Thank you so much for this! I’ve been fighting with the VA for my husband for 8 years filing this more than 6 times and with DAV “help” with no results. I appreciate you and how you keep it simple. Take care!
I want to thank you for all these videos. I'm in the BDD process & have a phone books worth of med records for the VA to go through. I have faith I'll hear something soon on the 80+ items I claimed. Without your knowledge I don't know if I would have been able to fully explain the pain I have every day. BLESS YOU.
TheScoop82 you’re in the right place. I submitted my claims in my BBD window. Anyways listen to this crazy old man (jk CC). I just retired on May 31, 2022 and saw my rating on the 7th. 100% out the door first go around.
Thank you so much for all the advise Craig. It’s helped me so much for any help or questions my family and I have. I’m in Greensboro NC and have a lawyer helping me with my rating. It’s been a struggle but I’ll continue to fight for it like we did while deployed. I’ve suffered enough, my family suffers enough. We deserve a full 100%. Thanks again for all you do brother.
Skin conditions are huge, especially if you are on any type of oral medications (systemic therapy) such as antibiotics. Even if you don't take them on a continuous bases, still accept them! I went from 0% to 60% for follicuiltis all because my dermatologist issued me antibiotics to treat the condition. I've received them for well over six months which meant that I fell into the "constant and/or near constant" category. This extra 60% took me over the top and I ended up with 100%. BTW the laws for skin conditions was updated back in August 2018 to make them more favorable (for veterans). Also, most oral medications (antibiotics, antifungals, immuno-suppressants, etc ) count as "systemic." Lastly, if your skin condition results in any type of scarring the VA may give you that rating instead. Basically, whichever condition (skin vs scars) yields a higher rating is the one that they'll award you with.
Oh man this is great news to hear. Thank you so much for sharing this. Ive treated Tinea versicolor through the VA a couple of times and deal with Sinusitis as well so I'm hoping this will help boost my rating in my new claim
Craig I am a long time viewer. Thank you for sharing so much valuable information. My rating is significantly higher due to all of your videos I have watch. USCG Retired 2022
Love the videos. I learned a lot of this on my own the last 6 years and got 100%, but I sent this video to my brothers. Love the content. Will help my brother get his to 100%
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When I separated in 2010 the military gave me several diagnosis with a 0% such as migraines etc to which I now get medication for in the VA. With my other diagnosis I was rated at 60% I’m hoping to get it looked again again. Im gonna watch your boot camp.
Get it looked at again and make sure you provide a DBQ or independent medical opinion from your own doctor that shows that you deserve an increase because your symptoms are worse🇺🇸
Skin condition: i have psoriasis service connected at 30%. During covid I went about trying to get a higher rating. Reason being because I was taken off a drug because of covid. When I came off the meds that psoriasis went crazy AND i was also diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis. I got back on the meds but it didn’t work, put on another med and it worked. An increase was rejected because I wasn’t on the med long enough, a two or three month break. A break because the doc said it wasn’t a good idea during covid. I am currently working on a higher rating because I have been on the meds for a few years now. The reason for the break in meds was because the meds were an autoimmune risk.
I FINALLY got my doc to make a note that it is plausible my low testosterone is the result of combat induced stress syndrome or an undiagnosed TBI. Wooo lets gooo!
The VA Doctors keep telling they can't fill put DBQ forms, that it is a conflict of interest. Had anyone else experienced this? The forms usually ask if they're a VA Dr. I had a VA Doctor, a couple years ago fill one out and help me and my claim was increased in less than 2 months. It doesn't make sense they wouldn't considering I'm trying to get more help for my disabilities, that stem from service, so why wouldn't they help me get more care. Going to a private DR. Would only cause more of the financial hardship created by these disabilities in the first place.
@@CombatCraig the claim for increase which the VA Dr. filled out the DBQ for was approved in less than 2 months as well. Which makes me wish VA Dr's. Would fill these out.
Excellent video Mr. CC. My last set of claims I claimed both left and right polyneuropathy of my legs. VA awarded left and right lower radiculopathy of femoral nerves 20 % each and left and right lower radiculopathy of sciatic nerves 20 % each. Happy White Claw:30! 🐺
Just recieved my claim from VA. Restless leg denied, neuropathy denied, chronic back pain denied, cervical problems denied, gerd denied, arthritis in back and ankle from service injuries denied. When I had my c&p all she looked at was the neck. I have 70% combined for back, radiculopahty, ankle and dysthymic disorder and they tell me none of what I claimed is related... wtf.
