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21 Cringeworthy Errors in the Movie TOP GUN 

Ward Carroll
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Yes, one of the greatest aviation movies of all time, but full of technical errors nonetheless. (I KNOW it's just Hollywood, but we care about tech details here, especially when they apply to the F-14.) Ward reviews the 21 most cringeworthy among them. WARNING: Once you watch this episode you may never view TOP GUN the same again.
1. (5:00) RIO’s radar presentation shows a 360-degree PPI presentation. Tomcat’s radar only sweeps 65 degrees either side of the nose. (Wouldn’t want a radar that pointed back at the crews. That would be a huge radiation hazard, to put it mildly.)
2. (8:00) Cougar transmits: “This bogey’s all over me. He’s got missile lock. Do I have permission to fire?” Well, whatever the ROE, the question is moot until you do some pilot shit and actually maneuver your jet into an offensive.
3. (9:01) As far as Maverick’s “4-G inverted dive” (as Charlie later labels it) goes, if the two airplanes were that close the Tomcat’s vertical stabs would be jammed into the MiG-28.
4. (9:59) Merlin taps on a fuel gauge that doesn’t exist in the rear cockpit of the F-14, only in the front cockpit. (The RIO only has a fuel totalizer.)
5. (10:06) Cougar rips his oxygen mask off to breathe more oxygen, which would be in short supply at high altitude.
6. (10:12) Cougar has a photo of his wife and baby taped over the airspeed gauge to the left of the altimeter.
7. (12:27) There’s no way Cougar wouldn’t have been waved off by the Landing Signal Officer based on that wild approach. He gets at least five “power” calls during the pass. The Air Boss would have been very unhappy with the LSO after that.
8. (12:51) Cougar traps and immediately shuts the jet down instead of taxiing out of the landing area. Maverick is still airborne, low on gas, and needs to land but can’t now because Cougar has fouled the landing area and has to be towed out of the wires.
9. (13:00) Nice stateroom for a squadron CO. (He’s an 0-5, fer crissakes.) And later in the scene he says, “You can tell me about the MiG some other time” and dismisses the crew to head for Top Gun, thereby committing professional suicide by not getting the only information that anyone above him in the chain of command would care about that particular day.
10. (16:06) “Um, tower, there’s some dork riding a motorcycle down one of the taxiways shaking his fist at us.”
11. (25:52) A hangar isn’t the most conducive place for detailed flight briefs.
12. (29:53) Smoke effect is actually the Tomcat dumping fuel . . . a stupid idea when you’re about to enter a dogfight.
13. (31:31) Maverick “hits the brakes” by pushing the throttles forward, which would increase power, not decrease it.
14. (35:52) Maverick explains, “We weren’t below the hard deck for more than a few seconds. I had the shot. There was no danger. So I took it.” The hard deck simulates the ground, so basically Maverick is saying, “We didn’t hit the ground for more than a few seconds . . .”
15. (55:31) Why is Hollywood eating an orange on the flight line?
16. (57:26) Logic of the engagement is ridiculous. Maverick lets Jester go and then flies in parade formation behind Hollywood who’s saddled in super-close behind the other bandit. Hollywood whines at Maverick not to leave him when he should just shoot the bandit right in front of him, and then Maverick leaves to go after Viper and ultimately winds up getting shot because Goose does a shitty job of looking behind them for bad guys (at 59:23).
17. (1:06:56) Goose says “Shit, we got a flameout. Engine 1 is out.” The RIO has no engine instruments in the rear cockpit of the F-14.
18. (1:07:13) Iceman transmits, “Mav’s in trouble. He’s in a flat spin and headed out to sea.” When an airplane is in a flat spin it is not heading anywhere except straight down.
19. (1:26:50) Aviators wouldn’t get orders at the Top Gun graduation. They’d get them via a frustrating process of arguing with their detailers via email and the occasional phone call over the period of a few months.
20. (1:39:47) Maverick leads a two-plane fly-by next to the carrier with a wingman that’s been riddled with bullets and most likely has sustained major damage to the hydraulic system that powers the flight controls.
21. (1:41:14) Iceman says, “You can be my wingman any time,” which ignores the fact that unless he’s the ops officer or schedule officer or squadron CO who signs the flight schedule then he just needs to suck it up and fly with whoever he’s assigned to fly with.
We’re all looking forward to TOP GUN MAVERICK and the trailer teases the idea that the F-14 might just still be part of the fighter inventory . . . we’ll have to see.
For a longer list of TOP GUN movie flaws see: www.military.c...

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Комментарии : 3,8 тыс.   
@markdavis3346
@markdavis3346 3 года назад
I was the controlling LSO for “Cougar’s” pass. Filmed behind Carl Vinson in W-291. The actual pilot was LT Ben Schneider from VF-51. If you watch the video he starts rocking his wings hard for Hollywood and the spoilers dumped tons of lift immediately and he started coming down like a safe, very evident in the video.I gave him one hard power call and immediately waved him off. I was seriously afraid he might hit the water. If you watch the belly camera video you can see the waveoff lights. And no, he didn’t trap on that pass.
@jamesbruce1183
@jamesbruce1183 3 года назад
Flat spin sequence - Goose says "Engine one is out" The following video shows engine 2 losing thrust.
@CaliforniaFly
@CaliforniaFly 3 года назад
I'd like to see a Monty Python version of Top Gun. Heck, maybe I'll do it myself.
@michaelc9155
@michaelc9155 3 года назад
@@CaliforniaFly Hot shots! is (almost) what you are looking for
@CaliforniaFly
@CaliforniaFly 3 года назад
@@michaelc9155 Roger Dead Meat!
@fcaughli
@fcaughli 3 года назад
Yeah I noticed that also, surprised Ward didn't mention it, but there were probably quite a few more anyway. The movie after my one foray was plenty for me.
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 3 года назад
that always bugged me too!
@ILSRWY4
@ILSRWY4 3 года назад
I saw an interview with the pilots who flew the Tomcat scenes in the movie The Final Countdown, and they too, laughed at the inaccuracies in Top Gun and mentioned how much more accurate it was in Final Countdown.
@slugmaster64
@slugmaster64 3 года назад
My uncle was a yellow jacket on the Nimitz for the final countdown
@camiller5001
@camiller5001 3 года назад
Fox Ferrall?
@darthinfimus4450
@darthinfimus4450 Год назад
This isn't technical, but I've heard that call signs are almost never really cool and badass like "Maverick" or "Iceman" or "Hollywood"
@paulmartinez8337
@paulmartinez8337 3 года назад
I love his reality of critiquing this movie. I feel the same way when I watch a police story. Amen good job.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
Thanks, Paul.
@Ranter06
@Ranter06 2 года назад
Retired Boatswain's Mate here who always followed aviation and has a reasonably accurate B/S meter, especially when it comes to movies. I've always said the most truthful scene in the whole damn movie was when the officer wanders into CIC at the beginning and greets his fellow officers by first name and the enlisted guys by their last names. Some script writer was paying attention...
@sitbone3
@sitbone3 3 года назад
The Navy got what they wanted. A multi, multi million dollar recruiting ad.
@sitbone3
@sitbone3 3 года назад
@MichaelKingsfordGray …what ?
@TheSwedishSalamander
@TheSwedishSalamander 3 года назад
@MichaelKingsfordGray what the fuck bro
@rockhardnipple6633
@rockhardnipple6633 3 года назад
Between Top Gun and the long running Naval tradition in my family, it hooked me too. (Grandfather, mother, father and 5 uncles all served in the Navy)
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 3 года назад
@@rockhardnipple6633 that sir is one hell of a tradition!
@robm321
@robm321 3 года назад
And considering that 99.9% that sign up to be a pilot end up washing out and doing something else, they get many positions filled, other than pilots. There is never a shortage of people that want to fly. Navy wins.
@53kenner
@53kenner 3 года назад
As a Machinists' Mate, I was always bothered by ALL the catapults failing on a carrier AT THE SAME TIME! Trust me, if the designers of Nimitz class carriers worshipped one god, it was Redundancy.
@Datsamoutful
@Datsamoutful 3 года назад
No doubt due in no small part to failures like the one on the USS Kitty Hawk, where they were servicing one of the blast shields and forgot to place the mechanical braces. There was a hydraulic (or steam,not sure which) failure and the shield fell, killing one sailor who was working underneath it.
@MOTO809
@MOTO809 3 года назад
But but but... that would have meant more airborne fighters, and Maverick couldn't have been the hero who saved the day. (among probably hundreds of actual inaccuracies) While I find it amusing when people pick apart 80's movies, it's just that... an 80's movie. Comparatively, it's probably the most accurate to life movie ever made in that decade.
@Datsamoutful
@Datsamoutful 3 года назад
@@MOTO809 what about Back to the Future? That was totally realistic. Okay, maybe not, but Breakfast Club was way more accurate than Top Gun.
@ganjabobby
@ganjabobby 3 года назад
“Bullshit ten minutes, this thing will be over in two minutes. Get on it!” Even as a kid, I noticed how that was more to create tension than anything technically factual. Basically they want to convey that there’s no help coming for Ice and Maverick.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 3 года назад
And that is why the Royal Navy uses ski-jumps Nothing to go wrong!
@prism8289
@prism8289 3 года назад
I'm glad you did that quickly and not like Watchmojo or something like that and turned it into 30 minutes.
@IGI_Media
@IGI_Media 3 года назад
@Ward Carroll Disregard his comment, as the RU-vid algorithm uses 10 minutes as the baseline for the classification of clips. Keeping clip length above 10 mins will help you get discovered.
@martinruckdeschel695
@martinruckdeschel695 3 года назад
Would ALL of the catapults be down at the same time?
@siskokidd
@siskokidd 3 года назад
30 = 10 minutes of stated content, 20 minutes of repetition, plus alerting you that you will be given the stated content.
