@@hans.lankamp people nowadays bash on on the shelves movements. The only thing is it's almost always eta. I wouldn't mind have a nice timepiece with a jlc movement for example.
@@mathieuvaillancourt3219 yeah, I just think brands should stick to their core, either design-oriented or watch-oriented. I have no problem with design-oriented brands like cartier, but I would like them to stick to their principles
Sorry but far, far too much going on within that dial! Seriously it's got everything AND the kitchen sink on it. And none of it seems to balance with each other. As we say here ''it's all over the bloody shop''.
To me it was always the fact that they didn't do it that made these videos so unique to me. But i guess it can be very annoying for most people. So i think its an improvment
@@s0mar885 Oh dear God! There's no way one person could produce all that. At least, there's a writer, a narrator and at least two people producing the video art. Don't you think? I've produced my own YT videos, albeit at a much lower grade, and I quickly learned it takes at least an hour to produce each minute of video.
Some daring statements, to say the least. Admittedly technically advanced, the brand produces its share of esthetically dubious concoctions (Linesport anyone?). As long as that happens comparing the brand to A. Lange & Söhne is farfetched. The featured watch is excellent as is the video though.
Check my videos..I’ve owned all 3. For me, JLC isn’t quite the same league in terms of finishing. My FPJ was amazing, but the Lange edges it for me. It’s absolute perfection.
pejpm in my mind while Lange and Journe are in a different league for finishing, I think it deserves a spot beside the two for ingenuity and innovation.
Clearly an impressive movement but not really a fan of the dial particularly the numbers. But beauty comes in all shapes and sizes even if not to your particular taste
They both belong to the upper stratosphere, tho Lange represents clinical functionality and crispness with that appealing teutonic identity, while F. P. Journe is an eccentric, playful brand, which lives up to its motto, invenit et fecit. Lange for me, but it is really up to personal taste. Both phenomenal.
FP Journe is one of those watch brands that nothing negative is to say about. And what's impressive is that they don't have a decade of history to offer yet. So who knows what they'll become in the many years to come.
4:33 HOW ON EARTH is the Limunor an iconic design? If it didn't have the brand name, it looks like any cheap digital watch with radium "glow in the dark" numbers
It's iconic because now that it exists you could recognize it at first glance even if you removed the brand, but it's certainly not the most impressive design
I think the centagraph is one of the undervalued watches of today. Like the Richard Mille 003 & 002. Look at what the bleu has done in the last 4-5 years. Centagraph is a great watch.
How is F.P able to make 800 pieces of watch per year if he is doing it all by himself, and at that level of details and workmanship? I will be surprised if he can even handle 80 pieces
I like a lot of this watch, but the off-center date window is really not to my taste I think. It's definitely at its strongest when flipped onto its front so you can see that lovely movement ^_^
You will need a lot of money in years to come to obtain one of these pieces. Mr Journe is no spring chicken and when the time comes for him to hang up his boots I would not be surprised to see the prices of these pieces quadrupling.....never mind rolex, get your name down for one of his pieces.
Apparently there is more than one way to look at watches like the aforementioned. For me it is about aesthetics and maybe heritage. Throwing in words like investment and return do not add anything. Quite the contrary.
@@Sool101 I don't believe my comment mentioned investment anywhere...quite the contrary. I have a Chronometre Bleu and a Souverain and both were bought for their craftmanship and beauty. I was merely stating that the price to obtain one of these pieces in the future when Mr Journe isn't around anymore will likely be very high. He is widely regarded as one of the world's greatest watchmakers and we are living in a time when he is still around producing his craft
It’s my understanding that he hasn’t made any of these watches in several years, so what impact if any would his passing have on their value? There’s videos up of their facility in Switzerland where you can see all the watchmakers at work, but not him.
It's set off-axis like a real rope to give your finger and thumb better purchase on the very thin crown in case your fingers are a bit slippery from hand oils and the like. Gives it a bit more surface area to grip. ( you'll note it IS a very thin crown...)
@Marshmallow Fisticuffs true but almost all brands needed help in one form or another , movement sharing , movement modification to call there own, buying of parts or a movement company , truly in house manufacturers are basically non existent. ALS have the pedigree (even though it got mixed up for a while ) but the knowhow was technically unbroken because it was passed on and now Glasshute has a school to make sure these techniques and skill would not be lost (which can be said with almost all ) .
Remarkable that the narrator somehow managed to completely omit any mention of the unevenly sized numerals on the dial. Surely as polarising a feature as any other, if not even more so.
How come that the watch is losing its value on the pre-owned market? Gold movement, gold rotor, gold dial, platinum case + all the complications, but still almost 10k under retail? With only 800 pieces a year I would expect all FPJs to hold or gain. The watch is incredible!
Can you do a video on the Rolex 1630 please. I have one that my father bought me when I was born in 1976. I've had it my whole life! It seems that no one knows anything about them. Even the Rolex dealers and experts in my city thought it was an oyster quartz that had the movement replaced. Of course the center links on the bracelet tell the truth....lol Thank you. And love your videos the most!!
Not properly finished Palet fork 3:57 is the biggest disappointed for me killed the whole vibe, u never expected to see that on a watch that costs a fortune
Also, that's a really great philosophy in general. Everyone talks about the old masters and how everything now is terrible, but if you know how to look for it, whether it's music, watches, books, art, there is always absolutely amazing things being created. The only difference is that in the old stuff, people only remember the best.
What a wonderful example of skill combined with the ultimate good taste. The wonderful use of gold inside the case! No pretentiousness by an awful, display of it; confusing this masterpiece with --jewelry --. I was concerned with the use of 22kt gold as, to its softness; only to be instantly put at ease--by --the use of 18kt ,for the parts requiring more strength. A truly, breathtaking timepiece, that can be worn, with humility: utterly beautiful. Such a piece makes me feel: the soul of creativity is far from extinguished .
The more you learn about real watchmakers and their watches, the more you'll realise that Rolex are overpriced and very overrated. They're more of a luxury brand instead of a watchmaker these days
Moonphases are usually a dual sided wheel, the most common moonphase display system is based on a 59-tooth driving wheel. This system requires a manual correction roughly once every two-and-a-half years., although some manufacturers are striving for more accuracy. not exactly sure on the F P Journe, but as it's a very modern manufacturer, I'd guess better accuracy than that. A 135 tooth wheel is good for 122 years.
Okay. I do not really trust anything claiming mechanical rubustness made out of gold, just for being a precious beautiful metal. It's a masterpiece no doubt, but for me, more for the sake of art of goldsmithing than for the sake of watchmaking. This channel is awesome, and I would die not knowing this kind of stuff without it.
F.P. will always be one of my grail choices but i do agree. Have a high horology (not independent) watch that stopped on me and after a few months, good thing it was still under warranty. I belive if you go down this road the less complications the better as the first things watch makers do is the base movement which should be the most efficient and robust while added complications are basically an afterthought and added to that basic design .
Actually Journe has a beginner model. His entry point used to be the Chronometre Bleu, but is now unattainable due to its popularity. Elegante is the new beginner model.
FPJ is my favorite watch brand after learning about them in a review i read on them in the WSJ prob 10 years ago and then just deep diving into them . simply beautiful
