25 Enlightening Secrets in Elden Ring! 

Considering how many bleed builds I fought at the great jar, I instantly realized they were other people's characters

The fact that you can summon Patches for Radahn, but he immediately exits your world is probably my favorite hidden secret I have heard so far

I must have died more than enough times by Astel's "Grab Attack", it frustrated and infuriated me to a great extent. I had no idea it was some kind of "hidden" or uncommon attack, he did it to me every time I went up against him, this is the stuff of nightmares since it is a one-shot as well.

The narrative structure, the calm voice, transitions, footages... bro you really did an amazing job. Congrats! And no doubt Elden Ring is the game of the year.

There's a good secret I discovered recently. Following D's questline, you can give his brother the armor set. If you do, his stance is different while wearing the armor, and it looks like his upper half is always leaning back, kind of unnaturally. What's actually happening is that the silver part of the armor is dominant now instead of the gold part of the armor. If you get a good look at D's brother wearing the armor (best at the very end of Fia's quest) you can get a really good look at how the silver armor is holding up and supporting the gold armor, just like how D was holding up and supporting the silver head of the armor when he was wearing it.

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Addendum for the Patches summon during the Radahn fight: he's got 4 summon signs, but can only be summoned once. As soon as you use one the others disappear.

It actually makes sense for Jerren to wait to enter until Radahn is almost dead. He would want to honor his former boss by joining in the festival, but if the festival fails and Radahn survives, someone has to be around to find fighters for the next festival. If Jerren runs in the first round and dies, but then everyone else dies with him, there's no one left to try again.

I ‘solved’ the “may erudition light the way!” puzzle in the most perfect storm of events possible. I had read it, and somewhere in my brain I went; “that sounds like the name of a gesture, let me check my list”. I didn’t find anything, so my brain went to the “light” part, and I remembered Thops sold the cast light sorcery, so I went to buy that to see if that did anything. Turns out, I had the glintstone key he wanted, so I dropped it off while I way buying the spell. Lo and behold, I got a gesture titled “erudition”. “Cool!” I thought, “maybe I do have to use this gesture, but with the cast light spell active.” So I went back, but I didn’t have the INT for cast light, due to running a faith build. Easy fix, popped on the twinsage crown for the extra INT. Cue my surprised ass when the crown lit up and the door opened. It was then that I realized, a lot of these secrets/puzzles that are super weird, are solved by sheer dumb luck that just so happens to discover the solution.

Vaati, do you think there is any lore reasoning for certain upgrade materials being related to sadness? “Somber” smithing stones and Tears for the flasks?

About Melina cutscene - I got her inviting me to the Roundtable Hold without even entering Stormveil Castle. Basically, got chest trap teleported from lake ruins (where the first dragon is) into cave in Caelid, ran out of it, found site of grace - and there she was, all apologetic and inviting

I can't wait to see how they incorporate the stars/outer gods/falling star beasts into the DLC. I want to be able to go the moon and fight some fully developed space alien monsters.

I just had a thought about Patches during Radahn's fight. I know it's hilarious and well in-theme for him to desert the fight and run when he sees how dangerous Radahn is... but what if he's using the festival as an excuse to collect valuables on the battlefield? The battlefield is well-known to have the bodies of many powerful warriors. Maybe he's not there to fight Radahn, but to restock his wares?

The Astel Line having such variation is really cool! one of the biggest advantages of having youre babies be SO different to the adults is no longer compete for resources with your own young. And thats really easy to see here! it looks like the young Astels are grounded, live above land and are very rocky (probably for protection, since they havent developed their big boy magic powers) while post pupation they move underground, gain wings and honestly just look super freaking cool

I thought that grab attack was common , took me over 35ish try’s to beat Astel . For some reason I was getting anxiety throughout the fight and whenever it disappeared I would panic. Roll at the wrong time, get caught and insta killed. It’s just a really unsettling boss design like an eldritch being beyond our understanding. I was shooketh

Cinquedea is also what Gurranq wields and is the blade that Maliketh plunges into the seal he placed to contain the rune of death. It makes sense that the blade boosts bestial incantations seeing as how he has progenerated them.

Astel, Stars of Darkness not only has that unique ‘clone grab’ but is also the only version of Astel to use the full OST. I think it’s supposed to be the original Astel, the one that destroyed an Eternal City. That would also explain why there are ghosts of Dragonkin Soldiers near the Yelough Anix Tunnel.

