3 of the Morally WORST Clones in the Grand Army of the Republic 

Crosshair is a clichéd character with a predictable story arc. Star Wars needs to move away from the lame bad guy goes AWOL and turns good later on.

​@@eddieram435 I think the problem with Crosshair is that it feels weird to think of him as "evil" none of this was really his choice. Faie feels like he has a tiny bit more agency

I think people standard for clones are too high, if you think about it, they’re never taught to be human, and their soul purpose is to exist as a killing tool, when your life is already gotten messed up it’s hard to have a good personality

He was a soldier who knew his exact purpose in life and followed just that. Not to mention he was paired with a Jedi who already had bias against his kind. Clones are basically bred to be obedient drones with little to no connection or empathy for other beings. They are killers first and foremost. Of course that depended on how influential their Jedi counterparts were in broadening their horizons. Not in this case.

​@@marlonbrando5794 i mean, if you take out the inhibitor chips

Pretty much

I didn't know any of that about Thire. Holy CRAP.

To think I was nice to that jerk! And I knew the Coruscant Guard was bad, but this just pissed me off to a freaking boiling point!!!!

@Jennifer Brewer its because Geetslys made that shit up. Notice how he never states where his source for that information comes from. Geetslys has an agenda of painting the Coruscant Gaurd in a bad light. And he often just makes shit up to further that agenda. A quick Google search goes a long way when it comes to fact-checking what Geetslys says. Most of the time, it tends to just be made up BS to fit his own narrative.

Im honestly just glad that Thorn wasn't like them.

Legends Cody: "FFS, couldn't we have received Order 66 before Kenobi got back?"

@@Jedi_Spartan_38 In the novel he laments the fact that he received the Order after giving Kenobi back his sabre.

​@@jaanikaapa6925 thats.... Literally what the person is referring to.

EU Cody: Hey you idiotic hooded bastard, could you have given the order before I gave his light saber back? Also, why the hell do we have to train these idiotic storm troopers? They suck! Worthless, all off them! 😡 Canon Cody: Good soldiers....follow orders 🥺😭

​@Jaani Kääpä yes, but that was right when he was still on Utapau vs in Bad Batch where he had months to think about it

Now I am sad that Pong died and wasn't around for Order 66... could have been a cool fight.

@@badgamemaster Probably would have ended just the same as the battle on Umbara.

@@avazquez01 you mean he gets ass fucked by some clones when he’s in prison only difference it’s in corrisaunt not umbara

​@@avazquez01 yeah, that Umbara incident is like a controlled Order 66 without the order.

Lol yeah

Can you elaborate on that for me? Not sure what you mean.. but yeah.. cool looking clone!

@@TheLeatheryman I’m assuming you’re talking about my “pro-gamer” remark. Keller declared martial law and put curfews in place of a town in order to catch Jedi, using all resources he had at his disposal to accomplish his objective while under the influence of order 66. Keller was trying to complete his mission as quickly and efficiently as possible.

@@indianajones4321 Ok thank you for the reply. I’m still a little confused as to what defines a “pro gamer” response. Is that just using everything at his disposal?

@@TheLeatheryman it’s being as effective as possible with a limited cost, at least on the surface from the source material. I don’t think he lost any troopers in his operation.

Give me rent!

​@@EternalEmperorofZakuul you'll get your rent when you fix this DAMN door

@@tylerhalloran9158 gonna cry?

@@EternalEmperorofZakuul That’s a cute outfit. Did your husband give it to you?

@@cameronis8089 oh you can't do this to me... I've started this company. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE SACRIFICED!

Starkiller with the Jedi adventure robes. Who knew the Jedi had fits like that

Tarre Viszla for sure

And can they compare to Ludo Kressh, Dark Lord of the Drip?

Count Dooku (technically)

Rahm Kota, Quinlan Vos, Bardan Jusik, and Lucien Draay.

we *DONT* talk about that Idea

I'm certain Anakin would have been so tempted to kill Faie within in a minute, those two should just never meet. I'd bet even Rex would and the rest like Kix, Jesse, Hardcase, Fives, Denal or just everyone would hate Faie.

@@kamuiwarp1784 Faie probably would've "gone missing" on some Outer Rim planet.

@@kamuiwarp1784, to them, Faie would be an even more extreme and even more insufferable Dogma.

