22-23 TOYOTA TUNDRA ENGINE RECALL EXPLAINED 

There is no way I am letting Toyota rebuild my engine in the service center at a Toyota dealership. Nope. They need to fix this with a crate engine. Period. If not, they're buying my truck back.

That's why experts say never purchase a car that has a new engine or significant upgrade before all the bugs are worked out

"Man, that's wild." *Starts 2020 Tundra up and drives away.

If mine started knocking I would hold my foot on the floor till it explodes, no way would I let them just do a short block

I wouldn't accept Toyota's solution. You buy a brand new vehicle only to have it completely torn apart by some tech who doesn't really give a crap and is working as fast as possible to make as much money as possible. The chances of this "solution" in some way being detrimental to the quality/life of the vehicle is about 100%. Toyota should be buying these trucks back, or at the very least installing brand new (long block) engines.

2nd generation Tundra just went up in value after this announcement......

Toyota just issued a Layman term "blanket statement" to the general public, its not some debris metal shavings issue, its an engineering design flaw with the main crank bearings and shaft not machined to correct tolerances, shaft cavitation causes friction which destroyed the bearings.

I call BS on machining debris left behind in over 100,000 engines. Maybe machining tolerances but even that is suspect on that number of engines. Where are the quality checks during the manufacturing and assembly of this engine? I put my money on an engineering design issue! If machining debris was the issue you would see damage throughout the internal engine components and turbo chargers that oil is supplied to and that has not been the case!

Happy I purchased a new 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro employing that bulletproof naturally aspirated 5.7 liter V-8 engine and reliable 6 speed Aisan transmission

Glad I got a 23 GX. The last Toyota truck with a V8, and built in Japan

My truck cost me 70k OTD Let’s put a class action law suit against toyota and get our money back.

No way in hell I'm allowing a short block replacement at the dealer level. Too much to go wrong.

Hated my 23 tundra platinum. Doors and windows rattled. Interior was garbage. Rode like hell. Only 17mpg. Sold that pos 6 weeks ago. I feel lucky.

Im not a mechanic or engineer. If the same motor is produced on two different continents and the worldwide debris is causing the front bearing in all cases to grenade, it would stand to reason the "debris" would be clogging the same oil passage on each motor. That theory requires several coincidences to line up. Toyota may think people are idiots, maybe some us are. I will require a lot more information on my 23 LX before I'm satisfied. Additionally, Toyota ststes that the recall vehicles end production in November 22. If so, HOW do they know that? I have been driving Toyota for a long time, I bought the LX to drive for the rest of my life, and at 9500 miles so far so good. That does not change the sick feeling I have in my stomach. If they extend the warranty way out, Im in, if not I will sell, take the loss, and NEVER buy anything they make again. I'm not sure they can make this right, but I'll hold until I know one way or the other. Unacceptable in every conceivable way, off your ass on your feet, Toyota.

PLEASE keep making these videos about the Tundra, I’ve been loyal to Toyota, but we as consumers have to know what’s really going on. I really like my 2024 Tundra, but if the engine is going to have reliability issues I’ll just go another direction. This was supposed to be my last truck through retirement, i just want to know if I take care of it if it’s going to last….i paid a lot of hard earned money for this dam thing

Jr. great update, I love my 2UZFE in my 03 4 runner. I am glad I’m on the sideline just waiting to see what happens. Strong work bro. 😎

Last summer I bought a 2023 Tundra after issues with an F150. I feel like I jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. I feel somewhat relieved that I bought the extended full coverage warranty.

Honestly, from the wording, "There is a possibility that certain machining debris may not have been cleared from the engine when it was produced." Keyword is "may." That's conditional, not definite. They don't know exactly what went wrong. Time will have to tell.

The right group of lawyers should be brought in to organize the owners concerns and if necessary take legal action to make everyone affected whole. No dealer engine jobs. That is unacceptable. 🇨🇦

About the long block/short block argument, you show the oil pump inlet screen. If all that stuff is there, it will be in the heads. I don't want to keep that and put it in another block to have it ruined, too.

I'm glad I bought a Ridgeline last month. No turbos, no hybrid, 24-26 mpg avg on the tried and true 3.5 V6 they've been using for 20+ years.

Toyota is so screwed. This is actually very huge. 100,000 trucks at 60k a pop is 6billions dollars. They are admitting the new Tundra, almost all of them are dangerous. Not just a door hinge needs replacing... Resale value will be doomed on these trucks. Fire koji now!