Slight correction for the Cinquedea 6:03 The reason it's called Cinquedea or Five Fingers is because the width of the blade past the guard is roughly five fingers wide.

7:48 one other way to remove rot or poison once you've rolled in it, is if you've rolled on it in such a way that only your armor has been splattered, but not your skin, you can simply remove the soiled armor and the rot/poison stops building up on you!

It really feels like there's millions of options when i fight 7 consecutive moonveils at jar dude

Bought the Soul Arts book. So hyped cause I love the world art of these games

In addition to triggering illusory walls, the shackle items can also be used to trigger dungeon trap pillars from a safe distance, making that one hero grave with 3 chariots much easier.

The invisible secrets are the hardest for me, including hidden walls you have to hit. Thank you so much for this.

I was able to figure out the "May erudition light the way!” puzzle thanks to helpful messages on the ground. It made this one fairly easy for myself and I did my part in leaving a message as well showing my character wearing a glintstone hat performing the emote.

An interesting thing about the Falling Star Beasts and Astels are the eyes (at least I think they're eyes) beneath their skulls. The Astels' designs are clearly reminiscent of Bloodborne, but that detail really reminds me of how Insight worked in that world. It allowed you to gain 'eyes on the inside' and eventually ascend to a Great One.

That grab attack is the single most terrifying moment I had in my whole playthrough, the fact that there were multiple Astel and the way how they were dark like shadows made that instant kill even more of a bigger impact.

I actually used that method to beat Radahn my first time. One because he was hard for me, yeah, but also because it felt so fitting that the fight would be this massive battle with a boat load of NPCs. I'd make sure to specifically find the finger maiden last so that I could join her in buffing/healing allies as they fight, but I'd also try to help attack too so that I wasn't just freeloading. I didn't realize how important vigor was on my first run, so I was getting 1/2 shot quite a bit, which made me feel it was fair that I was using so many npc's.

13:00 the bloodhounds fang will do an attack if you heavy or lt and then it will do a heavy backflip and then if you hit rt it will then charge and stab it is quite great for both gaining distance and doing like 500 dog unupgraded

6:00 Small correction: 5 fingers actually refers to the width of the blade (at the guard), not the number of fingers required to grip it. The visual of the Elden Ring version actually shows this which is cool.

10:25 I don't know, if this is already known, but this is an observation I have made about the feathers on notes: - Light gray feathers have always info on how to deal with enemy type - Dark gray feather has info on how to exploit magic type (Gravity's advantage) - Grayish blue feathers lead you to obtain something (Physick + Sorcery) (+ _unobtainable note_ -> armaments) - Pure white feathers warn and help you against evil (frenzy and cursed enemies) - Colorful feathers tell you how to get to hard to get into places and locations - Yellow seems to be for Leyndell I don't know if it has any merit to it, but I think these feathers may have more to them then just "finishing touch". It may tell us something about personalities of these merchants. For example, one having pure white feathers might be a cleric of sorts.

After several hours in pure bow playthrough I found out that short bow has a backstep attack. And it's very useful, especially against enemies that tend to dodge arrows well, like NPC invaders. It needs to be timed very precisely but it's very fun to pull off.

Fun fact about the fingers is the shriveled finger gives you a stealth invade while the other one is just a normal invasion. Also pretty sure the normal finger usually puts you in 1v1s while the shriveled finger usually gives you ganks.

Something I've incredibly curious about is the Eclipse. In castle sol, it's implied that the eclipe could possibly undo death itself, restoring the souls to the undead. It fails, but the mere idea that death or souls is somehow connected to sun and moon is interesting, especially considering how one of the biggest themes of Elden Ring is Regression. Two gods regressing into one, two celestial bodies doing he same

There's also the "despawn" strategy that works on Radahn. At the start of the fight immediately mount Torrent and ride backwards until Radahn's figure disappears from the screen. Take some time to buff and do whatever and then ride forward and you will see that Radahn is shooting at something in the distance. He will then put down his bow, take out his swords and charge straight towards you, allowing you to skip his bow phase

An interesting note, Jerren has been responsible for rousing the fighters at the castle prior to the fight, this may instead be a case of him “funneling” your reinforcements down the spindly lift, hence why there are only sporadic groups of summon signs. With the advent of the meteor and the change of the sky, he realizes it’s now or never and enters the fray. Not a huge Jerren fan, but a fun hypothetical based on the cowardly Patches summon moments prior.