You have to have 2 things. 1. You have to have a diagnosis. 2. The diagnosis has to be written by a dr that it’s connected to something. I’m fighting still too. Good luck!
@@Beanz931 I'm sorry to say this but, I believe it was the way that DAV jam'd it thru when I was just asking for guidance on my filing. Lesson learned, don't send it to them unless you're absolutely sure it's finished properly. Absolutely no guidance whatsoever from them.
Combat Craig if I might add I have a skin condition called Pruigo nodularis it's secondary from my anxiety. Also, on the ratings if you take systemic therapy including and not limited to corticosteroids, autoimmune drugs, anti-itch drugs constant or near constant for the last 12 months it's 60% if you take systemic therapy intermittently it's 30%. But systemic therapy plays a lot into it
What rating were you at before filing if you don’t mind me asking? I’m in a similar situation about to file for sleep apnea and hovering around 80%. I think I’ll need a little more but just curious.
@@markguernsey184 I was at 90 , I just a 50 rating . Cpap was automatic 50. I secondary my sleep apnea to allergic rhinitis which was service connected for .Just hurry because they are thinking of making changes to sleep apnea and trying to screw veterans so get it filed.
@@shanehess8950 I heard they were making those changes. I heard that if you at least get it filed they won’t hold you to any new changes they make. Hopefully that is the case!
@@CombatCraig I need help finding that doctor that will play ball! Looking for a nexus letter to tie Meniere's to my active duty service. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for all of the amazing videos. My husband and I are going through the process. I do have a question, my husband has low Vit D ,constantly. I am wondering if anyone else deals with this and if there is a disability claim for this contributing to his PN?
Hi Abby, It doesn't look like it according to my quick googling around but I would check into it further and I would also look for secondaries that the Va does assign ratings for. www.va.gov/vetapp14/Files5/1439349.txt#:~:text=to%20VA%20benefits.-,2.,of%20entitlement%20to%20VA%20benefits.
@Abby Gearhart Vit D deficiency is quite common, especially for those of us living up north. Over the last 10 years or so the medical community has become more aware of the issues vit D deficiency can cause. Another deficiency that is not routine is Vit B12. This deficiency can also cause a bunch of medical issues, especially as we age. (DAV RN). Also Vit D and B12 deficient. Does PN mean pain? Untreated Vit D deficiency may cause pain.
I have eczema on the palms of my hands, and I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy. I've been to multiple doctors about it while in and I still got 0%. Even when it's scared my hands, and is disabling.
I recently started getting treated at the VA for a shoulder injury and I’m currently in physical therapy and am scheduled for an injection along with an MRI. The Dr that spoke to me informed me he believes it’s a rotator cuff injury and so with about a couple months in (maybe 3) I submitted a VA claim and I think I was denied although they have all the info they need to see. I have no clue what to do now or how to fight it and get a percentage
You will have to link your injury to an “In-Service” event where it was effected. Explain this event and treatment in a C&P exam. Find medical evidence on your injuries and submit this evidence to your C&P examiner. I recommend speaking with a VSO @ your Local VA to help with this process. Good luck
Craig, I am wondering if you can talk about the different types of professionals that are contracted to do C&P evaluations. My most recent C&P, for an increase to my 0% rated knee was done by a Chiropractor.
Vertigo since 12/2019, and with dizziness and nausea. Because of vertigo, dizziness, and nausea, hearing loss surgery both ears implants. Hearing test on 4 May 2022, extreme hearing loss still bad even with hearing implants. Tele C&P for PTSD was denied 23 years ago. VA shows chronic PTSD. Now, all I need to do is nothing everything has been done so far. On 11/2015, tremors started either Parkinson's Disease (PD) or nerve damage I was told in September 2016 by a Neurologist. X-rays taken today will give me the answer. VA claims were filed through DAV. I was 70/30% for 17 years, which was changed to 80/20% prostate cancer - agent orange. Now a total of 23 years 70/30 (8/1999) now 80/20 (3/2016) combined years.
