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204: China’s Solar Power Progress - A Bright Spot? 

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@passby8070
@passby8070 6 месяцев назад
I understand alot of westerners are been feed with lots of papaganda by the media so theres also that negativity and over critical mind about anything Chinese. I can tell you that on the ground, the black outs are way over blown, it happened just one period and power has been stabled ever since. Electric Power is extremely cheap in China at about a 5th of the Australian price. In the case of the massive solar projects, its is China's long term energy strategy and taking advantage of China's extraordinary growth in production in the solar panel manufacturing.
@wedgeantilles1932
@wedgeantilles1932 6 месяцев назад
I just can't abide the treatment of the Uyghurs.
@tallest4eva
@tallest4eva 6 месяцев назад
​@@wedgeantilles1932But many in the West seem to be willing to abide and subsidize the treatment of Palestinians. Go figure.
@olderchin1558
@olderchin1558 6 месяцев назад
​​@@wedgeantilles1932You should come down from your high horse and ground yourself in reality. The greatest genocide in modern history was in North America and Australia, the only reason it ended was the genocide did its job. Try going to Xinjiang yourself and count the Uighurs on the street, even the cops there are Uighurs and there is nothing stopping anyone from visiting Xinjiang. Then compare that to the number native Americans and Australian in their respective cities. And if you think that is forgotten history, compared the graves of Arabs killed by western powers to the numbers killed by China's war on terror. You can actually count the graves from 10 years ago using satellite pictures. Dissidents and Activists will lie about everything to stay in your country and live off your tax dollars.
@michaelporter6341
@michaelporter6341 6 месяцев назад
@@olderchin1558 Well said. No one from the US can moralize about genocide. Millions have died in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Palestine and all over North Africa in the last 30 years alone by their hand. The Uighur thing is just propaganda and many are learning not to trust MSMedia in the west any more on that account.
@user-qi6lq2ci3r
@user-qi6lq2ci3r 6 месяцев назад
Great discussion chaps - lots of great points highlighted. 😁
@victorjre
@victorjre 6 месяцев назад
It is never not disappointing to listen to a science channel use miles and feets.
@CDTsuiPo
@CDTsuiPo 6 месяцев назад
The Chinese government set up a carbon neutral program and then moved toward that goal without so much politics. It's also a small project compared to the rest of China's energy use. And this project is a key step in the ecological management of the Kubuqi Desert. The photovoltaic plant requires fresh water, but at the same time significantly reduces local evaporation, reduces sand and dust, and allows for the development of eco-agriculture underneath the photovoltaic panels, so that the former desert can potentially be turned into an oasis, while boosting the local economy at the same time. Very interesting point, the Kubuqi Desert is located in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region has China's largest coal reserves, and are easy to mine.
@loeysf
@loeysf 6 месяцев назад
Kubuqi should be pronounced as KU-bu-chi or KU-bu-ch(y)i (very soft y sound)
@RyuuKageDesu
@RyuuKageDesu 6 месяцев назад
Wrapping the earth in solar collectors... Sounds like the opposite of a dyson sphere.
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 6 месяцев назад
It's the old story of the carrot in the stick, America's been using the stick forever in China's using the carrot.
@gemelwalters2942
@gemelwalters2942 6 месяцев назад
Well as long as we ppl keep thinking "stick" means authoritarianism then that's not likely to change. Every state seems to be living in their own pocket with its own reality and identity. People will push back on a lot of these ideas just to give a middle finger to the "other" team. It's nonsensical
@passby8070
@passby8070 6 месяцев назад
great session, "qi" is pronounced as "chi"
@charlesrovira5707
@charlesrovira5707 6 месяцев назад
@13:31 There is enough raw material, (copper and aluminum for electrical distribution and fiber optic cabling and LEO satellites for communication,) that can be used for a worldwide power and communication network. The distances are not that great either. *Quebec, Canada* solved the problems of long-distance (over 1,000 miles ) power transmission using high-voltage DC.
@alfred-vz8ti
@alfred-vz8ti 6 месяцев назад
prc is a bright spot, in many ways, it comes from having bright national officers who regard national prosperity as a primary objedctive. usa politicians are fixated on their positions, and bribable. indeed, they must seek money to stay in office, what a curious way to run a nation!
@marktrinidad7650
@marktrinidad7650 6 месяцев назад
Lots of bad stuff that comes with what China is doing? Im curious on what are those stuff.
@chopinmack5418
@chopinmack5418 3 месяца назад
China is working on One Belt One Road , on Trades & Infrastructure projects . The US is working on One Bomb One Road , on Wars & Bad Mouthing China . Many of the bad stuff are coming from the MSM . Go to China and check it out in person .