Wanna hear an interesting thing that happened at the dealership I work at. We had a 2022 Tundra with a spun bearing and metal debris though the entire engine. The Technician said all engine parts that contacted oil need replacing. Makes sense right? Well Toyota said no way you only do the short block. So we did the short block. Engine blew up again shortly after and Toyota said sorry we're not responsible and you have to eat the entire cost, which was around 50k. This was Toyota Canada Btw.

Never thought I'd see the day where Toyota made GM look ethical.

Tech at Hyundai told me to get the 5w30 oil out of the Santa Fe and replace it with Rotella 15w40. Said the 5w30 was used to meet emission reqs. I did what he advised.

This is a marketing ploy to cover up the reality that the single main bearing clamp is just a faulty design.

Holy Hell dude. You have more 'right stuff than I ever had. And I was an AME for 40 years!

They offered a 11 year 150k warranty to me. This was on my 22 back when i bought it, way before any recall. I'm glad i purchased.

Nobody makes anything any good anymore better just keep your old vehicles

No way they will replace every engine. They will have some type of inspection, good point on the oil pickup screen, maybe an oil analysis. No signs or symptoms then no repair. Just look how they handled the rusted frames, holes in your frame and they replaced it. No hole, you got a spray job. Consumers need to be pushing for an extended warranty. I still don’t understand how debris are consistently causing the #1 bearing to fail and not other random components. Don’t the turbos have oil inlet screens that would also get clogged?

Thank god I backed out and kept the 18 . Thank you!

Great video, very informative and factual without bias. Thanks for posting and sharing. I bought a 23 Tundra that has a build date of May 23. It is my first Toyota in over 40+ years of driving. I was targeting buying my wife the new Land Cruiser or 4 Runner next year but now I will sit back and wait to see what happens. I've owned GM products my entire life and may go back here. Being an engineer and backyard mechanic, I tend to think this problem is much more than "debris in the engine" and will likely affect all V6's produced over time until they address the true root cause, whatever that might be. I have to agree a short block is an unacceptable solution as there are way too many variables that can go wrong with a field rebuild on an engine of that complexity. I have a little over 11,000 miles and have had several minor issues already with the most concerning being rough idle for a few seconds after starting when the truck sits for a day or two. Until this gets solved, I am hesitant to take the trip on a cross country trip which is disappointing. Time will tell but Toyota, please stand up and come out with more information on the root cause as well as the full scope of affected engines. Also, anything other than a long block would be the end of the line with my new Toyota relationship if this happens to my engine.

Shoulda had a V8. That engine is so complicated. I like the looks of the truck. But, I knew they made a mistake as soon as I heard this was the direction Toyota was going.

There’s only one person I would want working on my Engine and his name is AMD from the Car Care Nut channel

Looks like they were forced to offer a recall. There was a similar issue with the Bronco issue. It’s considered a safety issue if you pull out in front of incoming traffic and your engine goes out. The max was excluded because it has a hybrid system and will still be under power.

Thanks dude. Keep us updated.

If they just now figured out the issue, then 24's will be affected

do you think the turbo charger bearings could be damaged?

Say they send a short block. What is the cleaning process for everything else that oil comes in contact with?

This is the 2nd Toyota engine recall. Back when I worked there, we had piston ring recalls on the 2.4L 4 cylinder from the 2009 era Camry/Rav4/Avalon. Fun times.

toyota needs to do this right and give the full assembly. NOTHING LESS.

this is a nightmare, do you really think they are going to get this all put together correctly? I don't think so. I took my truck in a couple weeks ago for a simple service and they left off a couple of screws that hold my skid plate.

High time to put back oil pressure gauge for any ICE cars or trucks that cost more than USD30k?

So if crate engine is solution, would seem like there’s a lot of these used engines on market. Assuming the old engines are discarded, would it be a “deal” to buy one of these and do the work to get the debris remidied?

Jr great video. Why are the hybrid versions of truck not being recalled only gas models? Aren’t they the same engine block? Or different. I’m assuming one was cleaned better than the other during manufacturing?

Oh man what an awful situation. The short block approach is nearly the worst outcome. The only thing worse is not having any recall at all. Everybody knows most mechanics these days are not up for this kind of work. I feel bad for these owners.

Looks like I’m holding onto my rav4 diesel for a while longer and yes it’s a 2.2 diesel I’m from the UK not many tundras sold here but definitely worth checking out the engine in case they put it into another model

I wonder what they going to do? If debris was the case , is it floating around the oil pan ? THEN the oil pick up screen should of filtered it out , or is the debris in the oil galley and plugging up oil passages that supplies oil to bearings. How can u tell if debris are in oil galley without tearing the engine apart?

