2GGC: Nairo Saga - Echo Fox MVG | MkLeo (Marth) Vs. C9 | Ally (Mario) - Winners Semis 

Nothing special. Ally has been known for his clutch factor, which more often than not is due to his rivals errors. What is more. A lot of his victories until his point comes from top players not understanding that you should not jump above Mario but stay grounded all you can. The reason why Ally was (and still is) so usmash trigger happy, but now ppl in general is more patient agaisnt him and just wait above a platform or at the edge. I dont have anything agaisnt Ally. He is a beast and, to me, the second best player in the world. But what happened there is just Ally taking his own medicine for a moment.

Marth and Lucina win that matchup, its just that zero and mr e are not as experienced with that character.

Draco Pheonix Mr E has been playing as Marth longer than Leo has. Leo is just great.

"Mr E is not as experienced" LOLOL wow

Marth Tipper effect is clutch Mr.E probably abuses that and gets lucky, Leo who doesn't even go for tippers does better than him, that proves that point.

Just because you are confident, doesn't mean anything. You aren't even making a coherent point. Leo is the Marth god. Mr E has been maining Marth since game's launch and was the best for year and a half. Leo is just a better player.

FamilyTeamGaming Can't he upthrow and dair, but immediately buffer fast fall as he dairs to bait out dolphin slash? Never tried it but I'm 90% he can do that.

Jesse Dolphin slash is fast enough to hit Mario before the last hit of Mario's dair. You can air dodge the last hit too.

illuminaughty I was thinking in the same, he said a long ago that hell use DD for Mario bad match-ups but he still without showing him, problaly he think that still not ready or that hes not gonna use the same char as ZeRo... or he straight up he doesnt have practiced it

illuminaughty He said he has a diddy but that probably wouldn't end up working

zero masterize the best character of the game and by far more fast than any character of leo. ally can t have the level of ddk of zero

Sam I'AM but... Leo didn't beat him until Zero saga... Zero won their first two encounters at GOML'16 and KTAR 19..

LinkonarX5 I agree, Ally needs to step his game up. I feel like if he started doing the footstool stuff and being a bit more patient he could beat Leo's marth

ShadowWolf98 If he optimized his combos just a bit he would do much better. He's throwing his advantage state into the trash on the rare occasions he gets it.

Bunkx - yeah, I also think he should bait the up B. Leo uses that a lot as a combo breaker at low percent, if Ally would just shield and flood that it would make Leo think twice about that option before doing it again. I know Ally is more than capable of beating Leo, he just needs to be a little more optimal in his gameplay

ace power I have nothing against Leo, he's a great player without a doubt, but Ally isn't doing as good as he can against him. He wasn't getting as much as he could from his grabs, I feel like he threw out a few too many up smashes, and the fact that he was hesitant I'm his decision making played a big part as well. I love Leo, he's really helped me improve my marth, but Ally can do much better against him than this

I know Ally can't win them all, but's he's had a losing streak against Leo in general that he needs to find a solution right away if he intends on advancing in any tournament were Leo happens to be participating in. Same for Nairo almost always losing to Zero... if Nairo wants to bring home the gold then he needs to get his shit together too and start finding a way to overcome his struggle with Zero.

jaime lopez this season I believe their 0-3 Leo's favor. Lifetime I think it's 2-5 Leo's favor. Ally won at GOML 2016 and WF Canada cup. And Leo won at G4 WF/GF, Zero saga, Nairo saga, and DHA.. Feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect.

+Jonathan Parnes Didn't Leo win two sets against Ally back to at Canada Cup GF? And there was also a local where Ally beat Leo once in WF and Leo made the run back again in GF taking two sets.

Draco Pheonix Well...

Draco Pheonix salem took out your boy

Close enough close enough 3rd place is good did better than the man NAIRO. lol

You was still wrong, and honestly was not that hard to predict Leo would have been at least in TOP 3 at that point of the tournament. Also no offense but the last part "he still did better than Nairo lol" just show how satly you are. ;)

Ryng Tolu Yeah it did sound salty lmao

+LeCoolFace I disagree, the games were pretty close, especially the last one. Don't let the 3-0 distract you from close games.

Clothing doesn't fit personalities though. Ally isn't a lone wolf though, because he has C9.