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@@jonathanwilson5355 Ooo good idea! I touched on BECCS a little bit in my geoengineering video (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wgyhnFHm1uE.html) but carbon capture definitely deserves a whole video unto itself!
We have until the end of the century before climate change will even BEGIN having negative consequences. By that time, if we can keep the green lunatics at bay, half the world is going to be on the level of the developed world. Which means ten times the number of scientists and several hundred times the research output, not to mention industrial capacity and gdp. All of which means that the problems, once they arrive, will be easier for us to manage. So no, we don't have to act fast. And yes, there is hope.
@@hongquiao Intergovernmental panel on climate change, fifth assessment report gives a climate sensitivity estimate for CO2 of somewhere in between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees celsius, IIRC. Which means that amount of global warming per doubling of co2 in the atmosphere. considering we are currently at 400 ppm, we will be VERY hard pressed to do that even ONCE... Venus is not happening, people, get over it... Edit: Fifth assessment report. mistyped there...
Hello OCC, I'm a Brazillian viewer for a good amount of time now and I always have a problem that you probably will love to have: Your content is amazing. Really amazing, in fact I couldn't find anything with the same knowledge yet surprising simplicity in Portuguese. And I always want to share it with everyone I know but I can't, because most can't speak English, or at least aren't fluent enough to understand loaded topics like Climate Change. So I would love Portuguese or PT-BR subtitles. I hope this channel grows and becomes able to be displayed to more people, congratulations to the great work.
Hey Guilherme! First of all, thank you so much for watching!!! Really appreciate you sharing the video around. RU-vid recently got rid of the community subtitles function, so I'm trying to find a solution for that. If you or anyone else knows a good way for people like you to help me make subtitles in different languages please let me know! Have a great day!
One way you could work around this is that you could pin a comment containing a transcript, or copy-pasting to your own pinned comment. Thanks for the mention of this, most people haven't even noticed they have gotten rid of user-submitted CC.
@@kurisupi_html I kind of agree with you; what I think is still missing is fixing or even identifying and agreeing on what the fundamental human core problem is - that's causing the majority of human problems. I believe I know what that is, but I don't think the majority does. And since the majority is delusionally and/or corruptly hurting myself and my children and others children, I can't, like everyone else, figure out a way to get through to the majority throughout every level of the North American society that I was indoctrinated into, am stuck in, and am oppressed and/or blocked to change for the better that I know must be way less harmful.
Yes, we need more of this type of content. Problems are one thing. We know that capitalism is killing us and our ecosystems and capitalism cannot solve the problems of climate change that it has created and worsened. But we also need solutions and a path forward so that we don't wallow in doom and gloom. So if a problem is capitalism and viable solution is a resource-based economy. Beyond money, politics and war, those aren't needed or necessary in a viable economy. We need a shared global inventory of resources that is open-source to all and uses scientific resource algorithms to determine wherever people live what is the best resources to use to make or do the things that that community needs. It would design-in sustainability, design-in efficiency, durability and eventually recycling. We can help the transition in our current reality by advocating for a global UBI so that we finally put a stop to poverty, people can get their basic needs met, stop working boring, repetitive, dangerous jobs and focus on a positive transition. Automate necessary tasks and free people from their drudgery. The transition can be one of increasing access to things like housing, medical support, clothing, repair, tools, food, water and transport. Transition towards more collaboration rather than competition. More locally produced goods, especially food and renewable energy. Towards open-source instead of private IP. If more people could see the path forward that would end their slavery to the capitalist system, end their debt, end their high stress levels - I am confident that many people would jump on board and help right the ship, turn it in a better direction.
