3 Things You MUST Know Before Buying an LED Grow Light 🌱💡 

ill buy when the market is actually clear enough for leyman to understand, even professors of botany need confirmaation on this new tech

@@johnmcafee9663 Surely that point is already behind us, the point where good led's outperform any other source (besides the sun) was passed years ago. Many good sources.. the channel from Migro (here on youtube) being one of the best.

@@mindwis3 Maybe ?, people i speak to have ended up with bad product, have no idea what they used, maybe you can help.... i use a 400 W MH and 400 W HPS, im looking for LED equivelent with the purpose of lowering bills, i dont want to compromise on final quality or even quantity of what i currently use, im assuming LED VS HPS doesnt do this ? and can i find an LED that will pull less than 400 W from the wall but still give me 400 w equivelant or better while not compromising on quality ? this stuff head Fu%$s me lol and id imagine given the targeted market for such products i wouldnt be alone

Hi @@johnmcafee9663, finding a 300 watt LED that beats 400 watt HPS/MH shouldn't be too hard. Perhaps rather than directly compare, you can detail the size you want to cover and how intense you'd like the light to be. i would consider going for around 400 watt led with a dial to set the power, that way you can get the same intensity you have now, but you have some headspace too if you turn up the power. The link below is a direct comparison of HPS/MH vs LED by Sean, who has been selling and advising on that stuff for a decade.. he knows his stuff really well. please have a look at the clip below and things will get clearer i promise :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-51waoRTonc8.html

Haha professor ganjit

"Whats your name? "Purple sticky punch" you're gonna make someone really happy"

@@Shawayze bjkmjm

@@Shawayze bjkmjm

It was the Dog! Always blame the dog.

I realize that people looking for help growing weed indoors find themselves on gardener channels, and give a sinister laugh. But yes, there are those of us who are honestly passionate about growing veggies.

@@carolynsteele5116 did you forget to take your meds or were you born without a sense of humor? Relax... chill.... It was actually pretty humorous. Lightened up a bad day for me.

@@carolynsteele5116 vegetables like peyote

Carolyn Steele gardening is gardening, what someone chooses to grow is irrelevant to the information provided in this video. Please explain what compels you to respond to the original comment which was obviously made in jest. I wonder how anything concerning the topic of gardening indoors is cause for your “sinister” laughter, no matter what someone else is growing. Are you honestly stating that growing Cannabis is sinister? If so, please explain how you have come to this conclusion. I however find it ironic that you mention your laughter based on a comment which is a joke you are not getting in the first place because you lack a sense of humor. I guess you hate jokes and the “sinister” devil’s lettuce 🤔

weed only growers are in minority anyways idk why are they so hyped up

Thanks Craig!

I keep hearing about this LEF 600w Vivir spectral light is it good or not does anybody know

Very much appreciate hearing that!

Appreciate that!

Very kind of you to say

Glad to hear this!

Looooool me too “I missed the last 4 years of this class sorry “

Watch a few times. You'll get it. You're no dummy!

Lol I've been watching videos for the past hr or so trying to learn and that sums it up....

@@plantgurugangsta7299 #Inflential

🤔so is led light any good ?

Appreciate this my friend.

dont buy an LED light without looking at the spectral chart and dont buy this light. it is terrible

@@epicgardening You really are not helping people find a good light. blue/red lights are NOT the way to go.

@@modernfiddler5475 What do you recommend ? :)

