+Steven A. :) If he had been drumming in this vid and stopped after example 2 or something and looked dead at the camera and said "you know what the definition of insanity is? Playing the same drum beat over and over and expecting to get a different rhythm!" oh man...... that would have been quite surreal.
This teacher is tempting me into the free 30-day trial and even more: paying for total access. Aaron is not only sick-skilled but pretty good at teaching.
Drumeo has the best teachers. Teachers that will actually put in real work, like breaking down hard songs note for note. Not teachers that just continuously recycle the same lessons with the accent in a different spot year after year. If you need advanced lessons to take u to the next level, It's def the best resource imo.
Aaron thank you so much for these grooves. Already starting to practice them and feeling my world open up. I'm so sorry to see so many comments from so many negative people who don't appreciate what you guys are doing. From a fairly beginner drummer here: thanks a lot for the help!
this is awesome! super clear and easy to understand. i'm not even a drummer (cello and piano) and I was able to follow along with everything. good job.
Great lesson, great illustration. How such a complex rhymic pattern can be explained and demonstrated so easily gives me the confidence that I'll learn it eventually too. Great teacher, amazing lesson and concept
Technically these are rather applications of odd groupings played in 4/4. The "official definition" of polyrhythm would be: "The simultaneous use of two or more conflicting rhythms, that are not readily perceived as deriving from one another, or as simple manifestations of the same meter". This thread already knows that. However, the accents in this example, i.e. any beginning note of an odd grouping related to the quarter pulse could be perceived as polyrhythmic if you strip away everything else.
I’m right there with you mate haha. I can hardly the snare from the kick drum and here I am watching how to do polyrhythm videos haha. You like what you like.😂
That spring retention on the bass peddle when doing 100bpm really threw me off, couldn't unhear it... fantastic tutorial but that ghosted "baboom" really ticked me off :D
This is polymeter. For polyrhythm you need (at least) two limbs playing DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS (e.g. one with 8th notes, the other with 8th note triplets) NOTE: arguably, in the case of 8th notes and 8th note triplets, you can actually point to a common subdivison, namely 16th triplets. But as long as you don't play and therefore don't make the listener aware of this common subdivision, it's polyrhythm. In this video you are aware of this common subdivision (16th notes), therefore a polymeter.
***** Well a poly rhythm is defined as being two or more separate constant pulses, such as triplets over eighth notes. But this is taking a groove in a meter like 5/8 and displacing it in 4/4, which is a poly meter.
So a polymeter is stuffing everything together in one groove and a polyrhythm is multiple rhythms played constantly, which create "one rhythm"? Is that right?
+Jonathan Graber That's not actually quite right; a polymeter is two independent rhythms being played simultaneously at the same tempo, that eventually, over time, match up again on the '1'. That's what this video shows; e.g. 4/4 and 5/4 syncing up again after 5 bars of the 4/4, which is the same as 4 bars of the 5/4. A polyrhythm is two independent rhythms being played simultaneously at *different tempos*, so that they match up again on the '1' after just one bar (or phrase/instance) of each. E.g. Playing 3 notes in the same length of time it takes to play 2 notes creates a 3:2 polyrhythm. This is probably the most basic polyrhythm; e.g. triplet quavers over 2 regular quavers, sounds like "dun du-di-dun". It gets more complex with 4:3, 5:4, 5:3, 7:3, etc. but they're all actually pretty easy to do once you work out the 'pattern' of the hits. +Drew Neal You are right in a way, but you're using the wrong words to explain =]
I'm glad someone else noticed, I wondered why I wasn't understanding whats going on. I could be wrong but I think this dude isn't quite sure what he's talking about. You're absolutely right, because he isn't playing for example an odd division eg triplets against an even division such as 8ths/quavers. Instead he has a repeated drum part where effectively the time signature has changed and so the bar lines have to also be moved so that the music notation is corrected.
+Michael Manning I don't fully understand polyrhythyms I just watch these things to help my understand rhythm (I play bass) but this seemed wrong because I would have thought a poly rhythm in its simplest form would be one note in one time signature constantly going and another in a different one constantly going occasionally lining, but these sounded at the same pace ish lining up consistently, but either way it was useful to me to try and find when I should try and jam to it and come in on beat
the one with the groups of 5 was polyrhythmic if you listen to the bass drum against the ride bell. since it is quarter notes against groups of 5, it makes a 4:5 polyrhythm. however this is coincidental and you are right about them not being polyrhythms. if you're interested, Kascade by Animals as Leaders features a sick 4:5 polyrhythmic groove at the start, with a little modification
And also that they are spaced equally, polymetric can be achieved with a single meter and just dividing beats into smaller subdivisions. For it to be polyrrhythm the beats has to be dragged out or compressed, in the case of a 5|4 polyrhythm, 5 beats are compressed to fit 4 beats in the given tempo. Temporary cases of this is usually achieved by having different form of tuplets, quintuplets and the like
Sorry for some negativity, but these are neither sick or polyrhythmic. This is just the ride grouped in 3, 5, and 7, and they resolve when they resolve.
CromCruachTheElderK polymeters are when limbs are playing in different time signatures, polyrhythms are when they're pulsing with a consistent note in different time signatures.
Aaron Edgar you got chops!! great feel I'm a guitarist and I really appreciate your pocket nice n phat Keep doing what you're doing all you drummers need to lock n and soak it up and practice proper technique.....
Love the video, helped me master my first polyrythms! However for third groove, during the demonstration at 70bpm I noticed Aaron doesn't hit the second ride at the end of the third bar. Is this on purpose? Is it a mistake? It's driving me a lil nuts
Even though this is fairly beginner stuff and easy to me, I just watch because how well you teach. You are probably the best teacher in drumeo. Very different stuff from normal.
Oh great lesson, these are fun to practice - I'd just like to point out there is a little mistake at 6:12 (Bar 3), there is a ride hit that's notated but not played on the 'a' of beat 4. Not trying to be a bitch, just it was throwing me off when playing along and I thought I'd best point it out.
Why did Drumeo let a video go out with the wrong title? Surely it should have been: 3 Okay Polymetric Ideas - with a 4, and a few extra kinda out of time bass drum notes, to the Floor Kick and Snare on beats 2 & 4 Groove - that Some Drummers Might Want to Know I will admit the one they used is more catchy.
Really cool lesson. Thanks a lot for it however the sheet music looks so jumbled it's hard to read. I'll have to rewrite it by hand. Make it the same lay out as on the video. Thanks for the knowledge, Aaron!!!