Hope and solutions are much better for our psychology than all the depressing realities and news we normally face. I'm always attracted to problem solving. It's inspiring. The one thing that OCC didn't mention that is crucial to meaningful change is - changing our socio-economic system itself. Capitalism isn't a sustainable long-term economy system. It slows and blocks all the solutions out there. Only once they are 'profitable' they will slowly come into play. So we have to get to the root of the problem and change the system. With the incentives of a Natural Law resource based economy we would have every reason to quickly implement all the climate/environmental solutions because people would be taken care of for their basic needs as a human right and every action, job or bit of work would be connected to building a better, healthier community or region. Our self-interest would become social interest and it would be very motivating and inspiring to live like that.
@@risingthreats4399 the best we can do is give up power, transportation and communication but, the planet will still rise a minimum 3° C since we'll lose the global dimming effect from burning fossil fuels. Ignorant hope and worthless action will not help anything, accepting the inevitable is all you can really do.
It's so SO depressing to see that even when governments and organizations talk about dealing with climate change they almost always talk about doing things "by 2050." We don't have till 2050.
I love that you always look at the full picture. Like mentioning sustainability in mining when talking about wind turbines. It's so important to consider everything connected to a solution, so we don't end up with a new problem. Great video, thank you!
THANK YOU so much for mentioning a plant-based diet. It's going to require culture change, but also policy change (removing meat/dairy/egg subsidies, subsidizing cheap and healthy plant foods etc.).
All I can think when I drive through my home state is that it's a shame all our soy goes to animal feed. It could make soooo much tofu or meat substitutes without having to be shipped across the country and given to tortured animals. Its just....right there.
@@jonathandenton6160 and they're getting better everyday! But it is best to avoid full reliance on them since they aren't always the most nutritious (kinda like meat)
I've had effectiveness in just telling my friend that they eat way too much fucking meat, you don't need meat for every meal, make it a special thing that you do like once every week or two, limit it to pepperoni on pizza for Friday.
Exactly! I think many vegetarians and vegans are pushing the hardcore veganism way too much. It will discourage many people of changing their habits. I mean getting a meat eater to only eat half the amount of meat they used to consume has much more impact on the environment than someone going from eating meat only once in a while to die hard vegetarian or vegan. It's hard to completely cut these things out from your life and therefore it would be much better to just advocate for less meat consumption rather than the lack of it altogether. The problem is mostly that meat has become so common nowadays, when it used to be something reserved for special occasions back when the world wasn't quite as rich
I don't really eat anything except animal products because I hate plant foods, except sauerkraut and parsley. I can't imagine cutting down on my food. I would switch to eating insects if they would become available, but I'm not eating plants.
@@artificialintelligence5087 you'd be surprised at the number of vegetarians who don't like vegetables. I personally eat a lot of tofu, pasta, imitation meats, and nuts/seeds.
My experience with a plant based diet is better health and less garbage (mainly because I compost my food scraps). My mom and I lost weight and all her friends are amazed by how much weight she has lost at 54. Unlike me my mom didn't gave up meat, she just reduce meat consumption to just once a month, and egg consumption to twice a week. Chefs, cooks, and nutritionist have a very important role on this. But, if you tell people how much they can gain with a plant rich diet and just tell them to eat less meat its a win. And my grandfather used to manage 10,000 cows and my family eats barbecue at least once a week sodon't say is culturally imposible.
On vegetarian alternatives: my husband and I tried a black bean burger recipe, not expecting much, and it is SO GOOD. We both think it’s better than regular burgers, which are greasy and leave you feeling gross afterward. I’m trying to eat a lot less meat (for a few reasons) and this meal has become a favorite.
@@dillondunning8415 actually we make it ourselves. Just took a couple cans of black beans, breadcrumbs, some onion, an egg and some seasoning and then we get eight burgers! Nice cheap meal that is real good.
