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2v2 Israeli F-16 Barak Vs Turkish F-16 Viper BVR Engagement | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS | 

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This video is 2v2 fight between the Israeli F-16 Barak against the Turkish F-16 Viper over syria, the idea here is to test out some 2v2 tactics and see some communication between wingman and flight leader.

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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад
Check Out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store Longshot's Channel: ru-vid.com/show-UCszke4C7G1THhlh0puHWZ1g I'm not 100% happy with the way I explained the MAR in this video so let me just type it out here for you guys: Minimum abort range (MAR) is the effective range values of an aircraft's missile. These values change according to the aspect angle, missile type, and altitude of the aircraft. The MAR is also referred to as (RTR) Range Rurn and Run simply stated it is a range off the bandit that if you go inside you can not escape if the bandit launches a missile at you even if you go cold or Turn And Run. The MAR changes based on Altitude (The higher the Altitude the Larger the MAR) and obvs the effective Range of the missile is dependent on what kind of missile it is, AMRAAM, R-27ER, SD-10. So when I say the MAR is 10 miles on the deck that means if I close to 4 Miles from the bandit and he fires a missile at me I have no chance to turn and run away. Only thing I can do is Notch (A topic for another day). This is a very basic explanation of the MAR. I hope you found Helpful Thank you for watching and Thank you to Longshot, AlphaGator, and MasterJay for helping with this video. Stay Safe guys.
@capt-rex2894
@capt-rex2894 3 года назад
i have been waiting for this so much
@DK-ig8zi
@DK-ig8zi 3 года назад
So if the fighter is carrying the Meteor this means that it has a huge MAR right?
@arguywindham1101
@arguywindham1101 3 года назад
@@DK-ig8zi depends on the missile range. From what I understand the Meteor was designed to and does outrage the AMRAAM, by how much I dont know. But if it does outrange the AMRAAM than it will have a longer MAR.
@DK-ig8zi
@DK-ig8zi 3 года назад
@@arguywindham1101 it's NEZ is between 2.5 to 3 times the one of the AMRAAM thanks to it's propulsion.
@berkosmansatiroglu
@berkosmansatiroglu 3 года назад
We prefer greek. But You are not in NATO. So you must add S400 to this scenario. Hi from Turkey.
@maverick24
@maverick24 3 года назад
I always love the wingman 2v2 type fights, shows a really nice perspective of coordination and dogfighting if you get the right group of people
@florianmisof1988
@florianmisof1988 3 года назад
Longshot pulling the g's for real xD
@Boolag01
@Boolag01 3 года назад
Hah I was gona say exactly the same thing!
@pagman798
@pagman798 3 года назад
Ur wingman should wear a g suit before playing or he’ll pass out!
@akira5159
@akira5159 3 года назад
One of the best DCS channel ever keep up the work
@Stinger522
@Stinger522 3 года назад
Channels like yours are the reason why I consider RU-vid to be better than television. Another spectacular performance. I knew it was going to end badly for Master Jay when you sent that AMRAAM at him from six miles. I instantly said well inside the MAR.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад
thanks buddy love having subs like you
@stevengreifswalder7960
@stevengreifswalder7960 3 года назад
this needs to be e-sports!
@acarrillo8277
@acarrillo8277 3 года назад
13:53 That was the missile you fired without lock, it went off and did you guys a solid on it's own.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад
Ahah ya so true
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 3 года назад
Here's something tip I learned that made my life so much easier in the Viper. On the HSD, the OSB labeled "DCPL" stands for "decouple" and means HSD range is independent of FCR range. Change that to CPL mode and now you only have one range setting to worry about. It sounds insignificant, but it was a huge SA breakthrough for me. You can also change "DEP" to "CEN" to center your plane in the HSD, if you anticipate turning cold and will need to keep track of bandits back there. I find that useful in an Amraam vs Amraam fight. I also extensively use a 10-degree azimuth scan on the radar whenever I have datalink, for faster acquisition and to deny a bit of SA to surrounding bandits by not giving them my nails.
@Juda-ss
@Juda-ss 3 года назад
Greeting from Turkey 👍🏻 Nice content
@gizmophoto3577
@gizmophoto3577 3 года назад
Really enjoy the multi-ship scenarios.
@CuteEvie
@CuteEvie 3 года назад
I always learn from your videos but I learned the most by far in this one! Thanks for the excellent content!
