3 Shirts, 30 Wears, Which one is better? 

Which patagonia tee was it? As I wear 95% black I have around 10 black tee shirts which I usually buy from M&S in the UK. I also have some tees from an ethical company called "brothers we Stand"

@@Ruisusaura Ooooooooooohh that is a very good one! I always opt for a 2nd hand high quality leather if I can just because I have been burned by bad faux leather in the past but I'm always open to trying new technology to be more vegan!

@@byhisstripes2713 This was the capilene T which is the most basic one but they have really awesome hemp shirts and other synthetic stuff made from recycled pop bottles too!

Levi Hildebrand thank you!

You probably haven't tried BananaRepublic shirts. btw its on sale in case you wanna try one.

Yeah that’s super true. This same challenge but with an additional 25-30 washes would be interesting too!

Some good points to consider

Saying in good shape but then talking about holes makes me think we don't have the same definition of wearable and quality. Also, no, t-shirts aren't underwear for most people, as many, many, many people in the western world don't have physical jobs, and there are also some physical jobs (delivery for ex) you'll find in cities, where most people live, have uniforms. A 5$ t-shirt is unethical, but in terms of quality, it will not be there; it will pill quickly, there will be loose threads and the seams will "turn" (you notice it when you fold clothing for example).

I think it's a systems thing. I feel like I know people that eat well and work out a lot and they just don't stink.

@@myusen Some of us stink more than others. Faster too.

Oh man you’re gonna hate my other video then

@@LeahandLevi Lul

Haha

@@ninjanerdstudent6937 LUL? That's such a very Dutch word ...... How did that sneak into this conversation ......

@@LeahandLevi This comment response got me dying. lol. subscribed. actually gonna search for your other video now. lol

But don't your clothes have a "rough" and "hardened" texture when they dry?

@Cam Nguyen. I do put them in the dryer on low for 5-10 mins if they’re prone to stiffness. This also goes a long way toward relaxing any wrinkles.

Llama Sugar lawd you lied and back track so easily 😂

Just regular vintage Champion sweaters and Levi’s jeans are so much higher quality than their new stuff. This applies to almost every brand.

@@xXcangjieXx For sure. I have a fleece Old Navy zip-up hoodie that I've owned for 14 years, and was in my sister's possession for at least 5 years before I inherited it. It is definitely showing age (it's lost some form and the big logo has faded a bunch, but all the stitching is still somehow intact), doesn't block the wind anymore, and doesn't have the flappy part of the zipper, but good god is it comfortable and great for warmth as a layer under a jacket or coat. The zipper is actually the best part in my opinion, since it's still buttery smooth and can easily be zipped despite not having the flappy bit (what's that part even called? I don't know!). Meanwhile, I rarely wear my 5 year old fleece Old Navy zip-up jacket because it just doesn't feel as comfortable. It looks better because it has much less wear, but I go for comfort more than style.

Haha I'm glad you and Leah think the same way. 😜Thanks for being a part of the team!

I'm certain Leah would want to see that idea developed aha

Don’t tell Leah...

The blindfold part fits right in with that.

@@LeahandLevi lol

As long as you're finding the right source, wool yarn is good! Sheep need to be sheared to stay healthy, so as long as they're well cared for, wool isn't a cruel material.

You can just use cotton, linen and bamboo but they won’t be as warm as possible... just try to buy fibers that you know where they come from and we can also help animals, plants and the planet.

Emily McD Why focus only on vegan sources? You don’t kill sheep to get wool, you give them a haircut. They NEED to be sheared because humans bred them to have no terminal hair length. If you don’t want to work through your stash of acrylic yarn, just list it for free on Craigslist or someplace similar.

you're inspiring me to try. In the old days, sheep were just kept for wool, it's a post-industrial-revolution thing that they're now bred for meat. A few small flock owners still only keep them for wool or as pets. It's like rescue ducks and hens as pets: their eggs are vegan approved, at least by vegans i know (I live in the deep countryside, it had many disadvantages, before covid19 closed all the city advantages like education, theatre, healthcare - now we're the lucky ones - but the payoff was access to fresh food, 'vegan eggs' etc)

Thanks for making this comment! Also look at your local thrift stores because you can find good brands there for cheap!