Man that Fia/Jar thing pulling builds from anyone who's done those things online is actually insanely awesome. I'd love to see them expand that tech to include NPC invasions and add a bunch of new invasions to the game that can occur almost anywhere.

Astel's grab attack ended many of my good battles against him. Now i just back up towards a wall when he's below 25% health.

17:57 something else to note about that little icon is that it also shows up when you can talk to Melina at a site of grace aswell.

I love how Elden Ring combines all the previous Soulsbornes games all together into its best iteration with amazing Quality of Life improvements fans have been asking for in the entire series.

I think I like the Recusant theme more just because I've heard the Bloody Finger theme so many times. I actually sheath my weapons all the time! I find it more narratively enjoyable and it's especially fun for PvP where you enter with your weapon sheathed and pull it out to reveal your weapon of choice.

I really wish you had continued making the lore playthroughs like what you did with the weeping peninsula. I loved that video.🥰

17:10 I can't remember who it was. But someone pointed out that there is usually a noble (one of the dudes who has a Cape, a staff, and uses basic glintstone magic) in the ruins that have illusionary entrances. So if theres noble there, then it's safe to assume there's an illusionary entrance

Fully agree with the Haruki Murakami recommendation. I haven't read 1Q84 yet, but Murakami is one of my favourite writers, and Norwegian Wood in particular is by far one of the best novels I've ever read. I know it was mainly a part of the Audible sponsorship, of course, but I do appreciate the sincere love for his work.

Funny thing with the great jar knights: if you go offline after activating them, they will not rotate out if you die. I rotated through until I got a trio without a single katana, went offline, and had fun fighting builds that weren’t ctrl+c-ctrl+v bleeding katanas.

18:10 it'll also put a dot next to the "chat with Melina" option whenever she has location specific dialog. There's a gesture you can get from her at once church.

Fun thing about the Erudition secret, players left messages making said gesture while wearing the glintstone helmets. Thanks to them I was able to solve the puzzle, moments like that are why I love the Souls games and community.

That ability with astel multiplying should happen at half health automatically I’ve never seen it before and always thought the boss was way to easy this would make it so much fun

Even though I wasn't the first one to figure the "erudition light the way" tower out without looking it up, I did manage it. It took a few days of fiddling around. I visited the other tower locations and did crazy stuff like measure the distance erudition can effect the ladder and if it can go through walls (it can). I nearly gave up until I was recently exploring the eternal city as a sorcery spec and I saw a height I couldn't reach. Just for kicks I used erudition to see if some ladder might appear, and that's when I noticed my crown was lite up. That's when I went back and solved that tower. However, its not that hard to think about this puzzle being solved very easily by accident. Most people who spec sorcery are likely wearing one of the glintstone crowns at all times since they give good boost to INT, at least earlier in the game. Its not hard to imagine they'd solve this puzzle merely because they never take the crown off, so it would incidentally light up.

The glowing dot next to the option to replenish new flasks also alerts you to new site of grace dialogue with certain NPCs (not sure about Melina but I saw it in the Nokstella portion of Ranni's quest).

Another theory presented about astels that i enjoyed is that by virtue of them being “malformed”, they might not be the natural progression of a fallingstar beast and could instead be another creation of the nox to combat the greater will, though really i think astel is one of those spots in the lore with a lot of purposeful vagueness that we love so much

I absolutely love the detail of Jerren only joining in the battle in the second phase, once he knows this is likely his last chance to say goodbye to his Old Friend and General and to keep his promise🗿

Somebody probably already mentioned it, but cinquedea is called "five fingered dagger" not because of five fingered grip (?what does that even mean?) but because of it's five finger wide blade.

2:54 I actually figured this one out by myself on my first totally blind playthrough! By a happy coincidence I ended up there after getting the erudition gesture, and I was sporting the Twinsage Glintstone Crown as part of my STR/INT build. I only had to figure out that the hint was referencing the gesture! The magic gate faded out and I felt like a million bucks.