@ErnestoHerreraLegorreta
@ErnestoHerreraLegorreta 3 года назад
Same here. Great video indeed!
@CNCTEMATIC
@CNCTEMATIC 3 года назад
Awesome! This is my favourite set-up: multi aircraft BVR, humans v humans. So immersive; the danger feels real, you can hear the clench, and the teamwork is fscinating. I could watch these all day.
@301_tyron5
@301_tyron5 3 года назад
Yes, plze do more 2 v 2 when you can. Their very interesting and informative especially since a modern dogfight will most likely consist of a lead and wingman. Great video as always tho!!
@alfonsobarrado2902
@alfonsobarrado2902 3 года назад
i really like this 2 vs 2 battles, it would be amazing if you could do more.
@yshaihini
@yshaihini 3 года назад
Just discovered you write capital R as I do: first line from up to down, then back up, half circle down and then the last line!!!! Love your videos they’re inspiring me so much, hopefully I’ll soon join the 141st...
@brussell639
@brussell639 3 года назад
I do love the wide open view from the F16. I love it even more from the F22.
@oldmanfunky4909
@oldmanfunky4909 3 года назад
This was educational. I wish I was this good but my pilot name would be "Fodder" I think.
@flankerskioneniner4290
@flankerskioneniner4290 3 года назад
sounds like a real fight
@w0mblemania
@w0mblemania 3 года назад
A very enjoyable video. Thanks for this. It was quite interesting after seeing a few one-circle and two-circle fights.
@Rykaas
@Rykaas 3 года назад
It's amazing how we conquered the skies doing this stuff in real life, and now we're even creating virtual worlds where, in harmony, all those complicated physical laws work together in order to make these dogfights possible
@merak0044
@merak0044 2 года назад
Love this sim. So real! I was a medic(Canada) and went to New Orleans on exercise 429Sqn. Having done my medevac course I was qualified for high altitude. So when they came to me and said the back seat is empty do you want to go? Oh yesssss! It was 4v4. And I was told not to fuck up and not bother the pilot. So I’m sitting in the back and he’s explaining the radar and the task we where doing and all he’ll brocke loose. I was looking around never saw anything think he was at least 25 miles out. But what a blast that was. Awesome and this Sim is so real. All your missing is breathing so hard your about to shit yourself. Never blacked out though but I did have some tunnel vision. Thé outcome of the encounter is we lost all electronics had to guided back to base.
@voodoo7020
@voodoo7020 3 года назад
I learn so much in your videos. I don't even play DCS but I love aviation and it's so interesting and cool. love your videos!
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 3 года назад
As a DCS newbie I wish I fully understood everything you were saying (termwise) and also doing tactically during the fight but I'll just keep watching and learn that way. Love your videos, really fantastic... especially the 2 vs 2 ones.
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo 3 года назад
Here is a Growling Sidewinder tutorial about those terms: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ct-Dl2fW8cA.html
@scubasteve3743
@scubasteve3743 3 года назад
Love these scenarios. No need for the fancy cinematic editing, just go get ‘em.
@flbellman
@flbellman 3 года назад
Wow. The blind spots! I did not know! Thanks.
@702BattleBorn
@702BattleBorn 3 года назад
GS, Great break down of Tacticals and Stratergeries. Always look forward to you content.
@mxkrueger
@mxkrueger 3 года назад
Liked this video a lot! Finally something different than accidental merges and dogfighting. Could you imagine doing a tutorial series for beginners, who know the fundamentals of flying and wanted to get started in DCS? Just some basic explanations and teaching, with missions you can download afterwards. :)
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo 3 года назад
He allready did some combat tutorials. I will link it for you :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WsBWWZpfxhs.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-heAVdt-31gA.html
@C1John
@C1John 3 года назад
More of these multi jets vs multi jets please. Loved it.
@mortlet5180
@mortlet5180 3 года назад
Oh YES! Thank you for another beautiful BVR video.
@Chris-ct1qf
@Chris-ct1qf 3 года назад
Fun fact: Turkey doesn't have Vipers, only block 30/40/50s
@brussell639
@brussell639 3 года назад
It seems that if air superiority warfare is to continue in this manner, an evolution in missiles would be wise investment. I wonder how difficult it would be to make stealth missiles that would give pilots little to no warning at all. Or if hypersonic missiles are the direction they're going, they just are so fast that there is no time to react. Something has to change, there's too many misses the way it is now.