I totally can feel a quality difference in Patagonia t-shirts compared to my favorite plain t-shirt which is a Hanes men's undershirt...but my Hanes shirt is still like new ten years later (mostly worn as pajamas and when riding horses in the summer) so I'm not buying a Patagonia shirt just yet.

To avoid pilling, wash it inside out. Never mix colors or fabrics. Never use temperature unless heavily stained. Always try to avoid Short cycles. Use little soap, acccording to the stain level. Try to avoid american toploaders w. machines, they tend to be harsh on your clothes and be water and electricity guzzless. Being careful means longer lasting goods.

i only wear black blue and grey target goodfellow tshirts, about 6-8? and i dont get any piling when they are washed together, just dont wash them with towels and youre good.

Wash your tshirts inside out (and sweaters, too). Hang them to dry. Dryers are really hard on clothes.

Yeah these are all considerations that I think everyone should make. Maybe it’s not something we can all do right now but it’s where things need to go. 🙏🏼

Yes

Same for me... I sweat a bit more and everything that directly touches my skin needs to be washed after 1 wear, because it smells :-(. Pullovers that I wear over shirts surivive for 3-5 days without a wash and my pants need to be washed after 3-5 days of wear :-(.

I wear sweaters and jeans lots of times intermittently without washing, but t-shirts? No way. Armpits are one of the few smelly parts of the body, therefore anything that touches them can only get one use before going into the laundry, just like underwear and socks. Doesn't matter that I've had a shower and used deodorant, it will smell if I put it back on on day 2. Everything else can be worn lots of times without issues imo. If I wear a looser blouse with a t-shirt underneath, I'll switch out the t-shirt and wear the blouse again for example.

Ikr i live in australia & in summer i have to change into my morning work clothes its cooler still boiling hot but yeah at first light around 4am i get changed work til about sunrise 530am ish when the uv goes from low to extreme basically then i change into work clothes for inside do that until about 11am on the deck in the garage whatever is physical inside out of the sun then i jump in and out literally of the shower basically soap the smelly parts then jump out its essentially a rinse anyway have a cold drink or fruit then relax and try not to die of heatstroke until about 9pm when its still hot af but starts slightly cooling by like .5 degree an hour ill have a serious shower like wash hair etc and change into the least amount of clothing possible sleep with the fan on high and no blankets and chug heaps of water so i dont die of dehydration overnight. Now i try to limit physical stuff in summer especially outdoors but at the very least i need to maintain my garden by turning on taps taking out compost picking ripe stuff. So at the very leaat i still change into clothing excluding pjs twice a day and shower twice. Like i dont think people understand what its like to step out of the shower and be inmediately covered in sweat within a minute like just staying cool and alive in summer is a full time job.

Abby Or they smell funky.

Merino wool is awesome if u care about the environment but don't want to be smelly! I work for a Merino clothing company and they make different weight t-shirts for all kinds of weather and since merino wool is naturally antimicrobial the odor sweat has doesn't stick in the shirt! It sounds crazy but I can wear the shirt for a week straight as long as I don't spill something on it haha.

They have pretty unreal customer service. On my jacket I bought it full price and then it went on sale a few weeks later, I asked if I could get the sale price and they refunded me the difference.

Levi Hildebrand I’m taking notes

50$ isnt 50% of 200$ though

@@julianolivia3575 lol true

@@julianolivia3575 I'm amazed no on else has mentioned this.

You should have made a video about those jeans... haha

Every 3 weeks is ok! They are still clean. I also wash my pants and skirts every 3 weeks usually. But I don't wear the same ones every day.

Isn't a more obvious reason for the "blown out crotches" the friction in that area?...

@@johnxantoro5511 that was might thought too. I'm sure bacteria doesn't help but I assume friction to be the key reason.

@@johnxantoro5511 I think you might be onto something...

