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24 Chopin Etudes Difficulty Ranking (Easiest to hardest) 

Shijun Wang
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As Rhein-Neckar-Zeitung Heidelberger described, “Shijun Wang is a fascinating, serious and sensitive musician” As a solo pianist and orchestral soloist, Shijun Wang has performed in California, New York, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, Utah, Connecticut, New Jersey, Indiana, Idaho, as well as Germany, Spain, France, Norway, China, Mexico, and Japan. Under one of the most prestigious artists management, 100 arte, he plays concerts in most of the major cities in China each summer, and he also gave masterclasses, lectures, and recitals in more than half of the major Chinese conservatories including Shenyang Conservatory, Xi’an Conservatory, Harbin Conservatory, Sichuan Conservatory and Jilin College of Arts. He was appointed as the youngest-ever visiting professor of Xi’an Conservatory where he would give concerts and masterclasses for two months each summer. He serves as a piano faculty in the East/West International Piano Festival in South Korea, The Puigcerda Music Festival in Spain, Baylor Piano Summer Institute, and the Lancaster International Music Festival in the summer.
Dr. Wang currently teaches as an Assistant Professor of Piano at Baylor University. He received the Bachelor of Music and Masters of Music degrees at The Juilliard School studied with Oxana Yablonskaya and Joseph Kalichstein and a Doctorate of Musical Arts degree at Eastman School of Music studied with Nelita True. His mentors have included Thomas Schumacher, Dan-Wen Wei, Alfred Brendel, Emanuel Ax, and Richard Goode.
In this series of piano tutorial videos, Dr. Shijun Wang will perform and share useful insights on his solutions to many of the technical and musical challenges of Chopin's 24 Etudes.

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@purpleAiPEy
@purpleAiPEy 3 года назад
i think i’ve accidentally been trying to learn them in reverse order...
@Zephyrus47
@Zephyrus47 3 года назад
Cause they're cooler. It's natural.
@katarinaenright5404
@katarinaenright5404 3 года назад
Same dude
@martinschulze5399
@martinschulze5399 3 года назад
same xD
@wobster109
@wobster109 3 года назад
Same! I've been learning the ones that sound cool to me, which happen to be loud, fast ones lol
@xuly3129
@xuly3129 3 года назад
The first one I did was Op 10 No 1.
@etudeando
@etudeando 2 года назад
Honestly I think that: the fact of "how difficult is a piece for you" depends of what technique deficiency you may had. To me Op 10 no 1 is not that difficult once you teach your muscle memory your wide hand position. This Etude literally made phisical changes on my right hand.
@speeddemon2901
@speeddemon2901 2 года назад
Try playing that in front of audience without any wrong notes...thing is if you make a mistake it is recognisable because its just one hand doing arpeggios and other doing the base line. It is like singing but you have minimal backing track trying to mask your errors...for example op 25 no 11 and also 12 both hands are very active like you can sort of mask mistakes through the overwhelming key strokes
@hadcrio6845
@hadcrio6845 Год назад
¡¿Qué?!, eso no me sucedió.
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 6 месяцев назад
99% of the recordings of 10, 1 are unevenly played. You can really hear it if you slow the recordings down. It's a really difficult etude.
@reynardmoses
@reynardmoses 3 года назад
good analysis, thanks ! keep making these videos and sharing them to many people ! you're one of my inspiration.
@haohuang1162
@haohuang1162 Год назад
Those are such wonderful and thoughtful suggestions!! Just discovered DR. Wang’s piano tutorial videos. Loved it instantly! Thank you Dr. Wang for your generous sharing your knowledge to help all the piano lovers and learners!!
@simonparker4992
@simonparker4992 3 года назад
Intelligent and measured assessment. Sensible to put them into groups, rather than ranking.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Simon! Please subscribe for newest updates :)
@user-wk8cf8wx1d
@user-wk8cf8wx1d 3 года назад
*Level four* (easiest): Op. 25 No. 1, 2, 7, 9 Op. 10 No. 3, 6 *Level three* (okay Level): Op. 10 No. 5, 8, 9 Op. 25 No. 3, 5, 12 *Level two* (difficult): Op. 10 No. 4, 7, 12 Op. 25 No. 4, 8, 10 *Level one* (deadly): Op. 10 No. 1, 2, 10, 11 Op. 25 No. 6, 11
@canman5060
@canman5060 3 года назад
Leopald Godowsky studies on Chopin etudes are the deadliest !
@canman5060
@canman5060 3 года назад
There is a easy way out for Op 10 No 1.
@user-wk8cf8wx1d
@user-wk8cf8wx1d 3 года назад
@@canman5060 what easy way out? What do you mean?
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
easy way out? Willing to share?
