True academia revolves around begging...for grants, journal editors etc. I think because much of the University research ends up on shelves while industries put out tangible value e.g. products. So more money in the industry than academia
Fuzzy milestones... boy I know that one well. Yep, 2020 is the year I plan my escape. Kind of wish I chose a specialization with more direct carryover to industry and not theoretical plasma physics. But I still have timel. Former graduates and postdocs from my group are stuck in 6+ year postdocs (now promoted without salary raise to "research associate") and perpetual adjunct professorships, not for me! I'm glad I found these videos, thanks.
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I am planning to leave academia and join the industry. Thank you for this video. I wonder if you could please have videos about change in career after 40?
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@@CheekyScientist Thank you so much! I will do that. I think it is also important to mention the culture "publish or perish", which I totally dislike. In addition, academics are mostly theorists, and I would like to walk the talk. I totally agree with your points. I am going to finish my Ph.D. and while I am doing it, I will be looking for ways out. It is very difficult to have family and expenses and change my career at 45, but I am not giving up my hope. Kind regards.
@@esgara8446 So true! The culture in academia is so often very negative and limiting. Never lose that hope and drive - let me know how we can help you along the way! Many of our Associates are still in the process of finishing their PhD, and join the CSA to get a head start on their way out of academia. You can learn more here: cheekyscientist.com/association-learn-more/
The best decision I ever made was to give up an academic job at the University of Oregon. Low pay, cultural isolation, sheer boredom, lousy weather...I mean, what was there to not like? Everything got better once I left.
I like the way you sell it with "meaningful work". It's true that there is meaningful work to do in industry and by mentioning it, you quell what is one of the biggest concerns most acedemics have but perhaps aren't introspective enough to mention. It's good marketing on your part and you clearly know your audience well as a PhD yourself.
Thank you - yes, I understand very well from a PhD's perspective how important it is to do meaningful work, and how much more you can be recognized for it in industry!
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EVERY graduate student, EVERY academic advisor/counselor, EVERY college administrator, EVERY adjunct professor etc. etc. should be required to watch this video....no exceptions !
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I saved this video to watch it over and over and help me move on after I finish my masters. My thesis adviser delayed me and used me as free labor to publish papers... and that's just masters, not even PhD.
My first two jobs before my PhD were in industry, both CRO and R&D. Now i am a post doc since there are too few industrial positions in the country I live. I see a huge gap between industry and academia... and it always comes down to money and training. Very few academics are trained managers. This is one of many huge problems in structure, milestones and results. I miss industry very much.
@@jackp4180 in norway you really need a PhD to get the better jobs. Yes I regret partially. Mainly it is the contract thing, but also you need to publish every year. If you are unlucky like with the group that holds back work, then lack of publications means no grants. Industry demands more professionalism, but you get trained to be managers. So no I don't regret doing a PhD, my supervisor was outstanding, I published two papers with two in pending. But I regret the post doc.
You make some very good points. It makes me feel lucky that I ended up in such a good PhD program where I haven't had to worry about the money or culture.
That is Germany, a total different country. I believe most of this information pertains to Phds in North America. Other countries like Germany, Asia, and the UK really appreciate, highly respect and recognized people that hold Phds. These people are highly respected in the communities, not just at the schools.
@@leonardbrown2543 no sorry even in UK, they are seen as a bunch of clowns. industries are starting to hire more non phds cause the phds dont possess any real world skill. they are only immersed in books.
trying to finish my PhD and i totally agree with many of the points you mentioned. Academia is a very lonely place which as you correctly said politics are n.1 very disappointed about leaving but as you say it's not worth to wait a minute. The only good thing i've achieved during my PhD was to pay off my expenses so i don't pay off a student loan, marry and have children.
