3 Worst Japanese Study Mistakes - why you still can't speak 

Pues la verdad como que caí en los tres puntos y a eso le incluyo el echo de que me desmotivo muy rapido por lo cual dejo de hacer las cosas, no se si alguno le pase algo similar o si entienden XD

This is the 2nd time I've seen this advice and tbh, I just can't wrap my head around it. Be it while reading or listening, Japanese or Spanish, I feel like I just automatically see/hear the English for the content I recognize. I honestly can't imagine not doing that as I read, but if it's going to impede my road to fluency, I'm not sure what to do.

@@thedoctordb5765 It only gets easier with trying. Next time when in the shower start talking to yourself in spanish, anything that's on your mind. Could be something like 'i wanna go to x place, i feel sad, lets put on some shampoo', whatever really. And DO NOT use english for anything. Don't say uhm, say eeeh for spanish, or etooo for japanese. You gotta try to separate yourself from english

@@thedoctordb5765 Translating is something you need, to learn a new language and then you have to slowly get rid off those "training wheels". Feel hungry? Think to yourself お腹すいた. Think りんごを食べたい, when you want to eat an apple. It's a pretty good way to stay engaged: can't remember a word, look it up, etc. It will get easier over time and then someday the new language will become second nature.

@@Crackalacking_Z Would you say it's necessary to think of translating as training wheels, and that it'll be a hinderance to fluency eventually no matter what? Or as long as I can instantaneously translate it in my head and don't lose any time, is it feasible to still think about everything in English? OR... is my asking this question the biggest indicator that I'm just holding onto English as a crutch and need to ditch it lol I just honestly can't picture that end result, and maybe that's why I don't advance. Idk. I have done that exercise with smaller words and phrases before, actually (like saying おやすみ　to my sister or 寝る時間 when I'm tired), but never really thought of it as a study method or something that I should do more often. But I still hear "good night" when saying the former. I will definitely try to do it more often with whatever vocab I already know, though. Appreciate the advice and new perspective. Thanks!

@@thedoctordb5765 As someone who's fluent in two languages (and a dialect) and not-so-fluent in three others, let me tell you that being able to think in your target language is definitely one of the most important steps in becoming fluent. You cannot instantaneously translate everything in your head without losing any time. There are plenty words, phrases and proverbs you won't be able to translate at all (よろしくお願いします for example, as it expresses a sentiment that simply doesn't come up in western culture - there are English phrases that come close, but there'll always be a significant difference in the nuance). And that's without even considering grammatical structures that exist in one language but not in the other, making them impossible to translate regardless of the words being used. Additionally, even if you were able to translate everything, there would always be a delay. It will never be as instantaneous as it would be if you were to think directly in the target language. So yes, if your aim is to learn Japanese, try to think in Japanese. As Crackalacking_Z said, start practicing this with single words and short phrases, for common everyday thoughts. That's a good way to start. Try to get to a point where you can process these simple thoughts in Japanese, without translating them to English. I can understand that it's hard to wrap your head around this if you've only ever learned a single language, but I would say that it's definitely a necessary step to become fluent. Think of it like this. Eventually, if you practice this enough, you'll notice that sometimes you start thinking in Japanese without making a conscious effort to do so. You might even have some thoughts in Japanese where you realize that you know what the Japanese thought means, but you don't immediately know how to translate it into English, at least in a way that sounds natural. You might hear English phrases and immediately translate them into Japanese in your head, instead of the other way around. All of those are signs that your fluency is Japanese has significantly improved.

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Welp, this is what a genius looks like guys! For normal people who don't grow up in multi-lingo environment, you can most likely become fluent at - at most - 3 languages, because language attrition is a thing. Overlapping of language will mess with your head, especially when you're an adult.

Да, я думаю ты прав.

@@capslock956 it really depends on what alternate languages you choose, if you were to go from learning JP to Chinese you'd probably be perfectly fine and maybe even Korean, if your native is English then Spanish isn't all to hard to learn and from their it just kinda connects in a web, you learn one and other languages become easier to grasp with intersecting concepts like kanji

@@dragonmaster3030 Wait, but if language overlap is going to be a problem, wouldn't you be better off learning languages which are very different from one another?

Early output is a sin

@@coral3831 it makes sense tbh but at the same time it’s hard to put in the output if you don’t know what they’re saying though listening

I disagree tbh, it's hard to have any meaningul output if you don't know enough words. Although yeah, output *is* important eventually, but not when you're a very beginner. Remember kids spend years listening before even saying mama and papa.

@@floppyearfriend that’s a great point also. I know I’m contradicting myself since I’ve done nothing but input and now that I think about it now, there’s really no reason to do output in a language you’re learning at the beginning

漢字の書き方を学ぶことはぜんぜんいらない。それは時間の無駄だ。さいきん日本に住んでる人さえほとんど手でなにも書かない。それでも一つメリットがある。よく紛らわしい漢字を頻繁に書けばすぐ見分けるようになるはず。

We sometimes don’t realize how much we progressed but you’re moving forward step by step. I’m happy that this video made you realize that you’re すごい😆

im gonna attend jlpt n4 1 month later and im still not 上手. i fail at probe exams thats frustrating me. I studied 1 year regularly

We are in the same situation. I have been studying for a year regularly. It made me very happy to be able to understand 90% of the video.