Craig, I am a 74 year old Vietnam vet, server 1.5 tours in Vietnam (18 months) 1969-70. I have never been to the VA for anything, but I would like to go get checked out for some compensation. Do you have a video on how a Vietnam vet would start the process? Also what do you mean when you say Pyramids?
Good stuff combat craig. Btw, I filed for first time claim (ptsd) and a secondary on existing condition May 20th. C&P exam scheduled for both on June 3rd, claim awarded June 10th. Did I win the VA lotto?
Congratulations!!! I just went in for my c&p exam (filed for increase for ptsd, new claim tinnitus, and increase for migraines). I said a prayer before I went in and what are the odds of getting the same c&p examiner from 2019 who did my exam. I was increased then from 20% to 80%! His first words were I remember you and I must say you have not improved! I’m praying that’s a good sign for a 100%! God bless you veteran and congratulations!
They made my hearing test 7 hours away from my residence. About 420 miles each way. Is this normal? Looking for guidance before calling and canceling. That's ridiculous in my opinion
@@jenniferjohnson6354 they do. But .41 cents isn't really worth 15 hours of my day for a 45 min appointment. For a 9am appointment I'd have to leave super early or book a room the night before and all my money would go towards that. LUCKILY I spoke to VES and they made a mistake. Apparently there was an identical number and street to mine in Sacramento and that's where the mistake was at. They are going to schedule me something closer now that the mistake was caught. Even the VES rep said that was ridiculous and she had never heard of an appointment so far from someone's residence
I have Meniere's Syndrome and didn't even know it all I knew was I get vertigo so bad the one day I got out of bed and went down to my knees and had to hold onto the walls to make it to the bathroom when I get an attack about every month and a half it will sometimes last 2 to 3 days at a time. I am already service connected for Tinitus.
I am already service connect for Tinnitus at 10%, but I got out in 2004. My symptoms with my ear was always told me it was the pressure from being on a Submarine and the ringing was because of that and maybe because I was a sonarman. I started to develop more symptoms as I got more into my late 30's and into my 40's .I got diagnose with Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo in 2011 and then Semicircular canal fistula when my vertigo started to affect me when I was driving and the clogged feeling in my ear got worse. They told me they would have to crack my head open to help correct the condition. I was like ahhh no because there was only a 40% that would have worked. Now trying to get me service connected with Meniere's Syndrome that is the question. But I am going to make an appointment with my ENT with the VA, just as a check up and to talk to them about it. Since now I am getting the vertigo spells more often.
@@neogeo227 Same here, got out in 2006. I have been in and out to ENT clinics and PCP. Complaining of dizziness, fullness of ears, and vertigo. About 2 years ago my ENT doc said your symptoms are highly suspicious for Ménière’s disease and then it clicked. Until recently I realized that it is highly likely connected to military service. I have been sucking it up, but just started the process to claim a secondary for Ménière’s disease. This thing sucks knocks me out for hours sometimes a whole day. Let me know if your process worked.
My Gulf War or South West Asia service connected skin condition may go away after a higher review done by attorneys. It was granted before, now on the higher review, even with South West Asia service medal and DD214, the theater excludes Israel for Gulf presumptive illnesses, so I may lose them. Still waiting for TDIU due to lower back.
I'm 50% Mental health diagnosis, (anxiety/depression) I've been battling Insomnia for years as a result with zero relieve in sight, I've had 3-4 diagnostic tests attempted, but couldn't fall asleep to get a diagnosis.....What are my options here? I have to get serious about this because my health is suffering systemically.....
I would file for a mental health increase and make sure you have the medical evidence to support it. Here is a video I did about all the mental health rating criteria. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j26a2On8PpU.html
Read your decision letter to see why you were denied. If I was to guess, you submitted a claim with very little or zero supporting medical evidence which didn't even get the duty to assist to kick in. At least that's what happened to me in 1991.
They finally came for me for a reduction in my rating.. I’ve submitted all the paperwork from my doctor that has been treating me, along with a statement from my employer. Will I be ok?