@bjornblackman2337
@bjornblackman2337 3 года назад
And watchmojo is shitty sometimes.
@MrJeffinLodi
@MrJeffinLodi 3 года назад
First thing I noticed. No explaining and the explaining what he just said.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 3 года назад
Number 22: speaking coherently while pulling serious G turns.
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 3 года назад
Good point 👍
@klk1900
@klk1900 3 года назад
My mom pulls +12g and -6gs flying her aerobatic plane with no g suit and you would never know. Also all of her friends do the same thing. They maintain calm communication walking the back seat threw what’s taking place. It’s all about tolerance. My passion is helicopters but I do fly fw crop dusting and extra 300s as well. My dad flew in the navy and then nasa. My mom gives him shit about he doesn’t like negative gs at all. He comes unglued at -1g. Not uncommon I’ve found with military pilots. Something about being allergic to -gs.
@radugabrielpopa
@radugabrielpopa 3 года назад
@@klk1900 given this is the internet, proof of that?
@greif1779
@greif1779 3 года назад
@@klk1900 proof?
@ace7843
@ace7843 3 года назад
@@klk1900 maximum rated G pull for a fighter jet with G-suit=9 sure you can pull more but chances are you’ll only be doing that for a couple weeks
@wpmulligan
@wpmulligan 3 года назад
My father was an RIO in Phantoms starting in the mid 1960's. He used to say that Top Gun was one of the greatest comedies put to film.
@ace7843
@ace7843 3 года назад
I love the f-4
@EK-gr9gd
@EK-gr9gd 3 года назад
There are two reasons, and two reasons only to watch "Top Gun". First the F-14, second the music.
@jeffreymoore7729
@jeffreymoore7729 2 года назад
The biggest laugh was during the set of Top Gun Tom Cruise try to lay down a large sum of money in order to fly the plane himself! he got damn near laughed off the base by base commander what a joker (3rd party resources from a sailor friend who got to work on the set/ I was not present)
@coryjamesc
@coryjamesc 2 года назад
Well In Maverick he does get to fly
@jeffreymoore7729
@jeffreymoore7729 2 года назад
All time favorite, Coolest aircraft ever!
@ajwilson605
@ajwilson605 Год назад
My first thoughts when I watched "Top Gun" in the theatre release was, "How does "Maverick" get away with riding his Kawasaki Ninja in California without a helmet?" California was one of the first states with a mandatory helmet law, that came out in the '70's. I was enlisted Navy from '78 to '85 and just to enter SSC/NTC, North Island, or San Diego Naval Station you had to be wearing a DOT certified helmet. The Navy required helmets before the State of California.
@scotthill7927
@scotthill7927 3 года назад
I’m a nurse and this is the exact reasons why I don’t watch medical shows on tv. It drives me crazy!!!
@dlee1947
@dlee1947 3 года назад
Any Tech movie, SciFi, Aviation, Medical, Space Travel will drive anybody nuts with all the errors in them. All one can say about Hollywood is that they make movies: Good, Bad, and, Ugly. Space travel is my great complaint.
@guhalakshmiratan5566
@guhalakshmiratan5566 3 года назад
Ditto! And the thing is - they have consultants. I understand "artistic license" but some of it is way too egregious and comes across as ridiculous (like "sedating" some one by jabbing them in the 'juggular' vein - perpendicular to the vein by the way - and using the wrong drug to boot! And forget ambu-bag, monitors etc!)
@BTillman48
@BTillman48 3 года назад
Yes! My wife's an RN and she's always yelling at the screen whether it's ER or something else: "DON'T LEAVE THE BED RAILS DOWN!"
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 3 года назад
@@dlee1947 The only modern aviation movie that even comes close is 'Sully'.
@main199
@main199 3 года назад
@@dlee1947 One word, Armageddon, excruciating movie.
@David-ty1xz
@David-ty1xz 3 года назад
If you want to see a 100% accurate movie, watch Office Space.
@garrisonnichols7372
@garrisonnichols7372 3 года назад
🤣👍 Yep!
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 3 года назад
2006: Idiocracy is satire! 2021: Wanna bet?
@altratronic
@altratronic 3 года назад
...or Clerks.
@rdablock
@rdablock 3 года назад
not even accurate, you'd get hauled to jail a day or week after pulling the money-skimming shit
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 3 года назад
I didn't need a million dollars and I ain't anything much to look at. ;)
@bigginsd1
@bigginsd1 3 года назад
I thought every body was aware at this point that Top Gun is as realistic representation of Fighter Pilots as Indiana Jones is of Archeologists.
@eoincaomhanach1983
@eoincaomhanach1983 3 года назад
as someone who worked in archaeology and studied archaeology, i love this comment lol
@ChrisandEileen
@ChrisandEileen 3 года назад
This movie is no different than how Backdraft was for Firemen.. We all joked about it while in the theatre.
@rossbrumby1957
@rossbrumby1957 3 года назад
It is...... compared to Hot Shots. All things are relative.
@johnjones5354
@johnjones5354 3 года назад
Top Gun is to fighter pilots as Days of Thunder is to stock car drivers. Appropriate since they are the same exact movie, just different settings.
@johnjones5354
@johnjones5354 3 года назад
@@ChrisandEileen Or The China Syndrome is for nuclear professionals. One of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
@richardshipman2964
@richardshipman2964 3 года назад
As a former squadron safety officer, I was really impressed that the accident investigation team completed the complex investigation in what - one month?
@PeterJavi
@PeterJavi 2 года назад
They clearly hired NCIS, so they could get the whole investigation done within the week
@AKStovall
@AKStovall 2 года назад
fastest accident investigation ever. I guess when everyone gives the information, and the FDR is recovered and reviewed... oh what am I saying... the Navy can't do anything that quickly...
@waynefletcher9884
@waynefletcher9884 2 года назад
Yes Hollywood can finish investigations in 15 minutes 😳
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 2 года назад
Yea they got the accident investigation done in a couple of days and somehow Maverick got another plane. Maybe they have extra planes at Miramar. I was 21 when it came out and I saw that movie at least 10 times before buying the VHS tape.
@davidrendall7195
@davidrendall7195 2 года назад
If you listen to a later scene where Maverick has been cleared by the investigation, returned to flight duty and had trouble getting "back in the saddle" Viper reminds Jester the accident had been "only a few days!". I thought omnipotence was the preserve of wives and senior NCOs.
@topgunaircraftsales4408
@topgunaircraftsales4408 3 года назад
Nice Job Ward, Error 22 there is no "Topgun Trophy" at least not when I went thru in F-4's in 81. Soupy
@joemoore4027
@joemoore4027 3 года назад
I like the frontal shots of the pilot sitting in the ejection seat with the brass unlocking tool in place (behind his head on the left side) . The tool was used to unlock the seat from the rails when you pulled the seat out. Having worked for Grumman on Long Island building all models of the Tomcat the employees picked the movie to death, loads of fun.
@dash5257
@dash5257 3 года назад
It's called a star wheel. I was a ejection seat mechanic for the A6 Intruder. We laughed when we saw the star wheel on the seat
@johngarroch
@johngarroch 3 года назад
I was a tech on ejection seats. Hunter, Buccaneers, Jaguar and Tornado. We called that brass tool a top latch plunger wheel. I was surprised that the seat didn’t fall when they went inverted. 😂Great movie though.
@karlking6427
@karlking6427 2 года назад
I was an AME in VF-102 (‘93-‘98)and VX-9 Det. (‘98-‘00), and every time I see the star wheel, it’s like Dorothy looking behind the curtain.
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 2 года назад
GRUMMAN IRON WORKS! You built some beautiful birds, Sir. 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 Год назад
No wonder Goose died!
@JamesSkools
@JamesSkools 3 года назад
When I was a kid my dad was stationed in Miramar. He liked to point out the scene where Mavrick and Charlie meet in an elevator. There were no elevators there...
@hfuy8005
@hfuy8005 3 года назад
That was, if memory serves, a reshoot. They'd have shot at the production company's offices, or something, and dubbed some engine noise on. That's why Kelly McGillis has her hair stuffed under a baseball cap - she'd dyed it red for a subsequent role. Same reason behind the blue light in the bedroom scene.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 2 года назад
And not only that, someone matched the Pings with the opening and closing of the elevator doors and found out that in one instance everybody exits through a closed door! 😂
@roycelabor4339
@roycelabor4339 3 года назад
Great job Ward! I'm a retired Army officer & was teaching ROTC at The Citadel when Top Gun came out. I was the enrollment officer for the Army detachment & asked my Navy counterparts what impact the movie had on their enrollment. They were not fans because all of the cadets enrolling in the Navy program wanted to be Tomcat pilots which hardly met the "needs of the Navy." We laughed because we'd gone through the same thing with Rambo, everyone wanted to be a Green Beret.
@robbyddurham1624
@robbyddurham1624 2 года назад
The recruiters have to have something to lie about to get the 18 year old kids to sign up.
@johnm8961
@johnm8961 3 года назад
Number 22. Tom Cruze had to sit on a phone book to see out the window.
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 года назад
Oh snap --- I was scrolling down to find a joke about Cruise's height
@completewith7
@completewith7 3 года назад
Would TC even be tall enough to be a fighter pilot?
@ivanlowjones
@ivanlowjones 3 года назад
Cruze or Cruise?😖
@huddma69
@huddma69 3 года назад
@@completewith7 Pilot (seated) height can be a disadvantage with g-force "resistance". Not too mention you need to be able to fit in the cockpit. A tall pilot would have to fly a slower plane. Chad Hennings, a 6’6” defensive tackle who played the Dallas Cowboys out of the Air Force Academy had fly a warthog. He was too tall to be a fighter pilot.