I actually found the Glintstone crown erudition puzzle out myself! I had just gotten done with Raya Lucaria, and was using one to get to the required int for the moon spell. I had already been using erudition for summons because I really like the glowing crystal effect the first time I tried it, and the rest of the puzzle solved itself at that point. I didn’t even know the crown was required until you just said it, only that I’d figured it out somehow lol.

The "attacking without falling off the cliff" I'm pretty sure it only works for lethal falls! My friends and I noticed it and tested out a lot, all of the times i've fallen I haven't taken damage! This could be it's own way to test a fall without rainbow stones

One really great back-step attack is the Golem Halberd. It turns it into a short vertical lunge and comes out really quick for a colossal weapon

2:55 Since I've seen a lot of sorecerers wear the Twinsage glinestone crown throughout most of their playthrough, and since you get erudition from Thops, someone most sorcerers would have helped, I'm assuming the first to figure it out were like me, who just did erudition without knowing the crown was also part of it lol

I actually did figure out the erudition one on my own because I saw the emote earlier and noticed that it made my Raya Lucaria stone helmet glow on top when I did it. I basically fluked into it.

14:47 Awesome kill. I like creativity like that. I would've never expected that if I was on the receiving end lol. I stepped away from the game before I beat it. Same with Sekiro. I have no idea why. The others I've played thousands of hours and even have tattoos from the series. These videos always make me want to play again though, so that's what I'm going to do here today,so thank you.

@vaatividya first playthru i wemt sorcerer build and didn't find this rise till after going thru Raya Lucaria. It said Erudition, i did erudition. Just so happened to be wearing the dual glintstone helmet! Second playthru i went strength build, found erudition and came back here and couldn't get it to work...had no idea why, thought it was a bug. Didn't know the helm was required 😅

The first Astel fight remains my favorite encounter in the game. Until you reach that boss, the rest of the game seems like your normal dark FromSoft affair. And then you encounter that cosmic horror and realize the Elden Ring universe has a lot more to it than past wars for powerful relics.

When speaking of the merchant musicians, you mention their finger work along the “bridge”. On a lot of stringed instruments, the bridge is the point near the bowing/strumming hand that the strings are stabilized. It may be called differently on that specific instrument but typically where you are changing the note on each string and where the finger work mentioned at that moment in the video is taking place is the fingerboard, neck, or if it’s an instrument with frets it could be called a fretboard. Such a small thing to point out and I might even be wrong for that particular instrument but it’s 3am and sharing a small correction on the internet seems par for the course at this hour haha. Great video Vaati!

Fun fact about number 11, I don't know about the serpent blade but if you infuse the Venomous fangs with poison affinity, they will apply the strong Deadly poison that also lasts the full duration instead of half

generally don't mind strategic boss reuse, especially where it's funny like the Godskin Duo, but I was really bummed when I ran into the second Astel. First one is such a shock in this gorgeous arena after going through the lake of rot, that's an experience I wish hadn't been diluted with a second go-around.

Okay I need to thank you for explaining how Sheathing works because no joke since Demon's Souls it's always annoyed me how ever sword has a sheath that goes unused.

For the first secret, I really think that "Stars of Darkness" in the plural sense is meant to imply that you fight multiple Astels, but since they didn't want to literally make an Astel gank fight mechanically (Elden Ring already does enough ganks, and Astel would be ridiculous as a gank boss), they instead had that special attack to indicate that it is a plethora of Astels you are combatting. In a way, you find one of their colonies up North, I'd say, a kind of hive of Astels within the Yelough Anix tunnel mines. It raises quite a few more lore questions as to their nature as a species, and why they are located there in the Consecrated Snowfield (that has some marks indicating it was once a similar place to the underground areas), and whether they are somehow connected to the Frenzied Flame even, since there is the Yelough connection. Personally, I doubt the latter theorization, but who knows?

For #3, just FYI for anyone who reads this, you don't need the gesture or a Glintstone Crown to get the reward at the top of the tower. Instead of solving the puzzle, you can just use Torrent to climb up the ruins around the back of the tower, jump from them to the rooftop, and walk on up. That is unless they've patched it since. I was actually kinda disappointed when I got the gesture and came back because I expected I'd get an additional reward for solving the puzzle, only for it to lead me to the exact chest I already opened.

Now I wish they’d used the player build mechanic for the summons in the Radahn fight. I had already been thinking it would have been really cool if they’d made Radahn an actual raid boss, but this way they wouldn’t have had to actually connect so many people.

