I’ve owned both. The Camry is cheaper and more reliable. The accord is very reliable. The accord is way more fun to drive and more fun to work on yourself. If you just want an appliance buy the Camry. I prefer the accord.

He’s either drunk or high. Also he is totally past his prime and should retire.

Nice mature comment that really adds to the conversation. Let us know when you get your braces taken off and maybe have a few brain cells to come up with more intelligent comments

That's what they usually say. However, in the case of Toyotas, they say the tech isn't always that new, just repackaged, so the first year is considered dependable.

25 is the same as the 24 . slightly different sheet metal

@@davidm5707 even Toyota has problems with first model year, But very little mechanical actually changes so we’ll still be more reliable than a lot of other brands. For me, it’s worth the risk to have the latest car m. If you want the most reliable wait a year.

@@davidm5707 I SAY WAIT! Rav4 had problems initially & Crown's first reliability wasn't great.

2014 Highlander hybrid V6 using 0W20. No oil consumption issues.

that's why you get the hybrid instead of the turbo 😉

no. it's perfectly safe. you don't need heavy oil for protection.

It's a bit more expensive. I think having in stock if you do your own oil 🛢chages will be a concern.

😂😂😂

So what? This is an informal chat not a polished presentation.

Well my last 3 cars did/do talk to me, but they are not very good conversationalist.

It’s been like that since 2018

So buy an LE. Its a great car and much less expensive than $40K.

They figure if you want to sit higher you’ll get a Crown or a RAV4 etc. The new Prius is even lower.

100% agree!

I need to sit higher because I have a bad back. Im slim, 5'10 and test drove the SE. Headroom was fine, nothing noticeable. but I want the XSE with the panoramic. Based on what these guys are saying, It's clear I need to test drive the exact car with moonroof it before ordering. Camry drove great though. I drive crazy in my 2014 civic, and I can continue in a Camry.

Absolutely, the Crown would be an alternative, but with no heads up display, I'm not pay 50K. Best deal was the Venza.

Would you HAVE to replace the battery pack though? Or would the car operate like a regular ICE vehicle with a dead battery pack?

The battery packs last longer the the ice engines now.

@@FJBomb There are Camry hybrids with 500,000 miles (taxis) that have not replaced the battery pack. Now the have after market batteries & some places replace the bad cells.

The new Camry is not a plug in hybrid. It recharges through regen braking and alternator.

Soon you will say that for all the major manufacturers when ICE vehicles are reduced to sports cars. Better keep up with the times.

The Camry still gets 600 miles of range on a tank. A prius has an 11.3 gallon tank and can do 600 miles. I think that is plenty. The larger gas tank- the more weight and less cargo room... smaller trunk or no spare tire.

You can buy a hybrid in many different form factors. Your choice of CUV, truck, sedan, compact hatch. Nah, you don't want an ICE or BEV. Look at this shiny GR Corolla.

Because everyone calls them chargers, and you use them as such, even though as you say they are basically extension cords.

I think they missed the whole point of the question. If you buy a L1 or L2 CCS port charger today and your car gets supported by Tesla for NACS conversion or comes with an onboard NACS connector it would be silly looking for a CCS style EVSE. It might be prudent for most to just hang on to just L1 until their vehicle is supported by NACS adapters and buy a J3400 L2 adapter that would stay with the vehicle instead of swapping back and forth between CCS and NACS.

Agreed, he had some good things to say, but maybe he should stay behind the keyboard and not the mic.

It’s kept because the suspension is still firmer than the XLE. Not to mention the previous generation also had a hybrid XSE.

Thank the EPA. Try and find any new car, except a low power econobox with tiny ICE, that is not hybrid now. It is virtually required now by the govt to meet federal milage mandates.

On any car.

Just don’t buy a used hybrid with a lot of miles

That’s true of any car hybrid or not. Anyway why would you skip maintenance on your car, warranty or not?

Toyota first 2 years maintenance included free. My local dealer includes 3rd year free

How do you know they take money from manufacturers? They always say they don't. That's why they buy the cars anonymously, or rent them, as they did these. I think someone has fed you a line of bs.

Gee a video of self-absorbed beta's talking around a table...BORING

@@davidm5707 they o longer say that. They actually state manufacturers can advertise their reviews if they pay a fee. They explained that in an issue of their magazine. I used to be a member for 30 years, but quit after they did this.

Toyota has negative net earnings in the last 13 years?

Not true, in addition to Nort America, Toyota is killing it in the Middle East. Asia and Africa. Not as much in Europe but still high demand.

Do it. Any society has some fools around that the normal people can laugh about.

@@codincoman9019you’re on another level of stupid. With a Camry: -You can’t sit in your car with heat or air without running the engine -you get the intrusion of engine noise -you can’t have a full tank every morning -you can’t have dog mode -you can’t charge your phone without the engine running -you can’t go without oil changes -it’s slow -it doesn’t get over the air updates -you can’t play games on the screen -it doesn’t drive itself -the whole car shudders and vibrates from the engine running -It doesn’t get over 100 miles per gallon -acceleration comes with God awful engine noise, shifts and is slow and not instant -the tailpipe is lethal Tesla model 3 is better in every way with the safest cash protection in the world and is built to the same standard everywhere

Excellent. The EVangelists should feel dumb as the BEV scam becomes obvious. Btw, the CO2 is no pollutant, it is the greenery's food, giving us the O2 - didn't you learn this in school? or you've been paying attention to the lgbtqetc. bs instead?

If I was a manufacturer I wouldn’t want a lot of pressure to make something people are not going to buy! Dealers of different brands have lots full of EVs that can’t sell.

you need a kleenex ?

Honda did worse to the Accord. The Camry is great in comparison.