@Awesome-oh7op
@Awesome-oh7op 3 года назад
@@canman5060 an easy way out for Op10 No1 is to practice and practice 😂
@MaytaLiu
@MaytaLiu 3 года назад
This is so useful and insightful. Thank you very much for these analysis! Also Really great to hear someone talk about these etudes from the perspective of biger and smaller hands!
@carlosazambujayt
@carlosazambujayt 2 года назад
Amazing and very useful video. Thank you very much for the whole series!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 2 года назад
Thank you Carlos!
@ripplingwaterz123
@ripplingwaterz123 3 года назад
Love your speaking and teaching and playing. Please put out more videos like this!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thanks. I will
@olakolade6656
@olakolade6656 3 года назад
Very interesting! Very informative! Now I know in what order I should learn these when I become skilled enough.
@Kylebriankelly
@Kylebriankelly 3 года назад
A fine analysis. I especially enjoy your rationale and appreciate the examples! Thank you for this. Definitely worth the time to watch and rewatch.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! Appreciate it
@bboyhanvzla
@bboyhanvzla 3 года назад
2:46 : so, ah! that's the easiest one! I see...
@gordonjang8461
@gordonjang8461 3 года назад
The problem with Op 25 no 2 (Bee's Etude) is that many pianists dumb down the technical difficulties of this piece when they perform it- either they play it slower then what is indicated and/or they add heavy rubato. In an exam setting, you will not lose marks for doing this but the problem is you will be missing the technical benefits if you play this piece without strict adherence to the tempo marking. For some reason it is considered appropriate to take great liberties in how you play Op 25 no 2 then it is any other etude. If the Bees Etude is played up to speed and smoothly with very little rubato (like a computer midi) it is the only way to develop the lightness and evenness in the right hand that this piece is supposed to develop. If you play the Bees etude in this way, perfectly like a computer midi, I do not think it is nearly as easy as it seems.
@vincent-ataramaniko
@vincent-ataramaniko 2 года назад
@@gordonjang8461 Agreed. Playing it at the speed Chopin suggested is very hard. Any mistake will sound like you broke the piano.
@laughia7311
@laughia7311 2 года назад
@@gordonjang8461 "Than", is the correct word, not "then", in both instances of your usage of "then." "Than" is used to compare things, as you did. "Then" is used to indicate a later time or something following something else in time. Other THAN that, I agree completely with what you said. It holds for deciding on fingerings. One might finger a piece at a slower tempo with a fingering that won't work nearly as well at a faster tempo.
@JerryEboy69
@JerryEboy69 3 месяца назад
@@gordonjang8461True, but I’d play it how it was intended. And oh - it’s an “etude”, a “study.” Therefore, you are absolutely correct. This is meant for practice>performance pretty much
@timotot123
@timotot123 3 года назад
I believe technically one of the biggest challenges in view of playing Chopin Etudes as a cycle is going from Op 10 No.1 to Op 10 No.2. They're not only the most difficult studies but the adjustment from one to the other takes a lot of will to pull them off fluidly
@virginiarogers6034
@virginiarogers6034 3 года назад
Thank you for you commentary, I found it very informative. I have recently finished the butterfly etude, my first chopin etude I will likely next start one of the easier ones as a good introduction to Chopin.
@Andrea-yu8vf
@Andrea-yu8vf 3 года назад
I discovered you today and you are an amazing teacher, you explained everything very well and clearly. I'm currently learning op 25 n 5, it's the first Chopin etude for me!! Btw, I think you deserve a looot more subscribers than you have now, please keep up with your videos!!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
I will Andrea. Thank you for your support
@bitter8951
@bitter8951 3 года назад
wow, 25/5 is one hell of a first chopin etude. May i ask what made you consider choosing that rather than say, 25/1 or 10/9? Im already working on my sixth chopin etude (10/12) and im still terrified of even starting 25/5. Mind you i havent started 25/5 so my opinion is kinda skewed that way.
@Andrea-yu8vf
@Andrea-yu8vf 3 года назад
@@bitter8951 I was choosing between 25 1 and 25 5 and in the end I decided to go for 25 5 because I liked it more and I wanted to learn a bit more challenging piece. I didn't find it too hard, except the second part of the middle section was a bit difficult to speed up. It's a fun piece, o recommend you to learn it
@lastwhisper4057
@lastwhisper4057 2 года назад
@@bitter8951 Your going for 10/12 ? It seems incredibly difficult but everybody seems to think it's an easy one
@bitter8951
@bitter8951 2 года назад
@@lastwhisper4057 have you tried it yourself? i can say with certainty that it wasn't all that difficult. The difficulty was more so in the interpretation imo. Or well then again maybe it's just me. I'd love to know what YOU think.