On the note regarding the amazing attention to detail, I noticed on the legs of Bloodhound Knight armour, the calves and front thighs are armoured only on those sides. It’s really neat, because those would be the areas of the leg the Bloodhound Knights would utilize the most in order to pull of their crazy combat style. Also, dual Bloodhound Curved Swords. Total 🐐 pair.

The best thing about the erudition puzzle. When I got the gesture I had just been there and thought "OH! this must be it!". I had no idea you needed one of those crowns until watching this video XD I just happened to be wearing one for the Int bonus XD

In reference to the shackles, you can also use them to disable the fire traps in most dungeons. The ones that descend into the floor when you strike them. This gives you a way to disable them from range.

A little discovery I noticed, In Elden Ring, when you sit down on the site of grace you can have multiple sit animations, just like in Dark Souls 1

Heavy thrusting swords are good for lunges, (this is about shield back stepping) I use dragon crag blade on my main account and a sprinting charged attack has a good lunge range like the backstep backwards into attack. Btw nice tips.

God I love those merchants who acts ashamed for not having enough items to sell, I wanna give them a big hug.

The backstep attack works on curved and thrusting sword feints. The feints are really smooth and useful in this game, and MUCH easier to use than in the older games.

With regards to scabbards, and I do apologize if it's already been mentioned or if it's well known, but I found it interesting that when you powerstance katanas, both scabbards appear on the side of your character, just like a traditional samurai would have it.

On my second playthrough when I eventually got to the Great Jar - all 3 phantoms had the pre-nerf Moonveil and I didn't need much more convincing than that at that point that they were players at one point or another.

This video was really interesting, as an Elden Ring fan I feel like I know quite a bit about the game but you take it further by talking about bits that most people breeze by when playing and it happens to be interesting!

14:44 i dont really know much about elden ring pvp but this move where you deflect your own spell for a surprise attack is so damn clever i can't even put it into words

16:13 Wow this is amazing....thought the npcs were strange ...to find out now that they are based on real characters, amazing.

6:37 I did know about the scaling thing and it does my head in. From Software have a bad habit of withholding information that the player needs to make informed choices about weapon upgrades. At least in Elden Ring you can farm/buy almost all Smithing Stones, so it doesn't sting quite so much when you pour upgrade materials into a weapon only to find an objectively better one later...

I actually figured out the crown part of the Erudition thing on accident. I used the gesture, having obtained it after finding the tower and remembering where I had needed it, and just naturally used the crowns since I was a magic-build character and the crowns were kinda funny looking.

vaati its 11:20 pm but i appreciate your eternal grind to understand elden ring

Thank you for exploring the Falling Star Beast and Astel. They are one of my favorite character designs in any of the souls series.

Great video with amazing camera work and scripting and narration as usual, but it's worth pointing out that a hefty majority of the info in this video was in SmoughTown's Eternal Cities video from like 4 months ago. I highly recommend SmoughTown to anyone who wants more long-form in-depth lore content.

I'm so glad you brought up the scabbards. I loved doing this in any fromsoft game I could. Some of those models are really pretty and it's a shame its so vague to pull it off.

I just wanna say something, before the .3 update, astel’s attack used to happen at 75% and less

15:10 There's just something satisfying about sheathing your weapon and looking like a total badass in cutscenes and when talking with npcs. Just adds that extra bit of immersion. Now if only Fromsoft would allow you to skip dialog with subtitles disabled so I can still hear what I want but don't need to sit throught the filler dialog.

So interesting that you recommended IQ84. The first Haruki Murakami book I read was Hardboiled Wonderland and the end of the World, and one of the reasons I liked it so much is that the “other world” that the main character goes through reminded me so much of Dark Souls. Anyway, pretty cool. Love Murakami.

I just love all the little details in this game. It makes it feel so alive and shows how much care was put into it.

I use two Fallingstar Beast Jaws, and they have a wonderful set of animations. The backstep attack brings you forward with a giant overhead slam, followed by another overhead slam from the other jaw.

About the soap thing: I just remove all my armor and cure the affliction. Then re-equip. This removes it from the armor as well. Have to remove armor though.