I really want to know what your secret is to having the energy and motivation to do these videos. I have PTSD, Depression, CFS and Fibromyalgia. There are days upon days I can't even get out of bed. CC, do you get medicine from the VA that helps you function? I honestly want to know how you do it with your medical conditions. I mean all the research, writing, shooting, editing, posting and responding. I wish I knew your secret. Please share.
If Skin Conditions "dermatitis/eczema" is a secondary condition what would be the primary condition.... (I am registered with "AHOBPR" because I was exposed Burn Pit)
My hearing loss was increased to 10% even though I am completely deaf on my right ear. I'm going to appeal. But can I claim meniere's as secondary? I do get vertigo 2-3 times a week
They combined tinnitus and bilateral hearing loss for a 20% ...I always wondered why they lowball these two. I was a 12B in the Army. How many senses do we have?... 5?... losing half of just one of those five...that's a loss. Get to the VA and get it checked out. Get a diagnosis.that's a start. Good luck!
@EliNino Absolutely, you can claim anything you want but the Claims Examiner (CE) must establish a link. If meniere's disease is in the same ear for which you're receiving compensation, your Healthcare Provider should provide that link by stating "it's as least as likely as not" that they are related! 👍
I have a question? My husband had back surgery last Sept. He has health issues former stokes and Afib. Anyway he was released the same day. Within day a few days he was back at the hospital ER with leg issues unable to walk. They said it was muscle meds. 2 days later he was falling out of his wheelchair and drooling he had a stroke. He recovered from stroke but spent 4 months in rehap and now still in pain cannot lift his legs and uses a walker and very unstable. Pain level is same as before. I don't understand why they did not keep him for observation after surgery due to history.
@@CombatCraig the paid for 4 months rehab and we have 11 hrs a week help with the homemakers program. We are provided a hospital bed. I just did not know how far to take this. They are helping us with care
I have recently be diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. The person that did my eye exam today asked if I thought it was service connected and it kind of threw me off. Anyone ever have that happen?
I'm sure its happened but also irrelevant. Is it service connected and if not, what do you have to do to prove that it should be. Thats kind of the way I look at disabilities man
Have C&P exam next week for depression. Will it help my case if I am inpatient at VA mental health clinic at time of exam? Thinking of admitting myself because things are rough now. Each day getting harder to live.
So by service connection. You mean documented while in or can relate it back to while I was in that caused it. For example. I’m only 33 and have had herniated discs. Due to ruck marches and fireman carrying up mountains. I also have stress related alopecia which my dermatologist prescribed topical medication.in your opinion can I file a claim for either or both? I’m already 40% for my knee.
So is chronic pain a claim? I currently am rated for lumbar at 20 and radiculopathy left and right at 10 each but feel like it has gotten worse and should be higher
my hearing is still great, but I have tinnitus after a range incident. I have gone to an ENT professional for vertigo that kept me from working. I have no clue my vertigo could be connected to tinitus. Am I out of luck since I have no hearing loss?
Question: If I was diagnosed with chronic pain syndrome while on temp medical disability can I still file for the pain diagnosis? Or did I have to be on “active duty”. The hospital that I went to can not find the labs (CRP) that would indicate that I have the markers for chronic pain. I was seeing a doctor at Mayo in AZ. I’m not sure if the doctor put pain in my records, I have not been able to access those records. If she did note the pain but does not have the labs to indicate the pain, does that count? Thank you and thank you for sharing your experiences and information.
Thank you for posting this video. I'd like to see if you could help me with a question that I have. If I'm receiving 10%for tinnitus can that be used as a stepping stone for something else? Thanks
I'm service connected for hearing lose and tinnitus. I've been diagnosed with Meneires disease. I have between 6-10 attacks a month. How do I prove it.
You'll need a current diagnosis, your symptoms properly documented and a nexus linking it to your active duty service. Here is a video I did about the nexus. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vXL2wuHXp7M.html
Just put in and let them do their research. I don’t even have my records, VA find it for me and i just put claims in and see what happens. You should definitely complain about it to your VA doctor before you file though so it can be in VA system.
That just means that you are service connected but your symptoms do not warrant a higher rating. If they are worse I would consider filing for an increase
So if you have 70% already with anxiety and depression as the primary, and get approved for insomnia and sleep related disabilities, do you jump up to the next threshold for anxiety and depression with would be 100%? Or would they take you to a lower rating of 90%?