@leoinsf
@leoinsf 3 года назад
Magnificent reasoning and brilliant playing! Down-to-earth explication of these difficult pieces! Thank you!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you!! Appreciate your positive feedback
@ritaireneguzmanaldeco6110
@ritaireneguzmanaldeco6110 3 года назад
I needed this so so much! Thanks a lot for doing this video!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Rita! My pleasure
@carluy7351
@carluy7351 3 года назад
Ive been meaning to finish a first Chopin Etude. I wasnt aware I was trying to tackle the harder ones which is why I could never finish them! Youve really demystified the Etudes for me, and Ill be sure to look into the "Easy" category when I can.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Go for it! Best luck
@Stafmans
@Stafmans Год назад
Wow, with you every etude seems so easy to play, at any level ! Thanks for your video, its wonderful and give me some hope. Greets from Belgium. François
@AbnormaalTsi
@AbnormaalTsi 3 года назад
Detailed and well-explained, thank you Dr. Wang!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you for your feedback:)
@nymbledigitz8453
@nymbledigitz8453 3 года назад
Such great analysis! Thank you :D
@rinsim
@rinsim 2 года назад
I agree with everything apart one thing: the name of the four categories should be: - transcendental - extremely difficult - very difficult - difficult
@Jane306
@Jane306 2 года назад
seriously. now i'm learning the aeolian harp and it's not easy at all :(
@JuanPablo_Piano
@JuanPablo_Piano 2 года назад
​@@Jane306 Hi, just in case if you are still learning it or you left it. Personally, I think it was more difficult to me to learn to play correctly Op. 25 No. 1 than (giving an example) Op. 25 No. 12, because one of the important things is to play with a very delicate touch. To avoid tension, you have to do a specific movement with your wrists, a rotation or "circle" that will help you to play faster and more comfortable. Take into consideration that when you play the piano you don't use only your fingers, but also you wrists, forearms, and so on, and in this specific piece it is essential. If you want to understand it, check this video that Josh Wright did about it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ofQ99m7cWNM.html Once you learn both etudes, I do agree that performing with full accuracy Op. 25 No. 12 is harder.
@aidankoop2110
@aidankoop2110 2 года назад
This has got to be the best guide for the Chopin Etudes I have ever come across ever. Currently learning Butterfly and Revolutionary Etudes right now. I don’t find them as difficult as the Thirds, Waterfall, Ocean, and Torrent Etudes for sure. I too have big hands. Thanks for an amazing video!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 2 года назад
for people with big hand( like you and me) the absolute hardest is opus 10 no 2!!
@marcostramaglia3153
@marcostramaglia3153 Месяц назад
Amazing thanks so much!
@worshiptogetherwt
@worshiptogetherwt 3 года назад
thank you for sharing this very helpful review^^
@chutdigadut
@chutdigadut 3 года назад
I completely agree with this ranking. I'll never forget how much I underestimated opus 10 no 10 and struggled to find a consistent relaxation all throughout the varying articulations. Clean pedaling is something I also struggle with for this one. However, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly I was able to learn opus 10 no 4 and Revolutionary! I was expecting those to take longer to get to a decent consistency level. Very informative with your reasoning as well. Much appreciated
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you!! Op 10 No 10 indeed is deceivingly hard!! but it is such a great one for training articulation and relaxation..
@ralphplayspiano
@ralphplayspiano 3 года назад
I find your video incredibly fascinating. Op.10 No.’s 10 & 11 were always my personal favorites. I actually never found the execution of the articulation in the A-Flat Major to be difficult, but it’s the only one that I feel like has so many more nuances than would be possible to bring out in the whole 2ish minutes of music. All the different combinations of 2/3 division, playing between the left and right hands - each combination creates a delicate and unique texture! Despite the repetitive wrist motion, musically, No.10 is one of the grandest scopes of work in the Chopin etudes sets, in my opinion. The way No.11 follows has always hit my ears the right way, that I venerate it, even though I don’t personally think it’s as high as your ranking. You (& v.Bulow, apparently) are the only pianist that I ever heard also appreciate these etudes. Most difficult for me was Op.10 No.4. Great content!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Wow!!Finally someone addresses that articulation and nuance point!!!Thank you!!
@sofiachen1529
@sofiachen1529 Месяц назад
This video helps a lot!! Please make more videos like this to rank every levels of composers' pieces. Please rank Chopin's other pieces for us other than etudes.
@leonmaliniak
@leonmaliniak 2 года назад
Fantastic video... My congratulation. I love the way you can play all 24 from memory
@esfeinsguezli7192
@esfeinsguezli7192 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this Video!
@doctorbruno
@doctorbruno 2 года назад
Very very interesting! Thank you so much!