​@@occam7382Atleast Dogma was just a rookie

Absolutely. So many people just see the movies or some of the movies and think that there's no depth to the lore, characters or background stories. If you explore both the legends or cannon EU there's so much more there with even literal background characters with no dialogue have life stories and family legacies. The animated series deals so much with politics, culture, society's treatment of veterans, the glorification of war, PTSD, economic colonialism, client states, power dynamics, history, a variety of relationship types, corporatism, corruption, social and religious dogma and so many other things. Hell, the original trilogy was about fascism and America's genocidal wars in post WWII Southeast Asia and the prequel trilogy was (unintentionally) an absolutely perfect analogy for the neverending war on terror. The storyline between Palpatine/Anakin and Darth Sidious/Vader is the very definition of an inequitable power dynamic and the relationship between Padme and Anakin is the absolute definition of a toxic relationship. All of which was done with very precise intent, and, even though the prequel trilogy wasn't conceived of as an analogy for the War on Terrorism, the fact that it is such a perfect analogy for it tells you how intentional Lucas was with his political commentary. I'm not a fan who spends time hating on the Disney movies but them attempting to succeed at telling background stories by giving a story to the little thing dangling from the ceiling of the cockpit in the Millennium Falcon shows how unaware they were of what makes people love Star Wars. People didn't watch the prequels to find out why Luke's father wound up with a lightsaber that color and we didn't walk into the Force Awakens because we were overwhelmed with curiosity about what happened to Luke's outfit after Episode VI. Sorry for the rant, lol

I greatly misread this and was as confused as I was curious.

Good luck with those shifts!

Faie and the boys: I give the orders

What book is that quote from

...Looked up these names in Wookieepedia, and I suspect this being fanfiction. Honestly.

@@michaelandreipalon359 Yep, sorry to disappoint 🫤

Yeah

A clone Commander who hates the Jedi assigned to a Jedi General who hates the clones. What could go wrong?

Lol “Fay”

Palp's dead, one way or another: via Order 65, Mace's or Anakin's lightsaber, or executed after trial in the senate after being impeached. And since Mas Ameda had complicity, he's also either deposed or executed. Dooku and Grievous have life in prison if the testify against Palpatine, which in my mind they wouldn't care to do after what you just described concerning them.

I would LOVE to see a video on this.

@@snapshotinhistory1367 palps is getting religious for sure, but I think the more interesting things would be the stuff beyond that. The Separatists are still separate, this war has been going for a while now. Dooku and the SC has a government and an army still and no incentive to lose this war. Grievous has his armies too, and has likely just shifted from "nearly omnicidal" to "fully omnicidal" Being a Sith isn't illegal and the Republic is still heavily staffed by Palpatine appointees, so a trial will be required if Mace or Anakin killed him, which they almost certainly will, and there will be a lot of people with reasons to obfuscate the parts of Palpatine's doing that aren't fully digested yet. You could potentially see a Jedi-Republic vs. Senate-Republic vs. What-The-Hell-Just-Happened?-Republic divide that could turn into a second contemporaneous civil war, plus you've got the Separatists still fighting and confused with many uncertain if Grievous is still on their side while he takes his ships and just starts indiscriminately glassing systems in a nihilistic rage against all life.

I’m rewatching the Ahsoka framing ARC and Fox literally doesn’t do anything out of line lol. Rex even issues the “Ahsoka killed 3 clones, consider her armed and dangerous” order; not Fox.

Yeah, Yoda couldn't have realized that Thire would be, well, Thire.

Don't forget about Waxer and 99, especially 99.

Well it's loyalty

@@zero312 Definitely

Pretty sure these are legends anyway. Thire in CW was likely much different than what we see here

@@Fr0stbit3_ Never thought Thire had that in him

Yeah. Faie’s 7th Legion Engineer and Ultra-Camouflaged 41st Clone Scout armor are all really cool armor sets.

Had Faie survived to see 0 BBY, he would’ve been excited to blow up Alderaan.

⁠@@oriongear2499We do not speak of Alderaan around here.

It was bound to happen. All clones are different.

Yeah. It's called loyalty. No inhibitor chips required.

CC Ponds will most likely be number 1 sad he died early on, but at least he didn’t commit order 66

Probably the ones that sacrificed themselves can’t remember all but their was a couple hevy Fox and Fives probably more

@@j3680 Fox was the Coruscant Guard commander that shot Fives. He's nowhere near good.

If on about most good I'd say Rex, Ponds and Maybe either Doom or Wolfe for top 3 most good clone leaders.

​@@inductivegrunt94 As much as I liked Fives, Commander Fox did give him a chance to stand down in all fairness, and before I hear the "He could have used stun!" argument, if I remember correctly, that setting is slower and considering they were against an ARC trooper who even when drugged was capable of defending himself, I don't think I can blame him for defending his men, y'know?

What of Manda-LORE, Matt Wilkins, or Christopher Nelson?

Out of his free will due to indoctrination

Thire in CW was different than Legends Thire

Yeah but least Rys and Jek had debatably easier fates. From what I heard Rys despite following Order 66 due to the chios as soon as it's effects wore off he was horrified by it and deserted. Jek apparently died on Kashyyyk though but least he didn't have to see the results of the war

Jek joined the ranger corps after that episode and he’s actually the clone next to gree who tried to kill Yoda after order 66, so sadly Yoda had to kill him

Rex would probably be the first or Last Clone to be on that list, considering he and Faie are two sides of the same Clone Commander coin.