@@blackbird69xxx That depends on several things... What is your budget, what do you want to grow, how big of an area, etc... Spectrum King has several decent options to choose from, Spyder Fluence lights are pretty much top of the line but they are pretty expensive. RapidLED.com has a lot of good options for DIY builds for reasonable prices. The most important thing to look for is a light that has a lot of white diodes that is supplemented with red (620 & 660 nm) diodes, this will give you a complete spectrum. Fruiting and flowering plants will benefit greatly from increased levels of red light. Things like lettuce, herbs, microgreens don't require boosted levels of red light. Familiarize yourself with spectral charts. I would disregard most of what Epic Gardening is telling you, he has a very limited understanding of horticulture LED lighting. chilledgrowlights.com/ - This site is a great resource to better understand the nuances of growing plants with LEDs. Check out their "Learn the basics" links at the bottom of their website. They also sell good horticulture lights as well as components for DIY builds. I hope this helps point you in a better direction. Epic Gardening is basically a glorified commercial showing people the most expensive and wasteful methods for cultivating plants. The light featured here is about 10 years behind the curve in LED horticulture technology/understanding. Good luck to you!

Appreciate it Gerard!

I put up a few led videos. Check it out

You were using only a T5 from start to finish until recently?? what was ur yeild/ set up like?? what is it nw that you added LED cross spectrum?

I wish someone had answered this. I can only afford one light fixture and my seedlings are getting really leggy without one. We’re really at sea with this stuff.

Yes, please, does anyone know??? I bought two-headed light for my seedlings...

Glad this video helped

I am going to be using the light for orchids as well. I am using a cheap red/blue one on an orchid as we speak and I have noticed that it really darkens the color. I would be more interested in the white lights even if they are not as efficient. I would be interested to know if you have found something you like.

Means a lot!

You bet I will!

Great idea.

Made mine from pallet wood, a tower shelf. Top for starting seedlings, bottom for main growth. Can make from PVC tubing and joints. Use radiator reflector or other reflective sheets. Kitchen foil is delicate but can mount on cardboard. Grow tents are cheap. But all depends on circumstances like space in a room. Personally I do it cheap as possible sacrificing my energy. Fifty bucks for a grow tent I think I have seen a few years ago... can't remember for sure.

Glad to hear this!

Most manufacturers don't have charts for PPFD, the best option is to contact them directly and ask about it. Still even after they show you the charts, would be a good idea to get a PAR meter which is expensive at, or get a lux meter and do the calculation to get approximate PAR from it, so whatever you get on Lux meter x 100 that and x 0,15 whatever you got, and that's as close as you can get to PAR, keep in mind that this can be a bit off on LED light and is better used on incandescents, fluorescent lights, high-intensity discharge lamps (HID) lights. RU-vid is amazing.

I'll do a video on indirect bright light soon!

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Happy it helped

I've got one planned for the future actually! Should be out next week.

@@epicgardening Thank you so much for your efforts!

I have one on my page. Not to take away from Epic Gardening because i love his videos watch them all.

You're welcome!

Brothers 4 Life The agromax is Well suited for covering up to a 2′ x 2′ vegetative space or a 1.5′ x 1.5′ flowering space. - Light Specs: 10,920 lumens, 4000K Full-Spectrum white - Power Specs: 65w, 0.54A @ 120v Your growing space will determine your light choice. That and your budget. I have grown with a combination of the budget “burpele “ lights in veg and then augmented that with some sun when in the flowering stage. I just bought a SpiderFarmer 2000 to see if I can pull off a completely indoor grow this time. Best of luck to you!

Glad to hear this

Anything new has a learning curve. I'm going to listen to this a few times so I can understand and purchase an item that would actually work for what I plan to do.

Right that's exactly what I'm saying, they're doing it to be misleading to compare to HPS draw

​@@epicgardeningWhat I got from your message is that the LEDs are LESS EFFICIENT. In reality HPS actually drawing 1000W has similar output to leds drawing 180W ACTUAL watts. So obviously same light output with 180Watts is more efficient. (Confusion is that they label these LEDs as 1000W - that 1000W is not the power draw - it is the equivalency of light output of similar HPS light. Those LEDs actually draw just 180W)

Appreciate the kind words Steven. Happy you have some more info going fwd now!

Migrow does all the testing on lights.

Said perfectly

Yea, this guy went to school or something, for sure.