@IvoryStrings
@IvoryStrings 3 года назад
Interesting video ! The difficulty ranking, as you said in the end, doesn't really matter because of our individual hands, but I enjoyed the way you discussed the specific difficulties found in each etudes, and the examples given. (I don't know why but I came here thinking you would discuss the preludes...)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! Eventually I will get to the preludes, right now, I am finishing up the Brahms Paganini variations, and then I will start talking about sonatas by Beethoven Mozart and Hayden:) so please subscribe if you want to hear the newest videos:)
@ValkyRiver
@ValkyRiver 2 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel Have you tried Godowsky? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d9VtzVRaz6Q.html
@SimonParker-hv6uu
@SimonParker-hv6uu 3 месяца назад
I agree. It's not so much the ranking as the insight. The ranking is just a bit of fun.
@rosechen5978
@rosechen5978 3 года назад
Thank you for this video!!! What a treasure for all of us! I especially like how you mentioned several times and emphasized about hand sizes. It is indeed one of the most important factors for me to chose which piece for my students to play. I will ask my students to watch your videos for sure!! Thank you again! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! Happy new year to you too!
@raymondchan9802
@raymondchan9802 3 года назад
What a valuable instruction from you i really enjoyed watching. Thank you so much for your sharing and compassion on piano playing.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
thank you Raymond! I will keep on going.
@johnmiller599
@johnmiller599 3 года назад
Thank you this is so helpfull!!!
@bjrnevn
@bjrnevn 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much Shijun Wang, for sharing your insights in these wonderfull pieces, not to mention the videos of Brahms 118 and the Chopin ballades! I'm curious to know if you think some of Chopin etudes are indispensable for a pianists development, and if so which ones?
@Humboo
@Humboo 3 года назад
Very informative and interesting! Subscribed after watching this video.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank youn
@jiromarc7873
@jiromarc7873 3 года назад
I miss playing hard core piano again. Now that I'm a bit older, I've neglected to practice like how I did 20 years ago. Revolutionary etude was very easy for me, but now I have to play it really slowly so as not to commit mistakes. I can still play pieces like Claire de lune quite beautifully, but not the faster pieces. I'm also relearning brahm's rhapsody passionato which was my favorite. I need some motivation, and this video gave me some. Thank you.
@timward276
@timward276 3 года назад
are you referring to the Brahms G minor op. 79 Rhapsody? That's a fantastic piece. I think it's the first piece I ever learned that had the contra-A on the piano. It's not super-hard and it's fun to play. It's not as awkward to play as a lot of Brahms, who unlike Chopin isn't usually pianistic. (I struggled with the E-flat Rhapsody from op. 119, which is a lot harder.)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
I think Brahms is awkward like you said before he was always thinking the symphonic sonority which resulted a much thicker texture..
@brutal5230
@brutal5230 3 года назад
Keep playing man. I also quit a long time ago but came back to playing after a while and with practice I can say I'm better than I used to be
@xilopos9461
@xilopos9461 3 года назад
you got yourself a subscriber. truly good content.
@worrellrobinson1467
@worrellrobinson1467 3 года назад
Hey there Shijun or should I say Mr Wang !? I love your presentation of Chopin Etudes very informative as I starting back with piano was encouraged to play some Chopin along with my study and practice thanks Kind regards W,F, Robinson.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Robinson, nice to meet you here:)
@timward276
@timward276 3 года назад
I think you're right on 25/12; it lays well under the hands. I think the challenge is building up the stamina to get all the way through the piece, which doesn't let up at all. I think your rating of it as easier than the Revolutionary is correct, surprising though it may be. I also think it's the most forgiving of all the etudes of wrong notes; obviously you don't want to be sloppy when you play it but if you drop a note or two in those surging arpeggios it will be less noticeable than missing a note in, say, the three slow etudes, or the ones with a thinner sound like 10/1 and 10/2. Fantastic guide overall; this is great. I'm a fairly skilled amateur, and am able to play the easier études (I've performed 25/7 and 25/1 in public; 25/7 in particular went very well). I'd love to be able to manage 25/12 at some point in my life. I learned, sorta, the Revolutionary but I'd be scared to perform it because it was always a crapshoot if I could stay relaxed enough to get all the way through without trouble. The LH *never* lets up.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you for you reply!
@xPainProduction
@xPainProduction 3 года назад
wow, thanks alot for your videos!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you for your feedback!
@jtg2525
@jtg2525 3 года назад
Sir you are a genius. As an intermediate advanced player myself I appreciate your technical insights. You’ve come up with exactly what you need to focus on to overcome technical challenges. New subscriber!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Jonathan, I am not a genius, that’s exactly why I could figure out all these. Many genius that I met can play them easily without knowing how they know.