Great video! The importance of a plant-based food system in tackling the climate crisis can't be overstated. This transformation has so much potential because of the speed with which it can happen, the impacts on all planetary boundaries - not only climate change - that are currently breached and the significantly weaker lobby that's behind animal agriculture & fishing compared to the fossil fuel lobby. Love that you're bringing up Earthling Ed, he made me an activist. ✊💚
This is great. This finally gives me hope that we can sort all this out. It's been full of pretty dire news regarding the climate recently so I really needed this.
it is also cheaper to eat less meat. Though, As a meat eater, I have been limiting how much a consume, mostly for my health and wallet. Though I do believe that artificial meat and alternative proteins like insects will play a large role in the future, I just don't see everyone going meatless. None the less things will change.
I mean, I appreciate your reductionism, but… don’t you think it’s at least incredibly important to work towards the goal of being plant-based? Considering the crucial reduction in environmental impact, the animal ethics, and the health benefits (both public and personal)? I’ve found that it’s an incredibly easy change, particularly if one has access to animal-free meat and milk alternatives. Of course I don’t have very many health barriers to a plant-based diet. I just think it’s important for us environmentalists to really walk the walk. If we don’t, who will?
Great video!!! Thank you. As a preson active on the matter I really needed this dose of hope, and this is also a great video to share with people in order to educate and spread awareness in a positive, research based and calm way.
Contents this good are always demoted by algorithm. Buddies out there its our duty to share his videos as much as possible. Do your part, share his videos.
thank you so much for making this video, im 13 and very concerned about climate change, and want to help massively as soon as possible, and this video gives me hope. we all have to do (a little) more research and take action, starting with even small things.
It’s not as hard as people think, and definitely not as expensive as you’ve been told. There is an active disinformation/demonisation campaign funded by the livestock industry.
I personally think Our Changing Climate could have done better by mentioning the option of REDUCING animal based products/meat along side completely changing your diet to a plant based one. While completely switching to a plant based diet would be ideal, the huge change can be pretty intimidating/discouraging, maybe unrealistic to those who heavily enjoy certain products in their diet. It's basically a "Go big or go home" kinda mindset which I think is unproductive to change in some situations. It may completely turn away people who could have possibly taken steps to making a difference had they known you don't have to go balls deep right off the bat. The journey/change has to start somewhere.
@@_justmishy He did say that we should have a plant based or plant rich diet in the video though, but yeah, he possibly could've been more clear in saying that we don't all have to go vegan
@@likira111 No, I'm afraid it does have to be all or nothing... you can't look at an injustice and say 'I think we can keep it but maybe tone-down the suffering' you abolish injustice. The reasons it HAS to be all or nothing: Lets start with the selfish reason: HEALTH: "the China study" by Dr. T. Colin Campbell- most comprehensive study on nutrition ever conducted states that the optimal amount of animal products in the human diet is 0.... ZERO. People think we are somehow built to eat meat dairy and eggs... Then why is it the biggest killer of humans? everything from heart disease to osteoporosis. Odd... Very Odd... (nutritionstudies.org/the-china-study/) Now the selfless reasons: ETHICS AND MORALITY: What we do to animals for the sake of a sandwich you won't remember in a week is horrendous. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gNV26q89zYg.html (holocaust survivor and vegan activist). Looking at things from the animals' perspective- paying for them to be murdered against their will and die a little bit less?... I am certain they will be grateful that non-vegans just simply continued to kill them slightly less and not be Vegan especially given how easy it is to not participate in their murder. You are either Speciesist or not, you are either racist or not, you are either a sexist or not, you are either a transphobe or not, you are either a homophobe or not, you are either counted among the oppressors...or not. BE. VEGAN. last but not least... ENVIORNMENT: Joseph Poore of Oxford University conduced the most comprehensive study on the relationship between animal agriculture and the environment examining 40,000 farms in 119 countries showed that the single biggest way to reduce your impact on the earth is to... you guessed it... be vegan. (science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/987) To anyone who now wants to go Vegan or wants to learn more I recommend the following documentaries: Forks over knives: www.forksoverknives.com/the-film/ Earthlings: www.filmsforaction.org/watch/earthlings/ Cowspiracy: (Netflix) or : www.cowspiracy.com The Game changers: (Netflix) or: gamechangersmovie.com there are so many others that I can recommend but Ill leave you with this: The most Important Speech You Will Ever Hear- Gary Yourovsky: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U5hGQDLprA8.html
@@Scott-wc1ct @Adam Dunphy Calm down. Seriously. Loose the militancy and the fact-spouting and the paper citing. That serves more to alienate than to convince the vast amount of people that need to do something. It's not true that the optimal human diet is 100% plant-based. Where do you get your B12 for a start? Do you honestly believe our ancestors where eating grass? Or had sophisticated spirulina extraction methods? Excess is what causes many of the diseases you wrote about. Thinking in superlatives. In absolutes. Like you. We do not live in an absolute world, we simply build it that way in our minds. Human concepts like racism and trans-/homophobia etc. are real, but not as sharply divided as we want them to be [edit from "too"]. And reducing animal consumption over time is way more effective than quitting from one day to the next and having difficulties adapting. Ever tried to quit smoking as fast as you could? It's hard. Seriously, drop the militancy. It isn't compelling.