@cychosz
@cychosz 3 года назад
the tac view has been getting better and better i love how you are explaining stuff. keep up the good work
@darylcav6285
@darylcav6285 3 года назад
Impressive teamwork
@System-Update
@System-Update 3 года назад
Great vid, loads to learn, thanks to you and the guys who help make these with you.
@guyb7995
@guyb7995 3 года назад
2v2 taking tactics to the next level 😊
@plyut9539
@plyut9539 3 года назад
Wow 2V2 are so good
@davidrivietz3742
@davidrivietz3742 3 года назад
Best dcs channel
@chaselinken4314
@chaselinken4314 3 года назад
Been wanting to know what the MAR was, and I have been searching for a video from you to explain it...finally found it! Yes! Glad I didn't ask and bother you with it like I planned on haha
@madingahmar4420
@madingahmar4420 3 года назад
LongShot, aka PuckerFactor6.9. Loved the co-ordination. Great video as always brother. May you and your brethren reign supreme!
@LongShotChannel
@LongShotChannel 3 года назад
Hahahha more like 10... I alredy said that MasterJey can paint 💩 to the side of his jet... Because he made me s@#% my pants with that missile...
@SimoneSerponi
@SimoneSerponi 3 года назад
Nice to feel the "combat pressure" in vour voices during maneuvers pal.
@Thopeye
@Thopeye 3 года назад
Big thanks for explain MAR and RWR blind spots , i really learned a lot from your channel 🥰
@GunniesLetsFlyVFR
@GunniesLetsFlyVFR 3 года назад
Great Vid mate. The co operative aspects of wingman to lead are great to watch. :)
@vonShluker
@vonShluker 3 года назад
WOW Engagement 2v2 oldschool???? No f.... dogfights?! Goooood!
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 3 года назад
Thanks guys!
@mickeeand1969
@mickeeand1969 3 года назад
Love your vids. Very informative and fun to watch. Keep up the good work.
@diehardpatriot7251
@diehardpatriot7251 3 года назад
I want to be a real fighter pilot so I find this channel awesome
@dioad1739
@dioad1739 3 года назад
Great video after watching the tach view I know why longshot sounded so nervous another great lesson thanks Bro.
@LongShotChannel
@LongShotChannel 3 года назад
Hahaha... that missile was VERY close... MasterJey can put 💩 to the side of his jet... see what i did there? He made me s#%@ my pants... get it?
@Miracles209
@Miracles209 3 года назад
My brain is a gutter. He says Fox-3 and I hear something else. 😶
@hamzaaks2884
@hamzaaks2884 3 года назад
❤🇹🇷❤
@Osinivos4
@Osinivos4 3 года назад
I have never felt so giddy for a video lol
@charles_wipman
@charles_wipman 3 года назад
Damn, it was a great fight.
@davidrawle5730
@davidrawle5730 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I love this channel.
@amjidali7435
@amjidali7435 3 года назад
I got one AIM ram left lets fire it on to each other ruuuuuuuuun longshot 🤨🤨🤨🤨😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@clippedwings225
@clippedwings225 3 года назад
This video was so damn cool.
@MSFerrari248F1
@MSFerrari248F1 3 года назад
Thanks for the explanation on the MAR.
@HEATER_
@HEATER_ 3 года назад
Great teamwork guys!
@ommateti7017
@ommateti7017 3 года назад
I know you have spoken on the suggestion and I am sorry. However, for the sake of it could you do a multi ship guns or fox2 fight.
@The_abdelhafid
@The_abdelhafid 3 года назад
I enjoy watching you :) seriously man you are capable to take us to your own world ! respect from Morocco
@Peterax788
@Peterax788 3 года назад
Nice one Growling, had the chills while watching. Next time, can you try like the F-15 taking on the F-16 in a intercept mission? I also wanted to add that you've featured the F-35 only once in your channel, would you be able to do a video with that aircraft in a Fox3, Fox2 fight against the SU-57
@charlieB69
@charlieB69 3 года назад
What does "going cold" mean? I think "Fox 2" and "Fox 3" are missle launches and after firing you say "going cold". What doe sit mean please. Thanks and LOVE your videos and flying skills are above reproach!! I got you subscribed already for a bit. Loving all the fights and match ups.