@yummygopher1065
@yummygopher1065 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel I am unfamiliar with the number rating for difficulty and I'd like to put it in perspective by comparing it to pieces I am playing. The pieces I just finished learning are invention no 1 by bach and sonata in C by mozart. I have been playing piano (and have had a teacher) for roughly five years. You mentioned the first etude was a 7 or 8. Any idea what those two pieces I learned are?
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
@@yummygopher1065 try op25 no 2?
@yummygopher1065
@yummygopher1065 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel I'll take a look at that one. Thank you for your help! Your video and reply are very helpful!
@seriouslysupersonic
@seriouslysupersonic 3 года назад
Great analysis. Thank you! I am currently studying Op. 25 N1 as my first Chopin étude and it already feels like I am climbing such a huge mountain. Afterwards, I might have a go at N9 which seems very joyful and by the looks of it, it isn't that impossible. It will take some time to get there but we'll see. Keep up your nice videos!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! Butterfly is a great choice! Have fun learning them!
@ilovetiananmen
@ilovetiananmen 3 года назад
Excellent video!!🌹🌹🌹😊😊😊
@charlesdavis7087
@charlesdavis7087 3 года назад
Very insightful. Thank you.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Charles. Happy new year
@lewisgottschalk2178
@lewisgottschalk2178 3 года назад
Excellent video content. Sounds like you have all 24 memorized and performance ready.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
yeah, I have them all recorded and posted:)
@SmoothNanners
@SmoothNanners 3 года назад
Amazing video. Thank you.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thanks!
@starplatinum7581
@starplatinum7581 3 года назад
Great video, thank you
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you!
@frederick5197
@frederick5197 3 года назад
Very good video, you deserve way more subs!!
@charanpc7823
@charanpc7823 2 года назад
Amazing.. Thank you so much..❤️
@lilchopin1.
@lilchopin1. 3 года назад
op. 10 no. is SUPER UNDERRATED! It's so depressive and cathartic, it's beautiful💓
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
you forgot to type in which number in op. 10
@lilchopin1.
@lilchopin1. 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel you're right haha! I meant op. 10 no. 6. It's probably my favorite etude!
@jashepoon
@jashepoon 3 года назад
Thank you! Great video and great dog :)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
thank you’ yeah! I love both.
@hjhseo1114
@hjhseo1114 3 года назад
Such a well thought out ranking of the pieces...! Henle should hire you haha
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Haha, that would be nice. Thank you Hayden
@muxbandar9882
@muxbandar9882 3 года назад
Thanks for your helpful video
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
thank you!
@tiburcee
@tiburcee 3 года назад
Really great video !
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! Please subscribe for the newest videos! :)
@mojeo522
@mojeo522 3 года назад
I would recommend doing Plaidy's list before trying Chopin if any beginners are interested. The list is on his book which also is a exercise catalogue (Hanon style)
@meghanspeed2480
@meghanspeed2480 3 года назад
I am so excited to have found your channel! This video is so well organized and well-reasoned. I wonder what you think about how hand size might have some impacts on difficulty ranking? I feel like for pianists who can’t reach a 10th (myself included) that might bump certain etudes up to the next level. However, there are many fabulous pianists with small hands who navigate even the most difficult etudes beautifully!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Meghan, please subscribe to get notifications on the newest videos:) Hand sizes are not the deciding factor, but it is something we have to consider because wide stretch creates tension!
@BwsBoss8879
@BwsBoss8879 3 года назад
Great video, fantastically explained
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Adam! Happy New Year
@BwsBoss8879
@BwsBoss8879 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel Happy new year!
@emielgeerts
@emielgeerts 3 года назад
Hi I just saw your video and wow it’s so helpful! And for the toccata etude, feux follets uses something similar-ish :)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
I am so glad they are helpful! Please share and subscribe :)
@tristansavella3387
@tristansavella3387 3 года назад
Great video, Shijun! Thanks for this :)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Man! How are you? Such a nice surprise seeing you here. Are you still in Canada? I remember that’s where you went after Eastman.
@tristansavella3387
@tristansavella3387 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel Yep - I'm still here! Finally working on my DMA (following in your footsteps :p). How are you? Really glad to have found your video here - so many things I never thought about before.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
That’s great man! DMA and then an academic job! We are doing well, has been living in Utah for 6 years!
@yahyamhirsi
@yahyamhirsi 3 года назад
Great lecture! I watched it twice now and took notes... Thanks for sharing, this is really helpful! Ps: Your puppy makes an appearance at 20:53 lol
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Haha! Yes she did show up
@my-self2278
@my-self2278 3 года назад
This gives me hope
@aleverkuhn
@aleverkuhn 3 года назад
Great video! I think that the gratest difficulty in Op25,2 is the triplet accents on the right hand (something most performers ignore): playing it as 2+2+2 instead of 3+3 makes it very easy.