I LOVE the term "plant-rich diets" because it allows people to eat some small amount of meat or animal products occasionally but still have a massive impact
Ok that’s not true I already am vegan and of course I know we need renewable energy but this clear no normal journal formulates it that way. That needs to change!!!
Thank you for producing such important and great quality content! Very happy you pointed out the potential of wind energy. Just started a master in wind energy (amongst others in Denmark) and it's been great so far! For who might be inspired by this video: it's called the European Wind Energy Master :)
TomYeeha Maybe, greenwashing is a topic. To get amazon clean you would have to rub it so hard it would turn red. A red amazon would be a communist amazon. ;-)
I've read styrofoam can be made from corn starch. If you floated styrofoam balls, like the little ones in beanbag chairs in something like black paint, this would paint the bottom of the balls black and make them heavier on the painted side. Float millions of acres of these balls in the Arctic and Antarctic oceans to shade the oceans while absorbing heat from them, since the black side would face down and the white side would be up. If the balls contained usable nutrients for plankton they would be consumed by the plankton and increase the plankton for consumption by larger animals.
Please do a video on Nuclear. Have heard a lot about next gen Nuclear being a solution. A deep analysis of pros and cons would be extremely relevant. Thanks!
I always learn so much from watching your videos. I'm currently working on a project in my Media Arts class where I'm making a video about climate change. 👍
It's really weird to think that there are people dedicating their lives to these things that could well save millions if not billions of lives, and I have no clue about who they are and what they're doing. Hey, but atleast I know that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Cut out beef and started eating less meat 3 years ago and finally became fully vegetarian(sometimes vegan) at some point this year. Learning how to cook good vegetables is key, also knowing a good variety of curry recipes
Just started trying to cut out meat, and it's nearly as hard as giving up smoking! Right now, I could eat my own arm. On the plus side, I've learned to cook some delicious Vietnamese and Thai veggie dishes. I will never never never ever eat insects though.
@@sleepycatgamer Burying it is a solution. Did you ever consider that buried nuclear waste is far safer than the buried conventional waste we already put in the ground? The local dump outside nearly ever city in the world is neither encased in concrete nor is it buried a mile inside a mountain yet they give off lethal gasses, pollute groundwater etc etc the other great thing about nuclear waste is the more radioactive it is the faster it disintegrates. Any waste that is still around in 500yrs can't hurt you unless you rub it on your balls as part of a daily ritual.