@MrMJpilot
@MrMJpilot 3 года назад
Great team work! 👍🏼
@qc_ploum-zoum2
@qc_ploum-zoum2 3 года назад
Mig29 vs Su27 king cobra fox 2 fight? Attempt #5 :)
@ThePozilla
@ThePozilla 3 года назад
1 min into the video I already like it. Im that excited Edit : It was as cool as expected Can we have more of these, please ?
@williamjr5825
@williamjr5825 3 года назад
this is probably the best fighting i ever seen in this channel just a suggestion to do more video like this whit different aircraft instead of a bvr or a wvr how about both so it could be very intesnse bvr into a wvr with variety of aircraft thanks for this cahnnel best real closest thing to an actuall modern day air combat
@benspouse9840
@benspouse9840 3 года назад
This is top quality! I feel guilty that I am not a member but I cannot afford it right now
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад
thanks Ben, just showing up and watching the video is a help in itself brother thank you.
@IUse2haveALife
@IUse2haveALife 3 года назад
Love a good lawn dart fight
@bret9741
@bret9741 3 года назад
Anyone out there as ancient as me!! I remember putting together my first Tandy PC and thinking wow.. pong is such an amazing game. Later I enlisted in the Navy (sea college program) and received orders to CVN-69 and found myself on catapults. Because I had some computer knowledge, no one else did, the V-2 division officer made me a Yeoman (secretary). The reason.... we had just received new 386 computers with 15” black and green screen monitors. We also received a free game in the computer box called JET. It was, literally, stick figure 3D f-16’s and f-18’s. Anyway we started playing jet and next thing every computer in V-2 not being used for work had become a gaming system lol. I understood right then that one day we would see simulators like this up and running. The dream of flying, of being a fighter pilot must be instinct. I first had my hand on a stick at the age of 3. My dad had a super cub and also flew a Piper Arrow occasionally. I played every possible simulation that come out including games on Nintendo like Rogue Squadron and PC games like Falcon and Chuck Yeagers flight combat.... Then life become too busy and I got my pilots license at 18 years and 1 day... 40.5 hours. 6000+ hours later.... 2000+ hours of full motion sim time...... thousands of hours of books, videos and documentaries and I still can’t get enough time in aviation! Lost my medical about 10 years ago.... have a neurological movement disorder. But, keep hoping to get back up on my own one of these days. I suppose the next best thing is videos like this, along with all of the videos made by people around the world. Aviation, in particular combat aviation, is a gladiatorial sport. It’s something primal, something beautiful and something terrible. I have flown with military and civilian pilots from: US, Mexico, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Poland, Germany, East Germany (dates me lol) France, Spain, England, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, India, Iran (f-4 pilot for the Shaw), Brazil, Argentina, S Korea, Japan, Australia, New Zealand....... I’m sure I’m missing someone..... well you get the point.... as diverse as these nations are I found all of the pilots to be very very similar because of their love of flying, competition and the professionalism. I believe, if we could get around the issues of language.... of political and religious differences..... we could put Turkish pilots in a room with Israeli pilots.... Russian pilots in a room with US pilots and in minutes they would all be fast and life long friends. At the same time.... put them back in their fighters and they would do their absolute best to shoot one another down.... and then deeply mourn the loss internally.
@paez4779
@paez4779 3 года назад
Love all the vids man... I would love to see one with you in a twin seat Mig 23.. I think that would be fun.
@johnmarston2616
@johnmarston2616 3 года назад
You should teach classes dude. You’re a good instructor.
@zohedkhan644
@zohedkhan644 3 года назад
Would love to see more Jf17s. Lav ya.
@jaime1652
@jaime1652 3 года назад
Nice kills, but that bingo warning suggests me you're not reaching the base 😄😄
@CaptianJoseph
@CaptianJoseph 3 года назад
You hitting them nerves for some people with these titles 🤣🤣
@jakey-poo401
@jakey-poo401 3 года назад
I know it isn't a sexy topic, but have you ever made a video describing how to set up countermeasures profiles for different situations (How many chaff/flare, burst qty, interval, etc)? I haven't been able to find one yet, and I'm learning my first jet (F-16) coming from flying exclusively warbirds, so am trying to cram as much "general" knowledge as possible into my head. Great video as always, with great information! Thank you!
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo 3 года назад
Well chaff and flares arent that effectiv. Ther main purpose is the let the pilot fell safe befor he dies Xd. Okay serious, there no perfect profile. Its very mission and treat dependend and you jettison so much chaff's and flares you think is required to defend a incomming missile.