@abrakadaniel5908
@abrakadaniel5908 3 года назад
Same, it's so hard to play it with 4th and 5th finger
@kyroh-bf2tf
@kyroh-bf2tf 2 года назад
@@abrakadaniel5908 what the hell are you talking about hes not talking about fingering
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 3 года назад
Really nice guidance.
@garvann
@garvann 3 года назад
Superb analysis.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! It’s slightly different for each pianist!
@Prometeur
@Prometeur 3 года назад
Amazing analysis!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
thank you Jason.
@donwong3577
@donwong3577 3 года назад
I've played Op. 10 No. 12, Op. 10 No. 4, and Op. 25 No. 12, and I have to say, Op. 25 No. 12's difficulty is underrated. Learning the piece could be easy, but playing it with nearly perfect accuracy is pretty challenging. Regardless, great list!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! I agree that to play the ocean accurately is hard. But it’s easier than the other pieces you mentioned in my opinion.
@armandoyague6819
@armandoyague6819 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel op 25 n 12 is much more difficult than op 10 n 12 and especially tiring if you played equally loud every note, the pedal can hide some "weakness" in the hand( this works also for op 25 n 11 but not for op 10 n 1 and 2) Sokolov version i think it's the best. op 10 n 12 is comfortable for the hand( i'm left-handed maybe that helps) op 10 n 4 is not and some parts are really difficult, to be rythmical accurate and regular is a challenge, probably harder than op 25 n 12. i also find weird that you ranked op 10 n 10 n 11 as very hard, they are hard indeed but not harder than op 10 n 1,2, 4(in my opinion)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
I see you points! I don’t know why I suffer so much on Op 10 no 10 and 11. To be honest, I have performed the entire set of op10 many times, I am relieved after no11
@jillmcaleese6514
@jillmcaleese6514 3 года назад
Thankyou very much. Very useful. London.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Jill! Stay safe!
@anish7672
@anish7672 3 года назад
In the toccata etude you see the same style in the coda of chopin ballade no 2. It is actually a very good preparation for the ballade.
@tokio4816
@tokio4816 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for mentioning that im currently trying the second ballade and i always skipped the toccata and couple of other etudes from chopin thanks for the advice
@legecla7302
@legecla7302 3 года назад
I agree, no.1, 2, 4, 23 are the toughest, hardest, chopin is one rude pianist ahaha!! But I love him so much :-) ❤️❤️❤️
@tedallison6112
@tedallison6112 2 года назад
I played all 27 Chopin Etudes everyday for app. 3 years-during which I could play anything. These last 3 months I've been playing Gaspard de la nuit Petroushka Islamey ( plus Godowski-Star Spangled & Horowitz's -Starts & Stripes ) All as a set. The 1st 3 I listed are orders of magnitude harder than playing the etudes.. I switched to Liszt 6 Paganini & 12 Transcendental instead as they all require a much higher hyper virtuosity that can then be applied to virtually all compositions. Another fabulous set I do is Brahms/ Weber 14 page perpetual mobile ( 98% LH) followed by Mendelssohn's perpetual mobile, 6 pages predominantly RH & finishing the great Schumann Toccata opus 7.( I also rotate all 545 Scarlatti Sonatas @ a rate of 5-12 per diem) After playing,teaching & concertizing for 66,000 hours I 100% believe all good & or aspiring great pianist need a comprehensive set that has huge technical as well as musical value. Works for me.
@PragmaSolidity
@PragmaSolidity 3 года назад
This page is gold
@magnetoninja7259
@magnetoninja7259 3 года назад
Great job ranking these etudes! However, in my opinion, Op 10 No 11 is relatively easier and I would put it in the intermediate section. For Op 10 No 10, I would rank that as difficult if not intermediate. I would also argue that Op 10 No 12 is one of the easiest etudes, as it was one of the etudes that I started with and didn't have a hard time playing it at all.
@Veuhs
@Veuhs 2 года назад
La Campanella is the easiest because I learned it first…
@Lawyer_Morty
@Lawyer_Morty 3 года назад
Old Brett. Change my mind
@zacksima8333
@zacksima8333 3 года назад
Oh shoot you’re right
@kasenzee682
@kasenzee682 3 года назад
when you can get old slowly, you can get old quickly
@Lewej1
@Lewej1 3 года назад
Oh my god.
@buckylove6918
@buckylove6918 3 года назад
Thank God you're renowned lol. Make it seem easy
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 года назад
Could you please do for the trois nouvelles etudes as well? It'd be of great favour!