Would have loved to see the energy costs of constructing wind turbines factored in seeing as that's a hot topic of debate regarding their implementation
For people trying to get into a plant-based diet. Indian food is one of the best options and I'm not talking about the basic crappy food you get from cheap Indian restaurants. India had monarchs and kingdoms. The kings paid chefs great sums to invent recipes 'fit for a king'. A lot of these are what makes Indian food and you should look into that.
when also taking into account not just emissions, but also the destruction of carbon sinks caused my mass animal agriculture, then it is really THE thing.
hey I have a question: I don't know if I plan on going vegan or even vegetarian anytime soon and frankly, I highly doubt I ever will. But will it at least help if I narrow down my meat/animal product consumption to the ones that come from actual farms? where they actually feed grass to cows? I wouldn't mind paying a higher price for the sake of actually eating quality meat
It would make some difference assuming you massively cut down on meat intake as well. The truth is there's no meat based diet that has less of an environmental impact than a vegan one but if you truly do cut down on your meat intake and buy local meat this will at least have an impact on your dietary emissions. Buying meat from a local farmers market and cutting down your meat consumption (assuming you eat as much meat as the average person in a developed country) by 50-90% will decrease your dietary emissions, according to the current literature. My source for saying no meat based diet is as effective in reducing emissions is 'Reducing foods environmental impact through consumers and producers' which looked at 40,000 farms and 16,000 food processors in 119 countries. It's the largest study ever and states 'The most striking find of this study is that even the most sustainable meats were found to be less sustainable than their vegetable substitutes.' Out of interest, what makes you say you don't think you would ever go vegan or vegetarian? Seen as you will need to cut down on meat intake to have a positive effect, maybe you could try a couple of vegetarian days each week and see how you feel?
@@antoniovalencia1831 Thank you for answering! And to be honest, I only said that because I know that I still do love meat and animal products. It's not just a cultural thing but really just a personal preference. I am aware through that there's been a rise in popularity regarding vegan substitutes. And if it's as good as they say, I might actually cut out meat all together. And yes, I might try going vegan for a week too someday, just to see what it's really like!
My food consumption consists of 80% vegetables, fruits and rice and 20% meat. Let's not rid of meat let's just make people think it's better to eat more vegetable with few meats.
As a dane it gave me a mini heartattack to see us mentioned, though it feels almost disengenius to call us a success when all people do here is complain about the windmills. Hope the story is more positive for the other countries. Our bottle system on the other hand...
Reducing the amount of energy per capita is also a viable solution. The trouble is that humankind's consumption of it is continually increasing, particularly through the use of exponential wireless communication technologies, alternative crytocurrencies, and elite lifestyles.
That’s a pretty huge caveat on the second solution that we need to figure out how to store energy efficiently lol. Also how do we “ethically mine” to the scale of producing enough wind turbines to meaningfully reduce ghgs? What types of energy are we using to mine?
EVERY building should have solar collectors on it. ALL buildings in a city should have solar collectors!!! EVERY housing development should be powered by the collectors on EVERY home. Done.
Throwing my 2c in there : - change your electricity provider to a sustainable, greener one - next time you invest in home appliances, check their ecological footprint - reduce your meat consumption
As someone with Type 1 Diabetes starting a plant based diet was kinda scary beacuse of the increase in carbs since I had been eating low carb for the past 2 years because of the dissease. But I gotto say, even with diabetes its been a suprisingly easy thing to do. I did a slow start testing out new foods to see how they effected my blood sugar and after about 4 months I had switched to a almost completly plant based diet, the only thing I eat now days is yoghurt for breakfast because oatmeal messes with my blood sugar. I honestly like plant based food a lot more aswell so that has helped. I realised that what I like about meat is the spices that I use, so i've started using them on plant based recipe.
Listen to "the plant proof podcast", the host has type 1 diabetes, he's vegan and he talks about this in multiple episodes, so it might be really helpful to you.
This is exactly why I turned mostly vegetarian last year. Meat day comes once every two weeks, and I try to eat less impactful meat like chicken and fish. Since I eat it so rarely, I can afford to make sure it's of the highest quality and sourced in the most ethical and environmentally friendly way.