That's not ENGLISH, it may be American

These would be a bit better suited to a 12-18" away in a 3x3' tent

@@epicgardening Thanks. Such great info. Would love a video, if you're up for it, giving more brand comparisons and with any info you have about creating a tent about 6x3 and the number of light units needed and options for good light for 24" tall plants.

Hi Sunny, It depends a little bit on what you are going to grow and how you are going to use your grow area. If you are going to grow high light plants covering your whole grow space, such as tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers or even cannabis, I would recommend two Z5's. Each covering 2'x2' with very high intensity. Possibly, one Z5 could be hung in the middle of your tent and right below it you place a few high light crops. Just outside of the sweet spot and high intensity, you can grow lower light crops such as herbs and seedlings. Depending on what crop you are growing and what stage it is in, you want to achieve a certain intensity. We have made detailed PPFD maps (light intensity maps) that show what intensity both of our lamp models provide at certain heights. The maps also show how big area each intensity will cover at each height. Uploaded picture of intensity maps: i.imgur.com/23TgEFu.jpg The recommendations on the right-hand side of each map are quite high and are meant to include cannabis which has very high light requirements. It is dependent on what you are growing and what stage your plant is currently in. Personally, I use 150 PPFD for vegetable seeds and younglings until they are at least 2"/5cm tall. I aim for 200-300 when they have passed 2"/5cm in height and only for young adults and adult fruiting plants do I aim for 300-500 PPFD. Everything over 500 is very high intensity and mostly used for cannabis, although it can also be used for fruiting vegetables in their adult state. I hope this was helpful. Let me know if anything was unclear or if you have any other questions.

Super complete answer. Much appreciated

Pay attention to the wattage, ppf and ppe of the lamp.

@@hishinegrouplimited8020 i bit the bullet and bought 960 watt LED’s off Alibaba. Yes, that’s right, a Chinese company. Was ready for a disaster, but super f’in stoked on quality and price. I just couldn’t afford them here where they were easily in the region of a $1,000 and more. So I had to take a chance- and happy I did.

@@caelomarroquin111 Somehow many people are very afraid to buy products made in China, but they are actually very good.

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@Game Changer some do. Have for over a year now. Tho I still manliness and lst all my girls. Check out Migrow on here. Shane shows a top 25 and he addresses that as well..

@Game Changer period huh? Lol...👌 Anyways, have you watched greengene's garden? He's had zero problems with that issue and the product sells well. Soooo, there's that fun fact. Regardless, stay safe and lifted out there, period! 😉

@Game Changer wait do you mean like those basic single bar lights? Or systems like the photo boost or better?

Thank you Tish!

Appreciate your viewership my friend

Full spectrum is hard to answer, you'd have to look at their spectral output chart and make your decision from there. You can certainly start seeds under fluorescents though!

Hey I'm also in Canada and am planning to do the same, can you please let me know what lights you ended up using? Thanks! 😊

I am not going to claim to be an expert. However I did grow actual “food“ hydroponically for years. Fluorescent light is blue. Which is fine for creating vegetation. But really no plant will begin to flower or bear fruit unless it is exposed to light that is in the yellow/red spectrum. So the answer is probably no. I can’t imagine that you could effectively get your “food“ to flower with fluorescent light. LED lighting generally has a much fuller spectrum of light. So depending on what you did, you would not necessarily have to switch it back-and-forth. I used to switch my crops back-and-forth between fluorescent and HPS.

Just a white LED bulb? I dont know, it should be at least 3000 lux bright, but I dont know if those lights have quality spectrums too. It is not just the intensity but also de quality (whole electromagnetic spectrum) Eidt: I mean, not really whole, but the visible light to us, 400 nm to 700

according to other websites/videos i’ve seen, you’re fine with just white light LED if the plants you’re using the light on will eventually be transplanted outside. the white light is best for germination and seedlings and will be sufficient enough for the early stages and then you’ll need to the other spectrums for fruit growth etc which will be supplied once the plant is transplanted outside. if you’re planing on having an indoor garden from start of seed to finish then i think you may need the other spectrums. i also believe that white LED lights release a certain amount of light from the other spectrums anyways so it ends up working out. mind you this white/day light LED’s will need to have i believe 2-4k lumens and 5000K+ depending on what you’re growing. i’m still learning tho so i may be incorrect.

as my view, to choose 8 lights (1.2*1.2m) for 4 * 3

I see what you did there :)

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@@epicgardening Great video! Thank you💚

Mon Soymon ::: Maybe start with an inexpensive full spectrum fluorescent fixture first?