Are the same Toyota with the same engines in Australia, but made in Japan, have the same issue?. If yes, it is then a design issue. 🤔🤔🤔

This is why you wait about 5 years to buy a new model.

I’m not convinced that it is debris left over from manufacturing. I have a 2024 and I find that the oil has a strong gas smell to it by the approximate time I am half way through the life of the oil between changes. I wonder if the direct injection system is dumping fuel into the cylinders which causes bearing wash. Couple that with a prolonged oil change interval and you have a recipe for bearing failure. Not sure if I am right or wrong but just sharing my observations and thoughts. I’m changing my oil way sooner now on. Fingers crossed it’s not a Lemon. Plate C

My 23 thunder is now the engine light on and there is no power at all when you go and you can hear a loud noise from the engine?

How is it at this stage of engine engineering, AI and a hundred plus years of engine making experience we are reversing progress. We are looking at the best, longest lasting engines from 20+ years ago…? Should we not be able to buy better engines today than 20-30 years ago?

I am a loyal Toyota buyer and through the years they have always fixed issues and stood behind the products, however I am not happy with how they have handled this issue they SHOULD replace them with a Crate Engine PERIOD! In the past they replaced entire Frames for Tacoma owners with rust issues and for a customer peace of mind they should offer a Crate engine because anytime you have to tear that many working pieces a part there is ALWAYS a high risk it does not get put back correctly or within spec.

What's the turnaround time on a job like this? I see a big debate around the flat rate pay for the warranty work versus actual time. I couldn't imagine depending on these for business in this situation - sure the works free but the downtime would be devastating

Anybody seen any symptoms or are the just straight up siezing? I made a uturn on a back road and floored it, the engine shut off had to pull over went to start it back up, wouldn't start bank up had like a 30 second delay. Finally started back up thank goodness cuz I'm 3 hours from home with my 2 kids in the middle of south Georgia. I hope I make it home that was an hour ago now thankfully oil pressure is good, voltage is good it's not running hot. I'm super nervous being out here in the boonies

So, toyota changed my short block on my 22 tundra back in the middle of this past February. DO you think it will last after being put back together by my dealership ? At very least, I will send my oil to Blackstone for analysis, but I am worried and selling the truck means taking a loss...mechanics for toyota out there, I would love to hear opinions ....

My theory is that it has to do with the cast iron bearing caps embedded in the aluminum ladder casing or the new non resin coated metallic bearings themselves. My theory is that the differential expansion of aluminum vs iron is causing the bearing caps to "move" out of tolerance. It starts with just a little play, but that increases over time (just like a small leak always increases over time). Solution: maybe go back to resin coating? Maybe lose the cast iron caps - stick with 1 material with 1 thermal expansion rate? Thoughts?

Is this recall for the 24 Tundra as well? Is the Hybrid type is excluded? This is a great video, thank you. I love the 1794 edition. man, what a truck!!!

Just wondering…. If Tundra owners take out the oil pan and pick up oil tube and clean them thoroughly and adding an extra oil filter on line…would there be any chance of saving the Tundra engine before be replaced? 🤔I’m referring to those vehicles involved in the recall without symptom yet….

That whole engine looks like a nightmare.

Ugh! 100k or more tear downs and rebuilds! What a nightmare. A few, not related to your shop’s work on this, have not been happy with how things we reassembled, eg, left things untidy, splatters of coolant on the engine space and chipped or damaged body components that were factory painted but damaged during reassembly, ie, sloppy work. Probably gonna take a hit on resale value on known reworked trucks.

this is ajoke i would never let u or anyone rebuild my new engine ... have a good day

I was throwing around the idea of getting a 2019 LS500. I know that engine is tuned differently for the Tundra but I’m watching to see if the v6 turbo in the LS has this issue. My 2004 LS 430 v8 has 320,000 miles smooth as butter, 28mpg

Debris damages the same bearing every time? Very suspicious. This sounds like a mistake that the Koreans would make.

I gotta ask are the Hybrid motors affected to? I have a 24 IForce max hopefully mine will be ok.

Are you finding metal chips in the sump?

Do you think tacomas will have the same issue ?

If Toyota would replace the engine, can I ask for a V8 instead?🎉

*Please answer me straight: Did Toyota spec a NEW PART-NUMBER for the short-block? or is it the same part as the original?*

Why didn't they include the Hybrid? Wasn't its block made in the same place? All they did was add an electronic motor to the back of the engine? Right?