Changing refrigerants to the ones mentioned (Ammonia and Propane) are ideal but not practical. In order to make the vapor compression cycle work the working refrigerant must be pressurized. Both propane and ammonia are highly explosive and ammonia is also highly toxic. The pressures they must be compressed to are also higher than standard refrigerant systems. So there will be several problems: 1. Higher cost of systems that can operate at the higher pressures needed to make Propane and Ammonia work well 2. Cost in human life due to leaks in these systems which will happen (the whole premise is that lower pressure systems leak) 3. Increased embodied energy for making more robust systems able to handle these refrigerants 4. Increased embodied energy for the built environments response to these refrigerants threat to human safety (larger mechanical rooms, increased ventilation requirements etc.). I'm an idealist myself but, sometimes the practical problems with ideal solutions end up "popping your bubble."
Also project Drawdown plays discuss about the importance of family planning and girls education. For developing countries this is a very important task.
More for developed countries, atleast every Indian households is a family of three or four, but I've witnessed a lot in developed countries for example America where a couple end up reproducing more than 3 kids. So I guess people in developed countries ar executing dumber and dumber day by day, not everyone but many
@christopher snedeker by 2030 worldwide production of battery storage is expected to reach 1.3TWH/YR.... France built 380twh/yr of nuclear energy over a 15-year period back in the 70's before we had desktop computers. That represented 70% of their consumption. France has nearly the lowest cost energy in Europe for a country of is size.
@christopher snedeker i understand that people rightly point out that nuclear takes long time to project and build. But have you ever thought that actually installation of wind and solar is only the first step, and after that you have to do massive update on the grid to make it work with non predictable sources, and actually no electrical engineer has a clear view of how this can be done? And now, ask yourself if it will take more long time to scale up a tested technology as nuke or make something completely new and unpredictable as a new grid. Of course this not mean 100% nuke is the way, solar and wind has shown to be extremely cheap in some situations, but honestly I think that 100% renewables is bullshit
Me and my husband live in Ireland and adopted a plant-based diet a few years ago. We're vegetarians as opposed to vegans, as we do consume some animal products like eggs from time to time. However, we do try to eat vegan as much as possible which includes buying as many local foods as possible so we try to avoid the likes of avocados which are with their problems. Meat substitutes were very helpful when we first made the switch but now we rarely eat them. I do realise though that people will continue to eat meat so we should also look into making meat production greener.
unfortunetly, for every solution there's always a drawback. windmills kill birds, hydropower kills fish, solar panels cost so much to maintain, geothermal can increase earthquakes, so yeah. really hoping to become an engineer when I grow up, and help better engineer eco-friendly power plants.
ماذا لو قمنا بصناعة نسخ من الحيوانات أو البشر! لكن تقوم باستنشاق غاز ثنائي أوكسيد الكربون...؟! وماذا لو لقحنا أشجار وحصلنا على أخرى تستنشق ثاني أوكسيد الكربون وتطرح المزيد من الأوكسيجين...؟! ماذا لو قمنا ببناء معامل تنتج كميات هائلة من الأوكسيجين...؟! ماذا لو قمنا بإخماد جميع البراكين...؟! ماذا لو قمنا بصناعة ألواح تستمد الغازات الدفيئة كتلك الّتي تستمد الطاقة الشمسية...؟!
I've been proposing Windyday Concept. One suggestion for the wind turbines is an air ship for transportation, installation and maintenance. And we have to start building our own batteries and solar panels.
The best thing you can do for our climate is to enlighten people around you about how serious the problem is. If they truly understand, they will do the right things;)
Oooh I just finished reading story of more! It's a really beautifully written book and very informative. Jahren has a nice writing style. Now I'm thinking of reading her other book Lab Girl too.
I find that there is no way in hell I can give up things like burgers and steak. But what I have found is that I eat those on a weekend like Saturday or Sunday and there is no need on the weekdays when I'm trying to be healthy and productive. I've incorperated at least 3 plant based days a week to introduce some moderation. I highly reccomend it! The steak taste so much better on the weekend now anyways as it feels like a reward.