@spudeleven5124
@spudeleven5124 3 года назад
LOL
@antoniog9814
@antoniog9814 3 года назад
4:32 "Tower, there's some dork riding a motorcycle down the taxiway shaking his fist at us, and he's not wearing the appropriate safety vest." LOL
@Rhojin83
@Rhojin83 3 года назад
Or a helmet.
@JohnGuzik
@JohnGuzik 3 года назад
@@Rhojin83 White t-shirt not authorized as outer garment.
@Hopdvil
@Hopdvil 3 года назад
I never put that together and I’ve had to go through base motorcycle safety training.
@williamnett
@williamnett 3 года назад
Fun fact... Tom Cruise wasn't in control of the motorcycle. During that scene it was attached to the back of a movie truck.
@jemakrol
@jemakrol 3 года назад
Or helmet, for that matter. But hey, at those speeds it's ok. What could happen? It's not like he's flying! :D
@Muzikteechur
@Muzikteechur 3 года назад
When Maverick is riding alongside the jet taking off, you can see the tie-down strap on the front of the Kawasaki as well as the bed of the truck he's riding on. Still a great movie.
@blueskys6265
@blueskys6265 3 года назад
wow man, good observation.
@shannonchurchill4556
@shannonchurchill4556 3 года назад
I said that on another comment. That and the ham-fisted use of the clutch
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 3 года назад
Immediately upon rewatching it, right after the raised fist, he blips the clutch handle and the bike doesn't react at all... amazing the things you fail to notice in the theater. I guess that's the filmmaker's art, eh?
@the_once-and-future_king.
@the_once-and-future_king. 3 года назад
To be fair, Jester should have been reprimanded for deliberately diving to the arbitrary hard deck simply because he didn't want Maverick to get a 'kill'. Unless it was a Soviet technique to fly into the ground rather than be shot down?
@agp11001
@agp11001 3 года назад
"You see Ivan, if you goings into ground like this, Americans can never shoot you down because you are below ground. Profit for glorious Motherland!"
@the_once-and-future_king.
@the_once-and-future_king. 3 года назад
@@agp11001 Holy crap I just immediately read that with a Russian accent!!
@jbx1967
@jbx1967 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@662wc5
@662wc5 3 года назад
In Soviet Russia, hard deck breaks you!
@rocketmann8333
@rocketmann8333 3 года назад
LMAO...
@markbeyea4063
@markbeyea4063 3 года назад
How about the fact that the "MIG 28" is completely fictional?
@Charliechorizo
@Charliechorizo 3 года назад
That's only what the public thinks.
@zhasnogirls
@zhasnogirls 3 года назад
u probably know this but the name is fictional but its actually a f5 with black paint
@caradellinowazer2988
@caradellinowazer2988 3 года назад
@@zhasnogirls close, but still a miss, the twin seater F-5 is called T-38 😉
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 3 года назад
How about the fact that if you look properly the MiG 28 changes from a single seater to a twin seater several times during the movie?
@eliasschanz6659
@eliasschanz6659 3 года назад
@@B-A-L that’s pretty normal. A lot of jets come in multi and single seat config’s so that makes some sense
@gregrtodd
@gregrtodd 2 года назад
Fantastic debrief. Thanks! I'd add one more thing to that list: 4B Even if the RIO had a fuel gauge in the back, what would be the point of tapping on an electronic gauge? Was he worried that the LEDs had become stuck?
@mikepowers171
@mikepowers171 3 года назад
I’ve seen this movie maybe 40 times since childhood (37 now) and I never noticed the damn orange Hollywood is eating until this video 😂😂
@Toncor12
@Toncor12 3 года назад
It will bug you for the next 140 viewings!! That radar spinning is gonna freak me out when I watch it for the 63rd time :)
@vinceboston7451
@vinceboston7451 3 года назад
Orange= DEATH (See The Godfather) 🍊🍊🍊☠️☠️☠️
@PelenTan
@PelenTan 3 года назад
That's because it wasn't in the movie originally. It's a Mandela effect. Hey... I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't add in a conspiracy theory at some point.
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 3 года назад
I did... often wondered about that one too! It's about the same as cruise eating an apple as a JAG during a high-level meeting, in a few good men...
@koori3085
@koori3085 3 года назад
No shit, we're even same age, talk about FOD, fruity object debris!
@bobc733
@bobc733 3 года назад
The most laughable thing about Top Gun is that apparently flying close to a MIG fighter jet can get you laid
@mikaelbiilmann6826
@mikaelbiilmann6826 3 года назад
That says more about the lady then.... 😄
@Whiskey11Gaming
@Whiskey11Gaming 3 года назад
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 not going to lie, if a lady knows what a MiG is, that's pretty hot! ;)
@sasakalak4681
@sasakalak4681 3 года назад
there is nothing laughabla about Top Gun
@chipm2544
@chipm2544 3 года назад
Now she is for the other team. Had a nice restaurant in Key West, at least many years ago.
@aaronweiser5421
@aaronweiser5421 3 года назад
Alsoe that volleyball scene was all fake, they brought in a truck load of sand and a net,when production finished they dismantled it and that was the end of it.
@trob1173
@trob1173 3 года назад
When one of the F-14s is shutting off one of its engines, the Vulcan 20mm in the nose is shown firing. That always annoyed me along with the throttle getting shoved forward to "hit the brakes."
@legodragonxp
@legodragonxp 3 года назад
Yep, was coming here to say that as well.
@michaelwerkov3438
@michaelwerkov3438 3 года назад
is this show in this video? i want to see, but i dont know where to look lol
@legodragonxp
@legodragonxp 3 года назад
@@michaelwerkov3438 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iakSFXk4ypI.html At about 6:23 or 6:24
@rickyokogawa6154
@rickyokogawa6154 3 года назад
That is the slowest firing M61 I’ve seen. Also seeing the AIM 9 coming off of the same rail twice! Otherwise a fun movie to watch!
@chrisaskin6144
@chrisaskin6144 3 года назад
There is a flying sequence scene in the cockpit, where you can see over the pilot's left shoulder, that the top latch wheel is installed in the ejection seat. The top latch wheel is a specialist tool which enables the armourers to remove and refit ejection seats - it's screwed into the top latch to withdraw a spring loaded plunger which lock's the seat to the ejection gun. It is ALWAYS carried in the toolkit, and is only used to remove the seat and place it on a maintenance stand. And of course to remove the seat from the stand and refit back in the cockpit - whereupon it is unscrewed immediately and placed back in the toolkit. If an aircraft flew with the top latch wheel installed, then the moment the aircraft inverted, the seat would slide off the ejection gun guide rails and probably through the canopy, initiating the barostatic release unit, the drogue gun, the rocket pack and main gun firing unit along the way.
@macblastoff7700
@macblastoff7700 3 года назад
Fave comment here.
@CincinnatiDan
@CincinnatiDan 3 года назад
Probably the best part of the internet is learning from real people with real experience. Thanks!
@JeffMTX
@JeffMTX 3 года назад
dayum, good eye!
@saphrys
@saphrys 3 года назад
Was an AME. And worked on those seats. Its the one huge mistake I see everytime that movie comes on.
@dash5257
@dash5257 3 года назад
I was a AME and when we saw the Star wheel on the seats we laughed. They gave Tom a flight and the pilot had him puking his guts out lol
@wilfredrivera5963
@wilfredrivera5963 3 года назад
I was laughing my ass off when both planes were flying above each other and not touching tails.
@NaeMuckle
@NaeMuckle 3 года назад
They were inverted
@pppooppoo7763
@pppooppoo7763 3 года назад
@@NaeMuckle thats why they should be touching tails
@TheticCrime
@TheticCrime 3 года назад
@@pppooppoo7763 the Mig 28 tail would be in the middle of the F 14 tails
@662wc5
@662wc5 3 года назад
@@TheticCrime Their canopies are only about two feet apart. Look at photos of an F-14 and compare the height of the vertical stabs to the top of the canopy. See the problem?
@TheticCrime
@TheticCrime 3 года назад
@@662wc5 the discussion is about touching tails ( vert stabs ) since the F 14 is 4meter longer than the F 5, the tails wont touch, the F 5 tail will touch the fuselage before the twin tails
@mitchellkirkwood8772
@mitchellkirkwood8772 3 года назад
I always thought when the CAG/CO/Capitan who gave orders in the CIC the scene before, said "You can tell me about the MIG some other time" and dismisses them to Top Gun and being they were not in the U.S. dogfighting Migs, It would be a day or two before being near enough to a base that's within range of a C-2 Greyhound, so what was the hurry getting them out of his stateroom? They had plenty of time to give him their debrief of why a Mig got within 150 miles of the carrier task force
@jmowreader9555
@jmowreader9555 2 года назад
I suspect the Carrier Air Wing Intelligence Team and the Operations Officer were standing right outside the Squadron CO's door while Maverick was in there getting his butt chewed...when the two of them walked out the door..."Gentleman, we need to talk. Right now."
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 3 года назад
To quote Tony Scott when asked about errors in the details... “I didn’t make the movie for fighter pilots.”
@MoAndAye
@MoAndAye 3 года назад
One of these years somebody is gonna make a movie that whacks the shit out of how a Hollywood director really does their job, and when Hollywood directors whine in all their insider parties throughout the Pacific Palisades, that somebody can piss all over them by paraphrasing Tony Scott. The arrogance of any popcorn movie maker thinking that they can cut and paste together anything more terrorizing than the basic, professional, calm reality of a modern jet fighter cockpit in an actual dogfight....
@JamieSmith-fz2mz
@JamieSmith-fz2mz 3 года назад
@@MoAndAye They made millions. They entertained millions. That was their one and only goal. Not creating a training film or a documentary. Every subject Hollywood touches gets cartoonized for the masses. We all know this going in. They have two hours to tell an elaborate story. They take shortcuts.
@bartacomuskidd775
@bartacomuskidd775 3 года назад
i wouldnt have asked him to detail the type of person he did make it for..