Hey just to confirm It’s not a tolerance issue with original components installed in engine its particles left by cutting process during machining of the engine block.

I would demand a crate engine. If it is small metal, it is all over the engine and impossible to totally remove.

Unfortunately i believe the days of toyota being the best is over

Just another reason to keep my 2013 Tundra, with 220k and no issues at all!

So just for curiosity can a used 5.7 engine be installed in the new trucks without a major headache asking for a friend

Are you seeing debris in the oil pickup screen on the engines that failed?

Does anyone really believe that in modern times and building millions upon millions of engines that "debri" is all of a sudden a problem?

Currently, there are no qualified mechanics in any dealership. All we have is parts changers. Besides all dealers would have to double their staff and have half of them just rebuilding engines for 40 hours a week, and get paid warranty work which would be $200.00 a week.

But….pulling things off and looking for debris is likely to miss ones that have had debris 20k miles previous and scored or abraded internal components. Then subsequent oil changes may have flushed out debris so it’s no longer visible on simple inspection. However damaged internal components would still be there and prone to early failure. I feel looking for debris would not be sufficient to rule out the issue.

I dont believe its a "debris" issue either. Toyota has been making engines for some time now and all of a sudden they forgot how to clean a motor after machining what ever. I think the engineers made the main bearings and rod bearings too narrow to save engine space. Yes the motor is 1" shorter or whatever but lost all reliability. If an engine doesnt have a solid bottom end with wide enough bearings to support the load its worthless.

Dealers are Not engine builders! No way I would allow this on my Toyota!

I need to get my hands on one thats being replaced and rebuild it to swap into an 80s toyota pickup

Machining debris my back side. Turbos working a little 6 cyl to produce the power of a big V8 and does this engine have an off-setting the crank 10 deg to get a less friction more unbalanced crank? rippin out mains is unheard of nowadays while the rod bearings are holding up just fine. That's my opinion and no one is talking about it.

I don’t believe for a second is debris left in the engine. How about when they have swapped engines already and still failing, was that debris again? I bet it is something else and Saying they left debris in there is as bad, that is one of the worse things you can do to an engine. The quality control is not there. They have lost credibility period.

Let's be clear isn't the hybrid version using the same exact engine? Why aren't they being included?

Good explanation. Time to send my oil in for analysis.

If this issue of spun main bearing was caused by uncleared machining debris leftover from the manufacturing process, then wouldn't all the connecting rods be effected equally? Why aren't all of them cooked? Why would only the front 2 connecting rods be disproportionately under-cooled / under-oiled? How would debris only get in the main bearing and no where else?

JUNK .

The 2024 Tacoma transmission recall incoming.

Do you see the same issues with the hybrid engine? It was not part of the recall.

Hyundai had the same issue, they just give us a new long block to install. Sometimes we have to do a short block build but the bottom end is already assembled and the heads get sent out for a rebuild

Interesting to cut open the oil filter on un-failed engines to see if metal is present. This is a huge cock-up by Toyota.

This looks like a COROLLA engine.. fuck that spending 60 to 80k and going through this...

They need to man up and give us a complete long block! Those connecting rods look like they got pretty darn hot to turn that color already.

The oil pickup porting looks massive chances are its sucking air or there is cavitation of the oil. Nobody is stating oil light coming on when the engine fails. Suggesting the pressure is fine but foaming oil doesn't support engine bearing load.

Machining debris; uh huh - for three model years? Beyond firing those responsible for poor QC/QA, what are they supposedly developing a remedy for? And if the "machining debris" is the cause of the damaged crank and rod bearings, what is causing the obvious oil coking of the front of the crank journal and rods? I call Bravo Sierra. Toyota must take us for fools. I wish they had stuck with either the proven 4.7L, or 5.7L, and spent their R&D time and money on adapting those motors to a 10-speed transmission.

Problem is they use defective bearings!! They had the same issue in engines back in 2010… The problem is with the displacement of a small engine, trying to get more horsepower.. Put back the V8 engines. They have no problems with those engines and the government mandates for better fuel economy, which ain’t gonna happen now they raise the standard to 50 miles per gallon which ain’t never gonna happen unless it’s a hybrid/EV garbage…. Toyota needs to get back to basics . People want more affordable vehicles not outrageous prices…

And I thought the head of engineering said they test these engines for a long time before they put them in these trucks. My Toyota contact said its all the ones manufactured in the Alabama facility .

I'm curious what is the flat rate labor time on the short block replacement? Also, kinda funny that Toyota is having the same "debris" problem that has plagued Hyundai/Kia.