OCC: Wants millions or billions of people to change their diets instead of waiting on governments or corporations Also OCC: Features ad from largest global monopoly that’s causing more harm than all of those people combined
I'm on board with the first two options but I think the vegan argument is far more nuanced than "meat bad". There are also carbon negative methods of cattle ranching. The issue is that it is far harder to use it at scale (not impossible). I think americans should eat less meat and should farm it definitely but I think for most people (not all) you miss out on a large amount of vitamins, minerals and protein by complete cutting out meat from your diet. You also can't ethicaly switch to a pescatarian diet because of how fast we are already depleting our oceans. I know I chose the harder side to argue because arguing veganism has the convenience of claiming the moral high ground by default.
I don't think that idyllic cattle ranching can be scalable. While there's huge room for optimization in plant agriculture in the form of vertical farming and other techniques. with a little bit of education and responsibility, complete coverage of vitamins and minerals as well as sufficient macro-nutrients is trivial to achieve on a plant-based diet. you keep doing your thing, but a push towards plant-based nutrition is definitely the right direction.
@@holleey as far as nutrition goes I would look into bio availability as far as both how the body processes and access it's energy. Again though nutrition is a extremely personal story. Plant farming is still horrible for the environment when you're trying to feed billions of people. I think there is a happy medium that can be reached. We should also probably reduce our population over time.
@@justinmellem8964 bio-availability in plant produce is more than sufficient. unless perhaps your gut flora is messed up. the majority of current plant agriculture exists to feed mass animal agriculture. plant agriculture is drastically less resource-intensive as we omit the part where we channel massive quantities of resources through the bodies of other animals in a highly time-intensive and inefficient process in terms of input to output. there's little point in population control when the planet can easily sustain twice than what we have right now if our processes would be more efficient. for instance, through proper utilization of the third dimension, e.g. vertical farming.
@@holleey honestly I disagree with your points, except for a large production of plants going to cattle but I don't think you can just say eat the planets before the cow and you will get the same nutrients. I would like to thank you for your civil conversation but I know we're not going to change each others minds. I hope you have a good rest of your day :)
Ok so I'm supposed to feed my dog a carnivore veggies? And so if u say he gets meat but I have to eat artificial crap that means my dog eats better than me wtf
Okaaaay.... "getting rid of meat". Well, a move to a _more_ plant-based diet would be good but I have a feeling that this is a losing argument. What this argument is missing is that the carbon in the animals (just like the carbon in you and me) is largely from the atmosphere, not from underground. The difference is important: carbon in the biosphere-atmosphere-hydrosphere is fast carbon with little net change (if the cows didn't respire it, microbes would anyway); otoh, carbon from underground would remain there without our intervention. That so many people -- including some scientists -- do not get this is troubling, to say the least. There are lots of reasons to eat less meat and yes, the land clearing, CAFO, and other activities associated with the industry do increase planet-warming emissions. But if we try to demonize meat-eating, we might be turning off huge swaths of populations from any action on warming.