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 3 года назад
@@bartacomuskidd775 that is the short version of the quote, but the gist of his statement was that he made the movie for movie goers who wanted fun action, and not a documentary, he specifically said that he knew fighter pilots wouldn’t like it, but he didn’t make it for them.
@Gamble661
@Gamble661 3 года назад
I'll start by saying that I'm a retired pilot as well and while I never flew the F-14 (wrong branch) I do know a little something about that type of equipment. I love Top Gun and I've obviously known from the first time I saw it in the theatre that it was a tad less than accurate. I can overlook that though because it's such a fun movie. My only gripe here is that he brought up some truly piddly stuff and left out some things that I've always found much more egregious about the movie. Receiving their orders at the Top Gun ceremony for instance; that's never bothered me as much as the inference in that scene that of all the pilots in the entire US Navy, those particular guys are the ONLY ones who can deal with the problem. The pilots that were already on the ship weren't up to snuff? Or the fact that there's a hot blond telling active duty F-14 pilots how to fly their aircraft and what they're doing wrong. Again, needed the hot blond for the plot but come on. Or the story about Maverick's dad as told to him by Viper, anyone else noticed that it made absolutely no sense at all? Just a few plot holes. The tech stuff didn't bother me because most people wouldn't know about it anyway so it's not as in-your-face as things like the above plot holes.
@Black-Opal
@Black-Opal 3 года назад
In a lot of the flying scenes over the ocean, suddenly mountains appear in the background.
@koori3085
@koori3085 3 года назад
There are mountains outside San Diego, just not those mountains! And they go from desert to ocean without crossing Orange Co! 😁
@DanielByrns
@DanielByrns 2 года назад
Missed one I remember the captain saying both catapults were down in the last fight but that carrier had 4.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 года назад
#8. I love at the end of Hot Shots! When Charlie Sheen is trying to land and every one is on the deck celebrating, you hear him over the radio "Hey you wanna get out of the way we are trying to land."
@teejfalconaf
@teejfalconaf 3 года назад
Had I been in the production crew of "Hot Shots", I would have had Sheen call Winchester...land on the carrier....and get serviced (fresh load of missiles) and push-started off the deck by the Penske indy crew.
@SimonRaahauge1973
@SimonRaahauge1973 3 года назад
Hot shots is a 1000 times better than top gun! :oD
@michaelhawker2642
@michaelhawker2642 3 года назад
@@SimonRaahauge1973 Hey I agree with you 1000 percent! Just the fact that Hot Shots was made to "Fly in the face" of top gun made me say YAY!
@Muck006
@Muck006 3 года назад
Most relevant scene from Hot Shots is obviously the "kill count" one from HS2 ... which parodied all 80s action movies as "requiring a bigger kill count than their predecessors". Sadly Hollywood hasnt learned from this yet, but today it is the CGI and not the special effects budget that goes through the roof for sequels to make them "better".
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 года назад
I'm surprised how under-rated "Hot Shots" is --- one of the funniest movies I ever seen --- Lloyd Bridges is hilarious
@Tom-kw6km
@Tom-kw6km 3 года назад
"You! You are still dangerous. But you can be my Motion Picture Technical Advisor anytime." "Bullshit. You can be mine."
@AzrealMaximus
@AzrealMaximus 3 года назад
🤣😂
@scootskute
@scootskute 3 года назад
My dad was a firefighter at the crash house at NASF while the original movie was being filmed. I remember going on base to visit him and I saw a very small blue jet that I had never seen before. I asked my dad about it and he explained that it was a camera jet, and they were making a movie with some young hot shot star. Oh, and the flat spin happened about 15 seconds after we have a clear view of sand mountain, a convenient 300 miles from the nearest ocean beach, and about 500 from Miramar. I always laughed at how far he went while in a flat spin. That's the magic of movies. They film it hundreds of miles from the story's location and only the locals know. Basically, if you don't see the beach or palm trees in the shot, you are probably looking at Nevada.
@Muck006
@Muck006 3 года назад
They also get to "fall" for as long as it takes to say all the dialogue ... instead of "as long as it actually takes".
@tommitchell4570
@tommitchell4570 3 года назад
"Some young hot shot star" --- it's kinda weird that Tom Cruise was only known for dancing in his tighty whiteys before Top Gun came out
@scootskute
@scootskute 3 года назад
@@tommitchell4570 isn't that the truth!?! My dad didn't know him by name, and I'm not sure I did either. I knew The Outsiders, but he was far from top of the bill for that one. I knew Risky business, too, but I'm not sure if I knew his name at that point, though the tighty whiteys scene you mentioned was known to almost anybody. Top Gun was the first of several successful films that made his name a household name that anybody should recognize.
@grondhero
@grondhero 3 года назад
Tom Cruise had been in about half a dozen or so movies beforehand, such as Taps, The Outsiders, and Legend. I remember in middle school when we took a field trip to see Top Gun and all the girls were so excited as we were filing into the theater and screaming when his name came on screen. I didn't recognize him at the time, but apparently the females were well-acquainted with him.
@tommitchell4570
@tommitchell4570 3 года назад
@@grondhero --- Tom Cruise was apparently "hot" in the 80's --- girls were smitten with him --- this was before the Scientology stuff came out
@russ4AGE
@russ4AGE 3 года назад
Yeah, I’ve been in aviation industry for 20 years thanks to this movie. It’s riddled with flaws, but I still love it. Thanks for the great video
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
Thx, Russell
@koori3085
@koori3085 3 года назад
Any chance of a Flight of the Intruder video? Love this one, except for the entire dogfight at the end. Especially when one bogey moves in closer to the other bogeys and then pops up on radar! Thanks a lot for these videos, great fun to hear from a pro! And, thanks for your service! 🇺🇸💪
@scottsee5766
@scottsee5766 3 года назад
Don't dare besmirch that movie! It was straight-up legit!! ;)
@koori3085
@koori3085 3 года назад
@@scottsee5766 It is a great movie, that's why I'd like to see someone review it before the Intruder community dissappears.
@chrisneumann4202
@chrisneumann4202 2 года назад
I didn't fly the A-6 but I was an Avionics Tech from 88-92. Not being a pilot I'm not sure about all of the nuances of actually flying it but as far as the technical details there was a lot of wrong going on. FOTI was set in 1972, a good chunk of the avionics see in the film was not period correct, the paint schemes were all wrong for the carrier scenes, and there were some pilot/BN actions that didn't make sense. For instance, towards the end of the movie I was always curious as to why the pilot decided call BINGO fuel, then turn on the canopy map light...during the day... Either way, still love the movie with all it's flaws. The one thing they did get right is the unique sound of the P&W J-52 engines and the background noises of the carrier.
@watchyourtimeco1
@watchyourtimeco1 3 года назад
"Why is Hollywood eating an orange on the flightline?" That one made me lol
@BobSmith-uu5kj
@BobSmith-uu5kj 3 года назад
:-) made me laugh too… an orange would never take down a fighter engine… they are even supposed to ingest a certain size of birds and keep running fine. Plus if no one can have a short sugar kick before a dogfight :-)
@Spanishfutbol2010
@Spanishfutbol2010 3 года назад
All these years and I’ve never noticed that
@romainepenton1832
@romainepenton1832 3 года назад
@@Spanishfutbol2010 me too
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 3 года назад
Oranges? Never, but gobs and gobs of junk food in paper wrappers? Totally acceptable says every Air Force pilot and crew!
@thomasneedham1512
@thomasneedham1512 3 года назад
Saw an A-7 try to eat a guy on the flight deck once. The A-7s and A-6s had the wicked jet blast that came on the bounce from the deck. Dangerous business being on the flight deck at almost any time.
@280StJohnsPl
@280StJohnsPl 3 года назад
Cringeworthy ! LOL I got the same laughs when I saw "Backdraft", the most utterly ridiculous movie about firefighters
@desertodavid
@desertodavid 3 года назад
Referring to Backdraft, you mean the smoke from a inside a building fire doesn't actually breathe back and forth under a door?? Come on MAN!!
@280StJohnsPl
@280StJohnsPl 3 года назад
@@desertodavid LOL !
@CyberSystemOverload
@CyberSystemOverload 2 года назад
Excellent video! I have a burning question though! This movie was made with US Navy assistance and input - how were these glaring errors not caught whilst the movie crew was literally surrounded by professionals in the field. I mean any pilot (let alone an F14 pilot) would have caught that max throttle to "slow down" error for example.
@DarkLordDiablos
@DarkLordDiablos 2 года назад
I guess you could say that they just didn't care as they knew that most of the people watching wouldn't have that knowledge so wouldn't pick up on it.
@chrisgraeter373
@chrisgraeter373 3 года назад
You can #22 to the list. As a former ABE (Catapults And Arresting Gear ) sailor, the scene at the end where Maverick is being launched from the Alert 5 right before he is launched the hand signal for "Hang Fire" is given and then he is launched. A 'Hang Fire" is when the fire button is pressed by the deck edge crewman or on carriers that have the bubble by the Shooter and the catapult fails to launch the plane. This is a serious situation and a Suspend of the launch would happen and the plane would be moved off the cat and the catapult shut down.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
Good one!
@bigsarge8795
@bigsarge8795 3 года назад
Ok Karen. Picky picky.
@chrisgraeter373
@chrisgraeter373 3 года назад
I”m not a”Karen” just adding to the main subject of this video. Plus since I actually worked, Trained and spent my career working Catapults and arresting gear on carrier I wanted to point out the stupid movie mistake made that Ward also made a list to. So come on give me a break. Also ask yourself who is the really “Karen”? Not me so must be you. just saying!
@bigsarge8795
@bigsarge8795 3 года назад
@@chrisgraeter373 calm down. I just having a little fun. I dont think anyone really took that movie verbatim
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 3 года назад
@@bigsarge8795 Way to fight for ignorance.