That’s it! Keep up that thrift game!

Thrift stores are unheard in Europe , but I like to buy used quality good using othe vias for their proven durability, the price (you pay a fraction of the original mrsp) and also for its “green” side. An Independent hoodie (made in usa, 10$) , a twice worn Barbour (made in england) for $30 etc etc....Only no-no would be underwear and shoes unless are NOS.

@@honestguy7764 i dont feel you on that unheard in europe point.(mostly also because u cant just say a thing for a whole CONTINENT)Maybe its because I live in berlin, germany, but thrift shops are pretty common here. Esspecially for younger ppl and those who care about the whole philosophy thats behind it.

Moritz ml Used clothing shops exists, but elsewhere in Europe besides Berlin, and maybe lLondon are rare as fuck.

I love thrifting. Finding that gem that fits perfect and costs like $7 is an awesome feeling. Ive bought used clothes from ebay too but sometimes the fit isn’t right and its hit or miss.

This!

My dad literally wears his clothes out

Yes! Someone that actually WEARS their clothes. Not just sits and walks in them.

i do physical work but i refuse to use slaves, and fairtrade garments wear better. Quality is quality. Even in cheap shops you'll find a difference

I work in the construction trades I wear George Walmart t shirts they last me over a year per shirt. One one needs to buy a $50 T-shirt!

Haha I'll make them less nice for you then... 😜

My 17 year old niece just spent the weekend with me. I'm 45 so I asked her to give me the low down of everything that's "cool" and "'trendy" right now. She said "thrifting" is considered very cool right now and she wanted to hit all the thrift stores in my town. Don't you just love when being practical is trendy?

Yeah, I too have those super cheap shirts (3 for 10€ I think), and I've been wearing them for about 5 years and they are just now starting to noticeably fall apart (the neck has lost shape and they start to get holes)... 30 wears is nothing unless your are the very stereotypical fast fashion consumer who doesn't plan on wearing stuff longer than a month.

​@Trekki200 For most fast fashion consumers 30 wears is alot.

Exactly he should make a price to wear ratio

It's not just about the number of wears you have, but also the cost on our environment. Having to replace the George shirt more frequently means you're consuming more resources (cotton, water, human resource, fuel for transportation) and creating x times more waste compared to the other shirts.

Nhi Tran and it’s probably more comfortable

Ive worn my Walmart t shirts for way more than 20 wears

And here I am, wearing my Walmart t-shirt for the ~500th time. (I actually did the math.)

This is a great perspective, thanks for sharing it. I think we need to recognize that quality is something we have to research. Hype is way too easy to fall victim to.

can you drop some brand names?

If you don't mind leave those brands below. I don't have access to stuff like that here and I'm sure people would love to know!

@@LeahandLevi Armedangels

@@Hanna-qk5lz in Germany there is a brand called "Funktionsschnitt" you can shop online. More expensive, but great materials and also "Fair Wear". Thanks to summer and winter sales I have quite a few items which I loooooooove, especially their "Tencel"-Shirts. Definitely check them out

Rapanui

Right? I had friends tell me they had no idea I was even doing a challenge....

Half of my shirts are grey, albeit different styles and some have quotes and stuff. There was a time I wore grey shirts for like 7 weeks straight and only wore colour once every week at most. my mom is the only one who noticed because she's the one who takes care of segregating our clothes for laundry. most people honestly don't realize that you are repeating clothes and outfits.

Makes the point that we don’t need as many clothes as we think we do!

I once wore the same suit 4 weeks in a row...nobody at work realised....normally I wear another outfit every day.

A guy I went to college with had the nickname "red shirt" because after a week or two everyone realised he wore mostly red shirts.

That’s so cool! Thanks for sharing!