@linaatthepiano
@linaatthepiano 3 года назад
I agree that opus 10 no. 1 is one of the most challenging etudes that I’ve ever played, even more than the Winter Wind.
@violinistjaepark8366
@violinistjaepark8366 2 года назад
me: hears the easiest etude. also me: self esteem destroyed.
@martinihenry9792
@martinihenry9792 3 года назад
Really great video and analysis. Is music career the next series or just a video, and if not, what will the next series be?
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
It will be a series, too. My next piece tutorial will be the Paganini variations book I and II by Brahms
@maurobassi4538
@maurobassi4538 2 года назад
yyou make it looks so easy and effortlss!!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 2 года назад
It will always be one of the most challenging pieces to play! For anyone!
@alexvallex5487
@alexvallex5487 3 года назад
Amazing video
@GarySchmidtPianist
@GarySchmidtPianist 3 года назад
My worst memory lapse ever was when I was performing the Op. 10 no. 11 as a student at the conservatory. I have no idea why I thought that etude might be "easier" than some of the others. Not only performing but memorizing it is nuts, at least is was for me. Great video, thx! You made me feel better lol.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Haha! Sometime when I perform this one, I lose the sense of time..
@purpleAiPEy
@purpleAiPEy 3 года назад
90k views. I hope you make videos forever. Also, you could always review liszt etudes’ difficulty for fun. or beethoven sonatas. Bach preludes? the list is endless for video content. (but dont stop the ballade lessons, those are where the real quality is at)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
There is a balance between fun and learning. I should learn to make more “fun” videos!!
@purpleAiPEy
@purpleAiPEy 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel well, as your self appointed youtube advisor it’s clear that the general masses love lists and rankings. And making that kind of video isn’t selling out or something like that, if anything you are bringing more people to learn from your more in-depth videos! 90,000 people saw your video!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Yeah! 90000 people !
@jiancai_nocturne
@jiancai_nocturne 3 года назад
My last etudes is 1. Op. 740/1. Even etude. 2. Op. 740/12 left hand flexibility etude 3. Op. 740/49 octave etude 4. Op. 740/50 virtuoso feeling etude 5. Op. 10/5 black key etude 6. Op. 31/2 mvt 3, m.67 - m.78 , m. 295- m.306, left hand extention etude. 7. Op. 27/2, left hand extention etude. I think it's enough.
@w3sp
@w3sp Год назад
First tier list I mostly agree with! 🙂 I'd personally bump 25/3 up to "level two", 10/12 down to "level three", 25/11 down to "level two" and 25/8 definitely up to "level one". In the end I guess it comes down to personal preference, personal strengths and kinda hands you're equipped with.
@tackontitan
@tackontitan Год назад
I agree with your ranking of 25/8. 25/8 definitely gave me the most grief when I learned it. I'd much rather learn 10/2 or 25/11 all over again than have to deal with that monstrosity. I have a fairly good hand span, but 25/8 is still hard.
@w3sp
@w3sp Год назад
@@tackontitan my span is average I'd say (I can reach a 10th) but it still feels too small/awkward to play my desired fingerings (eg incorporating the 3rd finger for the final chromatic ascend in minor sixths). For the chromatic major sixths at around the end of the first page it's annoying having to use the 1st findet in all the bottom notes :-)
@JG_1998
@JG_1998 2 года назад
25 no. 2 is much harder than people give it credit. keeping it light at that tempo is very hard.
@czeynerlamentemusical8048
@czeynerlamentemusical8048 3 года назад
These studies are preparation to Op.692 and 756 by Czerny, Op.200 by Mayer, Some by Clementi and studies by Thalberg
@1fattyfatman
@1fattyfatman 3 года назад
This makes sense.
@victormontielpiano
@victormontielpiano 3 года назад
Very nice video!! Thank you very much. In my opinion I would put Op. 10 No. 8 in level 2 and Revolutionary in level 3 :)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
I think these two pieces that you mentioned are all on the borderline between levels:)
@edwardwilliamson1863
@edwardwilliamson1863 3 года назад
Speaking of Revolutionary Etude (10:12) have you ever seen Cameron Carpenter's approach to that piece?
@luis_lng
@luis_lng 3 года назад
Good ranking!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you! For your everlasting support
@LAG806
@LAG806 Год назад
I agree, that it depends from hands and technique deficiency, etude op.10 no.1 I played when I was 12 years old but . for example , etude with double notes for me more difficult,than no.1 C dur
@_trismegistus
@_trismegistus 3 года назад
Great video! It deserves better audio quality! A nice condenser mic or something, maybe.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thanks! The recent videos are better. check them out:)
@leonidasm1345
@leonidasm1345 3 года назад
Thanks for your advice. Should we practice the corresponding prelude to a particular etude or should we also practice the preludes in order of difficulty from the easiest to the most difficult. If so, in which order should we begin learning the preludes? Thanks, Leonidas.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Preludes are different! Play them as a whole! They are miniature treasures, but only in whole they shine the brightest.