@radioactivegorgon2307
@radioactivegorgon2307 6 месяцев назад
库布齐 would be pronounced more like 'koo' 'boo' and an aspirated 'chi' or Kùbùqí in pinyin I'm impressed by China's long-term projects, particularly in renewable energy, and efforts and hope it isn't hampered by some (less productive) nationalistic social currents. There are many shameful accusations presented in public anglosphere channels that seem to me more about distracting from their own country's (and political platform's) failures than cogently seeking to correct a moral arc. It certainly isn't helped by some of the McCarthyite efforts, including sham spy trials in the U.S., employed trying to "stop China". Wikipedia has some of them listed in its anti-Chinese sentiment page iirc.
@youdodat2
@youdodat2 6 месяцев назад
Nuts
@Treksh
@Treksh 6 месяцев назад
Hahahha yeah the newer coal power plants are the coke and the old ones are the heroin whereas new renewables are coffee and tea .
@samuelfeguer
@samuelfeguer 6 месяцев назад
Californians suffering drought? This must have been recorded a week ago.....😉
@rklauco
@rklauco 6 месяцев назад
This nit-picking on green tech is very funny. Nobody seems to care about how to recycle gas or coal power plants, but THOSE HORRIBLE PANELS OR WIND TURBINE BLADES!!!
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 6 месяцев назад
Hahaha!
@brianmullins3805
@brianmullins3805 6 месяцев назад
At about 16:30 you mention pollutant reduction by doing X vs. Y. This is something I have wondered (read: assumed): Doesn't the pressure to move to EV's just move the pollution caused by gas powered vehicles from the cities they run in to the cities the electricity is generated in? Solar is getting bigger, but aren't we still mostly dependent on coal and LNG generation in the US? Is the relationship between vehicle pollution and these plants offsetting?
@theunknownunknowns5168
@theunknownunknowns5168 6 месяцев назад
Efficiencies of scale. Assuming you are genuine, I can answer that. A ice car is something like 20-30% efficient, most of the energy in the fuel is lost. A purpose built huge gas or coal plant is probably upwards of 80% efficient at turning fuel to electricity. Electric vehicles are 90%+. A electric car running on the dirtiest coal still has lower emissions than a equivalent ice vehicle. Like for like ev's are vastly cleaner. My country is 90% renewables electricity generation. I can see where my cars electricity is generated by wind turbines in the hills around my small city.
@glennjgroves
@glennjgroves 6 месяцев назад
And the entire electricity generation system is swapping to clean generation. Every EV gets cleaner every time a fossil fuel plant is replaced by clean generation. Eventually EVs will be close to completely clean when being driven.
@tallest4eva
@tallest4eva 6 месяцев назад
If you are honestly asking this question without an emotional or political bias telling you what kind of information you want to hear. US electricity generation in 2010: Coal 45% LNG 24% Renewables 10% US electricity generation in 2022: Coal 19% LNG 40% Renewables 21% And this change happened in ONLY 12years in a massive country like the US. What would it be by 2030? 2040? The US electricity grid is FAR cleaner than it was. And is only going to get cleaner. With ICE, there is NO path to clean! NONE. In 2030? Still using oil. 2040? Same. For EVs, there is a path, and it is happening and accelerating. Solar, wind and batteries are getting cheaper. It really is a no-brainer. And what has happened in the US is sad. Basically oil companies lobbied their paid politicians, to make renewables a cultural/political issue, to protect their interests, and half of the country fell for it.
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 6 месяцев назад
​@@theunknownunknowns5168 "Typical thermal efficiency for utility-scale electrical generators is around 37% for coal and oil-fired plants,[7] and 56 - 60% (LEV) for combined-cycle gas-fired plants." - Wikipedia.
@OlleHellman
@OlleHellman 6 месяцев назад
How are you handeling missinformation from China about their energy plans? So much can be propaganda and not at all true.
@glennjgroves
@glennjgroves 6 месяцев назад
Clean energy generation - once built - can literally be seen in satellite images. There is really no doubt about what has already been built. As for future plans, I would argue that every politician is a bit… unreliable. Propaganda is not limited to dictatorships like China.
@olderchin1558
@olderchin1558 6 месяцев назад
I think you getting nothing from this discussions. Try doing a little bit of research instead just listening to your favorite politician or activists. Stuff like dams, solar panels, nuclear PP and wind farms are visible from space. Not to mention the plethora of such Chinese installations all over the world.
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