I had someone at the VA (VFW) refuse to file a secondary claim for depression. He said it was already under my 70% ptsd (major depression). Confused and feels like bs. How do I file a secondary depression claim now?
He should have explained pyramiding to you and he didn't so I would fire his ass and find a VSO that can explain why they are doing things on your behalf. That said, I would look for other secondaries to file so you can actually increase your overall disability rating using the combined ratings table.
I have 10% for hearing with tinnitus, and l wonder would that make me qualify for that 30%. And is there any way to get something done about an injury that Navy doc did not place in my record (way back in 1980's)? Also have Diabetes with peripheral neuropathy, but was listed as prediabetic while in service.
@@CombatCraig I have 20% for degenerative disc, 10% radiculopothy. I’ve been having this pain in my knee that the orthopedic thought was tied to my back. I.e. nerves. I’m not familiar with this claim above. How would I tie that to my back can you expound? I’ve had 2 sets of X-rays, MRI, just showed my back being jacked up. Is there a certain test I’m looking for? Things to do to tie this to my back? Thank you.
Hey Combat Craig. If I’m having trouble with Ménière's disease and the cause it is unknown how do I make a secondary claim for this? Can this be a primary claim?
So in my case i just realized I have peripheral neuropathy along with my muscoskeletal issues which I am currently appealing for is there a way to squeeze that in my appeal. Secondly, I have claimed skin conditions but VA didnt do a C&P on me do I reapized I can appeal that too but how? I lirerally have corticosteroids in my active duty results....so annoying😢
Craig wish you would put things in here for spouts I draw my husband 100 percent pension from my husband that died of Agent Orange I went to the V, A. to try for more money it has been almost a year, and still nothing I only get $ 800 a month on it my health has gone bad I,m 71 and need help I wear hearing aids but they don't work
@@BassNinja Already getting Ssi at 100% too. My main concern for the claim wasn't for more compensation or any kind of back pay but to have it service connected to be seen outside of the VA & not have to pay for treatment if I chose too.
@@Double0Kane at 100% the VA will treat you for any illnesses at no cost and if you can’t get care there you can put in for community care at no cost far as needing SC you don’t need it to get care and I wouldn’t rock the boat
hi Craig, i got headaches after i got out of military service, but i have disability for tinitus, does the headaches have to happen while i am the military? Can i file if it happens few years after i left the military?
I have a c&p exam for a.d.d. the lady helping me with my claims just put it in there. Can you establish anything secondary with this while doing that exam?
Hey Kyle, with ADD they consider that a personality disorder that you developed during childhood. I would be working on a mental health condition that the VA will rate like major depressive disorder or generalized anxiety disorder man.
Ive been trying to appeal the anxiety disorder i claimed back when i got out in 2021 but was denied and stated to be not service related if i got approve for it will they back pay me from all the way to initial claim?
ive been in the army for 13 years so far. im still in the army right now im going to appointments that i should have made a long time ago. when i was younger i never made appointments or went to sick call when i was injured because i didn’t want to look weak. very stupid i know. now that im older i realize how stupid i was. anyway im at 13 years right now if i go the full 20 then i can get my pension and a va disability check right? what if i get a new job as a truck driver after the army? will they cancel my va disability check because im now working? because obviously im not disabled if im working at a new job. because i would like to get 3 separate payments 1. my pension for serving 20 years. 2. my va disability payment. and 3. my payment for my new job as a truck driver or mechanic. is this possible?
Long as you are 50 percent or more you will get the second VA check. As for working you need to see what the VA rating says. You can be 100 percent disabled and still pull a second new job pay check. Long as you get that workable status.
I have a question for you. I was given a 90% rating about 5 years ago for Major depression, my ankles, knees, lower back, middle back, and neck. Most days, I am in so much pain, I don't want to move, but I force myself to work. Since then, I now experience quad weakness with legs shaking when I use stairs or just walk too long, so I can't exercise anymore. I also, have sleep apnea and hypertension now. Just getting too fat. I also now have migraines from pain shooting up to my left eye and up the back of my head, which is caused by the disc's I. My neck. What should I do?