@@Onur818 Currently living in Japan for three years, still nowhere near fluent but I can survive and communicate. you ARE improving, you just don't know it. JLPT and other language proficiency tests are usually very poor ways to judge someone's COMMUNICATIVE ability in a language. There is a reason why Japanese people are among the lowest English competent individuals even though they receive nearly 6 years of English class in school. Also, I know a few people with N1, and most of them are pretty much fluent in Japanese, however they were fluent first and then decided to try JLPT. The one acquaintance who approached it by studying rather than communicating in Japanese isn't that much more fluent than I am. So don't expect a paper from JLPT will make you good at communicating. Best of luck. Remember, YOU ARE IMPROVING!

@@alecbarnett2759 thanks a lot for motivation.shikkari

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lol yeah tbh google translate is awful at almost any east-asian language, ONLY just it as a very rough reference

Omg I remember that tweet so clearly, and was the person in the replies quickly trying to clear it up so people wouldn't trust the google tl lol

When was that? that's hilarious 😂

ill definitely try that to be able to read faster

In my case learning hiragana and katakana wasn't hard but understanding kanjis pronunciation changes in different context was for me but I started using songs and breaking them down and it helped tremendously, not only with just the kanji but also on understanding root word formations and also verb conjugations big time!

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I couldn’t read the kanji but I could read the Hiragana. Even though I only knew ひときさん

@@kiyk7273 It reads 「ひときさんのうたぜひききたい」and means “I’d love to hear Hitoki’s songs” :)

@@kiyk7273 sameee!!

what are some of your favorite methods for learning?

i think japanese could be more adaptive to the international world. first of all many of them refuse to use english. when foreigners learn japanese for communicating with them. in fact they are capable to read latin characters. at least. please give it a try. not plainly escaping.

@@mishm299 i just watch a lot of stuff in Japanese and read a lot of manga, and sometimes books. If I don't know a word I look it up and put it into Anki. I've never used a textbook unless you count flipping through Tae Kim's guide a few times. I also don't do much grammar or Kanji study because Kanji I learn through words, and grammar I learn through context, but if the specific grammar point is like N1 level or something I watch a youtube video explaining it (also in Japanese, because its way easier to learn Japanese IN Japanese)

@@ntrg3248 Ahh thanks for the reply :) I started learning a month ago because I like a lot of japanese film directors, I've been watching a lot of movies in japanese over the years and finally decided it'd be cool to actually understand the language. I've been able to recognize some words and basic phrases now, but still a long way to go.. I just got my first manga so I plan to slowly go thru it and look up everything I don't know (99% of it..), should learn a lot of kanji that way i think. I'll try figuring out Anki

i hate katakana DIE KATAKANA

僕も！ (me too). My katakana still needs a bit of work but hiragana is fairly easy. where I still struggle is that when presented with more than just a couple words it very quickly overloads me and is hard to follow. I'm sure it's all just practice and exposure but it makes picking up reading materials quite intimidating

@@cryptic5142 yo same. months of learning... and for some reason i still can't get used to katakana. and even when i can translate, i would have hard time making up the word

@@lordofonionrings4187 What's helped me a lot with katakana is playing league of legends in Japanese and trying to parse all the champion names as they come up in the chat (ニーコ　ジャックス　パンティオン) It's gotten me a lot further than where i was, but it's still much slower than my hiragana and there are certain kana that very often force me to stop and think (チ、テ）（ラ、ワ、ウ）and so on

@@cryptic5142 My katakana still needs a bit of work too. I always get confused by katakana that look alike 😅 Oh! Coincidentally, the first kanji I learned to say "I" is 僕

Could you kindly tell me when did you start studying japanese and how did you study? Am impressed u understood everything and I want to each that level as well...how do I study Japanese? I study on my own for now and know basic Japanese...if you could tell me how did you achieve this kind of understanding and how long it took for you to reach it, it would be really very helpful . Thank you

Katakana isn't that common most of the time though. So far I know Hiragana and some Kanjis but I know almost no Katakana because of how little it appears in the content I consume and as such I have hardly memorized any of them.

@@Greideren How long have you been studying Japanese? How long you’ve been studying the language, in my experience, has a huge correlation with encountering katakana. Most Japanese dictionaries use katakana to say the on’yomi (i.e. 生 - セイ). I assume that you would’ve memorised all the katakana if you’ve done quite a bit of kanji study (which isn’t always needed but most learners do it) Also, lots of immersion will definitely put katakana in the forefront if you’re looking into memorising katakana since it still is a major part of Japanese. These include: -Japanese mobile games -Manga -Japanese children’s songs -General texts Sorry for the long comment! I just have quite a few thoughts on how beginners interact with katakana.

@@Greideren Katakana are extremely important. If you say otherwise you're oblivous. They are used for emphasis and they are used instead of Kanji words in many instances.

@@m.m.2341 Never said Katakana wast important though. All I said is that they aren't as common as Hiragana and Kanji (which is true) and that I was having a bit of a hard time learning them because of it.

@@Greideren Then I really don't know what kind of "content" you're consuming? Maybe you don't do gaming? Because gaming is FULL of Katakana.