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 3 года назад
1) engine flame out... Goose says No1 engine, but from the video, it was the right hand, #2 engine. 2) you should do this with The Final Countdown also!
@elkarlos1
@elkarlos1 3 года назад
Being an F14 fan myself, I have DVDs of both movies, The Finial Countdown is by far the best movie if you love watching F14s flying.
@redsabreanakin
@redsabreanakin 3 года назад
@@elkarlos1 couldnt agree more. I love Top Gun...but the Tomcats vs the Zeroes with John Scotts music? Its just too awesome
@Shrike200
@Shrike200 3 года назад
The Final Countdown is the best F14 movie. I've said it before, I'll say it again....
@kensnyder3311
@kensnyder3311 3 года назад
@@elkarlos1 Love that movie!
@elkarlos1
@elkarlos1 3 года назад
@@kensnyder3311 Ken what did you think of the Supercarrier movies that came out soon after ?
@krazykyfan
@krazykyfan 3 года назад
This was fantastic. I laughed just about the whole time you were presenting this because, as a kid, when you watched this movie, you were in awe. As an adult, you see the glaring flaws in the movie, even though it's still awesome. The same goes for Iron Eagle and all the silly/incorrect/ridiculous inaccuracies you see in that movie, which too is still an awesome aviation movie. Great stuff Ward!
@timg2088
@timg2088 3 года назад
Absolutely correct! Iron Eagle was on a whole different level as far as inaccuracies go. Even as a teen, I found it impossible to swallow the fact a teenager would be allowed anywhere near an F-16. Training or otherwise.
@krazykyfan
@krazykyfan 3 года назад
@@timg2088 Dougie was the man lol.
@timg2088
@timg2088 3 года назад
@@krazykyfan WAS HE?!?!?! And then some! Had free reign of the base, and apparently all fighter aircraft, too! If we just had someone like him in the Pentagon! 😂
@highlander723
@highlander723 3 года назад
No because if they showed what it's like in real life it would be boring.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 2 года назад
Iron Eagle was horrible.
@gregssingletary
@gregssingletary 3 года назад
As a college freshman in 1986 I knew most of these having lived around Pensacola and watching the Blues fly for years. Still loved it and still love it. I recently spent a Saturday night with my Ukrainian goddaughter watching it so she would know why her dad and I say "Negative ghost rider" instead of no to each other.
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 3 года назад
You *really* wanted your Ukrainian goddahgter to know her goddfather's a card-carrying, died in the wool nerd didn't you?
@jbx1967
@jbx1967 3 года назад
You mean "Negative, Maverick." Ghost Rider was a Nicolas Cage movie.
@Lemev
@Lemev 3 года назад
@@jbx1967 did you really watch Top Gun? Or are you just trolling around?
@theodoregirouard7294
@theodoregirouard7294 3 года назад
The part that always bugged me was when Maverick is giving instructions to an angel under attack, "On 3 break right, 1,2,3, break right." I would have broken right on three.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
Right!? Great point.
@jbx1967
@jbx1967 3 года назад
Murtaugh: Wait! Wait. Do we go on 3 or is it 1, 2, 3, and THEN we go? Riggs: It's your ass, Cochise...
@gateway1600
@gateway1600 3 года назад
Boohoo! Buzz kill
@Mike_Costello
@Mike_Costello 3 года назад
@@jbx1967 LOL this was the first thing I thought of when I read the post. Bahahaha!
@kwebster62
@kwebster62 3 года назад
Except he doesn't say "On 3, break right".....he said "Ice, on the COUNT of 3, break hard right. 3, 2, 1, break right". One could argue that a 'count of 3' is "1, 2, 3" I suppose.
@andrewkoss8463
@andrewkoss8463 2 года назад
Well done, sir. Very good stuff, Ward. Thanks for the memories and good gouge. I was a fleet A-7 guy (75-86), had a CAG ops tour, was CO of VF45 (Key West Adversary flying F16, F5 and A4) and finally AirBoss on the TR. Went on to enjoy flying a FEDEX. Be well, shipmate.
@daveperala4723
@daveperala4723 2 года назад
Was in 45 back in 84-87, PR2. Only had A-4s {TA-J & E's} back then. Actually, it was VA-45 when I first got there, changed in late 84 early 85 if I remember correctly.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 3 года назад
This was great Ward!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
Thanks for watching, Rick! Great to get awesome feedback from the YT master (and the greatest musician I know).
@buddystewart2020
@buddystewart2020 3 года назад
Now you're going to have to do an episode on your channel covering Navy/War movie music Rick.
@elbrauer
@elbrauer 3 года назад
Beato, huh? Didn’t expect to see you here.
@GRequinBlanc
@GRequinBlanc 3 года назад
Ahhh so cool to find you here. Music and Navy!,!
@shannonedens7854
@shannonedens7854 3 года назад
@@elbrauer I was thinking the same thing!
@ryguy57106
@ryguy57106 3 года назад
Tower there’s some dork on a motorcycle pumping his fist at us 😂😂😂 I lol for real at that one
@MrGunnytom
@MrGunnytom 3 года назад
That dork isn't whering a helment, that's a no no on all millitary bases
@shannonchurchill4556
@shannonchurchill4556 3 года назад
The funniest part is that you can see the tie-down straps on the handlebars, because he wasn’t really riding the thing, it was strapped to a trailer. Little man, big ego, all image
@JohnDoe-nd9mv
@JohnDoe-nd9mv 3 года назад
@@MrGunnytom yup, and that gay little vest.....dont ask dont tell....
@hdfoster5507
@hdfoster5507 11 месяцев назад
What Is the justification for the instructor going below the "the Hard Deck?"
@michaelbarton6444
@michaelbarton6444 3 года назад
I was a crew member 82-85 on USS Enterprise when they were filming scenes for top gun. In later years watching the movie I picked out most of the errors you pointed out. I am a retired AT2 Having supported the F14 in AIMD most of my career. Thank you for your service sir and pointing out the blatant Hollywood goofs.
@sparekeiv
@sparekeiv 3 года назад
That scene where Maverick's plane is inverted over the Mig always bothered me, even as a kid. My immediate thought was "there is no way the planes could be that close to each other - the fins of the planes would be colliding"
@Muck006
@Muck006 3 года назад
Not just the fins ... the air turbulences COULD BE a problem ... and separating them again would pose the risk of having one plane in the hot exhaust of the other plane's engine ... which risks damage.
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
And not to mention that in order to fly that close without crashing into each other both pilots would have to be working together with nerves of steel... not knowing what another pilot might do like make a sudden maneuver, it would be suicide to attempt that.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 3 года назад
Actually they wouldn't be colliding because the 'MiG 28' only had a single tail fin which would have been in the middle of the F-14 and the F-14 is so wide the twin tail fins wouldn't be touching anything.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
Fins won’t get damaged my exhaust. Look up the USAF thunderbirds flying the F-100s. The plane in the slot has a black tail from the leads exhaust. That’s after hours.. not seconds. Suction between canopies? Just counteract it with control. That’s literally all flying a plane is… flying with a reference (surface of the earth, instruments, or another aircraft) and using your controls to maintain that reference.
@crashburn3292
@crashburn3292 3 года назад
Ground crew: *"Why is Hollywood's cockpit instruments all sticky again??"*
@patch5859
@patch5859 2 года назад
Smells like orange juice!
@danielbyers9755
@danielbyers9755 3 года назад
From a former Plane Captain of the Tomcat with VF-1 (1986-1990), the one error that gets me is when Maverick was getting ready to launch from the alert 5, the plane captain was holding the signal "Remove Electrical power" while the Tomcat was in Zone five on the cats... That always gets me...
@THEgenART
@THEgenART 3 года назад
Is that the “index and middle finger of one hand pressing into the palm of your other”? I couldn’t find what that meant but thought it may have been a sign to confirm both AB’s were functioning before releasing the cat. Your comment makes sense since I couldn’t find that sign anywhere
@946towguy2
@946towguy2 3 года назад
07:08 Goose yells "Engine 1 is out!" Then engine 2 goes dark.
@starga-fr7qx
@starga-fr7qx 3 года назад
It get's real confusing in a flat spin, all that lateral G and what not
@Cash_McCoy
@Cash_McCoy 3 года назад
Yup, In Naval Aviation, engine one is the left one.
@MadNotAngry
@MadNotAngry 3 года назад
In ALL of Aviation, engine one is the (most) left one.
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 3 года назад
@@MadNotAngry I only *have* *one* engine.
@fawnlliebowitz1772
@fawnlliebowitz1772 3 года назад
@@MadNotAngry The DC6 was a 4 engine 3 bladed prop aircraft, the DC7 was a 3 engine 4 bladed prop airplane.......
@davidcampbell4174
@davidcampbell4174 2 года назад
The thing that bothered me the most you did not mention. That whole plot point about going below the hard deck chasing Jester, when the entire fight seemed to be below the deck given the flight scenes used. One time goose even says ‘Watch the mountains”. It seemed like most of that fight happened below 1000’.
@muriloninja
@muriloninja 3 года назад
Awesome! The movie will always be epic even with the "derp" mistakes! lol The F/14 will always be the baddest fighter jet IMO and of course has to be because as kids in the 80's we lost our minds at this movie. ha!
@warlock415
@warlock415 3 года назад
It was underpowered, over engineered, and designed to fight a war that never happened, but goddamn it was one beautiful jet.
@alexandertheissl808
@alexandertheissl808 3 года назад
@@warlock415 only the " A " version was underpowered.
@warlock415
@warlock415 3 года назад
@@alexandertheissl808 True, which is the version we see onscreen here.
@ninadbhave5133
@ninadbhave5133 3 года назад
It's cool to think of its auto swing-wing tech back in the day when the Soviet Mig-23 and 27 had manually adjusted swing wing. What could the F-14 have been in the modern age, I wonder?