I've got an interesting discovery on the poison vs deadly poison, particularly something I discovered with the venomous fang fists. If you put a poison ash of war with the regular poison effect like poison mist, the deadly poison effect will occur for the length of regular poison. However, I think it only works if you proc the effect by attacking with the venomous fang (i dont remember if using the ash of war still gives deadly poison). Regardless, you get the best of both worlds.

The Erudition puzzle was actually one the easier ones for me, since there's another one that demands the erudition gesture but without a crown and has a different prompt. The hardest puzzle is Chelona's without a doubt, the area to search is huge and the turtles are way too well hidden.

00:45 Maybe my comment is only true for some older patch but in my experience, the consecrated snowfield Astel used that attack repeatedly at much higher hp. Also I watched my friend play through the whole Elden Ring and he never went to the snowy cave. He encountered the attack on the other Astel (although only once I think) which also surprised me since I only encountered it on the snowy cave one. I think it may be super rare or maybe it doesn't happen on recent patches anymore.

The Lore-Friendly way you make this video and the voice really helps a lot improving the imersion in the game-world of Elden Ring! Congrats!!!

I never watch adds on videos. I always skip sponsored bits too. But man even though the sponsored bit was at the end of the video I still watched it to try give your chanel support. The effort you put into these lore videos have made my experience with elden ring 100x better as I feel like I understand the world im playing in.

The reason why some ledges let you fall and some dont is because of the damage you would take. If the fall would be lethal, theres a barrier, if it isnt, there is none.

Also any L2 move seems to let you fall off otherwise 'walled' ledges, even the tiny amount of movement from a parry. So don't get too overzealous with lance charges or rapier piercing thrusts. The rot damage thing works because not all rot damage is equal, the lake of rot is stronger rot than the swamp by 22 damage per tick. The rot you get from letting the coating trigger is weak "swamp rot", not strong "lake rot". A similar thing is in Dark Souls, where there are different levels of Toxic. So you can intentionally toxic yourself with Dung Pies (the weakest version) to save you from the Blighttown Blowdarter version, which is the strongest version. I think this even works in Sekiro, where the contact medicine is weaker than swamps. For the "deadly poison", iirc it does double damage, but only for a third of the time. However, you can (at least on the venemous fang, idk about other weapons), infuse the weapon with poison through the black whetblade or a poison ash of war. This may seem redundant, however for some reason it actually changes the deadly poison to last exactly as long as normal poison, TRIPLING the duration. Meaning you get double damage from the poison with no downside at all. This is especially good on low-level characters or cheese builds, because you can get a good few hits on a field boss, then go hide and the poison will deal ridiculous damage. I think half of the health of the Night's Cavalry in Caelid which holds Bloodhound Step. For beating Radahn at a low-level, there's a couple of really good strategies (I'm in a 100% RL1 run and learning cheese is basically necessary). First thing, when he gets to phase 2, if you're the only target for him, you can stand right at the edge of the ocean, and odds are good he will bonk into the underwater cliff face and fall to his death. You can use the opaline bubbletear to ensure you don't die in case he actually makes it. The other thing is to get the rotten breath spell (only need 1 dragon heart, easily gotten from agheel or greyoll at low level, you don't need to beat ekyzke, just grab the spell from the church behind him), and you can cast it while on horseback. So begin the fight summoning everyone, and while radahn is busy fighting them, blast him with the rot breath. You can usually manage it quite safely. The spell has VERY low requirements and you can get the finger talisman from the husks in the roundtable. The rot will do extreme damage over time. Meaning you will never get close to running out of summons just from a single cast. You can go in and refresh it for phase 2 if you like, though it simply isn't necessary since you'll have so many summons going spare from phase 1 going faster. (If you think there's no more summon signs, just kite radahn for 1 minute, the summon sign for them doesn't appear until 1 minute after their death). And a tip for anyone doing an RL1 run, Morgott is the hardest boss in the run, so don't fret if you feel like the game is so hard early on. As soon as he is dead, you can get Rivers of Blood, and equip it thanks the mimic tear mask and dex-knot tear/talismans. Another tough customer might be Niall, but remember the pulley crossbow, poison bolts, and blood bolts, are all easy to reach and farmable. He may kill you in one hit, but he walks so slow you're free to gun him down. (At half health he dispels his illusion knights, so don't worry about them too much.)

I actually figured out the weapon scaling thing because when I did 1 level in strength it went up by 6 but when I did 1 level in intelligence, it went up by five. The scaling letter for both was the same.