Have you been check out for ALS? My husband passed away from it in 2018 and they diagnosed him at 100%. You wouldn't Believe the military ppl with ALS...
@@rhondamoore1682 I have been to multiple specialists. I went to a muscle disease specialist who stopped short of a muscle biopsy. I also went to a neurologist and a blood specialist. Everyone came up with nothing.
Good morning Combat Craig I just got to 90% , the VA invited to put a claim for UI any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Like always thank you for caring
Have you looked into going for 100% scheduler? I’m only saying since you’re almost there man. Where on the 90% pendulum are you? I was at 89% for the longest. Now after a few claims. I’m at 94%. It’s not a easy road but definitely worth it. Especially if you need to keep working man.
@@joseochoa7043 thank Jose for you advice, I just got to the 90% a few days ago. I don't know anything about the scheduler. I been doing this by myself. Yes hard road but i will continue the battle.
Just got denied sleep apnea secondary to ptsd had what I thought was all my ducks in a row with a really really good nexus letter but what confused me is that they did not allow me to attend my C&P exam instead they outsourced it and some random doctor and the VA made a decision based on that doctors opinion? Any help would be appreciated 🙏
Wow u got denied for sleep apnea even with a nexus damn. I have my meeting finally with the Sleep doctor to discuss treatment. Wow not I’m worry. How you nexus still got you a no go? Wow
My case has been appealed by the American Legion, whom does not represent me. The regional Director of the American Legion certified my appeal/complaint but kept his name off the form. I am fighting for the back pay up to 100% till at least 2007 when I was finally allowed to apply for only some injuries and I believe I have the right to receive benefits back to 2001 at 100% due to the clear and obvious conspiracy that kept me from receiving help in service including treatment and justice for the crimes committed against me including articles 93-Cruelty and Maltreatment, 97-Unlawful Detention, 107-False Official Statement's, 115-Malingering, 124-Maiming, 131- Perjury, and others. To put it shortly, my command retaliated against me for admitting to seeing one of them beat down one of their subordinates and for defending myself against a soldier whom beat his wife into a coma whom spread around that I, when asked, reported what I saw. I was a Scout 19Delta, Army. So my command refused to help me in any way including food and they starved me through the winter at Ft Carson, Co in 2000-01 and until I was discharged. 6 days was the longest I was starved which ended March 13th according to records which indicate I was 32 lbs below my average. The VA doctor says my hands were repeatedly frostbitten which explains the permanent swelling. My command starved, jailed, froze, pumped fumes in my face for fun, court martialed me and more until I was honorably discharged from service a complete nut case and losing my mind. The records show an obvious cover up and that my hypothermia was hidden poorly and that files have been removed both in service and afterwards. I'm studying case law now and could use good and patient attorneys to straighten everything out and get everything I'm owed. If you think you can work with me, let me know. Thank you.
If I claim sleep apnea as a secondary under ptsd, can I claim gerd secondary to sleep apnea? Or since sleep apnea is already a secondary condition under ptsd, does the buck stop there?
It’s similar to filing a normal claim. You use the same form, same evidentiary requirements but you connect them to something that is already service connected vs going the direct service connection route👍
Quick question: if you file for an increase in 2022, and let say you were service connected 30% for PTSD in 2018. If your increase is approved for now 70%. Do they backpay it back to 2018? Or you had to keep it alive like any other appeal where you get 1 year to fight back
Back pay will only be from the date of intent to file. If/when you are planning to move forward, call the VA and tell them you would like to notify them of an intent to file
@@aaronbabb7495 well with intent to file , you can do that online without calling. I just didn’t know if you asking for an increase required an intent to file. Just thought it always go back to when you got rated for the condition.
@@CombatCraig Thanks for the clarification CC. I just didn’t know if you asking for an increase required an intent to file. Just thought it always go back to when you got rated for the condition.
@@teeybannister As far as trying to get an increase, it is essentially saying the condition is getting worse, so they would not do back pay to the date of initial rating. For them to pay you back to the point of your original rating, they would have to admit that you were not properly rated to begin with, which they would never do
Combat Craig what are you going to tell the members who fail to submit paperwork for benefits after 1 year of discharge or retirement? The USSC has decided that no member who fails to apply for benefits after 1 year will not receive any retro pay.