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 года назад
The F-14 was plagued with lots of technical problems --- it wasn't bad ass .... but just plain bad
@grayhawkjl947
@grayhawkjl947 3 года назад
One of my biggest needs with the movie has always been the hard deck sequence. Before the final engagement when they are below the hard deck for “a few seconds”, as maverick is chasing they are clearly way below 10,000 ft flying through desert peaks and close to the ground
@madpatzz1
@madpatzz1 2 года назад
Depends I’d the hard deck was ago or asl
@madpatzz1
@madpatzz1 2 года назад
Agl or asl. F#$king auto correct
@lloydlynn8084
@lloydlynn8084 3 года назад
As a famous Australian once said. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
@jemakrol
@jemakrol 3 года назад
The truth is only interesting if used to motivate viewers to watch the movie - despite possible shortcomings: "based on a true story" or if it's really far fetched (or bad): "inspired by a true story"... =)
@HarvestrX
@HarvestrX 3 года назад
I think the Democratic party said that!
@serinatang4184
@serinatang4184 3 года назад
I didn't know Mark Twain was Australian...
@lloydlynn8084
@lloydlynn8084 3 года назад
I ll save you all the trouble. It was gangland murderer Mark Ckopper Read. He wrote several somewhat suspect books on his activities..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_%22Chopper%22_Read
@UFO-047
@UFO-047 3 года назад
@@lloydlynn8084 was said LONG before Chopper Read. Kinda fitting quote tho to attribute to someone else. Ironic
@andrewpowers7034
@andrewpowers7034 3 года назад
I’m surprised he missed this one - when everyone in the fighter pilot bar started singing Loving Feeling in unison. As an ex F4 jock I’ve been in a lot of fighter pilot bars and at no time did everyone start singing in unison.
@starga-fr7qx
@starga-fr7qx 3 года назад
Pretty sure WW1 and WW2 pilots did a lot of singing in unison around a piano..
@dbl2269
@dbl2269 3 года назад
Clearly this is an F-14 jock thing.
@frankbizzoco1954
@frankbizzoco1954 3 года назад
F-4 is my favorite jet of all time, and I envy you. I first saw pictures of F-4Ds my pop took when he was stationed in Thailand, and even as a little kid I knew that jet was damn awesome. You're pretty awesome in my book lol.
@johnfritz8571
@johnfritz8571 3 года назад
I'm an ex-Phantom Driver too and we never sang in the O-Club...until this movie came out. Then for a year or so after it was pretty commonplace!
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 года назад
I've been in a fair number of bars frequented by military and I never saw women as hot as a young Kelly McGillis LOL
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 3 года назад
I've noticed most of those errors in the past and often wondered about them. Cheers for explaining them in such detail!
@LucidDreamer54321
@LucidDreamer54321 3 года назад
You could have included the Top Gun trophy. There is no Top Gun trophy and never has been one.
@erickborling1302
@erickborling1302 3 года назад
Do all who complete some level at the Top Gun" school at NAS Fallon get an insignia to have sewn on their flight suits?
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 3 года назад
That one seemed odd to me even as a young teenager with very little knowledge of how the military worked. I knew they handed out decorations, ribbons, patches... but I was pretty dubious about a trophy. Trophies are for sports.
@wendyhendricks7819
@wendyhendricks7819 3 года назад
Everyone missed the most important aspect of TOPGUN, the real TOPGUN. There were many women enlisted as well as female officers who really worked there, I was stationed at TOPGUN when the movie was made. I worked endless extra hours and went to many deployments to make this movie possible. Our squadron really took great pride and effort to make sure everyone was safe and it was a great time. The real TOPGUN has women working. When we were sitting in the premiere they did for us, and the credits rolled it was very hurtful that they did not recognize any of the women who made this movie, only the men. They went as far to ensure while filming no women were in any of the scenes nor were allowed to participate as extras in the background. Many of the background personnel were actual TOPGUN enlisted and officers. The migs in the movie were our Northrop F5’s that we trained the incoming squadrons pilots with while attending TOPGUN. The F5 planes were an integral part of the school, along with the A4’s used in the movies. They had the best simulation at the time for training purposes. The USNavy would not let them paint the F5’S black for the film due to the corrosive additive it would incur, so they were rubber coated for every flight. Watch the opening scene and look at the bottoms of the migs. You will see white spots where the coating is coming loose from the plane. They were peeled and resprayed for every flight and each scene. The two seater F5 is my baby, I was an electrician and a plane captain, and it has my name painted on it under the black rubber. It was a super fun experience, and being a member of TOPGUN was the best thing I ever did. I learned so much. What you also never see in the movie is how amazingly well the enlisted and officers worked side by side and what a close knit group this squadron really was. Not sure about now, but it rocked when I was there.
@jonathanstill4701
@jonathanstill4701 3 года назад
That's the sexiest thing I've ever heard a woman talk about. You are so cool,Capt.Hendricks. I'd follow you into the ladies room anytime...
@CincinnatiDan
@CincinnatiDan 3 года назад
Awesome perspective, thanks for sharing. Rarely do the enlisted airmen, soldiers, sailors get the respect they richly deserve.
@Fox2-Videos
@Fox2-Videos 3 года назад
My dad flies for TOPGUN now! It's now referred to as NAWDC right now, but TOPGUN is definitely better lmao
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 3 года назад
How's the F/A-18 perform as an aggressor compared to its ancestor, the F-5?
@wendyhendricks7819
@wendyhendricks7819 3 года назад
Maverick followed Charlie into the ladies room. It’s a TOPGUN tradition. 😂
@TIGERMOTH3
@TIGERMOTH3 3 месяца назад
Former Marine A4 driver. Took my 14 yr old daughter to see Top Gun - the movie was driving me crazy! the comm bable mostly. My daughter told me to settle down as it's just a movie & if they didn't 'bable', I'd be the only one in the theater that knew what the hell was going on. I settled down & watched what became the best recruiting tool for Pensacola for several years. Whiskey Mike
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley 3 года назад
Another one you've missed: Jester states in a voiceover that "the planes you are flying against are smaller, faster and more manoeuvrable, just like the enemy MIGs", but an A-4 is actually a lot slower than an F-14.
@THEgenART
@THEgenART 3 года назад
Yeah that’s a weird one. I think “quicker” instead of ‘faster’ would have been better. I think the only MiG at this time that was absolutely capable of a higher speed than the F-14 was the MiG 25.
@Rogar79
@Rogar79 3 года назад
and there's something that i really don't understand in that sequence: the hard deck was 10,000 feet right? Yet they were near ground level the entire time until the last engage o.o ... still loved that film anyway ;D
@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270
@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270 3 года назад
@@Rogar79 10,000 feet asl does not necessarily mean 10,000 feet higher than the mountains in the area. it would be correct to set the hard deck to a height that was safe clearance over most if not all of the terrain. still a stretch, i know, but......
@Rogar79
@Rogar79 3 года назад
@@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270 understood! Thx man!
@spudeleven5124
@spudeleven5124 3 года назад
The reason the Navy chose the A4 for adversary was because of its maneuverability. Note that in air combat, speed isn't everything. This presenter's remarks about dogfights, which are fairly common among air combatants, are described as being a "knife fight in a phone booth". The A4 was later supplemented by the IAI Kfir at Miramar because of its superb maneuverability as well as its resemblance to then-contemporary adversaries, many of which were flying French aircraft, of which the Kfir was a derivative. Captured Iraqi and purchased post-Soviet MiGs provided additional adversary training. Never underestimate the ability of an aircraft: an exceptional plane can perform poorly in the hands of a crummy pilot, but even a marginal/unremarkable plane can be lethal when flown by a very good pilot. This is what Top Gun (the training program, not the movie) was all about.
@pepsimax6671
@pepsimax6671 3 года назад
F-14 is one of my favorite jets of all time.
@timmymtb4198
@timmymtb4198 3 года назад
Same
@scallen3841
@scallen3841 3 года назад
I don't know it took hours to repair
@HEADBANGERSBALLER
@HEADBANGERSBALLER 3 года назад
It's a very stately and beautiful jet.
@aaronweiser5421
@aaronweiser5421 3 года назад
So it turns out their is no fuel gauge in the back seat......
@janwilliams1270
@janwilliams1270 3 года назад
The F14 was the only fighter in the inventory that could carry the long range Phoenix missile. A beautiful plane that would easily defeat an F35. A real turkey. My opinion is that the Tomcat is better than the overrated f18.
@chrisrosado215
@chrisrosado215 3 года назад
This was so VERY awesome!!! Thanks for putting in the time and effort for this channel. You and CW Lemoine are captivating to listen to and learn from.
@Neeso97
@Neeso97 3 года назад
I don’t know if this would be considered an error, but everyone in the movie is dripping in sweat every scene.
@Dunedain313
@Dunedain313 3 года назад
The two locations are Southern California and the Indian Ocean so....
@jonathannagel7427
@jonathannagel7427 3 года назад
So true, even when not playing volleyball!
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 3 года назад
Bab Boon Of course they're all sweating - That's because the director kept telling everyone how much each days shoot was costing.
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 года назад
Except Kelly McGillis --- she was wearing that sexy white blouse and not a drop of sweat anywhere
@jonathannagel7427
@jonathannagel7427 3 года назад
@@babboon5764 imagine working with Tom Cruise now, after that meltdown he had against the entire crew about masking up. Not raising a mask debate, just saying he went from an actor to producer with a lot of clout, much like his character Les in tropic Thunder
@rksnj6797
@rksnj6797 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! I use many of these reasons to explain to my friends why Top Gun is unrealistic. Don't get me wrong, any movie with Tomcats is worth watching. Having been a maintainer on the F-111, the classified briefing in the hangar scene always makes me laugh. However now being in ATC, when a student pilot requests practice approaches or pattern work, it's so hard not to say "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full" LOL! One thing you didn't mention is that the landing officer told Cougar he was well below glidepath then asked him to call the ball, and then rogered Cougar calling the ball. If Cougar was that fubared, would he have been able to call the ball?