I would go with a T5 fluorescent for an orchid

Thank you so much for your replies. I'll look into that.

Mon Soyman its Mylar, not foil and you dont need that he just has a tent.

STILL lots of good knowledge but yeah you''re right

Honestly this is 95% good clean overview theory. Guy is putting in a great amount of effort into educating us for basically free... I am happy he can get a touch of product placement benefit for himself in for his time. Reciprocity and time value are important incentives for creators and educators.

Tyvion Shaw 🤣🤣🤣 I know right I’ve got some real good fat tomatoes 🍅 growing in my closet.... 🤪

My Daily Vitamins TH&C 😂

@@WOR159 Ha! Well, you can make some killer baking from shake, so in a sense, you're still growing "food"!

The Ripe Tomato Farms true but RU-vid con artists don’t care. I hope cannabis becomes federally legal so YT can lick my butthole...

smokeable food

Appreciate the comment! And yes, super fascinating (albeit nerdy) :)

G Vas, We'd like to elaborate a bit regarding your comment as you make a good point. Plants have been growing under natural sunlight since pretty much the beginning of time and they have become accustomed to the spectrum of the sunlight. Researchers have, however, determined that plants during their different stages also react well to other spectrums than the sun emits. Plants during their early growing stages respond well to a light that is a bit heavier on blue colors whereas plants towards the end of their cycle, or when they bear fruit, prefer a light a bit heavier on red. White light is measured in the Kelvin spectrum. The Kelvin spectrum essentially tells us the "shade" of white light. 3500K is generally considered the ideal Kelvin for a full cycle. However, plants in their early stages or plants with short life cycles (like microgreens) prefer a blueish white light, around 5000-6000K. When a plant starts flowering, it prefers more red white light, i.e. a lower Kelvin. Around 2000-3000K. Hope this helps!

Scientific analysis can allow us to better understand some things.

I've got 2 ES180s right now, actually :)

@@epicgardening are you happy with the spectrum off the es180?

or MIGRO

@@epicgardening That's awesome! I'm rocking 2x es300 and the results are just phenomenal

@@bennyb6071 the Spectrum in the ES make a huge difference. My veg time is cut down and the buds are massive. I would say the most impressive thing about these lights are the light penetration.

You're fast!

@@epicgardening I facilitated the thumb erection icon

You can't directly define certain lights as the best, because you can't be sure that this light fits all plants.

Oof, good luck hey. But succelents bounce back really well. I have an aloe I'm trying to root from a broken aloe (its mother plant) hope your situation goes well. How's it doing?

@@potatopotatoeOG Well, I changed the soil to a cactus mix, I definitely overeaters however and I am currently trying to dry it out with a heat pad wrapped around the pot. I have also added a couple grow light, one led, one incandescent in the hopes of giving it a fighting chance. Some of the leaves are showing the saturation, but I have spotted a few new shoots, so hopefully I can get it dried out enough that those don't saturate. It's been nice to try and actively help it. I just have to let it do it's thing now. Thanks for the encouragement. I won't be watering it for a while now.

Highly recommend coming back when sober 😂

Literally every single application of LEDs in any market they appear in will be vastly incorrect. Basically divide the number in half and it's mostly accurate. Hell, any consumer grade product will not be accurate by orders of magnitude. Air compressors. Listed torque. CFM for blowers. If you want accurate numbers, buy professional grade. It will be 2 or 3 times the cost of consumer grade, but it will actually perform at listed numbers.