@guyb7995
@guyb7995 3 года назад
what about 3 plane all opposition guns only merge 😁. Unlikely scenario but that's gotta make for a great video
@muhammadzohaib2923
@muhammadzohaib2923 3 года назад
Can you do a Jeff vs Viper
@mrcoolepikkman6397
@mrcoolepikkman6397 3 года назад
Tbh I prefer the Turkish F-16 kinda reminds me of the frogfoot
@mohammadrezaghorbani3137
@mohammadrezaghorbani3137 3 года назад
Awesome Video🔥👌
@sekured9950
@sekured9950 3 года назад
You know it's gunna be a bloodbath when you got GS and Longshot on a flight TOGETHER.
@LongShotChannel
@LongShotChannel 3 года назад
Hahha thanks man
@sekured9950
@sekured9950 3 года назад
@@LongShotChannel Hell yeah brother! A wingman of GS is a friend indeed! Lol
@casinodelonge
@casinodelonge 3 года назад
V interesting, thank you.
@infamouzjs69420
@infamouzjs69420 3 года назад
Longshot and GS vs MasterJay vs AlphaGator. not a fair fight.
@-Scorpio_
@-Scorpio_ 3 года назад
Please more videos togheter, these are very cool
@plank3000
@plank3000 3 года назад
Do you wear a VR headset or just play on the screen?
@slippulter8053
@slippulter8053 3 года назад
Could you please do a fight in the MiG-21? I don’t think you ever did one before where you were piloting it, and its a great plane, and lots of fun. Maybe against an F-5? Attempt #2.
@bobpelletier7441
@bobpelletier7441 2 года назад
It appears that you were in afterburner throughout the engagement. How realistic is that?
@cacs1955
@cacs1955 3 года назад
Greetings from Turkey .. So cool video . GG
@cykacat4196
@cykacat4196 3 года назад
would be cool to see a 2v2 gun fight tbh
@jerrodcorey25
@jerrodcorey25 3 года назад
Viper vs Viper, wonder what one is gonna win.
@razaqadeanova3255
@razaqadeanova3255 3 года назад
depends on the pilot
@Black-kn9gt
@Black-kn9gt 3 года назад
Both countries have experienced and well trained pilots also well maintaned jets. This is probably not gonna happen in future but if it's happen they would go like head to head.And also that fight was not fair. Cuz you were on israeli side 😀😄
@crankthetank3581
@crankthetank3581 3 года назад
Israel? Yes, turkey? All the veteran f-16 pilots of the TAF have been imprisoned and in nato wargames other countries say that turkish f-16 pilots are in a constant state of decline, now that doesnt mean that they are bad but thats still not good
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 3 года назад
What do you mean by "go cold" and "go hot"? That just attacking/defending?
@burningpotato9447
@burningpotato9447 3 года назад
I feel like they should add the f105 and f4 phantom to dcs. Also they need more eastern jets in the Sim also.
@ryanbarajas4257
@ryanbarajas4257 3 года назад
Are those 45 degree RWR blind spots realistic to current f-16’s or is that just how DCS modeled it?
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo 3 года назад
DCS limitation.
@mistalion1
@mistalion1 2 года назад
will we see you flying Turkish F16s against Israele F16s next time?
@sirghostington6305
@sirghostington6305 3 года назад
Love how he used the soundtrack for Sicario
@ASJC27
@ASJC27 3 года назад
I think it's from Sicario.
@sirghostington6305
@sirghostington6305 3 года назад
@@ASJC27 you might be right, now that I think about it the music from Dunkirk and Sicario do sound pretty simmilar
@sirghostington6305
@sirghostington6305 3 года назад
@@ASJC27 yep you were right, it's "counting the cost" by sons of phytagoras
@turkhawk7867
@turkhawk7867 3 года назад
Turkish block 50+ versus
@noahgreaves2705
@noahgreaves2705 3 года назад
nice vid man
@alifakbar500
@alifakbar500 3 года назад
Better u put ur name there than "flight leader me" i thought me is the call sign
@leo.staker27
@leo.staker27 3 года назад
Muy bueno saludos desde Argentina 👍
@captainicelander3898
@captainicelander3898 3 года назад
And thats how you cook a bacon! Man you to good!
@sawyercascone
@sawyercascone 3 года назад
you guys are insane
@LongShotChannel
@LongShotChannel 3 года назад
🤪
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