I think one of the biggest impacts of the meat industry is related to land use, deforestation and the usage of crops to feed livestock. I do understand your point though- I just think that those reasons alone are enough to encourage a shift to a plant based diet. (edit: to be clear, I'm aware that was also your point, I guess I was just reinforcing it:) ) I do agree about not demonising the meat industry however. I still think it is necessary for it to be reduced significantly along with subsequent switches to meat alternatives and vegetarian/vegan diets. But the way in which that will/should be done is definitely challenging. As a species we don't appear to be fantastic as communicating our opinions without defaulting to anger or mocking attitudes- I wonder if a slightly different approach which is more open to dialogue and conversation would be more effective at addressing the deep rooted position meat ha taken in western culture and identity
feeling like it is a "losing argument" vs looking at the actual science are two completely different things. One of the most significant emissions from animal ag is not CO2, but methane and Nitrogen which can have 25-300 times the effect of CO2. The University of Oxford published a 2018 meta-analysis that looked at 90% OF GLOBAL CALORIES AND PROTEIN (40,000 farms in 119 different countries and 1600 product types). They concluded that "moving from current diets to a diet that excludes animal products (table S13) (35) has transformative potential, reducing food’s land use by 3.1 (2.8 to 3.3) billion ha (a 76% reduction), including a 19% reduction in arable land; food’s GHG emissions by 6.6 (5.5 to 7.4) billion metric tons of CO2eq (a 49% reduction); acidification by 50% (45 to 54%); eutrophication by 49% (37 to 56%); and scarcity-weighted freshwater withdrawals by 19% (−5 to 32%) for a 2010 reference year" (science.sciencemag.org/content/archive/360/6392/987/1?versioned=true) It is also important to note that they also found that the most 'sustainable' forms of animal agriculture were still HIGHER impact than the worst forms of plant-based agriculture. All of this is simply an environmental arguments. From an ethics and health perspective, 1,000,000% we need to demonize the meat industry.
@@kbc2896 If we demonize meat-eating, millions of people will conclude we have lost our minds -- we are patently omnivores -- and _therefore_ climate action is not warranted. I'm all for eating less meat, with all the benefits to health, land use, etc. -- just not by forcing the idea down people's throats (excuse the pun) on the basis of the climate forcing from CH4 and NOx. On the science and re: the GHG emissions, here's a graphic explanation of why this is less of an issue if we actually take note of carbon cycle science: short-term C cycle (fast)
@@isaac7931 Thanks Isaac. My concern is that by trying to force draconian measures on people who consider meat-eating part of their core identity -- which is a _lot_ of people -- as well as enjoy it and consider it normal (if not necessary), we will switch them off climate action altogether. Bug-burger anyone? The "impossible burger" idea (delicious, btw!) is probably the best way to make the transition, as long as it's made with soy that is sustainably farmed: let's not forget that the Amazon rainforest is being cleared for crops as well as pasture. E.g., www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/amazon-burns-cattle-ranchers-blamed-complicated-relationship or Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_of_the_Amazon_rainforest#Causes_of_deforestation
p.s. I corresponded with Joseph Poore about that study and he admitted that they did not take net carbon into account. They only looked at CO2e emissions, without considering the source of the carbon. p.p.s. I wonder how many vegans got out of their SUVs and onto their bikes? Or switched to an EV? Those actions would make a lot of difference, probably far more than stopping meat eating.
I love your videos but its not that simple. Wind turbines kill large birds, which are usually endangered, and plant based diets arent always better if they come from across the world, and all the pesticides and fertilizers associated with it, which is bad for the environment. Cattle farming can be done in a way in which it sequesters carbon. Everything has 2 sides.
Most of the crops are feed to animals. From an oxford study, we can reduce our impact on the environment by 75% by adopting a vegan diet. It is the single biggest thing we can do as individuals to reduce our impact on the planet.
@@sleepycatgamer you didnt really address any of my points. Ive heard it before as well but when they speak of environmental impacts, its mostly carbon. And the secondary and tertiary effects of industrial farming are harder to calculate. Im saying the entire food system needs to be redone to have the best long term impact.
@@adamjezewski5767 This isn't an opinion, it's the scientific consensus based on decades of studies. www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/veganism-environmental-impact-planet-reduced-plant-based-diet-humans-study-a8378631.html%3famp There is no world where growing tons of crops to feed to just one animal so we can get a tiny percentage of meat becomes more sustainable than just eating those tons of crops ourselves.
In short, this is the best video you've ever done man! Please do more of those solutions like this, a dozen more perhaps, but not a hundred really. :-)
We don't need plant-based diets, we need sustainably and ethically produced meat and other animal products in addition to regenerative agriculture because plants grown in the wrong way still significantly harm the environment.