@AKStovall
@AKStovall 2 года назад
Merlin called it I believe (It wasn't Cougar's voice calling roger ball...) which would be an error in itself...
@greggd2027
@greggd2027 3 года назад
When Top Gun came out, one of our local morning radio shows here did a funny skit about people joining the Navy because of the movie. It was a guy supposedly calling in to the station, yelling "I thought I was gonna meet Tom Cruise! I thought I was gonna be a pilot and meet hot women! I'm scrubbing decks and cleaning toilets!"
@solicitr666
@solicitr666 3 года назад
Reality
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
I remember an old Saturday Night Live commercial from the 70's about joining the Navy... showed guys scraping paint, peeling potatoes, mopping floors, and a bunch of other mundane, not fun jobs. Then at the end it said, "U.S. Navy. It's not just a job, it's $295 a week."
@doobchec
@doobchec 3 года назад
Another miss (not called out in this video) can be seen during the “flat spin” sequence as Goose says “engine one is out!” The scene cuts to an rear external view showing engine two flame out instead of number one. Number one engine shuts down shortly after, but that miss was always pretty obvious.
@therayven3147
@therayven3147 2 года назад
Now you mention it, your right... engine 1 would have been the port side (left) engine, but in the movie, it was the starboard (right) engine...
@hammerdown3876
@hammerdown3876 2 года назад
@@therayven3147 - not to mention I seriously doubt they killed the engines in flight for that scene so I bet that was just the afterburners getting kicked off to mimic engine failure. Hollywood to Navy: we need you to shut down both engines on your 4 million dollar Tomcat so we can film the engines going off....by the way you're going have to be low and slow enough that our cameras can pick up the flameout clearly. Navy: uhhhh.... no. Lol
@flyingsword135
@flyingsword135 Год назад
Can't hold a candle to the IRON EAGLE series 😅 sarc off
@mjw1955
@mjw1955 3 года назад
And don't forget having the F-14's cannon sound like a machine gun, when it's a gatling gun which would go BRAAAAP!
@laurentzduba1298
@laurentzduba1298 3 года назад
During my ROTC days back in 1989, I was assigned to spray cooling water to an M-61 Vulcan 20 mm gatling gun being fired from a parked Northrop F-5. Only worn minimal earplugs and almost got totally deaf and instead of my ears ringing, I hear only white noise - akin to the blank spaces on the FM tuner for 2 weeks. Luckily, my hearing returned to normal. BTW, the sound the M-61 Vulcan makes is akin to the bass riff intro of Elastica's Connection - only its a really, really loud WRRR....
@bronco5334
@bronco5334 3 года назад
@@laurentzduba1298 No you didn't, because the F-5 didn't carry an M61. It carried two M39 cannon. (Or in the case of the F-5F, a single M39). M39 are single barreled, multiple chamber "revolver" cannons, not gatling guns. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M39_cannon
@laurentzduba1298
@laurentzduba1298 3 года назад
@@bronco5334 our commandant said it was an M-61 Vulcan same one retrofitted on Vietnam War era F-4 Phantoms - unless I misread the plaque / badge of it. Back around 1989, there were already plans to replace the F-5s with F-16 the next semester in the airbase we were assigned to. After my ROTC stint, I concentrated on my carrer as a rock musician. If pressed, I can't even remember now how to tell apart the T-38 from the F-5.
@freddurst2758
@freddurst2758 3 года назад
The Final Countdown got the M61 sound right
@helifanodobezanozi7689
@helifanodobezanozi7689 3 года назад
You guys are all wrong. At no point in the movie Top Gun does a F-14 ever use guns! Only the "Mig-28" ever uses it's cannons, which fires frozen turkeys at 300 rounds per min!!!
@RTS907
@RTS907 3 года назад
I wish we could watch “Maverick”, they have been talking about it for years now. Thanks for the error count. The “flat-spin heading out to sea” has bugged me every time I’ve seen it. The sad thing is the great pilot forcing the spin died while attempting “just one more time!” Its a movie, people shouldn’t die for a movie, although lots do.
@just82much51
@just82much51 3 года назад
"Tower, there's some lunatic on the flight line on a motor cycle shaking his fist at us!"....That"s PRICELESS!!!!! 😂😂 Seriously though, I enjoyed your breakdown of "TopGun" just as I did on "The Final Countdown". Both happen to feature my all time favorite fighter, the F-14. I actually have a distant cousin who is an Engineer and back in the day, worked on the design of one of the TomCat's initial systems, I believe it was radar. Above all, thank you for making this video and most of all, your service to our country! So many people have unfortunately turned those few words into a cliche', but military service, especially flying, runs generations deep in my family and I VERY much appreciate your service!! How INCREDIBLE it must have been to spend that time in the cockpit of the F-14!!!! Please keep your video's coming! They are informative and enjoyable! Thank you again "Mooch" and God Bless!!!!!
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 3 года назад
hear hear!
@MikeJohnson-zh9ue
@MikeJohnson-zh9ue 3 года назад
The one error I always get a kick out of is when Maverick gets pissed at Charlie and fly's off on his motorcycle but NOT from NAS Miramar but the Balboa NAVY hospital near downtown San Diego
@detsd59
@detsd59 3 года назад
Mike - That's actually Naval Training Center (NTC) San Diego and not Balboa. He drives past the commissary and through the gate that empties onto Rosecrans Street.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 3 года назад
@@detsd59: Right! I won a bet with a fellow Naval officer over that when the movie came out. My last active duty billet was at NTC and by 1986 I was a civilian working at the Naval Hospital. After the film came out, I was accepted to work at the actual TOPGUN school, where I worked 'til Sept. of 1991.
@acb9896
@acb9896 3 года назад
Nope. That's bldg 1 at NTC and he stops her at Laurel and 3rd
@williamwilson6499
@williamwilson6499 3 года назад
Fly’s?
@MikeJohnson-zh9ue
@MikeJohnson-zh9ue 3 года назад
I haven't seen it in awhile but it came on the other night and I tuned just at that point. I remember a building at the NAVY Hospital which is why I thought it was the place I commented on. But as I watched it it was clear that was NTC he came out of onto Rosecrans. I'm not sure what spot he stops at but you can see downtown San Diego in the background and not Miramar RD
@Gary-ld6ht
@Gary-ld6ht 3 года назад
If you recall, Maverick & Iceman were always very competitive until the end: You can be my wingman any time. No, you can be mine. They buried the hatchet. Had absolutely nothing to do with receiving orders.
@siskokidd
@siskokidd 3 года назад
Excellent mansplation.
@mtpstv94
@mtpstv94 3 года назад
@@siskokidd You know whenever you use that word you instantly become thought of as a child.
@lamplighter1968
@lamplighter1968 3 года назад
You just saved me scrolling through the entire comments! I wanted to check and see if someone else said something like that before posting my own.
@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270
@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270 3 года назад
@@siskokidd that isn't how you spell point. while we are at it, the author of the vid criticised the exchange for reasons that had sod all to do with the context, so the explanation is a fair one. shame you got your panties in a know dear!
@tobucksy
@tobucksy 3 года назад
Nearly everything about “Top Gun” was cringeworthy except the line, “You’re not happy unless you’re going Mach 2 with your hair on fire”. Summed up how juvenile the whole thing was. Too bad about Goose, though.
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 3 года назад
I don't remember that line. Was that from Charlie?
@michaelmcneil4168
@michaelmcneil4168 2 года назад
Don't worry about him.
@heythere135
@heythere135 3 года назад
Fruit FOD 😂 Now the next time I do a FOD walk I'll be looking for orange peels and apple seeds
@seannemo8076
@seannemo8076 3 года назад
Why aren’t you already? Last time I did a FOD walk one of my guys got bitched at for not picking up a leaf... 😁
@heythere135
@heythere135 3 года назад
@@seannemo8076 haha that's been the case from time to time with us too. Depends on
@mikehernandez1511
@mikehernandez1511 3 года назад
Still have my boyhood crush on the F14 Tomcat.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 года назад
The pride of the Iranian Air Force! 🇮🇷 Classic aircraft. I remember making an Airfix kit of it.
@topiasr628
@topiasr628 3 года назад
Its like Fast and Furious, I don't care if it's all crap I still love it
@erhman2004
@erhman2004 3 года назад
I was already in the Navy for 2 years when this came out. My folks came to visit me Hawaii where I was stationed and we went to see it at the theater. I was on a submarine, so all this aviation stuff did not mean a lot to me, but I was checking things out like uniforms and ribbon placement when I could see what they had for accuracy I thought it was a fun movie and when it was released on VHS, everyone got a copy and played it all the time at the barracks . Good times. "Talk to me Goose!"
@nojunkwork5735
@nojunkwork5735 3 года назад
I used to drink at the same VFW post as the lady that played Vipers wife in the movie. Both she and her real husband are really nice.
@stevenhill1287
@stevenhill1287 2 месяца назад
Ward, I have a lot of time on my hands. I noticed Iceman's CVW 5 patch. Question, is it possible Iceman had been a Phantom Phlyer, with either VF-161 or VF-151, aboard USS Midway? Given the time frame, etc. 🤔
@blazedgamingkr1438
@blazedgamingkr1438 3 года назад
6:26 and the cause of everyone's favorite activity...... FOD Walkdown.
@caseystep
@caseystep 3 года назад
Yes!!!
@davidpierce9949
@davidpierce9949 3 года назад
If i had a dollar for Every one.