@angelob.1089
@angelob.1089 3 года назад
Love your explanations. Very insightful! Do you think you could explain why you choose to play the left and right hand arpeggios of Op. 10/11 at the same time rather than as one big arpeggio? Is this purely an artistic decision or are there definite instructions from the composer that many simply do not follow?
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Angelo. I think if Chopin wanted these to be played as one big rolled chords, he would write them as ONE waved line instead of two seperate ones.
@angelob.1089
@angelob.1089 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel - I see. Is there a change in the effectiveness of the study when playing the arpeggios simultaneously compared to when playing the arpeggios as a large arpeggio?
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
@@angelob.1089 if you rolled them as one, it’s obviously more time consuming. So it requires a quicker movement
@volkergrothe9960
@volkergrothe9960 3 года назад
For most of the guys who referred to playing one or more of the Etudes just start a recording of your play and then give it a critical listening. Being able to hit the keys in the right order doesn't mean performance level at all. I put quite an amount of time in 10-1 10-2 10-3 25-4 and 25-9. If you want to reach performance level the difficulty increases exponentially. The easiest to me was 25-9 whilst 10-3 is quite hard to the end of the middle section, especially the chromatic fours. For 25-4 you need to have big hands or long fingers to be able to play the top melody in addition to the accompaniment, but then its manageable. 10-1 and 10-2 is endless practice and VERY slow progress. You won't improve on these just playing them over and over again. There you have to choose a couple of Cortots preparing exercises and make a practice-plan. And you have to practice regularly on those to built up the necessary muscles to get through the whole piece. If you feel a little pain on the top of the right hand in 10-2 it seems do be normal but don't overdo on this one or its going to be very painful, not too long practice on this one, better more often and not so long. I found that its helpful on 10-1 and 10-2 to leave them alone sometimes for a couple of weeks and then start again. I felt that I improved more by not practicing those two for a time than by practicing all the way through - afterwards it was like climbing a barrier which I couldn't overcome otherwise. I am now 55 years old and learning is much slower than in my youth. My piano teacher while high school didn't give me any Chopin Etudes to learn, though I was his best student. Guess it would have been much easier to learn a couple of those 40years ago. But ALL of the Etudes are fucking hard to learn and to bring to a good level. Thats nothing for intermediate piano students because in the end only frustrating (except if they hear something complete different from what they actually play - lol).
@rstmoney3341
@rstmoney3341 3 года назад
I love this video and I'm not even finished with it yet
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you Terence!
@munkiechatchat
@munkiechatchat 3 года назад
Would difficulty also depend on eye-hand coordination? For example, I have no problem with the op.10 no. 9 etude but even at low pace I make ‘landing’ errors in the op.25 no. 12 etude (also because I sometimes don’t know where to look).
@nowkentapplegate5315
@nowkentapplegate5315 7 месяцев назад
Why do so many ignore the dynamics at the beginning of Opus 10 no. 5? Also why do so many ignore the middle section of Opus 10 no. 8 (starting at the d minor 6/4 chord) when the 4 note arpeggios are the easy part? as well as not playing the RH truly softly in the coda?
@PragmaSolidity
@PragmaSolidity 3 года назад
You give me Paul Barton vibes. Subbed immediately. :)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thanks man! Glad to meet you here
@maxwagner3181
@maxwagner3181 3 года назад
Great content!
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Thank you, Liszt. I am learning your etudes:) hopefully I can finish by the end of 2021 and start a series on your etudes:)
@ulyssevandamme575
@ulyssevandamme575 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel I would love that, are you learning the Paganini etudes or the transcendental etudes?
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
Transcendental etudes!
@ulyssevandamme575
@ulyssevandamme575 3 года назад
@@ShijunWangPianoChannel I am looking forward to it. I really like Chasse Neige. Good luck.
@romanmakarevych4483
@romanmakarevych4483 3 года назад
Agreed in most parts, but what about stretches in no.9 op.10, especially in middle and final sections? Personally I find them almost as challenging as that in no.1 op.10 (I can reach tenth, but in slow tempo in left hand also eleventh)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel
@ShijunWangPianoChannel 3 года назад
That’s where the flexibility of wrists comes to help..
@andromedaperseus954
@andromedaperseus954 2 года назад
Just finished 10-5, 10-12, and 25-9 and my teacher assigned 25-11 (!) as my next piece. Gonna be fun haha...
@ravelismyhubby91
@ravelismyhubby91 2 года назад
Username checks out 💫
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