awesome comparison. i always thought the 22mag at ranges less than 100 yards would do more damage. apparently not. the .17 also seems a lot more accurate in your video. I'm glad I have one. thanks for the comparison.
Speed & small meplat always dents steel more. Like all tools there's a tool for ever job . Where I shoot pests are on the lager side so I got a Lithgow crossover in 22magnum. I have not used any premium ammo yet just maxi Mags , they work real well on game just not the most accurate at 100 yards. I like our little 22 magnum lever action as a light walkabout rifle with open sights , it does the job on small pigs & goats just fine. I would like to see a 5mm or .20 cal magnum.
Yes the .17 only has 245ft lbs but all that energy is transferred into that soft target it has a higher energy dump than the .22mag. Where as the .22 continues on through and doesn't use up all its energy on the target and there is almost little to no bullet expansion or fragmentation either. its a debate that no one will win ive had great success with the .17 and I still love shooting both rifles.
+kaapow190180 I've got a Ruger heavy barrel in 17 wsm that will out shoot both of them . I have shot ground hogs at 250 yards all day long . I shoot the federal 20 grain 3000 fps it is a bad little round .
@@20cameron1 .17hmr penetrates further and dumps all its energy. .22wm wont dump all its energy so there for the .17hmr is actually delivering more enrgy
Hmm, I honestly didn't expect the 17 to chew up the metal like that, I thought the 22 would do more damage even with the lower velocity due to its heavier weight, but damn, powerful little round :)
The .17 HMR looks like it is more powerfull because it dents the steel plate, but that is because it has a smaller profile so the energy is more focused. The .22 actually has more killing power because it delivers more energy to the target, it's just spread out a little more.
Great grouping especially with the 17 and speed always Trump's armor but the 22 mag is a great rifle also they both have more power than most people think how many yards was these shots taken from
The 17hmr is a very tame round even at the muzzle it only kicks out 250FT lbf for a 20grain round and 245ft lb for 17grain round. You should try the 17 hornet the smallest 17 hornet is twice as powerful, 20 grain is 3515ft per sec which is 2396mph or 3 times the speed of sound + an additional 100mph 😱😱& 549ft lb of energy those are some crazy stats they do upto 30gr for longer range and if you wanna shoot bigger game but not as fast so the energy does not change that much at the muzzle only down range . Now The ..22hornet might just penetrate its boasts the following figures ( vmax 35Gr 3060ft/s 728ft lbf or the heaviest round at 55Gr 2656ft/s 859 ft ibf) crazy figures right? for something so small I would love to see a video no 2 with those rounds😀. The 223 Remington or the slightly more powerful 5.56 would go through 2 or 3 of those but too easy lol.
It sounded like the .17 had less muzzle blast (i.e was quieter) than the .22 Mag. Is that your observation as well or can you even notice the difference?
Yes, though some of it depends on ammo and barrel length. Out of my A17, the Hornady VMax is a little quieter than the CCI A17 branded ammo (subjective caveats apply). The 22Mag out of a 24" barrel bolt-action is noticeably louder than any of the 17HMR in our shooting. Neither rifle has a muzzle brake or other device attached.
17 HMR 245 pounds of kinetic, 22 WMR 330 pounds of kinetic energy. If your shooting things bigger than squirrels and crows you need the 22 WMR. I have shot coyotes many times and had them run off same with feral cats. I use the Hornady 30 gr. V-max at 2,200 fps.
Wildman you don't have to talk tough to me to feel like a man. You shoot animals that don't die just to let them go off and die a slow and agonizing death. Maybe one day that will happen to you if my prayers come true. I guess you feel like a man talking to women like you do also. You are a joke like other hunters. I bet you that if you were to be in a position to have to hunt other men that had the same chance a killing you as you did them you wouldn't even take that chance. You prefer killing innocent animals that can't fight back. Your an example of a loser.
Freak,why do you have to bash Americans? Imagine you buy .22 mag and Ruger 77/22 Both American! .17 HMR is a great groundhog killer,guess your friends just can't make a good shot? Enough said......