@johnbarton7168
@johnbarton7168 3 года назад
I still love the fact that when Mav hits the breaks during the first top gun engagement - a rather expensive camera rips off the F14
@samanthashafer1742
@samanthashafer1742 3 года назад
Wait really? Oh my god that's hilarious. All the stories I've heard about the filming were Tom's first ride in a Tom cat, Anthony Edwards flipping a circuit breaker behind his seat, and how Michael Ironside saw the filming of the pass with the Tomcat flying at rooftop level.
@williamsimmons7417
@williamsimmons7417 3 года назад
Iiiuuuuhuuj
@happypapi1903
@happypapi1903 3 года назад
I'm sure a lot of Russian pilots laugh at this attempt at the Cobra maneuver.
@FreeFlyerUk
@FreeFlyerUk 3 года назад
Brakes
@scarybaldguy
@scarybaldguy 4 месяца назад
23: "Too close for missiles, switching to guns!" Now I was just a lowly F-16 weapons systems guy, but I'm pretty sure the Falcon and Tomcat both use the trigger, not the pickle button, for the cannon.
@azimuth361
@azimuth361 3 года назад
As a 26-year Veteran, I'm here to tell you that you're not likely to get a cool name like Maverick or Ice Man. Over my career, I've been nicknamed Private Asshole, Three Peeks, 361 and Money Shot. None of those names were given to me for something great that I did.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
Read chapter two of PUNK'S WAR for the truth about how aviators get callsigns.
@supertrooper7403
@supertrooper7403 3 года назад
I always wondered why I was called Richard Head. That’s not even my name.
@Cash_McCoy
@Cash_McCoy 3 года назад
I was a US Navy enlisted so I didn't have a call sign. But I always heard that navy pilots got their call signs from their peers; which of course, weren't always flattering. But Air Force pilots got to choose their own.
@Cash_McCoy
@Cash_McCoy 3 года назад
@@WardCarroll What was you call sign Ward?
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 года назад
@@Cash_McCoy Mooch.
@Llyrin
@Llyrin 3 года назад
What made me want to join the USN was the movie “The Final Countdown.”
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 3 года назад
The movie that outguns Top Gun!
@desertodavid
@desertodavid 3 года назад
What made me want to join the Navy was looking around the recruiter's office at the posters that said SEE THE WORLD HAVE FUN! Then this fat whale waddled out coffee cup in hand in his all white uniform which made him look even fatter. Lol. I walked across the hall and joined the Marines. Stayed 21 years. No it was not always pleasant, in fact rarely... grueling.
@jamiegumm4398
@jamiegumm4398 3 года назад
I joined the Navy because the Air Force guy took the day off!
@dl3909
@dl3909 5 месяцев назад
Number 1 error should be that F-5s are not migs. Even I knew that as a kid watching Top Gun. Everyone knows what an F-5 looks like and a mig looks like. Completely different in looks, shape, size and sound. This navy guy should've spotted that straight off the bat. Wouldn't want this guy as my navigator. Probably mistake a side of a mountain as the flight deck 😂
@CaptainFantastik1
@CaptainFantastik1 3 года назад
With regard to the fuel dump.......Dale "Snot" Snodgrass dumped fuel as a strategy to shave aircraft weight before his famous 1v1 engagement where he got a guns kill on an F-15. And he had his RIO pull a circuit breaker to manipulate his flaps in order to have more lift at slower air speed. JCM800 in the background?
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 3 года назад
Was that during an exercise? I thought that no F15's had ever been lost in combat?
@Power5
@Power5 3 года назад
was an F-18 Hornet. The replacement for the Tomcat and he wanted to prove how good the Cat was. Dale also removed the Mid Compression bypass circuit for an extra 2000lbs of thrust for engines. @KumaBeanIt 2 US planes are not firing real bullets at each other.
@cobrocks
@cobrocks 3 года назад
Looks like it, wonder if its a 2203? Or is it a 900?
@rogerkay8603
@rogerkay8603 3 года назад
Have carried the nickname "Mav" for 34 years. Love it, though I actually failed my RAF flying tests at Biggin Hill so have never flown a fast jet (prop jobs only). Another great video from you Ward, best subscription I've made in years. Despite its flaws, still an awesome film and must have been the best recruiting aid the USN ever had.
@rumrnr78
@rumrnr78 2 года назад
We have a sim opening there (BH) for CAE if you want to teach!
@aaronl5723
@aaronl5723 3 года назад
#12 the fuel dump.. Man the things Hollywood will do for effect... Scratching my head... Thanks for the download Ward.. Always interesting watching your video's.
@cozzietwothousand2707
@cozzietwothousand2707 3 года назад
One of my pet peeves in aerial combat scenes is when a plane explodes and falls straight down like a brick, rather than the plane and pieces of it continuing on in a ballistic arc until it finally hits the ground. It just looks cartoonish. And all those people sweating buckets in CIC like they're on a WW2 submarine or something. They keep that place cold enough to use as a meat locker to help all the electronics stay cool. Even in the Summer I'd still have to wear a jacket in there to keep from shivering.
@svyt
@svyt 3 года назад
LIke all the sweaty Russians on the Konovalov in Hunt for Red October.
@donnewton5556
@donnewton5556 3 года назад
I ALWAYS enjoyed standing TAO in the Persian Gulf in a jacket. Every CIC I've ever been in is somewhere around 60 degrees ambient. As stated many other times, the equipment is really important, the watchstanders, not so much. . . When TG came out, I was assigned to Navy OCS as a company officer/instructor. Saw TG in Warwick RI with all the pilots from Navy War College in the audience. Watching them lean into the turns with the in-flight scenes was hilarious. Then we all went and got drunk.
@michaelkarnerfors9545
@michaelkarnerfors9545 3 года назад
05:37 What bugs me even more is that Jester tries to escape the engagement by "crashing" his jet into the hard-deck. An _instructor_ cheating the rules of the exercise?! Come on! And then _Mav and Goose_ gets chewed out for violating supposed rules of safety?! Already the first time I saw that it bugged me something fierce, that Jester gets to break the hard-deck at his leisure. How it should have played out: Mav pulls up at hard-deck + 500 and proudly announces "manoeuvre kill!" 07:10 Also, is that not #2 that "goes out" first?
@jaredp8423
@jaredp8423 3 года назад
just throwing out a different angle but Jester may have done what he did as a test to see if maverick would follow orders since he had a bad rep already on being a wild card. Not saying that was the case just a different perspective.
@michaelkarnerfors9545
@michaelkarnerfors9545 3 года назад
@@jaredp8423 Baiting a student to break the rules by breaking them himself? In Hollywood perhaps, but it makes no sense at all. Either you let them up in the jets with full confidence they will stick to the rules, or you do not. To bait and entrap people just for funsies, or at the spur of the moment, just reeks of bullying toxicity.
@jaredp8423
@jaredp8423 3 года назад
@@michaelkarnerfors9545 I feel ya, we don't know jester's motivations from that scene, perhaps he didn't want the embarrassment of losing so he broke the rules knowing that Mav would have to break it to beat him making the kill not valid. But all in all I see what your saying.
@michaelkarnerfors9545
@michaelkarnerfors9545 3 года назад
​@@jaredp8423 An instructor that feels _embarrassment_ at a student excelling at an exercise is - again - sign of toxicity. Prestige has no place in teaching, and especially not in the military. To then try to cover it up by violating the rules, is just additional impropriety. If(!) any of this was true, then Jester is clearly unfit for TOPGUN. Again how it would have played out (read in Michael Ironside's best "Starship Troopers" voice): "Gather 'round boys and girls, your class mates have been _innovative_ ! Here is how it went down. Assignment for tomorrow: analyse this. Strengths & weaknesses, risks & rewards, fluke or reliable, could/would/should do again on a scale from 1 to 10. Dismissed" Yeah, I am couch piloting/teaching here. It just bugs me, this artificial drama.
@dexterwestin3747
@dexterwestin3747 3 года назад
@@michaelkarnerfors9545 WTF is "bullying toxicity"? lol
@99bimmer
@99bimmer 2 года назад
I love the movie, seen it close to 1000 times. I knew when I was a kid that it wasn't correct technically, but I didn't care. So much fun. That being said, this video was pretty entertaining and most of the stuff you mentioned was pretty common sense
@The1trueJester
@The1trueJester 3 года назад
Top gun sparked my love affair for aviation, now I'm on the track to my PPL
@hectormelendez7196
@hectormelendez7196 3 года назад
I have my PPL, good luck on that to you Sr.
@MrDogfish83
@MrDogfish83 3 года назад
Training in the mighty Chickenhawk? Also, lady asks what you fly. "See that C130 plane over there? I fly a C172"
@ginoman6285
@ginoman6285 3 года назад
holy crap a PPL after this long????
@The1trueJester
@The1trueJester 3 года назад
@@ginoman6285 I was born in 93, I'm just now able to afford it.
@alexshmalex
@alexshmalex 3 года назад
Can't believe you didn't mention the Mig-28s! ;)
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 3 года назад
Reverse-engineered from the Northrop F-5As captured during the Vietnam War.
@ninadbhave5133
@ninadbhave5133 3 года назад
I think it's because that one was an acknowledged piece of fiction from the get go. It's fascinating to think that if that movie had been made 10 years later then they could have used real MiG-29s that the German Air Force inherited from East Germany and which subsequently played aggressor roles in Red Flag exercises. Ah...the pre-CGI world of the Cold War :)
@ericblom9568
@ericblom9568 3 года назад
@@JBofBrisbane Or, one of the two trainer airframes they STILL use @ Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls, Tx. The other is the re-engineered, next-gen T-6 Texan turbo-prop, which was NOT shown in the movie, Thank God!!
@jasonpeacock9735
@jasonpeacock9735 3 года назад
@@ninadbhave5133 nah, they probably would have gone the Iron Eagle II route of showing off the hot new MiG-4 Phantom IIs. That just looked a tad suspiciously like IAF planes with bad decals.
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