They didn't have a chip

@@EternalEmperorofZakuul And why do you think that?

@@Luckerchu333 because they did it out of their own free will, because the cloners in Kamino made sure they fought, and died, for the republic, and because these clones came out before that retarded chip retcon

@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Yeah lets keep "they are born evil" lazy shit, why not and the chips are canon so....

@@Luckerchu333 because the clones being poor victims of the plan and made them enemies of the jedi totally goes with rex's line that unlike droids, clones can make their own choices. In fact even Palpatine himself stated that clones with chips are retarded and preferred soldiers who followed orders without hesitation

That would require the clones to be considered people.

@@carlycrays2831 and they were considered as Sub-Human so….

Well he was so loyal that he was willing to end himself to get rid of the Jedi.

If you look up the real life definition of a psychopath and what requirements to be considered as one, Faire would meet a lot of those points.

He was the most loyal clone trooper ever made

@@EternalEmperorofZakuul If by loyal, you mean a teamkilling f---tard straight out of Red vs. Blue, then yes, you are correct.

@@sambridgers9543 yes

Crosshair did kill Stormtroopers and lieutenant

​@@xavierterrelong9385 Crosshair is interesting because we sort of see him as ambitious and cruel as other "bad" clones, but he is also very much presented as a victim of the chip and the Imperial policies.

Appo!? Crosshair!? Being evil I think not.

@@carlycrays2831 I’m not sure ambitious is the right way of looking at it he’s just a dude born to kill droids and fallow orders it’s only recently that the ones giving him orders also don’t appreciate him because they’re racist against clones which is good enough reason to betray the empire I mean ask kallus in the not so distant future

The first three aren’t really that evil as they are military-minded and indifferent to the harshness of war. Bacara is very much a commander that wouldn’t be crying tears for a fallen brother like Red would and go on with his life.

Why?

@@OutOfIdeas9977 why not

@@shika_628 okay

Hello Howzer how are you doing today?

@@Kai-the-ninja-of-fireee Well, you know, being sad about Nemec and Fireball.

@@CaptainHowzer325 I’m an alternate universe version of toronix where the republic didn’t fall and survived the clone wars and general skywalker would end up becoming the leader of the Jedi Order.

You should see Commander Thorn’s armor

So your saying that letting a bunch of senators be kidnapped and helping a bunch of CIS droids blow up corsant’s power grid is his job?

I was rewatching the episodes with Fox and Fox is literally doing everything right lol

Not me.

What chips?

I think you forgot the fact that chips in clones heads didn’t exist when Keller and Faie were made

Don’t forget about Koho.

Since when? Just curious.

@@OutOfIdeas9977 I think he mentioned him in a past video

@@princeofpokemon2934 the only thing I recall Geetsly’s talking about Bacara is that He is Completely and Utterly brutal af.

@@OutOfIdeas9977 my point exactly

Fox actually first appeared in The Clone Wars Movie, he's the one that "saved" Padme from Ziro

Nah crosshairs good

@@OutOfIdeas9977 Yeah now he is

Nah man. Most of the stuff Geetslys says about thire in this video doesn't have any kind of actual source. He makes most of this shit up to paint the Coruscant Guard in a bad light

@@deathblooms5186 TBF, I could see Thire setting up Security Checkpoints on Coruscant, either on orders from Palpatine or because of his paranoia.

Do you really want to be reminded about what he did?

@@OutOfIdeas9977What did Fox do? I know what Fives did which got himself killed but Fox did nothing wrong

@@Fr0stbit3_ he let a bunch of senators be captured/kidnapped, and later he let Coruscant’s power grid thing get bombed by CIS droids which led to a few senators get killed and the republic buying 5 million clone troopers which nearly led to the republic being bankrupt and stuff also one of the senators that got killed was umbaran and that senator was very very loved by his people due to him dying and stuff made Umbara to align with the CIS and well led to the battle of Umbara which was a battle where a bunch of clones like Hardcase, Waxer, Oz, and Ringo to die.

@@OutOfIdeas9977 oh yeah then I guess Rex let all his clone brothers die so he’s evil I suppose Your logic baffles me

@@Fr0stbit3_ I mean for a reason……. Edit: okay let me change a word he failed to protect senators and protect Coruscant’s power grid from exploding.

Except when you need a chip to follow orders

Very true.

And don't forget about the last stand of commander thorn and the courasant guard.

@@zacglover3345 dude for real i actually really liked them lol I just started rewatching and they assist jar jar a few times as the muscle aswell, I’d want them lol

Same