+1 for Rapanui. I have 2 Patagonia vests and a jumper which have all bobbled with my work backpack. I have a Rapanui vest and it's bobble free for less than half the price of a Patagonia vest. That said the Rapanui vest is 100% cotton Vs the Patagonia stuff being a cotton & polyester mix. I know some folks with t-shirts and button up shirts from Rapanui who love them too. My only gripes with Rapanui are limited options for their plain vests and their jumper sizing is awful, so baggy on the chest it gave me bat wings.

you can buy them on sale for 20 bucks all the time

Checkered Jules nice reference 😂

I got three "$50 shirts" from brands like Arcteryx and Odlo for around 20 bucks each either lightly used or on clearance/deep discount from 3rd parties. I recommend keeping tabs on sites and selling apps like Ebay, Trekkin, Poshmark, and Mercari ;)

@@errhka which shirt is it?

@@rymndv_ just go look at the sales tab on their website and you'll find tons of new shirts half off.

That’s super cool! There’s some great finds out there!

Yeah I buy 10 dollar shirts for my maintenance job. I only have 4 and have had them over a year. One has some holes in it at the bottom but is fine because it is long so the holes are just over the pants.

Karen Li You could try to explain why clothes are supposed to be expensive by showing them what it costs to produce a T-shirt under fair and eco friendly conditions and how little seamstresses get from H&M etc. Maybe also with visual representation...

I love Pact. I recommend them a lot.

Yeah fair enough, we all have different circumstances to deal with 🙋🏻‍♂️👍🏼

Was hoping someone would mention this

you didn't understand anything

I was so hyped to see that!

Sometimes cheaper seems better for someones budget- but the cost of replacing that item over & over actually becomes expensive. If you spend more up front but the item lasts forever then it’s worth it.

Captain obvious

@@happyglowup7736 yes for somthing other than clothes but let's say you buy you buy a 50 dollar tee shirt and a 2 dollar tee shirt you would have to go through 25 cheap tee shirts to get to the expensive one and if the cheap tee shirt last even half the time that the expensive one does you are saving 46 dollars and the environment in turn

Thanks for being a part of the team!

I think asket makes a better t shirt than Patagonia for a lower price

it was 90 days :O

Lol it wasn’t too bad but Leah was sort of like “y u no wear the shirts I buy u?”

I have heard of them, maybe I'll take a look at them next time!

Elis G yes that’s sadly correct. I thought at least the quality is good so you could wear them longer and they don’t do trends so much.

Uniqlo uses uyghur slave labor in its cotton supply chain, not recommended.

Connie G I don’t know that :o

@@alburp3009 Yeah I used to love their stuff! I know a lot of companies are far from perfect, but I had to draw the line there for them...

Wow that’s incredible! I wish that was a thing here!

@@LeahandLevi Considering that the average annual salary is about 12000 in dollars It's not that cheap, but still a good price tho. PS.: The white one is the 2,5$, the colored are more "expensive" 😅

This is BS, lol. "Cotton growing in Hungary" was a failed communist project. Hungary is too cold to grow cotton.

I am honestly curious which brand you refer to

FenixDown147 bro I always catch myself wearing my new white tees and then instantly regretting it 🤣

also consider thrifting a t shirt , that is infinitely better for the environment than buying new

When it begins to stink or has obvious stains on it, then I wash.

You guys are honestly so gross. So many bacteria growing in your clothes for sure

Ew.

🤢🤢

Wait til these guys hear about those of us who don't use soap, shampoo, or conditioner when we shower. 6 years and counting.

Ask yourself why they're so cheap, it's because someone is being exploited.

Benedetta Bernardi As they should

I have a uniqlo t-shirt that pills worse than a target t-shirt. Uniqlo fit is better though.

Don't buy the ecoegg waste of money. It works as if you were just using water. Any legitimate test show that it's not effective at all. I bought awhile back, and it seemed to work, but they got nasty, because it's not cleaning the shirt at all.

I’ve never heard of them but I’ll look them up!

Welcome to the party!

Levi Hildebrand if it’s a party, I’ll be in the corner on my phone and chip in to the conversation every now and then 😂

Hahaha well I would never call myself a scientist but I’m glad you liked it!

Hey your welcome I’m trying to do some experiments myself like how long it takes a bamboo toothbrush to compost